That's a good modification , mounting a modified AAA L70 Bofors gun system on a vehicle . Manpads is an added benefit .

NAMICA

It is based on BMP 2 and configured for firing NAG ATGMs. It carries 6 ATGMs in a ready to fire launcher . And 4 reloads are carried inside the BMP 2.

It also has a RCWS mounted with a medium machine gun.

It has 2 independent stabilized EO system, one each for the gunner and the commander.

The commander’s panoramic sight (CPS) is used by the commander for target surveillance and exploitation of hunter killer capability. The commanders CPS is mounted on a elevating mechanism for better coverage.

The gunner sight is used for target acquisition and missile firing.

kikuyu1:
Finally,the first cleansheet twin turbo attack plane since the OV 10 came out in the late 60s.

The TAV,Tactical Air Vehicle is the product of Icarus Aerospace,an outfit established only in 2016 in Quebec.


https://www.icarus-aerospace.com/tactical-air-vehicle-tav/



Ofc,this is all on paper. If it were me I'd have a pair of double barrelled 23mm on each wing capable of -5 degree depression and a centreline turret mounted double barrelled 30mm,180 degree capable slaved to a gymbal mounted electro optical sight. All in all a nice package,though I see nothing on price which should be 10-12 mn$. I can't think why this didn't come out sooner!

Edit: I'd have gone for a side by side cockpit. Easier cross communication under the stress of live fire.
Btw,nemesis8u, are your HAL guys too tied up do their own indig version? In a WORLD of COIN and LICs this is just what the doctor ordered!
Fyi max speed is almost 700 kph! Hard to hit in a low level pass with a BMG.

Compare with OV 10 with a centreline turret upon which I'd stick a 30mm recoil mitigation measures permitting . Is it just me or.....

Btw,komekn,what say you of the TAV? How does it compare with the Tuc and Wing Long?

South Korean concept for future mbt

Upgraded schilka with AESA radar and EO

Plus other changes like addition of air conditioning , new powerful engines etc

L&T twin torpedo tubes on board kolkata class destroyers

Uran AShM being launched from INS pralay missile boat . Total 16 missiles carried .

Rustom 2 datalinks for LOS & SATCOM

Recently it was tested under SATCOM control

T72 CIA in the Himalayas

lt requires special modifications to operate in the high altitude zones

nemesis8u:
2 of the LCH prototypes was pressed to operational duties in the northern areas post recent conflict by IAF and ironically they have been delaying the induction of the same since last few years.

For Mountain War Against China, Is India’s LCH Helicopter Superior To America’s AH-64E Apache?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2020/08/17/for-mountain-war-against-china-is-indias-lch-helicopter-superior-to-americas-ah-64e-apache/amp/

TayserMahri:


For Mountain War Against China, Is India’s LCH Helicopter Superior To America’s AH-64E Apache?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2020/08/17/for-mountain-war-against-china-is-indias-lch-helicopter-superior-to-americas-ah-64e-apache/amp/

Apache is a heavy weight category attack helicopter. LCH is a little weight category attack helicopter. So both of them cannot be compared.

Apache is optimised for operations at sea levels. LCH is optimised for operations at high altitudes.

LCH is a stealth helicopter while Apache is not . Stealth is a advantage in high altitudes when flying over mountains which has enemy SAM sites placed on it .

The rigid hingless main rotor of LCH together with the bearing less tail rotor allows for extreme snap maneuvers even in the rarified atmosphere found in the high altitudes. Apache doesn't have the same. Ironically the American Raider X stealth helicopter currently under development incorporates rigid main rotor.

LCH can carry 8 ATGMs not 4 as incorrectly written in the article . And it has already been certified to carry Mistral-2 AAMs.

Israeli 'AirMule' can carry about 1,000 pounds of cargo, which allows it to not only drop supplies, but also grab the wounded soldiers from war zones.

The prototype has taken two years to complete, will be able to reach places traditional helicopters can't.

Russian EW system possibly HPM

Info on Astra Mk1

LCA MK2 cockpit mockup .

Tender released for manufacture

nemesis8u:


I like the concept and with 8000lbs of payload capacity it is no slouch either .

IMO one autocannon is more than enough .With precision targetting high fire volume is not needed.

HAL is mainly tasked to follow local user requirements.

Anyways first time I am seeing that OV 10 with centerline gimballed gun pod , wonder if it ever entered production.

It may seem but it depends on the situation. For BH/ISIL/Al Shabaab type gun truck/technical convoys a 30 millie is overkill. It can be left out retaining the double 23 mm as it outranges equivalent ground based AA due to gravity allowing for the flyguy to attain some distance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2f2e8eYGTE

Also they're cheap!

Other Names: 23mm Type 85

Size: 23x152mm

Weight: 79 kg per case of 100

Price: (APDS-T) $469 per case

(API) $418 per case

(HE) $341 per case

(HVAPI) $704 per case

(HVHE) $457 per case

http://www.pmulcahy.com/ammunition/autocannon_ammunition.html

I couldn't ascertain the age of the site so lets add 50% or 7.50$ per shell. 400 rounds mixed HE and API should do nicely for such a target at an ordnance cost of roughly 3000 $,wayyy cheaper than the ATGMs some strenuously advoacte for!

As we'll possibly face national armies and their traditional mech forces the TAV should be fitted for the 30 mm to be used as required.

Edit: the TAV would ofc operate in pairs optimising combined firepower. Imagine a stream of 23 millies hitting the rear of this convoy while a similar shower of pain simultaneously strikes the front walking toward the middle!
OUCHHHH!?

nemesis8u:


Apache is a heavy weight category attack helicopter. LCH is a little weight category attack helicopter. So both of them cannot be compared.

Apache is optimised for operations at sea levels. LCH is optimised for operations at high altitudes.

LCH is a stealth helicopter while Apache is not . Stealth is a advantage in high altitudes when flying over mountains which has enemy SAM sites placed on it .

The rigid hingless main rotor of LCH together with the bearing less tail rotor allows for extreme snap maneuvers even in the rarified atmosphere found in the high altitudes. Apache doesn't have the same. Ironically the American Raider X stealth helicopter currently under development incorporates rigid main rotor.

LCH can carry 8 ATGMs not 4 as incorrectly written in the article . And it has already been certified to carry Mistral-2 AAMs.

Better be ready this time because the last time in 59' it was a thorough ass whooping from the Chinese despite having little more than the ancient art of nunchaku! This time round they way better armed and have the clear edge except in a nuclear face off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xthe53TvFg4

TayserMahri:


Better be ready this time because the last time in 59' it was a thorough ass whooping from the Chinese despite having little more than the ancient art of nunchaku. This time round they way better armed and have the clear edge except in a nuclear face off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xthe53TvFg4

Ohh thank god, you told us. We were expecting you for last 70 years, where were you?

Kids, look a messiah came to warn us. Now, when you planning to get crucifixion? Otherwise we dont believe you.

kaku30:


Ohh thank god, you told us. We were expecting you for last 70 years, where were you?

Kids, look a messiah came to warn us. Now, when you planning to get crucifixion? Otherwise we dont believe you.

None asked you to, son

kikuyu1:
Finally,the first cleansheet twin turbo attack plane since the OV 10 came out in the late 60s.

The TAV,Tactical Air Vehicle is the product of Icarus Aerospace,an outfit established only in 2016 in Quebec.


https://www.icarus-aerospace.com/tactical-air-vehicle-tav/



Ofc,this is all on paper. If it were me I'd have a pair of double barrelled 23mm on each wing capable of -5 degree depression and a centreline turret mounted double barrelled 30mm,180 degree capable slaved to a gymbal mounted electro optical sight. All in all a nice package,though I see nothing on price which should be 10-12 mn$. I can't think why this didn't come out sooner!

Edit: I'd have gone for a side by side cockpit. Easier cross communication under the stress of live fire.
Btw,nemesis8u, are your HAL guys too tied up do their own indig version? In a WORLD of COIN and LICs this is just what the doctor ordered!
Fyi max speed is almost 700 kph! Hard to hit in a low level pass with a BMG.

Compare with OV 10 with a centreline turret upon which I'd stick a 30mm recoil mitigation measures permitting . Is it just me or.....

Pains me that Paramount wasted 2 years in court shenanigans and now this Icarus will eat Mwari's lunch!

Lurker4Long:


Pains me that Paramount wasted 2 years in court shenanigans and now this Icarus will eat Mwari's lunch!

Its still useful imo, but the Mwari is more of an anti poaching/ border security platform than true tactical AC with its limited payload.

kikuyu1:


Its still useful imo, but the Mwari is more of an anti poaching/ border security platform than true tactical AC with its limited payload.

Six hard points (1 200kg) on the Mwari vs five (1 500kg) on the Tucano, for example.
Am not indulging in the folly of straight comparisons; just illustrating my befuddlement at limited payload.

TayserMahri:


None asked you to, son

No one ask you, we sinners give you crucifixion.

TayserMahri:


Chinese despite having little more than the ancient art of nunchaku!

You need to read books more often

Chinese were armed and equipped 10 times better than their opponents .

When the fuking British left they destroyed most of the war equipment and on top of that fuking nehru the then pm wanted to disband the army .

Again the fuking nehru refused to allow use of air force which would have give an upper hand . The Chinese didn't have any air assets in the region .

And importantly the Chinese attacked by guile and treachery , they first signed agreement of peace and then suddenly attacked.

And so the odds were stacked against the IA from the beginning .

As for who is what that will be best decided in a war and best leave it at that .

Lurker4Long:


Pains me that Paramount wasted 2 years in court shenanigans and now this Icarus will eat Mwari's lunch!

Mwari is flying the other one is not

So breakfast launch dinner is still within reach of mwari provided the game is upped.

kikuyu1:


Its still useful imo, but the Mwari is more of an anti poaching/ border security platform than true tactical AC with its limited payload.

IMO it is suited for CI warfare , it can take off and land on dirt strips . Low on maintenance , low logistic footprint .

As I said previously , accuracy always triumphs volume of fire.

As long as payload is adequate and the payload hits the mark everytime , it's a job done well.

What's the point of carting around oversized payload , when in real life , only few get fired per sortie ( except for some occasions ) . Weapons are not cheap especially guided air to ground munitions. Everytime we load smart munitions on an aircraft it's service life decreases and maintenance costs increases. So outside of US and some western countries , most load smart weapons on an aircraft only if they are more or less certain it will be fired .


If mwari can get a gimballed 20 mm gun on it , it will be icing on the cake.

nemesis8u:


You need to read books more often

No, you need to. Starting with the art of war.

And importantly the Chinese attacked by guile and treachery , they first signed agreement of peace and then suddenly attacked.

“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make them believe we are near.”

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

kaku30:


No one ask you, we sinners give you crucifixion.

I ain't Yeezus or SahishNuh!

TayserMahri:


“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make them believe we are near.”

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

A book is as good as the man who reads it

Quoting phrases does not cut it , when one fails to realise the context of the phrases in the first place

In the phase u quoted Sun Tzu is talking about the use of deception as part of military operations . That is maskirovka.

What I referred to in my previous post is treachery and guile in diplomacy and on mutually signed agreements between 2 nations.

2 entirely different things

nemesis8u:


A book is as good as the man who reads it

Quoting phrases does not cut it , when one fails to realise the context of the phrases in the first place

In the phase u quoted Sun Tzu is talking about the use of deception as part of military operations . That is maskirovka.

What I referred to in my previous post is treachery and guile in diplomacy and on mutually signed agreements between 2 nations.

2 entirely different things

You wouldn't know, seeing that a whole prime minister never knew, obviously for an internet yoddha its orders of magnitude harder. The two go hand in hand. The job of an able leader is to read deception and keep ahead of it. Hitler signed similar pacts with Josef Stalin but Stalin was never fooled. Only a fool trusts àn adversary to Nehru's level. If only he had read the quote that irked you, but then again he was Ne..hru.

TayserMahri:


.The job of an able leader is to read deception and keep ahead of it. Hitler signed similar pacts with Josef Stalin but Stalin was never fooled. Only a fool trusts àn adversary to Nehru's level.

Why do u think I used the word " fuking " every time I mentioned nehru .

Nehru is a fuking dick head SOB who should never have been a pm . He was incompetent and a parasite nothing else.

Stalin and hitler signed the Molotov Ribbentrop pact in 1939 which was a non aggression treaty.

Hitler broke the agreement when he treacherously attacked USSR in 1941 in operation barbarossa .

Stalin did not have a fucking clue because USSR was caught completely unaware and unprepared.

Why the fuk do you think USSR lost millions of its troops and citizens within a year of attack if stalin was not fooled.

Seriously bro u need to read books