felixomor:


Who is the one attacking God? that he needs a "defender"?

You?

referring to Christianity. mstk

weblord1900:

referring to Christianity. mstk

So rephrase your question....

Seun:
Pastor Adeboye's recent fatwa on "whoever introduces tribalism to RCCG", which is confusing because their list of leaders shows that tribalism has already been introduced to the church, reminded me of my concerns about the morality of the Ananias and Sapphira tale.

According to Acts 4:32 - Acts 5:11, "there were no needy persons among [the Christians]. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need." This was obviously not a sustainable way to do things because eventually, all the rich people in the church would have been reduced to poverty.

Anyway, "a man named Ananias, with the consent of his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property; with his wife’s knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles’ feet" Now there's a lot to like about this couple. First, that they were willing to lose their property to help the needy in the church. Secondly, that they consulted with each other at every step of the way, and acted as one.

But this couple retained a sense of financial responsibility, so they decided to be keep some of the proceeds of the sale for themselves, to take care of their kids *, etc. However, God (or someone who knew what happened), told Peter what they had done, and Peter shamed them before the church by revealing their secret. So they cried, repented, were forgiven, and brought the rest of the money to the apostles that evening.

Haha. Just kidding. Peter, the guy who denied Jesus three times and was forgiven, had them killed by the power of the Holy Spirit of God, who is love. First he killed Ananias, and somehow nobody told his wife about his death. Then he killed Sapphira for backing up her husband.

Imagine the sorrow of the parents who brought up Ananias and Sapphira and instilled in them the values that made them successful enough to own property and pious enough to embrace Christianity. Imagine the inconsolable wailing of their kids * who would now have to rely on the charity of the same church that killed both of their parents, in order to survive. Consider the eternal burning in hell that awaited the couple.

How can anyone read this story and not be horrified by it? How can you open your mouth and say "God is love" after reading this chilling tale?

* It's reasonable to assume that they had kids unless they were just married or infertile, since there were no contraceptives in those days.

you just summarized this story in a way that it will seem as if they had only done wrong by keeping some money to take care of their kids and their problems. That wasn't the case actually.
Would they be praised for doing evil together just because couples are meant to be one? The thing was that both lied that they brought out the whole money. The wife knew the truth but covered it.
By the way, they weren't forced to sell their property, or bring the whole money they sold it to the congregation either. So why would they deceive the congregation in the quest for self appraisal?
Had it been they said the truth on how much they sold it and how much they brought, nothing should have happened to them.
So we have to learn something from this:
1)Lying for the holy spirit is Bad,
2)Wives should not in the. course of being one with their husband, support what they did wrong(Akan story comes to mind)

Wow! Never knew the owner of nairaland was this childish! Pls ban me Seun! You are entitled to your opinion, but for you to open a thread for the sole purpose of condemning people's faith- you need to apologise to people who trusted you and looked up to you! Smh

flyingdutchman:
Wow! Never knew the owner of nairaland was this childish! Pls ban me Seun! You are entitled to your opinion, but for you to open a thread for the sole purpose of condemning people's faith- you need to apologise to people who trusted you and looked up to you! Smh

Exactly,
it only confirms what we long knew,
that what they have been calling "Atheism" is actually "antichrist"
Nothing else.....
SMH

This is the best post of the day so far

Who executed them ?

Your post on The bible characters is ignorant and your title is extremely misleading.

I dnt have problems if u are an Atheist but dnt force people to your believe by mis-representing facts. That is not pure.

That is one sole reason I respect YModulus.

SirWere:


....Explain how a pastor, a MAN OF GOD will not have the holy spirit

So you tell me you haven't heard of so called doctors or lawyers who have been practicing with fake certificates for years and an average patient or client goes to them without suspecting some of them even go on to make good cash until they are arrested
It's the same thing with the Holy Spirit, you can fake it, pretend and deceive people who are blind spiritually to think you have it. Isn't the average church about miracles and signs, Satan knows this and is using that strategy to deceive gullible Christians like you were


It takes a man with the spirit to Identity another with it. It takes someone who speaks and understand a language to be able to communicate very well with another in the same language

A song says on CHRIST the solid rock I stand ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND

if your opinion of who Jesus is is built totally on men of God or the lifestyle of an average average pastor then you are on sinking sand because every other thing shall fail you except your own relationship with the spirit
There was a man named Noah who lived at a time of corruption and evil.... You know the story... How many people survived...
God is no respecter of persons he will save those who are loyal to the very end and destruction is for them that do evil and pretend that

KazukiIto:


In OOP objects have properties and behaviour. The rules are already hardcoded into the system. For every positive, there is an equal negative. For every day, there is also night. For every love, there is also hate. The Creator is a being of symmetry. That's how I choose to see it, and I'm at peace that way...

I was talking about your moniker.

felixomor:

Exactly, it only confirms what we long knew, that what they have been calling "Atheism" is actually "antichrist" Nothing else..... SMH

Yimu. There were atheists before christ.

TomHagen:
Yimu. There were atheists before christ.

Are u one of such?

Seun:
Pastor Adeboye's recent fatwa on "whoever introduces tribalism to RCCG", which is confusing because their list of leaders shows that tribalism has already been introduced to the church, reminded me of my concerns about the morality of the Ananias and Sapphira tale.

According to Acts 4:32 - Acts 5:11, "there were no needy persons among [the Christians]. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need." This was obviously not a sustainable way to do things because eventually, all the rich people in the church would have been reduced to poverty.

Anyway, "a man named Ananias, with the consent of his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property; with his wife’s knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles’ feet" Now there's a lot to like about this couple. First, that they were willing to lose their property to help the needy in the church. Secondly, that they consulted with each other at every step of the way, and acted as one.

But this couple retained a sense of financial responsibility, so they decided to be keep some of the proceeds of the sale for themselves, to take care of their kids *, etc. However, God (or someone who knew what happened), told Peter what they had done, and Peter shamed them before the church by revealing their secret. So they cried, repented, were forgiven, and brought the rest of the money to the apostles that evening.

Haha. Just kidding. Peter, the guy who denied Jesus three times and was forgiven, had them killed by the power of the Holy Spirit of God, who is love. First he killed Ananias, and somehow nobody told his wife about his death. Then he killed Sapphira for backing up her husband.

Imagine the sorrow of the parents who brought up Ananias and Sapphira and instilled in them the values that made them successful enough to own property and pious enough to embrace Christianity. Imagine the inconsolable wailing of their kids * who would now have to rely on the charity of the same church that killed both of their parents, in order to survive. Consider the eternal burning in hell that awaited the couple.

How can anyone read this story and not be horrified by it? How can you open your mouth and say "God is love" after reading this chilling tale?

* It's reasonable to assume that they had kids unless they were just married or infertile, since there were no contraceptives in those days.

How could i have ever thought that annanias and saphiras were evil .

....... The true power of christian indoctrination

KingEbukaNaija:


How is this Barbaric God took their lives instantly

Acts 5: 5
And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

Is it just me or isn't Seun preaching the gospel ? Thanks for reminding us what awaits the wicked /sinners in Hell . The abhorrent consequence of sin is being in Hell Fire forever .

Lol.

flyingdutchman:
Wow! Never knew the owner of nairaland was this childish! Pls ban me Seun! You are entitled to your opinion, but for you to open a thread for the sole purpose of condemning people's faith- you need to apologise to people who trusted you and looked up to you! Smh

He is only condemning himself! Many have tried what he is doing today and they have all died and become manure but that which they tried so hard to condemn is still very much alive and growing stronger and spreading more and moe to every nation.

Well even Nairaland needs a Fayose sha.

God is omnipotent...... He is impeccable but man is not

It all happened when he sent Satan down to earth because of his hunger for power ...God can't bear to kill an Angel of his own...so he removed his glory from him.....There are laid down rules in heaven,....
God also gave angels the freewill to think on their own....had it been he is a manipulator,he would have created them without no free will..
Take for example...You are a billionaire's child,you were born with a silver spoon ...unfortunately,your dad sent you away from his presence (I.e he disowned you) You have no place to stay,but to just roam about the city... You will have to adapt, but it will be very hard....
If you finally adapt,all that will be in your mind is to have revenge... Which Satan is currently doing.....but because he can't harm God, he has to look for other alternatives...what better alternative than to ruin his work?He found the flaw in God's creation which is the freewill he gave to man,so he utilised it to manipulate his most precious handwork

Had it been God destroyed Lucifer, man would have been perfect...so that is the only mistake he made...The bible say
He is a merciful God and a consuming fire
You can't likened him to any mortal ...

Ananias and Sapphira died because they lied,they were not forced to bring it...Had it been they said they brought only part of it,they would have not died...but instead they lied....
They want to look perfect in the eyes of others but they paid for it.... So in what way is God not perfect? ...

Were they forced to sell their property? They did it willing and they should have been able to say "the land was sold for this amount but we are going to give the congregation part and also take part of it". I'm sure they wouldn't have died if they made that type of statement quoted above

4kings:

**Conspired against the Holyghost**, seriously do u know the fruits of the holyspirit.

what does the fruit of the spirit got to do with this?

Charlesdock:
what does the fruit of the spirit got to do with this?

Love, peace, kindness, comforter, gentleness et al, where those lies?

So what has Mr Seun got for creating this thread? Get more traffic This is the reason we always tell them without the Holy Spirit you can't understand the bible. Mr Seun just opened the bible and saw the death of Anaians and Sapphira then he concluded christianity is fake. What a topic

4kings:

Love, peace, kindness, comforter, gentleness et al, where those lies?

Sir the fruits of the spirit are the substance in making Heaven. They blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by being enemies of righteousness.

Charlesdock:
So what has Mr Seun got for creating this thread? Get more traffic This is the reason we always tell them without the Holy Spirit you can't understand the bible. Mr Seun just opened the bible and saw the death of Anaians and Sapphira then he concluded christianity is fake. What a topic

He didn't make any conclusion.

Charlesdock:
Sir the fruits of the spirit are the substance in making Heaven. They blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by being enemies of righteousness.

Keep telling yourself that.

felixomor:

Are u one of such?

That is irrelevant to the point.

TomHagen:
That is irrelevant to the point.

Yea right, hehehe, lol

@ Seun,
The day you make up your mind to stop being unrighteous, accepting Christ,
You'll be ushered into a perfect harmony with God.

You'll agree with him in all things,
Who has both the power of mercy - to give hope to those who shall seek to reciprocate God's goodness by abstaining from all that grieve Him;

And the power of retribution - to deter the minds that think God can be trivialized,
And his laws spurned;
That there should be conscience of sanity in His creation.

He knows the heart of all,
And he'll handle you the way that best appeals to His nature .

Repent.

Shalom

4kings:

Keep telling yourself that.

that is the truth sir. Sir, you can't understand the bible than the author (HOLY SPIRIT)

Charlesdock:
that is the truth sir. Sir, you can't understand the bible than the author (HOLY SPIRIT)

OK sir.

KingEbukaNaija:


There is nothing logical in the write up . They simply dropped dead for lying . The wages of sin is death . Durrhh !!!

really? If everyone who has told a lie dies, would there be anyone left on earth? So essentially u are saying God kills everyone for lying. How come u are alive cos u can't tell me you haven't lied ur whole life.

Seun:

But this couple retained a sense of financial responsibility, so they decided to be keep some of the proceeds of the sale for themselves, to take care of their kids [b]*, etc.[/b] However, God (or someone who knew what happened), told Peter what they had done, and Peter shamed them before the church by revealing their secret. So they cried, repented, were forgiven, and brought the rest of the money to the apostles that evening.
Okay?

making excuses for liars.

flyingdutchman:
Wow! Never knew the owner of nairaland was this childish! Pls ban me Seun! You are entitled to your opinion, but for you to open a thread for the sole purpose of condemning people's faith- you need to apologise to people who trusted you and looked up to you! Smh

The shameless hypocrisy in Nigeria.
Yes people would challenge ideologies but of what use is a judge when he's guilty of the crime for which he's convicting others?

Seun:
Pastor Adeboye's recent fatwa on "whoever introduces tribalism to RCCG", which is confusing because their list of leaders shows that tribalism has already been introduced to the church, reminded me of my concerns about the morality of the Ananias and Sapphira tale.

According to Acts 4:32 - Acts 5:11, "there were no needy persons among [the Christians]. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need." This was obviously not a sustainable way to do things because eventually, all the rich people in the church would have been reduced to poverty.

Anyway, "a man named Ananias, with the consent of his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property; with his wife’s knowledge, he kept back some of the proceeds, and brought only a part and laid it at the apostles’ feet" Now there's a lot to like about this couple. First, that they were willing to lose their property to help the needy in the church. Secondly, that they consulted with each other at every step of the way, and acted as one.

But this couple retained a sense of financial responsibility, so they decided to be keep some of the proceeds of the sale for themselves, to take care of their kids *, etc. However, God (or someone who knew what happened), told Peter what they had done, and Peter shamed them before the church by revealing their secret. So they cried, repented, were forgiven, and brought the rest of the money to the apostles that evening.

Haha. Just kidding. Peter, the guy who denied Jesus three times and was forgiven, had them killed by the power of the Holy Spirit of God, who is love. First he killed Ananias, and somehow nobody told his wife about his death. Then he killed Sapphira for backing up her husband.

Imagine the sorrow of the parents who brought up Ananias and Sapphira and instilled in them the values that made them successful enough to own property and pious enough to embrace Christianity. Imagine the inconsolable wailing of their kids * who would now have to rely on the charity of the same church that killed both of their parents, in order to survive. Consider the eternal burning in hell that awaited the couple.

How can anyone read this story and not be horrified by it? How can you open your mouth and say "God is love" after reading this chilling tale?

* It's reasonable to assume that they had kids unless they were just married or infertile, since there were no contraceptives in those days.

Trying so hard to discredit christianity is just a waste of your time..."you do err,not knowing the scriptures,nor the power of God-Matthew 22:29
If you read the preceeding chapter you will understand, the couple were not forcefd to sold their possessio, it was a free willing contribution. Moreso, it takes a man of the spirit to follow God and obey Him. I just pray it will not ne too late for you to give your life to God. Atheism will bring eternal damnation.