LOL. Im sorry but the whole thing is a joke.
They're trying to carve out a world class 'resort' but if you look at pictures or read about it, there's nothing special whatsoever that would attract somebody from another country to go there.


there's a very small pool that every town in the US has, some private residents even
there's a very small mall that every town in the US above the population of 7000 has
there's a very small arcade which every gas station had until ppl stopped going to them
there's a very average hotel
then there's a movie studio that I dont think anyone uses but i could be wrong.


If you look at places that attract ppl for liesure

Las Vegas and Dubai for example, the offer eye popping things that are not matched anywhere in the world.
All Paris did was build a huge useless iron tower in the middle of the city and they get the most tourism in the world.
but Nigeria is offer a swimming pool and icecream thinking this will revolutionize the world.

build something that somebody doesn't have, or something noteworthy, im not gonna pay 2000 dollars to go to a cattle ranch in the north and a video game arcade in the south.

then when they name things Tourism Road and so forth it makes it even more frustrating, its not a hard formula to get right.

Why criticize when surely it's a sign of things to come from Tinapa? at least they have something to show for it albeit over-priced and rome was never built in a day mind you.
the las vegas you are going on about started from somewhere before it turned to mecca of all tourism.
Not everyone can afford to take their families to disney land or theme parks and if that's a start of Nigerian's offering in that aspect then i support them will all ma body.

Tinapa is good and can be improved to serve people better. Its not stupid. Do u have something better to offer Cross Rivers if not keep ur aspersions to urself.

Abeg free the man, he has every right to spew his views and opinion just like you 2.


The Tinapa is of zero use to nobody, it's not touching the lives of the average folks in the state. The place is losing milions a day with no end in sight.

I don't have to tell you how many schools, roads, bridges, hospitals, water treatment plants and other infrastructure the money could have been spent on instead of some thoughtless, misguided,  badly planed  and unnecessary egotistical showmanship bondongle and disaster.



What can be improved to serve the people really? Will Tinapa provided disease free portable water for people to drink, will Tinapa provide good schools for the kids? will Tinapa provided good roads instead of death traps? will Tinapa provide good and well equipped hospitals and clinics?

Of course not.


You can't fly rockets to the moon without good launch pads. Invest in your people and infrastructures before dabbling into fancy money pits.

Tinapa would attract foreign investors if Calabar airport was really international. Don't blame Cross Rivers its the FG trying to kill like they try to kill anything in the East.

babapupa:

Abeg free the man, he has every right to spew his views and opinion just like you 2.


The Tinapa is of zero use to nobody, it's not touching the lives of the average folks in the state. The place is losing milions a day with no end in sight.

I don't have to tell you how many schools, roads, bridges, hospitals, water treatment plants and other infrastructure the money could have been spent on instead of some thoughtless, misguided,  badly planed  and unnecessary egotistical showmanship bondongle and disaster.



What can be improved to serve the people really? Will Tinapa provided disease free portable water for people to drink, will Tinapa provide good schools for the kids? will Tinapa provided good roads instead of death traps? will Tinapa provide good and well equipped hospitals and clinics?

Of course not.


You can't fly rockets to the moon without good launch pads. Invest in your people and infrastructures before dabbling into fancy money pits.

WOW. Sorry but I find your argument seriously flawed. What exactly do you know about the project? I wish people just did some research before they castigate and see that the issue is not exactly black and white. The TINAPA project suffered as a result of poor support in terms of legislative bills. First of all the TINAPA project is not just a water park but also contains a large shopping complex, hotel, film studio and other tourist activities. IT is only in phase one of the whole project. There were four phases which would have at there completion added a casino, more hotels and more entertainment venues. Sure one could argue that such a venture should have been the reserve of the private sector, but the funds used to build were not all government funds. It was actually built and the quality of the work was actually good, the structure is there for all to see. At a point wal-mart was considering opening a store there.

At the completion of the first phase shops were opened but not allowed to sell, why? Because the federal government was dragging its feet with legislation that would have allowed TINAPA to be a free trade zone meaning there was no tax on goods. What was the implication of such? Custom officials swarmed TINAPA and shops that had paid rent were not allowed to sell their goods if not they would be closed by officials. So people could look but not buy. Such damaged the reputation of what initially was a promising development. You go on about how TINAPA was not providing portable water for citizens hence it was useless. TINAPA may not have been pouring water and throwing food parcels into the hands of the poor but the project not just during building but more importantly at completion of the first phase created thousands of jobs. I could go on but why not try doing the basic research yourself instead of relying on hear say? They have a website you know? It isn't as black and white as saying TINAPA was bad, etc.

^^
10 gbosas for you.
not everyone thinks outside of da box

skyblue tanx 4 ur reply some peeps just talk on what they dont really know, the young man might have seen tinapa from pages of papers and is concluding the project is stupid. Blame FG for the woes of tinapa, they have not put in place the right legislative framework for the project to kickstart, what do you expect tinapa is sited in a minority state, the FG can afford to foot drag, i guess if it was situated in kano, kd or katsina, they would have kick started it, but do they have the brians and brawns to do remarkable things like this, i guess the young man duke would be regretting where ever he is,thats how talents die in this god forsaken country.

Sky Blue:

WOW. Sorry but I find your argument seriously flawed. What exactly do you know about the project? I wish people just did some research before they castigate and see that the issue is not exactly black and white. The TINAPA project suffered as a result of poor support in terms of legislative bills. First of all the TINAPA project is not just a water park but also contains a large shopping complex, hotel, film studio and other tourist activities. IT is only in phase one of the whole project. There were four phases which would have at there completion added a casino, more hotels and more entertainment venues. Sure one could argue that such a venture should have been the reserve of the private sector, but the funds used to build were not all government funds. It was actually built and the quality of the work was actually good, the structure is there for all to see. At a point wal-mart was considering opening a store there.

At the completion of the first phase shops were opened but not allowed to sell, why? Because the federal government was dragging its feet with legislation that would have allowed TINAPA to be a free trade zone meaning there was no tax on goods. What was the implication of such? Custom officials swarmed TINAPA and shops that had paid rent were not allowed to sell their goods if not they would be closed by officials. So people could look but not buy. Such damaged the reputation of what initially was a promising development. You go on about how TINAPA was not providing portable water for citizens hence it was useless. TINAPA may not have been pouring water and throwing food parcels into the hands of the poor but the project not just during building but more importantly at completion of the first phase created thousands of jobs. I could go on but why not try doing the basic research yourself instead of relying on hear say? They have a website you know? It isn't as black and white as saying TINAPA was bad, etc.

Why didnt they get this assurance BEFORE starting this gigantic elephant?

udezue:

Tinapa would attract foreign investors if Calabar airport was really international. Don't blame Cross Rivers its the FG trying to kill like they try to kill anything in the East.

Imagine isnt calabar a PDP state? IsOgbulafor not from the east was Nnamani not from the East?
do you need the FG to build airport too? Kwara/Zamafara/Gombe is building/built an international' Airport without the FG, wasnt calabar collecting Oil Revenue before?
Building a resort without transportation links

_{Hows their hunger strike by the way?}

New Theme Park Projects coming up

The government of Cross River State, situated in southern Nigeria, has signed a deal with an American firm, Jack Rouse Associates for the construction of a world class theme park, This Day reports.

The American company will act as design and master planning consultants for the development.

The theme park will be situated on a 100 hectare piece of land opposite the Tinapa Business and Leisure Resort and is expected to cost N100 billion (US$680 million).

According to Cross River State governor, Senator Liyel Imoke, the project will be funded through a public private partnership.
Senator Imoke added that in order for the state to become the foremost tourism destination in sub Saharan Africa another N100 billion will have to be invested into the tourism sector.

Dan Schultz of Jack Rouse Associates said that they were in Calabar for discussions with the state government and other partners and promised that they are committed to make the project a success.

Feb 25th 2009

Dis Guy:

Why didnt they get this assurance BEFORE starting this gigantic elephant?
Imagine isnt calabar a PDP state? IsOgbulafor not from the east was Nnamani not from the East?
do you need the FG to build airport too? Kwara/Zamafara/Gombe is building/built an international' Airport without the FG, wasnt calabar collecting Oil Revenue before?
Building a resort without transportation links

_{Hows their hunger strike by the way?}

you are funny oh, assurance in naija where anything goes. All you need is just a change of govenrment plus not honouring assurances is not restricted to naija alone.
their is a popular resort in the UK called alton towers and it sure feels like the place was built in a jungle but once peeps start visiting tinapa i assure you some of the money generated will be used to develop it's surroundings (i might be dreaming but at least they have laid the first/gigantic stone)

disguy

assurance from fG

abi??

how many has been kept self ehhu

persistence pays off; good intention; good stuff; good people

@@@@@

nooo

they rather go to dubia:na maddness de worri dem

ikeyman00:

disguy abi??

how many has been kept self ehhu

persistence pays off; good intention; good stuff; good people

totally agree with you these are all good intentions but as outsiders we can afford to wait and see how it goes in the future, whilst the people of the sate move elsewhere as their demand for good schools, electricity and better healthcare are not being met, and you have to remember calabar has lost its status as an oil producing state, meaning debt profile will be on the high side (forget PPP in naija most of the states are cheated one way or the other by oyinbo and aggressive financiers)

The state govt should embark on projects taht dont require Abuja's input, look at Lagos state and Kwaras substation

disguy

plz commot lagos self there

oh u forget lagos was once the federal capital!!

arent we talkin about nigeria not calabar??

common disguy, this is what the secesionist crew sees, which i think u cant agrue about!! period

wasnt wembley stadium emm back up by the britsih government

tinapa aint only raise money for calabar, i will as well do the same for nigeria

fg is a joke and will always be

like i said they rather go to dubia shikena!!!

I'm talking about Post 2000 Lagos, recent developments under the state govt,
You'll notice they have little PDP legislators in the house of Assembly
They dont embark on projects that require too much FG input,
All PPP are backed by agreements so the private Firms+State govt will be the one suing the FG

Seccessionist crew? thats jsut a silly excuse most of these governors use when they cant get anything done
They have no opposition tin their state, they are the majority in the National Assembly, Yet they can convince
other party legislators to back their plans? they couldnt even put pressure on their SE,SS, SW colleague to make a case for Tinapa? Later on we say some cattle herders are holding us back

What will happen if all the reps from Southerner nigeria refuse to go to 'work' until the issue of tinapa is
discussed once and for all? Why cant they influence ogbulafor to support this project, perhaps he is an undercover mallam

WOW. Sorry but I find your argument seriously flawed. What exactly do you know about the project? I wish people just did some research before they castigate and see that the issue is not exactly black and white. The TINAPA project suffered as a result of poor support in terms of legislative bills. First of all the TINAPA project is not just a water park but also contains a large shopping complex, hotel, film studio and other tourist activities. IT is only in phase one of the whole project. There were four phases which would have at there completion added a casino, more hotels and more entertainment venues. Sure one could argue that such a venture should have been the reserve of the private sector, but the funds used to build were not all government funds. It was actually built and the quality of the work was actually good, the structure is there for all to see. At a point wal-mart was considering opening a store there.

At the completion of the first phase shops were opened but not allowed to sell, why? Because the federal government was dragging its feet with legislation that would have allowed TINAPA to be a free trade zone meaning there was no tax on goods. What was the implication of such? Custom officials swarmed TINAPA and shops that had paid rent were not allowed to sell their goods if not they would be closed by officials. So people could look but not buy. Such damaged the reputation of what initially was a promising development. You go on about how TINAPA was not providing portable water for citizens hence it was useless. TINAPA may not have been pouring water and throwing food parcels into the hands of the poor but the project not just during building but more importantly at completion of the first phase created thousands of jobs. I could go on but why not try doing the basic research yourself instead of relying on hear say? They have a website you know? It isn't as black and white as saying TINAPA was bad, etc.

It doesn't matter how you cut and dice it. Any business venture that's not making money is a bad project, especially a poorly conceived, ill advised and misguided project.

All this ya essay just buttressed my point.


If I spent my company's money on a project like that without the necessary operating permits, den for don fire me long long time ago, but trust Nigerians to point fingers at other people. We have zero sense of discipline and responsibility, we exhibit the same foolish and dangerous mindset that's crippling the country.

Tinapa is just another chapter and example of our messed up national character.


Basic research shows that the planners were not professionals

Basic research shows that the planners didn't dot their lines before committing their money

What kind of fool/idiot commits hundreds of millions of dollars without license and approval to operate?

Now the project is a big ass white elephant losing millions of dollars day

The passengerless monorail alone cost 36 million dollars. What about urban monorail transportation to transport people from point A to  B? That's how you help and touch people's lives, not some of no use to people waste and thoughtless project.

You don't have all the necessary infrastructures needed to back up big projects like Tinapa. You don't have good roads to move people in from other states, air transportation is too expensive and out of reach for almost 90% of Nigerians and you don't have well equipped hospitals to handle emergencies.

Casinos in America and other places are thriving because their customers have good roads to transport them in from hundreds/thousands miles and states away.

The so called potential costumers are not moving in for a variety of reasons starting from high cost of doing business in Nigeria especially when others are relocating outside Nigeria. Running a business on diesel 24/7 is straight mindless and unsustainable.


Yes, we have a messed up and incompetent federal system but must we blame them for other people's stupid mistakes and lousy planning? The federal government didn't force you to spend or waste your money on Tinapa  without securing the necessary paperwork to operate.

People sneeze and blame the feds, people cough and blame the feds, people shit for pants and blame the feds, people steal money inside delta and they point fingers at the feds. when are we going to start blaming ourselves for our own shortcomings? this blame government for everything syndrome is getting out of hand. 

It's like a sin to blame and demand representation from your elected leaders at the federal level, it's their job to lobby the feds and bring home the bacon,  too bad they've mastered the art of bait and switch and succeeded in fooling their people that the federal government is responsible for every damn thin, they don't have to do any damn thing but collect fat paychecks, ride in fancy cars, build homes in all corners of the world and spend the people's money recklessly.

Other people bleeped up, not the feds. Good or bad, there are trade laws that must be enforced on the books and it's the responsibility of the state leaders to lobby the feds for adjustments before committing a dime of the state's resources.


Now they're talking about six flags. isn't six flags bankrupt? their stock is worth less than 20 cents.where will the loan/money come from? I'm sure no bank is gonna loan a bankrupt company hundreds of millions of dollars to invest in a challenging business climate like Nigeria. I'm sure they're counting on the state to front the loan via our clueless banks or misappropriate the treasury as usual. 


It's ok to feel and exude pride when we see fancy things in our neighborhoods, but  at what price when you still can't drink your typhoid water, your kids are still receiving lectures in sub standard and ill equipped sheds/classrooms, when people are losing their lives on deadly roads, when people are dying because of non existing medical facilities?


Same way they Ignored the lessons of Tinapa and came up with another scheme like six flags, they'll continue to ignore the people's needs and well being and keep coming up with wasteful and misguided showmanship projects while the people continue to suffer needlessly.


It's easy for these guys to come up with these mindless projects because the governors are clueless, they and their families are not going through what the average man is going trough. They drink good water, their kids are in the best schools in europe and america, their families have access to private jets to fly them to their choice of 1st class hospitals in europe and america and they don't have to travel on the deadly roads.

Your day to day concern is non of their business.

Why do we glorify waste and misguided projects and complain bitterly about lack of common human basic needs?


You can not have it both ways,

disguy

I'm talking about Post 2000 Lagos, recent developments under the state govt,
You'll notice they have little PDP legislators in the house of Assembly
They dont embark on projects that require too much FG input,
All PPP are backed by agreements so the private Firms+State govt will be the one suing the FG

Seccessionist crew? thats jsut a silly excuse most of these governors use when they cant get anything done
They have no opposition tin their state, they are the majority in the National Assembly, Yet they can convince
other party legislators to back their plans? they couldnt even put pressure on their SE,SS, SW colleague to make a case for Tinapa? Later on we say some cattle herders are holding us back

What will happen if all the reps from Southerner nigeria refuse to go to 'work' until the issue of tinapa is
discussed once and for all? Why cant they influence ogbulafor to support this project, perhaps he is an undercover mallam

i agree with u!!

babapupa

It doesn't matter how you cut and dice it. Any business venture that's not making money is a bad project, especially a poorly conceived, ill advised and misguided project.

All this ya essay just buttressed my point.


If I spent my company's money on a project like that without the necessary operating permits, den for don fire me long long time ago, but trust Nigerians to point fingers at other people. We have zero sense of discipline and responsibility, we exhibit the same foolish and dangerous mindset that's crippling the country.

Tinapa is just another chapter and example of our messed up national character.


Basic research shows that the planners were not professionals

Basic research shows that the planners didn't dot their lines before committing their money

What kind of fool/idiot commits hundreds of millions of dollars without license and approval to operate?

Now the project is a big ass white elephant losing millions of dollars day

The passengerless monorail alone cost 36 million dollars. What about urban monorail transportation to transport people from point A to B? That's how you help and touch people's lives, not some of no use to people waste and thoughtless project.

You don't have all the necessary infrastructures needed to back up big projects like Tinapa. You don't have good roads to move people in from other states, air transportation is too expensive and out of reach for almost 90% of Nigerians and you don't have well equipped hospitals to handle emergencies.

Casinos in America and other places are thriving because their customers have good roads to transport them in from hundreds/thousands miles and states away.

The so called potential costumers are not moving in for a variety of reasons starting from high cost of doing business in Nigeria especially when others are relocating outside Nigeria. Running a business on diesel 24/7 is straight mindless and unsustainable.


Yes, we have a messed up and incompetent federal system but must we blame them for other people's stupid mistakes and lousy planning? The federal government didn't force you to spend or waste your money on Tinapa without securing the necessary paperwork to operate.

People sneeze and blame the feds, people cough and blame the feds, people shit for pants and blame the feds, people steal money inside delta and they point fingers at the feds. when are we going to start blaming ourselves for our own shortcomings? this blame government for everything syndrome is getting out of hand.

It's like a sin to blame and demand representation from your elected leaders at the federal level, it's their job to lobby the feds and bring home the bacon, too bad they've mastered the art of bait and switch and succeeded in fooling their people that the federal government is responsible for every damn thin, they don't have to do any damn thing but collect fat paychecks, ride in fancy cars, build homes in all corners of the world and spend the people's money recklessly.

Other people bleeped up, not the feds. Good or bad, there are trade laws that must be enforced on the books and it's the responsibility of the state leaders to lobby the feds for adjustments before committing a dime of the state's resources.


Now they're talking about six flags. isn't six flags bankrupt? their stock is worth less than 20 cents.where will the loan/money come from? I'm sure no bank is gonna loan a bankrupt company hundreds of millions of dollars to invest in a challenging business climate like Nigeria. I'm sure they're counting on the state to front the loan via our clueless banks or misappropriate the treasury as usual.


It's ok to feel and exude pride when we see fancy things in our neighborhoods, but at what price when you still can't drink your typhoid water, your kids are still receiving lectures in sub standard and ill equipped sheds/classrooms, when people are losing their lives on deadly roads, when people are dying because of non existing medical facilities?


Same way they Ignored the lessons of Tinapa and came up with another scheme like six flags, they'll continue to ignore the people's needs and well being and keep coming up with wasteful and misguided showmanship projects while the people continue to suffer needlessly.


It's easy for these guys to come up with these mindless projects because the governors are clueless, they and their families are not going through what the average man is going trough. They drink good water, their kids are in the best schools in europe and america, their families have access to private jets to fly them to their choice of 1st class hospitals in europe and america and they don't have to travel on the deadly roads.

Your day to day concern is non of their business.

Why do we glorify waste and misguided projects and complain bitterly about lack of common human basic needs?


You can not have it both ways,

now this is bullocks

one of those thrash

now this is bullocks

one of those thrash

The above is on you till you counter every word/sentence in my post same way addressed the person I quoted like an adult.

Trash talk is basically trash talk, it can not be substituted with adult discussions and intelligent exchange of Ideas. I'm really not saying you can't talk trash because it's your God's given right, just count me out.

ha

k i heard my friend

no worries oo

babapupa:


It doesn't matter how you cut and dice it. Any business venture that's not making money is a bad project, especially a poorly conceived, ill advised and misguided project.

All this ya essay just buttressed my point.


If I spent my company's money on a project like that without the necessary operating permits, den for don fire me long long time ago, but trust Nigerians to point fingers at other people. We have zero sense of discipline and responsibility, we exhibit the same foolish  and dangerous mindset that's crippling the country.

Tinapa is just another chapter and example of our messed up national character.


Basic research shows that the planners were not professionals

Basic research shows that the planners didn't dot their lines before committing their money

What kind of fool/idiot commits hundreds of millions of dollars without license and approval to operate?

Now the project is a big ass white elephant losing millions of dollars day

The passengerless monorail alone cost 36 million dollars. What about urban monorail transportation to transport people from point A to  B? That's how you help and touch people's lives, not some of no use to people waste and thoughtless project.

You don't have all the necessary infrastructures needed to back up big projects like Tinapa. You don't have good roads to move people in from other states, air transportation is too expensive and out of reach for almost 90% of Nigerians and you don't have well equipped hospitals to handle emergencies.

Casinos in America and other places are thriving because their customers have good roads to transport them in from hundreds/thousands miles and states away.

The so called potential costumers are not moving in for a variety of reasons starting from high cost of doing business in Nigeria especially when others are relocating outside Nigeria. Running a business on diesel 24/7 is straight mindless and unsustainable.


Yes, we have a messed up and incompetent federal system but must we blame them for other people's stupid mistakes and lousy planning? The federal government didn't force you to spend or waste your money on Tinapa  without securing the necessary paperwork to operate.

People sneeze and blame the feds, people cough and blame the feds, people shit for pants and blame the feds, people steal money inside delta and they point fingers at the feds. when are we going to start blaming ourselves for our own shortcomings? this blame government for everything syndrome is getting out of hand. 

It's like a sin to blame and demand representation from your elected leaders at the federal level, it's their job to lobby the feds and bring home the bacon,  too bad they've mastered the art of bait and switch and succeeded in fooling their people that the federal government is responsible for every damn thin, they don't have to do any damn thing but collect fat paychecks, ride in fancy cars, build homes in all corners of the world and spend the people's money recklessly.

Other people bleeped up, not the feds. Good or bad, there are trade laws that must be enforced on the books and it's the responsibility of the state leaders to lobby the feds for adjustments before committing a dime of the state's resources.


Now they're talking about six flags. isn't six flags bankrupt? their stock is worth less than 20 cents.where will the loan/money come from? I'm sure no bank is gonna loan a bankrupt company hundreds of millions of dollars to invest in a challenging business climate like Nigeria. I'm sure they're counting on the state to front the loan via our clueless banks or misappropriate the treasury as usual. 


It's ok to feel and exude pride when we see fancy things in our neighborhoods, but  at what price when you still can't drink your typhoid water, your kids are still receiving lectures in sub standard and ill equipped sheds/classrooms, when people are losing their lives on deadly roads, when people are dying because of non existing medical facilities?


Same way they Ignored the lessons of Tinapa and came up with another scheme like six flags, they'll continue to ignore the people's needs and well being and keep coming up with wasteful and misguided showmanship projects while the people continue to suffer needlessly.


It's easy for these guys to come up with these mindless projects because the governors are clueless, they and their families are not going through what the average man is going trough. They drink good water, their kids are in the best schools in europe and america, their families have access to private jets to fly them to their choice of 1st class hospitals in europe and america and they don't have to travel on the deadly roads.

Your day to day concern is non of their business.

Why do we glorify waste and misguided projects and complain bitterly about lack of common human basic needs?


You can not have it both ways,

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

I'll make sure to respond to you more positively and comprehensively as soon ass Tinapa starts making money to build roads, bridges, hospitals and schools and people of calabar starts drinking disease free water, employ 10 thousand youths and all the other stuff you named. Right now, Tinapa is a big ole' money losing pit with zero benefits, use and gain to the calabar people. That you can not dispute.


About me getting fired, you're basically disputing and buttressing my point at the same time. Go invest your job's money on some project without securing necessary permits to operate and see how fast you get fired.

The obvious implication here is the fact that the state and their partners were reckless and incompetent. Tinapa is gathering dust because of that single incompetent act. meanwhile, Tinapa is losing millions of dollars a day, just imagine how many roads, bridges, schools and hospitals construction jobs that go don create, I'm talking about millions of dollars worth of construction projects since 2007.

babapupa:

I'll make sure to respond to you more positively and comprehensively as soon ass Tinapa starts making money  to build roads, bridges, hospitals and schools and people of calabar starts drinking disease free water, employ 10 thousand youths and all the other stuff you named. Right now, Tinapa is a big ole' money losing pit with zero benefits, use and gain to the calabar people. That you can not dispute.


About me getting fired, you're basically disputing and buttressing my point at the same time. Go invest your job's money on some project without  securing necessary permits to operate and see how fast you get fired.

The obvious implication here is the fact that the state and their partners were reckless and incompetent. Tinapa is gathering dust because of that single incompetent act. meanwhile, Tinapa is losing millions of dollars a day, just imagine how many roads, bridges, schools and hospitals construction jobs that go don create, I'm talking about millions of dollars worth of construction projects since 2007.

Did not say the project was perfectly executed or government financial involvement was ideal, just thought your criticism was based on ignorance of the specifics of it and ignorance on calabar, hence you sounded like you didn't know what you were talking about and your previous posts on the issue showed that you indeed didn't. Hence your arguements were just based on band wagon hopping (and still are) rather than actual insightful discourse which could get to the heart of the matter based on reasoned debates. But then again, you do not seem to be interested in getting to the heart of the matter, you just want to let off steam and lambast blindly even if you did not (in my personal opinion btw) know fully what you are talking about.

@babapupa
I joined Sky Blue to believe you do not know Calabar.
Many of these basic infrastructure you talk about
are in place in Calabar - at least by Nigeria standard.
Good intra-city road network, clean and lush. Calabar has
got no pipe-borne water problems. The taps are running with clean water.

The CBN Governor announced early this week that all loans towards
the building of Tinapa have been paid up by the Cross River State.
I was in Tinapa last week and activities are picking up.

What does "Tinapa" really mean in any Nigerian language? Pardon my stupid question but I'm just curious. The only "Tinapa" we know in Ghana comes in cans and smothered in tomato sauce like this:

http://stores.xnicstore.com/catalog/AAF001.CANNED%20MEAT.jpg

In the Philippines, it's smoked fish like these,

http://www.filipino-food-lovers.com/site-images/tinapa/tinapa.jpg
http://www.filipino-food-lovers.com/site-images/tinapa/tinapa_rack.jpg
http://www.filipino-food-lovers.com/site-images/tinapa/tinapa_grill.jpg

perhaps there's a fish in that part of the country with that name or maybe the lead designer is from asia

wish there's a post in the future to see how many people from nairaland visit Tinapa/Calabar

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Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.



Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.


You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty alleviation is to give people food using state treasury but I would disagree with such a line of thinking. It is government and not a soup kitchen, the best way to alleviate poverty especially in Nigeria (in my opinion) is to provide employment so people can earn a living and lift themselves out of poverty. TINAPA not only attracted foreign investment, but also in full operation is to provide jobs for over ten thousand people. That is ten thousand possible youths of the streets, earning a living and having the opportunity to provide for themselves.

You start of your post with talk of how if this was a business you will get fired, perhaps you should consider why there are hardly any big ventures of this size in the country. How would you know wether or not such a venture would have been profitable when shops were not even allowed to sell goods and the project was put on hold because of the dilly dallying at a macro level and the propensity the Federal government has of playing politics with the simplest of thing? You want to talk about business turning profits, I am sure you would be aware that a lot of big businesses don't start making a profit till years ahead, some even take years to break even and recupprate capital. I am not saying the project was executed perfectly but I think the simplistic approach you try to paint it in, especially one driven by what I will say is ignorance of the actual project and state is uncalled for, provides false information and to be honest a tad arrogant. You think the planners did not have financial projections? Perhaps they were too stupid and not as clever as you to consider the financial ramifications of such a big project, right?

Familiarise yourself with calabar and with the project, then at least when you castigate it you do so with actual knowledge of it and get to the probable heart of the matter instead of all this blind sensationalism and bandwagon jumping.

Sorry but I would once again have to point to ignorance with regards to your post, I really don't know where to begin but I will attempt.

Obasanjo himslef came to open the project to much publicity and fanfare, the project was meant to be a free trade zone project, that fact that Obasanjo himself was there to open it shows you that the federal government was aware of the project. Free trade zone status isn't like getting a permit and hence does not really constitute lack of planning, how can you blame the project organisers for the federal government dragging its feet and playing politics with every single darn thing? We aren't talking of permit, we are talking of legislation.

Calabar has one of the best roads in the country and is pretty much the cleanest city in Nigeria even with their meagre resources hence when you argue that there is no infrastructure to begin with then I really have to question how much you actually really know about the project and about calabar. No planning for the project? TINAPA has its own power plant to get over the epileptic NEPA supply, road networks to link it to the city, Monorail being built to link it to the airport which would create ease of transportation to the site, and an actual future plan of sustainability and you say no plan? Although Calabar's roadnetwork is not as extensive as lagos, the ones they have are well maintained and clean, yet the Palms in Lagos (a non free trade zone mall I should add) did not run into any difficulty, why?

You keep on talking about poverty, perhaps your idea of poverty allevia

Chineke!

Upon all the advert on the CNN for about 2 years even Supersport

I was expecting something spectacular!!!

But what a waste!

BULLSHIT!

I visited the website and it reads "Africa's Premier Business and leisure Result".


http://tinapa.com.ng/leisure/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1

Its a beautiful place but that's a ridiculous title.