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Piltdown review points decisive finger at forger Dawson - BBC News
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37021144


Researchers have finished an eight-year study of one of the most infamous forgeries in the history of science - the fake human ancestor Piltdown Man.
They conclude that the forged fossils were made by one man: the prime suspect and "discoverer" Charles Dawson.
The human-like skull fragments and an ape-like jaw, complete with two teeth, shook the scientific world in 1912 but were exposed as a hoax in 1953.
New tests show the bones came from two or three humans and one orangutan.

The research, published in Royal Society Open Science, was a multi-disciplinary collaboration including palaeobiologists, historians, dental experts and ancient DNA specialists.
Comparing the methods used on multiple forged specimens dug up near the Sussex village of Piltdown from 1912 to 1916, the team found what they describe as a highly consistent modus operandi:
The same reddish-brown stain was applied to make the bones look old
The specimens had appropriate local gravel packed into their crevices
Dentist's putty was used to fix the teeth and gravel in place
Such a fixed strategy for fooling the scientific establishment points to a single person conducting the operation, said Isabelle De Groote from Liverpool John Moores University.

Orangutan DNA
Critically, it also links two separate locations: "Piltdown I" where the original jawbone and skull fragments were planted and excavated in 1912, and "Piltdown II" 3km away where Dawson claimed to find a matching tooth and skull pieces in 1915.

"What we've been able to demonstrate is a signature, a fingerprint throughout all of these specimens, even including the second molar from the second Piltdown site," said Dr De Groote, first author of the study.
"Dawson is the only one who ever said there was a Piltdown II site; he's the only one who was ever associated with it and we can clearly link that molar to the original specimens."
That case is clinched by detailed analysis of the various teeth.
The exact shape of molars from the two sites, as well as traces of DNA found in teeth at both Piltdown I and Piltdown II, suggest they all came from the jawbone of a single orangutan - probably belonging to a rare subspecies from Borneo.
Remarkably, Dawson appears to have removed the teeth, breaking the jaw in the process, then ground them down to make them appear more human and stuck two molars back in the jaw with putty and gravel.
But planting a third tooth at Piltdown II, a century before ancient DNA analysis became possible, was his undoing.

"That has to be Dawson, there's no doubt about that. He's the only person uniquely linked with both those sites," said co-author Chris Stringer from London's Natural History Museum.
It is still possible that someone else supplied the specimens for Dawson to "discover", Prof Stringer added. But the amateur collector, anxious for scientific acclaim, was certainly "the central figure".
Made to order
As a consequence, several other suspects are now off the hook, Dr De Groote said, including the French priest Teilhard de Chardin who excavated an isolated canine tooth at the Piltdown I site in 1913.
The new findings place that tooth firmly in the same orangutan jaw as the molars, which are now tied to Dawson.
"It exonerates a number of people who have been accused," Dr De Groote told BBC News.
She and her colleagues' fresh insights into the forger's methods - such as the precisely matching gravel embedded in the bones - also point to Dawson.
"It was very carefully done," she said. "That's another thing that exonerates some others - for example, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was one of the suspects.
"Obviously he could write a good story, but he probably would never have had the skill or the scientific knowledge to prepare a forgery like this one."

Dawson, on the other hand, had a long-standing interest in antiquity and fossil collecting. He knew that scientists were expecting the earliest human ancestor to have a big brain but an ape-like jaw.
"He listened very carefully," said Dr De Groote, adding that he even tailored subsequent forgeries to the reaction of the scientific community.
"When a jaw and the skull bones were announced, there was a big discussion at the Geological Society about what the canine in such an animal would look like. And, ta-da - six or seven months later, a canine shows up and it looks exactly like what they had predicted."
She says her sleuthing on the Piltdown saga has made her think no evidence should be taken for granted, and scientists must beware their preconceptions.
"If something fits a hypothesis maybe too well, question it again."

The scandal also makes a clear argument for not locking up fossils, Dr De Groote said; for decades after the discovery, scientists were only rarely given access to the Piltdown specimens themselves.
She said even today, her PhD students often face difficulties getting hold of samples.
"The field of palaeoanthropology is still very much a field of fossil hoarding."
By contrast, the recent example of the Homo naledi skeletons being quickly made available as printable 3D files is extremely positive.
"In the last four or five years, this has started to change," Dr De Groote said.
"Open access should include making fossils accessible to people. Now they can be scanned and shared very easily - it would just make for better science."

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na today? it has been a lie ever since

Evolutionists wont like this.

27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

Since they used a lone molar tooth to dishonestly prove a whole human in the 20th century evolution movement, ive known that it is more than just a theory. It is a conspiracy in actuality.

They say fossils dont prove evolution. And this is the only proof that Darwin anticipated. But they say it anyway to cover their tracks. Anyone who desperately disbelieves in God will so desperately want his atheism to be true. This gives him the propensity to proclaim even absurdity as facts.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApJ-nvNoTSg


Its not surprising how some people could be satisfied that Man is from bacteria or mice or fishes. Its dishonesty that drives one to atheism in the first place.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihGKNahWxUg

jmichlins:
you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

Its just a piece of news, nobody made any comments on it.

I just hope your mind is not judging you? Hence your reading meanings!

They project even cartoons as truth with absolutely no evidence for such absurdity.

jmichlins:
you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

I just hope you tell your atheist brothers the same when they open their threads.

It has been exposed to be forgery since 1953, they just discovered the perpetrator..

I don't see how this a news though.

So am I suppose to become a christian after reading this?

Edenoscar:
So am I suppose to become a christian after reading this?

Sorry u r in the wrong thread. Go and fight with your conscience somewhere else. It was a piece of news released today, not a commentary.
Bye!

jmichlins:
you had to resort to science to prove science wrong, what do we use to prove religion teaching like earth been the center of the universe wrong. I keep telling my fellow theist to keep on their lane and not force your teachings upon others. Live and let live is the true way of life

SHARAAP!!!!!!!

Who deceived you that evolution is science?

Haaa, sorry!

He is using science to disprove a lie!

felixomor:


Sorry u r in the wrong thread. Go and fight with your conscience somewhere else. It was a piece of news released today, not a commentary.
Bye!

Hahahahahahahaha
Look we all know the reason why you created this thread.sorry it didn't work

Edenoscar:

Hahahahahahahaha
Look we all know the reason why you created this thread.sorry it didn't work

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Look we all know the reason why you are posting here. Just to subdue your conscience, console yourself and encourage yourself in believing a LIE.

Sorry, it didn't just work and WILL NEVER work!

.... Here we go again





I'll pass though.

SirWere:
.... Here we go again






I'll pass though.

You'll pass ? You tell us to question everything but if it impugns your daft theories , you become obdurate about their validity in the absence of evidence . Hypocrites !!!

By the way , if you question everything you'd be an agnostic not an atheist - its simple logic

KingEbukasBlog:


You'll pass ? You tell us to question everything but if it impugns your daft theories , you become obdurate about their validity in the absence of evidence . Hypocrites !!!

By the way , if you question everything you'd be an agnostic not an atheist - its simple logic

Yes yes yes. We see how threads like this litter the internet everyday.

Besides, who were the people who officially declared it a forgery? Creationist Hell No. It was biologists who accepted evolution and saw the obvious disrepancies in the fossil.


And I'm agnostic. Don't get your point

If evolution is real, I should have grow wings now, or have tail

Its like you ddnt read the article

The human-like skull fragments and an ape-like jaw, complete with two teeth, shook the scientific world in 1912 but were exposed as a hoax in 1953.

They just found out who was the person that forged it, it has nothing to do with Evolution, stop looking for holes where there are none...

The scientific community has already acknowledged Piltdown Man was a hoax... 60 years ago.

And there is still plenty of legitimate, non-forged fossil evidence proving human evolution. So I'm not exactly sure what you were aiming to accomplish with this thread.

donnffd:
Its like you ddnt read the article



They just found out who was the person that forged it, it has nothing to do with Evolution, stop looking for holes where there are none...

Thats not the point. The point is, why was it accepted as part of mans evolutionary process without initial proper checks? It was obviously based on personal recognition.

If it was based on personal recognition then that means there are possibly other scientific submissions about evolution that were also accepted without necessary checks.

This is why we say that SCIENCE NEVER LIES BUT SCIENTISTS DO!

mcemmy0z:
If evolution is real, I should have grow wings now, or have tail

If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

cloudgoddess:

If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

If evolution was real by now we would have some micro evolution like multi skin pigmentation or finger nail texture change or eye lashes falling off or men with 36 teeth. Ironically those are called defects and not an evolutionary process. I wonder why.

cloudgoddess:

If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

School me then.
Or we are already in the last stage

SirWere:
Yes yes yes. We see how threads like this litter the internet everyday.

Besides, who were the people who officially declared it a forgery? Creationist Hell No. It was biologists who accepted evolution and saw the obvious disrepancies in the fossil.

Its from a credible source and from the source we can see clearly that experts in various fields are involved . You are not being grovelled to choose intelligent design just don't try to be an exponent of a false theory .

And I'm agnostic. Don't get your point

Calling yourself an agnostic is a misnomer 'cos you clearly attack religious people only and never the atheists . Logic demands an agnostic to attack both sides .

cloudgoddess:

If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

Evolution has no goal ,direction or purpose so why do you rule out a possibility

4everGod:



Thats not the point. The point is, why was it accepted as part of mans evolutionary process without initial proper checks? It was obviously based on personal recognition.

If it was based on personal recognition then that means there are possibly other scientific submissions about evolution that were also accepted without necessary checks.

This is why we say that SCIENCE NEVER LIES BUT SCIENTISTS DO!

I agree, but the beauty of science is having an error correcting system... it was still scientists that exposed it as a hoax, so if another was forged also, i am certain it would have been exposed by now...

mcemmy0z:

School me then.
Or we are already in the last stage

Oh Yeah. Cloudgoddess would declare that scientists have declared that man is the height of evolution so the evolutionary process has ceased.

However if she does not say that and she declares that micro evolution is still occurring then the Onus is on her to show us proof of todays evolutionary process.

Suffice to say that you should expect no response from her at this point as she knows when her theory begins to fade away

4everGod:


If evolution was real by now we would have some micro evolution like multi skin pigmentation or finger nail texture change or eye lashes falling off or men with 36 teeth. Ironically those are called defects and not an evolutionary process. I wonder why.

You dont really understand it at all and funny enough,you dont want to learn...

cloudgoddess:

If you actually understood what evolution was/how it worked, you would have not made that statement.

How does evolution work?

donnffd:


I agree, but the beauty of science is having an error correcting system... it was still scientists that exposed it as a hoax, so if another was forged also, i am certain it would have been exposed by now...

An error correcting system? Todays world is governed by information and curiosity and like you Atheists say...Proof! So it has nothing to do with any error correcting system. Dont worry you will be hearing about more pretty soon same way the below list were also debunked.

Fleischmann–Pons’s Nuclear Fusion

Phrenology

The Blank Slate

Luminiferous Aether

Einstein’s Static (or Stationary) Universe

Martian Canals

Phlogiston Theory

The Expanding or Growing Earth

Discovery of the Planet Vulcan

Spontaneous (or Equivocal) Generation

I had to blow up the last one emphatically and you know why?

Spontaneous generation or equivocal generation is an obsolete principle concerning the origin of life from inanimate matter. The hypothesis was brought out by Aristotle who advocated the work of earlier natural philosophers. It was proven wrong in the 19th century by the experiments of Louis Pasteur, drawing influence from Francesco Redi who was an early proponent of germ theory and cell theory.

Still back to evolution.