bluaero:
Cloudgoddess, I also like to think that the "supernatural" does not exist. I wonder how we could explain spiritual manifestations in church deliverance sessions, ancient exorcisms etc.

AmenRa1:

Its all in the brain

4kings:

Pls explain wat u mean.

bluaero:
Cloudgoddess, I also like to think that the "supernatural" does not exist. I wonder how we could explain spiritual manifestations in church deliverance sessions, ancient exorcisms etc.

AmenRa1:


What does he mean by spiritual manifestation? Is it when parstor waves his hand and people start falling?? We are in a country were people consider their pastor as "God" a special man, God chosen. I really don't know where that ideology came from but if people start considering their pastor as "God" don't U think it would have a psychological Effect on them Why? Because this is a God they can actually see any every action is to please Him! Now explaining the spiritual manifestation Last two years If I am correct The musicians P-Square Went to perform on stage, immediately they stepped on stage and start singing Two Girls Fainted What would U Call That?? That they were over come by the holy spirit? Of course not it's just the way their brain precieve things. The musician Michael Jackson Steps on Stage More That 100people Fainted What Do U Call That??

cloudgoddess:
I think supernatural is a word humanity came up with when we still understood very, very little about nature. We thought our understanding of nature at the time was the best us "mere mortals" could do, and that everything outside of that miniscule realm of understanding must be outside of what we considered "nature".

But now, as humanity's collective thinking has evolved and progressed, and we've discovered information far, far beyond the limits we once thought restricted us indefinitely, the realm of things considered "supernatural" is getting smaller and smaller.

This is precisely what we would expect to happen if the word supernatural really just meant "natural things humans do not understand and are compelled to make up explanations for based on very limited information".

There are still lots of things we don't know, and even our most forward-thinking intellectuals are willing to admit that. But as time goes on its become glaringly apparent that the things we don't know yet might just be things we don't know yet, due to lack of information. Not magic.

Things that were once thought to be 100% SUPERNATURAL but are now explained in full, or at least partially(*), by natural processes:

Rain, thunder and lightening
Weather patterns in general, seasons
Air (how it keeps us alive, what's contained in it)
Fire
Water
Jewels, gold and other precious metals (how they got there, what's in them, whether or not they have powers)
Volcanoes
Planets
Stars
Meteorites/shooting stars/other space debris
Thinking
Consciousness*
Emotions (sadness, depression, aggression, happiness and so on have been attributed to gods, spirits, & demons)
Generational Trauma
Sickness (bacteria, viruses, etc)
Childbirth (& everything that can go wrong with it, incl. miscarriage)
Genetics & Heredity (DNA, genetically inherited illnesses aka 'family curses')
Blindness
Deafness
Seizures (all the poor epileptic children forced to undergo "exorcism", sigh)
Mental Illness (this could have it's own thread honestly)
Addiction
Genetic Diversity (how it's generated & maintained)
Agriculture (crop yields, etc)

Feel free to add to the list and discuss!
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AmenRa1:


What does he mean by spiritual manifestation? Is it when parstor waves his hand and people start falling?? We are in a country were people consider their pastor as "God" a special man, God chosen. I really don't know where that ideology came from but if people start considering their pastor as "God" don't U think it would have a psychological Effect on them Why? Because this is a God they can actually see any every action is to please Him! Now explaining the spiritual manifestation Last two years If I am correct The musicians P-Square Went to perform on stage, immediately they stepped on stage and start singing Two Girls Fainted What would U Call That?? That they were over come by the holy spirit? Of course not it's just the way their brain precieve things. The musician Michael Jackson Steps on Stage More That 100people Fainted What Do U Call That??

Ranchhoddas:
I am a skeptic too but it is totally crazy to say that all the things that happen in churches are in the brain. That is just plain denial. It is even better to employ the ''we do not understand it yet'' line than to attempt to suggest that they all hallucinations or stage-managed...Saying this would be an even bigger delusion than having faith in one deity or the other.

4kings:

I don't think u explained anything (no offence!).
Falling is not the only spiritual manifestations

AmenRa1:

See they is a scientific explanation for all those stuff I just decided to explain it a way everyone would understand!!

AmenRa1:

Which other do U know

4kings:

Actual healing. durhhh

AmenRa1:

Like growing of amputated limbs abi

4kings:

Gosh, smh
If you really don't understand what I mean, then I won't bother indulging you.
Adios

Ranchhoddas:
I am a skeptic too but it is totally crazy to say that all the things that happen in churches are in the brain. That is just plain denial. It is even better to employ the ''we do not understand it yet'' line than to attempt to suggest that they all hallucinations or stage-managed...Saying this would be an even bigger delusion than having faith in one deity or the other.

HCpaul:


I understand your point bro. Infact, I had an encounter with a man who started telling me some hidden secrets of my life immediately when sighting me. To be sincere, I couldn't deny those predictions because they was accurately given.

But is that enough to validate the supernatural? Definitely no!

There are natural processes taken place and they've sharpen their instincts and inner intuitive ability beyond Normal scenario. They work with discretions which sometimes their prophecies will be void and totally inaccurate.

Anyone can prophecy if he or she wants to, just that who cares? ? ?

Ranchhoddas:
I understand you but what kind of sharpened instinct turns an SS genotype to AA?