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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:14pm On Apr 23, 2017
obaaderemi:
The largely illiterate north is the region with political power,yet their region continues to drag nigeria down statistically.All the development here and the guys engaging you are from the south.They have managed to build an enviable entertainment industry and a big economy which dwarfs many more stable African countries' economies in spite of the aberration in power.
Speaking of the north of Nigeria, explain something to me like am a 2 year old. Explain to me why within the same country Nigeria, there exists 2 legal codes: sharia and common law. If it is true that this happens,as it definitely is, how then can you call it one country, because my understanding of the definition of a country is that everywhere within it obeys one code.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:16pm On Apr 23, 2017
Jay254:


It is the responsibility of every Government to develop acountry. Its apon the govt of Nigeria to find solutions to its problems and not give excuses.. Kenya is not different from Nija, the southern side is more developed than the North hence govt has come up with major projects to open up the northen side.
guy u can Neva undstnd naija until u live here, its one of d most complex countries in d world . I don't think there's any country in Africa that's as diverse as Nigeria .

u people will just keep judging Nigeria as if u know anytin abt d country, its a very beautiful country with a lot of mountains and rivers but d cultural and ethnic diversity is d number 1 cos of our problem in Nigeria . No 2 is oil
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:22pm On Apr 23, 2017
Nowenuse:


Botswana and Namibia are extremely small countries of 2 million people each, with large land masses of abundant rescources, just like the population of Port harcourt only, covering the whole Nigerian landmass with all the natural rescources therein. They should even be comparing 1st world nations by now considering their tiny population and abundant rescources, so i really don't consider them succesful at all.

Comparing SA to Nigeria is quite unfair because SA is over 100 yrs older than Nigeria. They started building their country at the same time with countries like Brazil, Argentina, Chile e.t.c how can we ever equal them in infrastructural development? However, we equal them in human development and economic growth.

Kenya is not such a bad country, at least for a fairly populous black african country, they are not doing that bad. People like you feel Kenya is better than Nigeria probably because you don't understand the in and out of Kenya.
I myself used to think that Kenya is better than Nigeria, not until i discovered how they work. What Kenya does is that they go for the very best of quality infrastructure, human development and services only in a few selected parts of their cities/country/population and they leave a huge chunk of the remainder to rot away (to their fate). So by the time you end up seeing only their few developed parts, you conclude that they are better than Nigeria (which is not really true).
The way Nigeria works on the other hand is different! Our system more or less believes in even development of our people and even spread of rescources. We don't set world standards for only a tiny portion of our population/cities/states and abandon the rest to utter despondence or neglect. This is why we have a far higher percentage of urbanized, more socialized, enterprising, exposed and industrious population than Kenya or even East Africa combined (if not for core-northern Nigerians dragging us backwards).
True, Botswana and Namibia have a way smaller population with diamonds, but we can learn from their growth and stable political structure. If you don't want to compare to countries older why don't we look at East Asian Countries that were in the same position as Nigeria and far surpass us. Abeg, which development is being spread out in Nigeria? All I see is sub par infrastructure with only a few good ones in the rich areas. Let's face us, many African countries are passing us. My friend just told me he gets more hours of stable electricity in Benin than he does in Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:22pm On Apr 23, 2017
Jay254:


The whole world will always judge Nigeria as one... Fix your problems and let the past go.
go and tell buhari DAT wan loooooll
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:23pm On Apr 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Can't you detect contradictions in your own statements? You just negated the first bolded statement with your last. There is nothing like an even development when the northern half is worse than any East African country and possibly comparable to Somalia. Who neglected the northern nigerians if not for your government and society?

First of all, i'd like to correct you, not the whole Northern half of Nigeria is backwards, the middle parts of the North (where i am from) are almost as progressive as Southernerns ok? The problem is the far or core-northernerns who are overwhemingly muslim.

Look at the reason why i am not contradicting myself.

Core-northern Nigeria has equal opportunities with every other place in the country. Infact they dominate Nigeria's politics and have produced more political leaders.
The problem with them is the kind of islam they practice, like the kind you find in Somalia. The kind of islam that makes a large part of their population unprogressive.

Core northnerns have government schools as much as the south, but they really don't have that educational zeal. They cherish islamic education more than western education. They believe that women should still be kept in purdah (indoors). They believe in Sharia law. They believe in having many children (probably so that muslims will outnumber christians).

Core northerners even have more states than others, they receive large monthly allocations from the federal govt as well as other states. The problem is their priority. So they are not neglected in any way, they only have a culture that is not very much wealth generating.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:25pm On Apr 23, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Speaking of the north of Nigeria, explain something to me like am a 2 year old. Explain to me why within the same country Nigeria, there exists 2 legal codes: sharia and common law. If it is true that this happens,as it definitely is, how then can you call it one country, because my understanding of the definition of a country is that everywhere within it obeys one code.

You indeed have countries in which several codes are in operation. It is called Federalism which Nigeria practices although it is not popular in Africa. Different parts of a country might have cultural differences and this might neccesitate the creation of another tier of government like State governments or regional governments. This governments have the right to make laws in some areas that concern their territory without the interference of the Central government. That is where the power of some Northern States to adopt shariah comes from. However, there are areas in which only the Federal Government can make laws eg marital,police affairs and laws dealing with corruption.
So uniform code is not a prerequisite for the formation of a country.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:27pm On Apr 23, 2017
Just30:
they are the sources of most Ghanaian pidgin words.

How come we don't hear Ghanaian pidgin at all? Not in your musics.
Why don't you want to give examples here?

Many Nigerian pidgin words are from local Nigerian languages, but i can write them very well. So why can't you write Ghanaian pidgin here? I just don't get you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:28pm On Apr 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Can't you detect contradictions in your own statements? You just negated the first bolded statement with your last. There is nothing like an even development when the northern half is worse than any East African country and possibly comparable to Somalia. Who neglected the northern nigerians if not for your government and society?
Abeg, don't try and put the blame on us. In most of Nigeria's history Northerners have ruled the government. They neglected themselves and Northerners are too myopic to see this. I'm tired of the poor Northerners diatribe when they have been primarily responsible for so many military coups and small ethnic cleansings like whats happenings now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:28pm On Apr 23, 2017
Nowenuse:


We built the largest and one of the finest cities in Africa (Abuja) entirely from the scratch.

We are building the largest single refinery in the world (Dangote)

We are the first black Africans to start manufacturing cars (100% indigenously owned car manufacturing company)

We have the best and most influential banking industry in Africa

Best, richest and most influential entertainment and fashion industry in Africa

The most succesful businessmen in Africa (more billionaire business men)

The first African country to succesfully launch a satelite.

We are currently building the largest financial city and centre in Africa on an island (lost lands recovered from the sea)

The list is endless!
so be it! Now let us be

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:30pm On Apr 23, 2017
LeSudAfricaine:
so be it! Now let us be
ode are u not in a nigerian forum
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:32pm On Apr 23, 2017
MrMaestro:
Lol i'm not struggling, thank you very much. I'm doing quite well, as are many other nigerians clearly as we have the most billionaires and millionaires. We are definitely doing better than black south africans thats for sure. So your rhetoric falls on deaf ears. You all are clearly slaves to both white and black south africans. But keep facing Nigerians instead of controlling your own country.
Lol, boasting about a few millionaires in a sea of poverty makes no sense.continue comparing yourselves to South Africans but know that us South Africans don't compare ourselves to you because we don't see you as competition

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:32pm On Apr 23, 2017
obaaderemi:
This still doesn't change the fact that switzerland has 4 official languages despite its size.And no,sir,you can't forget the French speaking part of the country because it's 25% of the population and doesn't like to speak german.So,at the end they all have to embrace english,a foreign tongue(England is considered non-continental in terms of Europe).In essence,the power and global reach of English is going to diminish the spread of any other/local language,i.e hausa,swahili,russian,etc.That's my drift if you had followed.I would prefer to stick to my yoruba but how would I be able to enjoy hollywood productions or the internet or great books without a fair grasp of English.Even Asia could not reject English.

Before English became the world language, French dominated a while and before french was latin.
My point is that Europe have always had a way out with their linguistic diversity. They are polyglots by nature and they naturally speak 2 or more languages.

Most swiss germans understand french and vice versa, same thing in Belgium btw the Flemish and walloonians. They will just choose not to speak another language apart from their mother's tongue or English because they feel their neighbours should speak their own language in their territory and not because they really do not understand the language. It's a thing of ego.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:32pm On Apr 23, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Have you ever travelled out of Nigeria?

Of course.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:33pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
but northern Nigeria is blessed with so many things like mountains, hills, fertile land, and so many others. northern Nigeria is d heart of Nigeria's agricultural sector

This na joke o, but what is the possibility South can annex North and kick Northerners back to Chad grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:34pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
ode are u not in a nigerian forum
yes I am,...but I can simply log in and out at will. Can your countrymen in SA simply log in and out from my country?lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:35pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
yes we are bro, Africa will only progress when Nigeria progresses (fact) . d destiny of Africa is on Nigeria's palms everybody in d world knows
yes the likes of Chad and Niger etc
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:35pm On Apr 23, 2017
Nowenuse:


How come we don't hear Ghanaian pidgin at all? Not in your musics.
Why don't you want to give examples here?

Many Nigerian pidgin words are from local Nigerian languages, but i can write them very well. So why can't you write Ghanaian pidgin here? I just don't get you
that's becos there's nothing like Ghanaian pidgin, they just copied Nigerians finish, that's y they are scared of using it in their music and movies cos people will say they copied Nigerians looooll
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:42pm On Apr 23, 2017
Jay254:


Slums in Nairobi only constitute 5% of the land size all info are online... Slums can not be seen easly in Nairobi unless you travel alot.. Most of Nairobians if you ask them have seen very few slums around the city. Ask a honest Nigerian in Kenya.

You cannot expect us to believe you when all available statistics online contradict your claims.

Nairobi's slums are reported to be the most numerous and largest on the continent and Nairobi is not that big in size, so how can you make anyone believe that they are only 5%?
What is the Gdp and Gdp per capital (nominal) of Nairobi pls?
From a source i saw online, the per capital income of Nairobi was below the national per capital income, butressing the fact that there is a large population of poor people in Nairobi.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:43pm On Apr 23, 2017
LeSudAfricaine:
Lol, boasting about a few millionaires in a sea of poverty makes no sense.continue comparing yourselves to South Africans but know that us South Africans don't compare ourselves to you because we don't see you as competition
Then why are you on a Nigerian forum you hateful dullard? All African countries suffer with inequality and poverty but this mumu is trying to attack Nigeria which has a way higher population than any African Nations. The irony is Nigerians don't talk about SA often, its always Ghana for the most part grin.No African country is good, is just that which one is less shitty lipsrsealed. We all have to work on our own countries, so go back to your township and start fixing your problems. .I hope oyou haven't killed any Somalis today.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:44pm On Apr 23, 2017
LeSudAfricaine:
Lol, boasting about a few millionaires in a sea of poverty makes no sense.continue comparing yourselves to South Africans but know that us South Africans don't compare ourselves to you because we don't see you as competition
looooolll who is competing with south Africa guy if u like white people shud build heaven in south Africa, u guys will still be Nigeria's kid brother its a well known fact that Nigeria is bigger than all African nations, so I don't know who u think is competing with u looooooolll. black mumus will be bragging abt white peoples achievement looooolll.

guy and I don't know how many times they will tell u that NIGERIA IS ALMOST 200 MILLION!!!!!! there will surely be poverty just like Brazil ,China , india (our real competitors)

so guy nobody dey compete with S.A maybe all those small nations but definitely not nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:45pm On Apr 23, 2017
Nowenuse:


You cannot expect us to believe you when all available statistics online contradict your claims.

Nairobi's slums are reported to be the most numerous and largest on the continent and Nairobi is not that big in size, so how can you make anyone believe that they are only 5%?
What is the Gdp and Gdp per capital (nominal) of Nairobi pls?
From a source i saw online, the per capital income of Nairobi was below the national per capital income, butressing the fact that there is a large population of poor people in Nairobi.
He will reply that all of Nigeria is a slum and that what constitutes a slum in Kenya is just a dwelling in Nigeria. I know how they roll

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 2:47pm On Apr 23, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


You indeed have countries in which several codes are in operation. It is called Federalism which Nigeria practices although it is not popular in Africa. Different parts of a country might have cultural differences and this might neccesitate the creation of another tier of government like State governments or regional governments. This governments have the right to make laws in some areas that concern their territory without the interference of the Central government. That is where the power of some Northern States to adopt shariah comes from. However, there are areas in which only the Federal Government can make laws eg marital,police affairs and laws dealing with corruption.
So uniform code is not a prerequisite for the formation of a country.
Does nigeria have a constitution? If so, what is its purpose?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:47pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
looooolll who is competing with south Africa guy if u like white people shud build heaven in south Africa, u guys will still be Nigeria's kid brother its a well known fact that Nigeria is bigger than all African nations, so I don't know who u think is competing with u looooooolll. black mumus will be bragging abt white peoples achievement looooolll.

guy and I don't know how many times they will tell u that NIGERIA IS ALMOST 200 MILLION!!!!!! there will surely be poverty just like Brazil ,China , india (our real competitors)

so guy nobody dey compete with S.A maybe all those small nations but definitely not nigeria
Black SA did alot for themselves brother, don't belittle their achievements. Most didn't have electricity or running water during apartheid. When will Nigeria even have that?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:48pm On Apr 23, 2017
fanficgirl:


This na joke o, but what is the possibility South can annex North and kick Northerners back to Chad grin
loooooll I dey tell u , but na war go break out for naija
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:49pm On Apr 23, 2017
LeSudAfricaine:
yes I am,...but I can simply log in and out at will. Can your countrymen in SA simply log in and out from my country?lol
They could go to Botswana grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:49pm On Apr 23, 2017
LeSudAfricaine:
yes the likes of Chad and Niger etc
d whole word knows bro, weda u like it or not. OK u want d destiny of Africa to be in d hands of S.A that is still in slavery looooooolll
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:50pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
looooolll who is competing with south Africa guy if u like white people shud build heaven in south Africa, u guys will still be Nigeria's kid brother its a well known fact that Nigeria is bigger than all African nations, so I don't know who u think is competing with u looooooolll. black mumus will be bragging abt white peoples achievement looooolll.

guy and I don't know how many times they will tell u that NIGERIA IS ALMOST 200 MILLION!!!!!! there will surely be poverty just like Brazil ,China , india (our real competitors)

so guy nobody dey compete with S.A maybe all those small nations but definitely not nigeria
you guys compare yourselves to South Africa every time, it's a fact! Lol, why are we even talking about South Africa in a thread about Kenya? Yes you are big in population and mouth only. Your so called "competitors "India, Brazil and China are sadly with us at BRICS go figure!lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 2:50pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
loooooll I dey tell u , but na war go break out for naija
True my brother, and they are in charge of the military. It will be a bloodbath for us.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:53pm On Apr 23, 2017
obaaderemi:
Your post shows you don't understand Nigeria's problem.The north of Nigeria is like somalia which will always reject any help or program to help it grow due to religious and traditional pride.Now,one of the greatest injustice the British did in Africa was to amalgamate these northerners with the southerners who have little in common with them.It didn't end there,the british handed over political power in Nigeria with the violent north and had helped them maintain it since them.That's what nowenuse meant.It's like kenya being yoked with somalia.It's an uneven yoke holding the country back.

I think you Southernerns have a large part of the blame to take!

Why did your fathers never question or pressured the British on your independence from the north?
Go and study the history of Indian independence and partitionning and see how Pakistani founding fathers did all they could to make sure Britain never granted independence to a united India. They made it clear to the British that they (the muslims) can never live in a united India with Hindu majority and the british accepted and divided India before independence.

See the way you yorubas and Igbos are embarassing yourselves today and always opposing each other, instead of you guys to work for a united south in order to place the North where they belong.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LeSudAfricaine: 2:53pm On Apr 23, 2017
uzzyfire:
d whole word knows bro, weda u like it or not. OK u want d destiny of Africa to be in d hands of S.A that is still in slavery looooooolll
Like I said you can throw words like "slavery" at every opportunity to make yourself sleep at night, the fact remains , you won't see me with a container in scorching heat waiting for fuel in an oil rich country.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Olu317(m): 2:58pm On Apr 23, 2017
fanficgirl:

Nigerians and their Shakara. There is a difference between the potential to be the greatest and actually being the greatest. Nigeria is a shithole as it is now, but with massive potential to not be a shithole. Does that help?
It has nothing to do with shakara(egocentrism)as you emphasised. I just detest it when the Kenyan lady , or wherever she dropped, was trying to play rhetoric with the English's statement, credited to @naijalander, and she was fuming as if she is an ENGLISH'S LINGUISTIC PROFESSOR. I hope you understand my view on this. A shithole you call Nigeria?What about South Africa? Zimbabwe? Congo? Rwanda? Ethiopia?Kenya?Somalia?Libya?etc ,C'mon, be truthful to yourself about how you feel about the way you see Nigerians. To be honest, African is a DUNG as it stand .But hope and hard work is the key to bringing on the development to each group making up the African continent. And Nigerians have always led in the past and still leading today. Nigerians have got style that get everyone got stuck to her current citizens wherever, they are FOUND.

Fact don't lie




Bon dimanche


Cheers
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 3:01pm On Apr 23, 2017
[quote author=MtuMsuper post=55839662]
Does nigeria have a constitution? If so, what is its purpose?[/quo

The Constitution states some laws which are binding on all of Nigeria and also provides for areas where the states can make their individual laws. For instance, the Nigerian Constitution provides for the terms of office of all Nigerian elected officials whether north or south which is uniformly four years. It is binding on all states. The same constitution in another vein gives the individual states the power to legislate on the rights of the child and in doing this the states take cognisance of their individual cultures for instance the north will factor in Sharia law while enacting laws defining the rights of the child in its territory.
So we indeed have a constitution which is federal in nature a complex. You might not understand sha since ur country is a unitary state and you are not a lawyer.

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