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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:43pm On Nov 11, 2019
vaxx2:
Don't let one or two achievement of your goverment in that sector fool you? There is equally such development in Ghana. per good road quality, Tz don't even have it better than Mali ( A war zone in west africa ) kenya had done well in this regards, you cant compare Ghana social quality system to your country. the kind of similar houses live by Ghanaian in Ghana are mostly occupied by forienger in TZ. better houses and bigger recreation fercility are all over Ghana ( Accra to be precise , so I don't get your false comparism) here. Ghana airport is one of the best four in africa and the leading in west africa , our harbour system is better efficient than many nation in africa as well. Gh put its money where it is needed .

cosmetic development isn't anything to be proud of , it is just purposely for prestige. what make a nation quality in development is the kind of human intellect and well being of the citizens. how many Tz citizens can afford to go study abroad ? how many of Tz citizens has millions of dollar worth investment? how many of TZ citizens even have estate on rentage abroad. what is collective income of the amount of cash remitted back to TZ form TZ citizens working abroad? Development are judged by the living standard of the populace not on cosmetic project

It is common to see western country requesting for Ghana manpower . this is reflection of quality. Germany of recent request for Ghana nurses and likewise many Caribbean nation. Ghana will be supplying Sierra Leone and Liberia some individual to propel their education sector .....


What is the essence of having flashy building without quality citizens. such is even the case of south Africa. and to correct you, bigger country has better chance of urbanizing than smaller nation. Ghana isn't small anyway, it is around 30 million and that is a half of the Tz. despite Nigeria population it is more urbanized than Ghana and TZ Combine .
why does Tanzania even want to compare itself

Living in an apartment is not what development is oo

Tanzanians apparently love to live in apartments
Ghanaians prefer single owned homes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:02pm On Nov 11, 2019
Kazikazi:
You get emotional.
Developments should be felt.Developments should' be seen.What is the use of having a better hdi while the people can't afford decent homes? You can't separate high standard of living with better real estate.Since the beginning of the world, people with higher income tends to live in better houses.People with money want better offices. Why can't Ghana with high income not have better homes and city offices than Dar es salaam? Where is that income going? Or why cant they have a superb mass transportation in railway,seas,air and roads? Or why don't they have good recreation facilities since the big middle class always demand such stuff?

Small nations usually urbanises faster than big ones
Ghanaians live in more better homes than Tanzanians

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:10pm On Nov 11, 2019
vaxx2:
Don't let one or two achievement of your goverment in that sector fool you? There is equally such development in Ghana. per good road quality, Tz don't even have it better than Mali ( A war zone in west africa ) kenya had done well in this regards, you cant compare Ghana social quality system to your country. the kind of similar houses live by Ghanaian in Ghana are mostly occupied by forienger in TZ. better houses and bigger recreation fercility are all over Ghana ( Accra to be precise , so I don't get your false comparism) here. Ghana airport is one of the best four in africa and the leading in west africa , our harbour system is better efficient than many nation in africa as well. Gh put its money where it is needed .

cosmetic development isn't anything to be proud of , it is just purposely for prestige. what make a nation quality in development is the kind of human intellect and well being of the citizens. how many Tz citizens can afford to go study abroad ? how many of Tz citizens has millions of dollar worth investment? how many of TZ citizens even have estate on rentage abroad. what is collective income of the amount of cash remitted back to TZ form TZ citizens working abroad? Development are judged by the living standard of the populace not on cosmetic project

It is common to see western country requesting for Ghana manpower . this is reflection of quality. Germany of recent request for Ghana nurses and likewise many Caribbean nation. Ghana will be supplying Sierra Leone and Liberia some individual to propel their education sector .....


What is the essence of having flashy building without quality citizens. such is even the case of south Africa. and to correct you, bigger country has better chance of urbanizing than smaller nation. Ghana isn't small anyway, it is around 30 million and that is a half of the Tz. despite Nigeria population it is more urbanized than Ghana and TZ Combine .


kazikazi is confused
for example
nairobi is more modern than accra
but ghana beats kenya in hdi which is the most important thing
not malls or skyscrapers

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:16pm On Nov 11, 2019
This is too much for the Tanzanian - man from a communist state - that together with Nigeria and DRC - are dragging down Africa in every index imaginable. You know TZ gov because it tries to compete with Kenya - ordered the building of skyscrappers few years ago (now they have ordered for Boeing Dream-liners smiley - and now the gov built skyscrapers are half-empty while the dreamliners fly with six customers typically - and there is office glut in Dar Slums - because of small private sector.

Get out of the gov sky-scrappers built by their gov last decade - and Dar is a sea of slums.

You know the country is about size of Nigeria - and outside Dar there is nothing. Their capital city Dodoma is a market center.

Go to Tanzania rural place - you'll see a sea of poverty - poor peasant who don't even own the land - leasing gov land to grow maize and beans. Try their failed education system - despite English being taught for 12yrs - they cannot speak it.

Ghana is a very progressive nation that is nearly becoming a proper middle class.

vaxx2:
Don't let one or two achievement of your goverment in that sector fool you? There is equally such development in Ghana. per good road quality, Tz don't even have it better than Mali ( A war zone in west africa ) kenya had done well in this regards, you cant compare Ghana social quality system to your country. the kind of similar houses live by Ghanaian in Ghana are mostly occupied by forienger in TZ. better houses and bigger recreation fercility are all over Ghana ( Accra to be precise , so I don't get your false comparism) here. Ghana airport is one of the best four in africa and the leading in west africa , our harbour system is better efficient than many nation in africa as well. Gh put its money where it is needed .

cosmetic development isn't anything to be proud of , it is just purposely for prestige. what make a nation quality in development is the kind of human intellect and well being of the citizens. how many Tz citizens can afford to go study abroad ? how many of Tz citizens has millions of dollar worth investment? how many of TZ citizens even have estate on rentage abroad. what is collective income of the amount of cash remitted back to TZ form TZ citizens working abroad? Development are judged by the living standard of the populace not on cosmetic project

It is common to see western country requesting for Ghana manpower . this is reflection of quality. Germany of recent request for Ghana nurses and likewise many Caribbean nation. Ghana will be supplying Sierra Leone and Liberia some individual to propel their education sector .....


What is the essence of having flashy building without quality citizens. such is even the case of south Africa. and to correct you, bigger country has better chance of urbanizing than smaller nation. Ghana isn't small anyway, it is around 30 million and that is a half of the Tz. despite Nigeria population it is more urbanized than Ghana and TZ Combine .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:19pm On Nov 11, 2019
tylann:


kazikazi is confused
for example
nairobi is more modern than accra
but ghana beats kenya in hdi which is the most important thing
not malls or skyscrapers
THE greatest Asset of any nation is her people not the cosmetic project.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:31pm On Nov 11, 2019
rvp2018:
This is too much for the Tanzanian - man from a communist state - that together with Nigeria and DRC - are dragging down Africa in every index imaginable. You know TZ gov because it tries to compete with Kenya - ordered the building of skyscrappers few years ago (now they have ordered for Boeing Dream-liners smiley - and now the gov built skyscrapers are half-empty while the dreamliners fly with six customers typically - and there is office glut in Dar Slums - because of small private sector.

Get out of the gov sky-scrappers built by their gov last decade - and Dar is a sea of slums.

You know the country is about size of Nigeria - and outside Dar there is nothing. Their capital city Dodoma is a market center.

Go to Tanzania rural place - you'll see a sea of poverty - poor peasant who don't even own the land - leasing gov land to grow maize and beans. Try their failed education system - despite English being taught for 12yrs - they cannot speak it.

Ghana is a very progressive nation that is nearly becoming a proper middle class.



tanzania is bigger than nigeria
outside posta and upanga you will feel sorry for tz

dodoma is a joke

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:33pm On Nov 11, 2019
When kenya built SGR - they also rushed to build one - despite the fact that most of their cargo terminate at Dar smiley
tylann:


tanzania is bigger than nigeria
outside posta and upanga you will feel sorry for tz

dodoma is a joke

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:59pm On Nov 11, 2019
rvp2018:
When kenya built SGR - they also rushed to build one - despite the fact that most of their cargo terminate at Dar smiley


they want to compete with kenya in everything

they think they are better than kenya but facts are stubborn
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:31pm On Nov 11, 2019
Mombasa expansion - Berth 21 - completed in 2017 and now fully operational - Berth 22 under constructions - and port is starting to rival kind of South Africa's Durban for efficiency.We also have Dry Port in Nairobi and new one in Naivasha under construction.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 3:41pm On Nov 11, 2019
Suguta Valley, Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 3:55pm On Nov 11, 2019
Magical Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 4:00pm On Nov 11, 2019
Amazing Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:26pm On Nov 11, 2019
rvp2018:
Mombasa expansion - Berth 21 - completed in 2017 and now fully operational - Berth 22 under constructions - and port is starting to rival kind of South Africa's Durban for efficiency.We also have Dry Port in Nairobi and new one in Naivasha under construction.


mombasa port is always under expansion

we need to increase our exports to fully utilize the sgr
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 4:27pm On Nov 11, 2019
Just30:
China isnt going anywhere oo

It is a phase of restructuring where by you intentionally pop the bubbles in your system whiles you control the damage
explain further please..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 4:28pm On Nov 11, 2019
..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 4:31pm On Nov 11, 2019
Just30:
its a good idea

support your government to remove the subsidize on petroleum products
when you know the Nigerian Govt,you won t support what you typed. They'd literally increase it to the extent an average Nigerian will struggle to buy PMS.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 4:37pm On Nov 11, 2019
samorobo:



This is what I call progress...lol tylann will not like the bolded...

But dude have you seen the oshodi road..fvck that road is fire even though it is still under construction(I passed there on Thursday).....It is literally made of concrete...so think it extends down to Ikeja(even farther than that) and also runs straight to apapa, badagry and some other important locations in Lagos....

Is there any road construction going on in Yaba and surulere(it's been long since I have been to those places)....I want this places to have solid roads, they are like Lagos mainland backbone.
But this is an injustice you know? What about the south east and South South. What are the budget for those two region. They have done nothing to those two region to be honest with you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:52pm On Nov 11, 2019
pacretus:
explain further please..
i mean

America is full of shit and propaganda
And the massive growth in China isnt going down anytime soon.

America is scared and is trying to do everything it can to bring China in containment but will not succeed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 4:55pm On Nov 11, 2019
tylann:


kazikazi is confused
for example
nairobi is more modern than accra
but ghana beats kenya in hdi which is the most important thing
not malls or skyscrapers
Nairobi appears more modern than Accra should be the right phrase. And not " Nairobi is more modern". I guess kibersns think skyscrapers means modern.Sorry to burst your bubble it doesn't.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:58pm On Nov 11, 2019
pacretus:
when you know the Nigerian Govt,you won t support what you typed. They'd literally increase it to the extent an average Nigerian will struggle to buy PMS.
Nigerians have to come to the point where they'll realise that good governance is not cheap

Freeing up subsidizes monies that usually goes to the rich in the society, will make more money available for development.

Creating monopolies for people to enrich themselves at the expense of the general populace is not sustainable.

PMS is not cheap, Nigerians need to pay up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 4:58pm On Nov 11, 2019
vaxx2:
""look developed"" what should that supposed to mean? development isn't about flashy building and decoration. if so Dubai in UAE will be more developed than London as it currently hold more flashy houses than the later. development is pertaining to human and it's social progress...... what has TZ done to the people of Tanzanian? what progress has TZ make in eradicating poverty, illiteracy and housing deficit which are the key pillar of a developed nation. what about infrastructure? i mean electricity connection to constant electricity , water supply to the majority of the populace and likewise motorable roads for efficient links between the rural and the urban .

what percentage of Tz is urbanized? Ghana is more urbanized than kenya and Ethiopia as big they maybe than Ghana. and when it comes to flashy, I actually don't agree Darussalam has it better than Accra....
Vaxx can you please post the infrastructure of Accra let's see please. Thanks?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:59pm On Nov 11, 2019
the capital

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:02pm On Nov 11, 2019
samorobo:



Yes we can't compare..30 children goes missing in Kenya daily alongside foreigners and tourists...you hardly hear that tourist and foreigners are missing in NIGERIA..
In Nigeria, we treat foreingners like egg grin that's Nigeria for you cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 5:03pm On Nov 11, 2019
Just30:
i mean

America is full of shit and propaganda
And the massive growth in China isnt going down anytime soon.

America is scared and is trying to do everything it can to bring China in containment but will not succeed.
ok. One thing to note, in the 70s-90s the Japanese were the wonder kids of the world, they almost matched the US in every thing. One would think by now they'd be ahead but whatever happened, they lost track and fell off. China I think still lacks quality development. But they are doing great in managing their population, the question is, how long can she stand.? USSR tried But failed ( system failure) the Japanese tried but failed too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:05pm On Nov 11, 2019
rvp2018:
Road Infrastructure...

1) Nigeria road infrastructure. I checked their FERMA - Federal Road Agency - budget and I nearly 'cried'.

Of Nigeria’s 195,000 kilometres of roads, says the Infrastructure Concession Regulatory Commission, 135,000 km are un-tarred; 32,000 km of the total are federal roads; 31,000km are owned by the state governments and the rest by the local governments. The World Bank says only about 30,000 km of all roads in Nigeria are actually paved.

2) South Africa
South Africa, our continental rival, has 750,014 km of roads, the 10th largest globally, with 158,124 km paved.

3) Kenya

She has about 20,000 kms of road paved.Road transport is the predominant mode of transport and carries about 93% of all cargo and passenger traffic in the country. Kenya's road network has been established to be 160,886 km long. About 61,936 km of these roads are classified while the remaining 98,950 km are not classified.

Note: Only 1/3 of kenya is densely populated - with 2/3 semi-arid wasteland or forests or animal reserves.
This one is just wailing and crying since like a jobless scallywag. grin they said post pictures. Pictures will do the challenge grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:06pm On Nov 11, 2019
POKUASI2:
here this one that type like a toddler doing sketching go again.. dear sh!t face, I'll dignify you with a reply when you learn to type.. stupid Ghanaian toad whose poor, teenage mother could not teach ABC since she couldn't afford to pay for his education
That dude is useless and hopeless. Just free that animal
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:08pm On Nov 11, 2019
tylann:


hahaha

can we compare foreigners kidnapped in kenya vs nigeria smiley
Yes let's compare grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 5:08pm On Nov 11, 2019
rvp2018:
This is too much for the Tanzanian - man from a communist state - that together with Nigeria and DRC - are dragging down Africa in every index imaginable. You know TZ gov because it tries to compete with Kenya - ordered the building of skyscrappers few years ago (now they have ordered for Boeing Dream-liners smiley - and now the gov built skyscrapers are half-empty while the dreamliners fly with six customers typically - and there is office glut in Dar Slums - because of small private sector.

Get out of the gov sky-scrappers built by their gov last decade - and Dar is a sea of slums.

You know the country is about size of Nigeria - and outside Dar there is nothing. Their capital city Dodoma is a market center.

Go to Tanzania rural place - you'll see a sea of poverty - poor peasant who don't even own the land - leasing gov land to grow maize and beans. Try their failed education system - despite English being taught for 12yrs - they cannot speak it.

Ghana is a very progressive nation that is nearly becoming a proper middle class.

currently one of the worlds biggest programmer, Twitter CEO is in Lagos dancing gbe body and zanku, eating our local food, employing our young developers. He knows where the great African minds are, and decided to pay them a visit.

Don't worry when he is done, he'll bring the left overs to Kenya, so you can scratch the left overs and feed on them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kereman1: 5:13pm On Nov 11, 2019
Just30:
Nigerians have to come to the point where they'll realise that good governance is not cheap

Freeing up subsidizes monies that usually goes to the rich in the society, will make more money available for development.

Creating monopolies for people to enrich themselves at the expense of the general populace is not sustainable.

PMS is not cheap, Nigerians need to pay up.

Renegade stop discussing Nigeria or are u still having hangover over the border closure.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:21pm On Nov 11, 2019
tylann:


tanzania is bigger than nigeria
outside posta and upanga you will feel sorry for tz

dodoma is a joke
Are you high on codeine. How is Tanzania bigger than Nigeria. cheesy ogbeni no one is bigger than anyone. Go check the landmass grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:21pm On Nov 11, 2019
pacretus:
ok. One thing to note, in the 70s-90s the Japanese were the wonder kids of the world, they almost matched the US in every thing. One would think by now they'd be ahead but whatever happened, they lost track and fell off. China I think still lacks quality development. But they are doing great in managing their population, the question is, how long can she stand.? USSR tried But failed ( system failure) the Japanese tried but failed too.
the Chinese have already overtaken the US economically

Now the Chinese have established the world's greatest consumer market where everyone wants to have access.
The Americans have already gone into a panic because of the level of success.

Japan fell because of the success of China and they didn't have the market to support their growth so when the financial crisis of 2008 hit the world, the challenges it brought led to deflation in Japan.

But the Japanese fall is not as compare to what the US is facing now
The Americans are in a debt burden similar to what Rome fell into that led to a total social breakdown.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:21pm On Nov 11, 2019
kereman1:


Renegade stop discussing Nigeria or are u still having hangover over the border closure.
you are demented

aint got your time

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