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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Roan77: 6:29pm On Jan 31, 2021
I love this city Abuja.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 6:57pm On Jan 31, 2021
rvp20182:
Build more road using a budget smaller than Kenya - you got jokes.
Nigeria revised budget was 24B dollars or less - against Kenya's 32B.


Yet U saw 68817 display of roads underconstruction which appears to be more than what U will building and the next three your decades.not that baby steps of nairobi expressway of mere 18km and U will have to screaming such mediocrity for the next 2 years. Not to forget Ur roads budget are always over inflated so building roads is always a rarity.blame than on Kenyatta maybe.

Go Make Ur research.our roads this days and other infastructures are not only built by our budget but also our team private sector,SUKUK BOND and so many others.
And no nigga our budget is more than its. U can quit the lie now U fraud.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:58pm On Jan 31, 2021
jln115:


"Cleanshelf Supermarket - Kiambu (East) Town
Twiga Mart Supermarket - Kiambu (East) Town
Smart Home Supermarket - Kiambu (East) Town"

Oooh! So it's 3 out of 60! grin


There we are at 57... But there are few others not on the list remember?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 6:59pm On Jan 31, 2021
rvp20182:
Joburg - v- Nairobi - pretty close.
Population is pretty close Nairobi should be about 4.5M versu Joburg 5M.
Looking even at malls - 42 malls versus Nairobi probably around 35 now.
I am not sure about hotels - 3,4,5 star rated hotel in Nairobi - about 40-50.
JKIA is now 4th busiest airport in Africa (maybe 10-12M passengers before covid) after Joburg (20M), Cairo and Bole (Ethiopia).

SA has over 2000 Al's. There is no way joburg with be rolling over paltry 42 malls.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 7:02pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shma2020:


Oooh! So it's 3 out of 60! grin


There we are at 57... But there are few others not on the list remember?





When U do some further digging U will find out U are down to just 32 grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jan 31, 2021
Roan77:
I love this city Abuja.

The streets on the first pic are on another level smiley.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 7:06pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shaytun:


grin grin

You’re not aiming for anything dunce.

Your real estate sector value is less than that of Tanzania.

All the infractural development going on in your country is not up to $3b...your debt is 67% of your GDP ...you have less than $26b budget for 2021,
Lmao his he that slow. Kenyans talking of infastructure yet their biggest investment In infastructure is that paltry indebted she running from nairobi to Mombasa.

Nigeria just repaid Eurobond of 6.75% with both interest and principal that matured on the 28.

Your country can only dream of that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shma2020:


Oooh! So it's 3 out of 60! grin


There we are at 57... But there are few others not on the list remember?



You said you posted none wink

Also the vast majority of them are just shopping centres not malls wink...............If I included all the shopping centres in Joburg there would literally be hundreds
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 7:19pm On Jan 31, 2021
IGpro1:
when you remove South Africa and Nigeria India might have an edge over other African countries combined.
Even including them doesn't impart any edge in any sector. Once again, "we are great" just in statements without statistics or attributes doesn't change it. South Africa's larger wealth is in hands of foreign settlers and it lags far behind India in terms of inequality adjusted HDI and indicators?

And Nigeria? It isn't something even by African standards.
IGpro1:
But you see, India is a big slum..
Percentage of population living in slums:
China: 25.1%
India: 24%
Brazil: 22.3%

South Africa: 23%
Ghana: 38%
Kenya: 56%
Nigeria: 50.2%
Uganda: 53%
Rwanda: 53%


Besides few exceptions like South Africa which are at best comparable with India, this figure goes over 50% mostwhere in Africa and even 70-80% and over 90% in some countries.
"India is a big slum" is a belief encrypted in "another group of countries" sitting thousands of kilometers away in northern part and are richest in world. Repeating their lines doesn't make you one of them. Selected shots of slums are outnumbered by tonnes of cities which get built every year.
IGpro1:
India should be ahead of China and Africa, by virtue of your relationship with world powers.
Which relationship and how?
IGpro1:
Sadly you can hardly differentiate between an African country and India.
West African Sub region alone can stand India.
In which sector?
IGpro1:
Just don't come here and spread your propaganda. India = Pakistan = Africa. India civilization is more than a thousand years, yet South African cities are heaven to India.
I have been to Nigeria and South Africa. "South African" cities are best is a vague statement limited in Africa only. New Mumbai, Surat, Chandigarh, Dholera, GIFT Gujarat, New Amaravati, there are plenty of cities in service and in construction in India.

Over it, these aren't inherited infrastructure. They were built and after independence and will continue to be built even more.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:19pm On Jan 31, 2021
kikuyu1:


Hahaha! Shaytun, YOU'RE not exchanging lies and BS with fellow JAMB escapees!
Nope old man, we certainly didn’t borrrow locally to repay the Eurobond...rvp is probably confusing Kenya with Nigeria angry

“Treasury Cabinet Secretary Ukur Yatani had in December 2020 told Parliament that Kenya expects to return to the Eurobond market in 2024 to refinance Ksh130 billion maturing bonds it borrowed in 2014.”

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jan 31, 2021
Vlain:


SA has over 2000 Al's. There is no way joburg with be rolling over paltry 42 malls.
that's 42 "enclosed" malls.......that doesn't include shopping centres of which there are 100s in Joburg.............

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:22pm On Jan 31, 2021
Abuja

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jan 31, 2021
Goel:

Even including them doesn't impart any edge in any sector. Once again, "we are great" just in statements without statistics or attributes doesn't change it. South Africa's larger wealth is in hands of foreign settlers and it lags far behind India in terms of inequality adjusted HDI and indicators?

And Nigeria? It isn't something even by African standards.

Percentage of population living in slums:
China: 25.1%
India: 24%
Brazil: 22.3%

South Africa: 23%
Ghana: 38%
Kenya: 56%
Nigeria: 50.2%
Uganda: 53%
Rwanda: 53%


Besides few exceptions like South Africa which are at best comparable with India, this figure goes over 50% mostwhere in Africa and even 70-80% and over 90% in some countries.
"India is a big slum" is a belief encrypted in "another group of countries" sitting thousands of kilometers away in northern part and are richest in world. Repeating their lines doesn't make you one of them. Selected shots of slums are outnumbered by tonnes of cities which get built every year.

Which relationship and how?

In which sector?

I have been to Nigeria and South Africa. "South African" cities are best is a vague statement limited in Africa only. New Mumbai, Surat, Chandigarh, Dholera, GIFT Gujarat, New Amaravati, there are plenty of cities in service and in construction in India.

Over it, these aren't inherited infrastructure. They were built and after independence and will continue to be built even more.
Who are the foreign settlers?.........secondly GDP per capita, Wealth per Capita, QOL, HDI, Infrastructure ect ect South Africa destroys India...........Also according to the WB 35% of India's population live in slums....not 24%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:26pm On Jan 31, 2021
mtisTheQubit:

Yes an ths is what i got from the link cheesy grin

You still don’t get it do you??

We generate, transmit and distribute more electricity than you...that’s the crux of my debate with rvp2018, having more access to electricity doesn’t negate that.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:27pm On Jan 31, 2021
Vlain:


SA has over 2000 Al's. There is no way joburg with be rolling over paltry 42 malls.

How many malls do you have in Lagos? tongue lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jan 31, 2021
jln115:
You said you posted none wink

Also the vast majority of them are just shopping centres not malls wink...............If I included all the shopping centres in Joburg there would literally be hundreds
I didn't post any shopping center brother. It's only that you're in disbelief.. :

There are nearly 15 legit shopping centers in karen alone that I haven't seen on the list. Lang'ata alone has countless of them..... Those are my region of operation.

And FYI, that list is outdated. currently, Nairobi should be having 70malls if I'm not wrong.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:27pm On Jan 31, 2021
Vlain:


SA has over 2000 Al's. There is no way joburg with be rolling over paltry 42 malls.

Are you still taking him serious??

Rvp2018 lives in an alternate universe.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:29pm On Jan 31, 2021
jln115:
Nope!! even your article says nothing about Tanzania increasing their electrification rate to 100%!!!..........that would also be impossible since the electrification rate in Tanzania is 35% according to the WB.
Tanzania has about 12,000+ villages. The government have so far electrified 10,000+ villages,the rest will be electrified for these 6 months up to June.So in June,we will be almost 100%

Forget about 35%.That is a bullshit which have been said for decades

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:30pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shaytun:


You still don’t get it do you??

We generate, transmit and distribute more electricity than you...that’s the crux of my debate with rvp2018, having more access to electricity doesn’t negate that.

Actually it does unless you are just pissing in the rain and wasting everyone's time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:32pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shma2020:
I didn't post any shopping center brother, It's only that you're in disbelief.. :

There are nearly 15 legit shopping centers in karen alone that I haven't seen on the list. Lang'ata alone has countless of them..... Those are my region of operation.

And FYI, that list is outdated. currently, Nairobi should be having 70malls if I'm not wrong.
And South Africa has 2000 malls and 23 million square meter of retail space 8th in the World vs 1 Million square meters for Kenya..........Joburg is the retail mecca in South Africa......I'm sure if we use your broad definition of a Mall then you can see Joburg would have several hundred "malls"
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:32pm On Jan 31, 2021
Kazikazi:
Tanzania has about 12,000+ villages. The government have so far electrified 10,000+ villages,the rest will be electrified for these 6 months up to June.So in June,we will be almost 100%

Forget about 35%.That is a bullshit which have been said for decades

Every reputable source says 35% or around there. Your government can fool maybe Tanzanians but that's about it!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:33pm On Jan 31, 2021
Kazikazi:
Tanzania has about 12,000+ villages. The government have so far electrified 10,000+ villages,the rest will be electrified for these 6 months up to June.So in June,we will be almost 100%

Forget about 35%.That is a bullshit which have been said for decades
1. its the world bank, Not a random Tanzanian on NL wink 2) the fgure is from 2018....not decades ago cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:33pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shaytun:


Are you still taking him serious??

Rvp2018 lives in an alternate universe.

How many malls are in Lagos and Abuja? tongue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Roan77: 7:34pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shma2020:
The streets on the first pic are on another level smiley.

Yeah Abuja has one of the best roads in the continent.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:34pm On Jan 31, 2021
gallivant:


Actually it does unless you are just pissing in the rain and wasting everyone's time.
Actually it doesn't since you don't believe in per capita statistics.....only total amount statistics .....Remember??

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:36pm On Jan 31, 2021
gallivant:


Actually it does unless you are just pissing in the rain and wasting everyone's time.

Nope It doesn’t.

15,000Mw installed capacity >> 2,945Mw

7,500 transmission capacity >> 1,800 MW

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Roan77: 7:37pm On Jan 31, 2021
Abuja.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jan 31, 2021
jln115:
And South Africa has 2000 malls and 23 million square meter of retail space 8th in the World vs 1 Million square meters for Kenya..........Joburg is the retail mecca in South Africa......I'm sure if we use your
broad definition of a Mall then you can see Joburg would have several hundred "malls"

I stepped in while you guys were debating Nairobi vs jorburg malls (or is there any other definition of a mall?) .

You didn't believe what rvp told you so I had to spoon feed you by copy pasting wiki source. Now here you are after realizing Nairobi has caught up with jorburg in terms of malls shifting goal posts left right center.. grin.

Everyone knows SA has more malls than Kenya, we come second in africa.

But for Nai and jorburg, I think we're nearly there if we haven't catch up . cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 7:46pm On Jan 31, 2021
Just30:
India cant even reach Pakistan let alone reaching every corner of Africa.

Abeg shun cheesy grin
India occupied Pakistan's larger part twice and scored even a complete submissive surrender letter from Pakistan in 1971.
Trolling apart, by reaching, I strictly mean reaching. Indian naval ships and aircrafts have that range. Missiles cover up to Atlantic ocean and can even hit anywhere in entire Europe. Same capability doesn't lie with anyone in Africa.
Justnotyou:
Being AU & Arab isn't something unique to Egypt I don't know why you feel they'd be less African by that association. Pic 1.
You know what I'm trying to say but ignoring deliberately. Africa is the land of blacks. Foreign settlers like Arabs, Indians or Europeans who came to Africa brought their wealth and knowledge from their origin. Their settlements are no way comparable to a normal African country.
Justnotyou:
That’s not why. Africa is a continent that until recently 2021 didn't have open borders to facilitate such production unlike China or India.
Again vague man. Production requires consumption which wasn't ever an issue with African population. Africa's problem was lack of skill development and integration. China and India were integrated as single countries to work for themselves, Africa was broken into small countries with issues with each other.
Justnotyou:
Imagine if India or any country had 55 Pakistani-Bangladeshi like countries within itself that had to pay taxes & have good diplomatic relations to get anything they didn't have or want, I'm assuming you're level headed enough to understand why such a scenario will be more of a disadvantage.
I am afraid that you are unaware of history saying that hardships of your countries were any more than those in South Asia. We didn't have anything and never got benefits of friendship as had hostile relations with big powers initially. This led to attempts to localise, although of poor quality but localised production and relations with west became normal after 80s.
Justnotyou:
Even then you've been picky on production, Africa excels in raw material production say cobalt, uranium, copper, oil, gold... So Africas total output by item should be >>> Indias.
That's what I'm critique of, stop losing the essence of argument. Africa's natural resources are far larger than India who had nothing to start with, yet has an overwhelming industrial advantage because of processing.

India doesn't have much petroleum but is world's largest producer of petroleum products. Same goes with other things and Chinese list is even longer.
Justnotyou:

Africa has the resources by far say longer coastline, raw materials so there are very few strategies that will help you there. Your best chance will be to end the war early like the Israeli did in their 6 day war, if it even stretched out to a year you'd have no raw materials to stall the fight to your advantage aside your uranium reserves, what else do you have to maintain a war, which nation do you think will choose to trade with India for you to maintain this war over cobalt, oil or anything they're leaching away from Africa rn.
Strategically speaking, India doesn't have to depend solely upon Africa (and doesn't even now either) for raw materials. Australia, Brazil, Russia, China etc. are there.

Issue was if Africa was China.
China has one of largest ores or Iron and enormous capacity to make steel. That's why even US can't dare to touch their shores. Same case doesn't lie with Afriacns who can't utilise what they have naturally.
Justnotyou:
Post the current or 2020 nominal gdp figures of Africa Vs India from an authentic source.
MER (nominal) total for 2019 nearly per IMF and world bank:
India: 2.95 trillions
Africa: 2.6 trillions
Stable figures for 2020 will come sometime in mid of 2021.
Justnotyou:
Africa isn't as enterprising as India yet the two are still very much comparable economically. If Africa picked itself up, you'd not feel comfortable to engage Africa with from a western stereotypical stance. Europeans & Americans come from a far better place than Africans that's why their ignorance works, Indians should not attempt to ride on their prejudice since it does not work.
Seems that you don't even bother to read.

India's GDP per capita was a fraction of Africa in past few months decades. Surpassed only around 2014-17 and yet is heading to become double in mid of next decade. Why? Africa's population growth is way higher and India's GDP growth is.

I'm not saying that India is a too great place to live in like Europe and US are, I'm saying that Afriacns calling out India is like pot calling the cattle black. I stand correct there as it is.

Even the current similar economic size of India and Africa is an illusion simply (PPP) and is temporary. This is like comparing Ukraine and Moldavia to Namibia etc.. All have similar per capita GDPs for now but Ukraine is a completely different kind of economy and right now below its "normal position" for some reason. It will eventually go there. India is in transition stage and just surpassing them.

Have a good read to get what I'm trying to say:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Complexity_Index

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:46pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shaytun:


Nope It doesn’t.

15,000Mw installed capacity >> 2,945Mw

7,500 transmission capacity >> 1,800 MW

You want everyone to ignore millions of generators buzzing in Nigerian streets? Stop wasting people's time damn it!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:46pm On Jan 31, 2021
Kazikazi:
Tanzania has about 12,000+ villages. The government have so far electrified 10,000+ villages,the rest will be electrified for these 6 months up to June.So in June,we will be almost 100%

Forget about [b]35%.[/b]That is a bullshit which have been said for decades
35%!!!!! shocked
pwapwapwapwapwa pwapwapwapwapwa pwapwapwapwapwa.. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jan 31, 2021
Roan77:


Yeah Abuja has one of the best roads in the continent.
I see cool

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