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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by joseph1832(m): 12:57pm On Sep 26, 2016
TheSixthSense:
It appeals to all of these and it is true.
How?
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:59pm On Sep 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
No they aren't. Neither are atheists.

So you were wrong ... Right ?
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Ranchhoddas: 1:05pm On Sep 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

So you were wrong ... Right ?
Wrong about what?
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by urahara(m): 1:13pm On Sep 26, 2016
sonofluc1fer:
- Wetin concern black man concern Abraham?
- Why did Jesus die for my sin without my permission? Who send am message?
- Why do I still go to hell if Jesus died for my sin? Why do I have to believe to get benefits? Afterall, he paid without my signature.

Life is not a choice between Atheism and Christianity. Theism, which is the direct opposite of Atheism, has many religious streams : Islam and Christianity are merely the youngest, and their rise in numbers is a consequence of their hunger for conquest.

Atheism and irreligion is only a natural response to a society that is oversaturated with religion - where there are more churches than healthcare centers on many streets, where major highways can be blocked in the name of worshiping the violent Abrahamic Gods of our slavemasters, where Pastors use the Bible to rape the poor and downtrodden.

When church membership in Nigeria begins to drop, know that the country has started taking the first steps to progress.

So Op, before you focus on atheism, fix your Christianity. It's damage on our psyche will take a long time to fix and our society has been worse for it.


K. O . game over . grin cheesy


Why dem ban u naw. Wetin u do
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by urahara(m): 1:20pm On Sep 26, 2016
sonofluc1fer:

Another moinmoin brain on patrol. What a simple life you live. Everyone who isn't Christian is evil. No good person can reject Christ. So beautiful. cheesy grin




Looooooookooooooolz , mo fo o. grin grin
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by urahara(m): 1:26pm On Sep 26, 2016
sonofluc1fer:

cheesy Empty retort.

I'm quite sure like **** Kingebukasblog, you know absolutely nothing about the Continent you live on. You know no African philosophy, or Gods, yet you can comfortably recite Jesus ancestors from David's line.

You have an African body but a foreign mind. Your God resides in Israel, likes Mount Horeb and you fervently wait and hope for a new Jerusalem. Are you African in skin or thought? The Bible you believe in wasn't written by yo, for you or to you. If it were, Romans 2:9 would be Igbo 2:9, 1 Corinthians would be 1 Yoruba...

So who is the alien? ****whose only claim to being African is genetic, whose mind has been so polluted he sees the crucifixion of a mere carpenter in the cross as salvation for his own misdemeanors. The one who proudly professes to be a Gentile, who denies his own history and people so he may suck at the bosom of Abraham?.

****


Thatz it.


.. ******following son of luc1fer immediately***
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:35pm On Sep 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Wrong about what?

About babies being atheists .
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by urahara(m): 1:41pm On Sep 26, 2016
CoolUsername:


Agnostics believe that it isn't possible to know.


The guy doesnt even know what he is saying . hime is just displaying his ignorance shamelessly .
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by ifenes(m): 1:52pm On Sep 26, 2016
sonofluc1fer:
- Wetin concern black man concern Abraham?
- Why did Jesus die for my sin without my permission? Who send am message?
- Why do I still go to hell if Jesus died for my sin? Why do I have to believe to get benefits? Afterall, he paid without my signature.

Life is not a choice between Atheism and Christianity. Theism, which is the direct opposite of Atheism, has many religious streams : Islam and Christianity are merely the youngest, and their rise in numbers is a consequence of their hunger for conquest.

Atheism and irreligion is only a natural response to a society that is oversaturated with religion - where there are more churches than healthcare centers on many streets, where major highways can be blocked in the name of worshiping the violent Abrahamic Gods of our slavemasters, where Pastors use the Bible to rape the poor and downtrodden.

When church membership in Nigeria begins to drop, know that the country has started taking the first steps to progress.

So Op, before you focus on atheism, fix your Christianity. It's damage on our psyche will take a long time to fix and our society has been worse for it.

This went through his ass smoothly!
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by CoolUsername: 2:16pm On Sep 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


No , agnostics say that maybe it's not possible to know - it's tentative .

ag·nos·tic- /aɡˈnästik/ noun 1. a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Ranchhoddas: 2:18pm On Sep 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


About babies being atheists .
No I am not. You have a wrong definition of atheism.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 26, 2016
Christianity is about faith in Jesus Christ. So these are questions to help you guide your reasoning towards the answers you desire.
First, how authentic are jewish historical records and how were they kept:
1. Was Jesus Christ a real person according to historical records or was He just a mere character of jewish mythology?
2. Did He perform the miracles written in the bible and what was so different about Him compared with any other person recorded in history, even during His era?
3. How did He die? Where was He buried? Does it correspond with the account of the Bible?
4. Did He ascend into heaven? If not where are His remains according to historical records, was it ever found considering how great and popular He was even as a man?
There are 400 years between the OT and the NT in the Bible.
5. The gospels were written by 4 different people in different times in history, the very close similarity in the independent accounts of Matthew Mark Luke and John clearly suggests collusion but how was that even not possible?
6. Is Jesus the Messiah according to the OT ie. did He fulfil all the prophecies, including birth and death?
7. How accurate is the Bible, Is it true? How did the 66 books by different authors in entirely distant times in history come together to tell a consistent account of creation (still valid even > two thousand years later, especially when scientific theories barely last a decade at best centuries) the fall of man leading to depravity and his need for a saviour, the plan and execution of salvation, redemption, future events from prophecies, the end and afterlife.
8. Are the afterlife accounts of the Bible verifiable? I am yet to watch a video of someone who died and came back to life that remained an atheist, not one person. They all talk about Jesus Christ.
By the time you arrive at the answers to these mysteries, you may turn out to have even more faith than many christians '...Seek and you will find...'
You may read: A Case for Christ - Lee Strobel (Answers most of these questions), Mere Christianity - C.S. Lewis (gives reasons for God, and it is the christian One), and the Gospel according to Jesus Christ - John Macarthur
joseph1832:
How?

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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by UyiIredia(m): 2:35pm On Sep 26, 2016
Kay17:

What if the Truth was that the Universe was purposeless?
Interesting POV.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by UyiIredia(m): 2:38pm On Sep 26, 2016
Kay17:

What if the Truth was that the Universe was purposeless?
Interesting POV.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:53pm On Sep 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
No I am not. You have a wrong definition of atheism.

Atheism is a belief there is no God . What's wrong about the definition ?

Atheists redefined atheism to make it look like atheism is some natural way of life while religion is a pernicious disease that steers man away from logical thinking .

I can provide proof that man is naturally religious and atheism is a disease - a thread coming much later .

Theism is saying there is God , atheism is saying there is no God . Are babies saying there is no God ? NO . Are babies atheists ? NO

Stop being disingenuous bro cheesy
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:01pm On Sep 26, 2016
Ranchhoddas

Like I rightly said , modern atheists redefined atheism . Atheism originally is the belief there is no God .

It's current definition is BS and dishonest in fact .

Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Ranchhoddas: 5:49pm On Sep 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Ranchhoddas

Like I rightly said , modern atheists redefined atheism . Atheism originally is the belief there is no God .

It's current definition is BS and dishonest in fact .
So you have decided to adopt the definition that suits your bias? Nairaland atheists have consistently said it that they 'lack belief' and not 'believe that there is no God' . I believe that everyone should be allowed to define themselves. Don't you?
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by GeneralTee: 9:55pm On Sep 26, 2016
Intelligent Design silences Evolution. Since it was suggested, not one atheists has given a sufficient response.

The only reason there is order in the Universe, in our earth and even our bodies is because there is a God that sustains our breadth. That God is revealed in the Bible.

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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by raphieMontella: 2:53am On Sep 27, 2016
GeneralTee:
Intelligent Design silences Evolution. Since it was suggested, not one atheists has given a sufficient response.

lie for jesus..its normal
intelligent design is not even accepted by the scientifc community as ''Science''....it is termed pseudoscience along with acupunture etc......
And where did you get the lie that intelligent design silenced evolution?
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Kay17: 5:42am On Sep 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Seriously ?

A life with no purpose ? No wonder Atheists achieved so little and have no moral compass since man was created . To them , life is meaningless and there is no reason to achieve , or to love or be good . This mentality was the impetus also that led to the killing of millions of people just to achieve their atheistic aims .

No wonder you guys take so much time criticizing religious people - just to inveigle them into living sad empty life of anger and rancor against a non existent God .

And atheists said The belief in God holds you back !! While the cold hard truth which elude you atheists is that your belief God does not exist is what holds you back from achieving and progressing because to you life is meaningless .

Winner01 , atheism is indeed dangerous . To them , what's the point of doing good , of achieving , of helping the poor etc . Atheists can even kill with no scruples . Imagine a kid with such mentality - having no sense of purpose in life . Humanity is doomed with atheism shocked

What is the purpose of your life? Being rich isn't a purpose you know
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by GeneralTee: 6:19am On Sep 27, 2016
raphieMontella:


lie for jesus..its normal
intelligent design is not even accepted by the scientifc community as ''Science''....it is termed pseudoscience along with acupunture etc......
And where did you get the lie that intelligent design silenced evolution?

And what's your response except for random chaos. If that was the case, you're supposed to have woken up this morning with an arm left on the bed. Or not wake up at all.

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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Kay17: 5:55am On Sep 28, 2016
GeneralTee:


And what's your response except for random chaos. If that was the case, you're supposed to have woken up this morning with an arm left on the bed. Or not wake up at all.

Wouldn't this a diversion from the thread? You ought to give the thread a chance.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by sonofluc1fer: 12:57pm On Sep 30, 2016
urahara:

Why dem ban u naw.
Truth hurts. wink

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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by sonofluc1fer: 12:59pm On Sep 30, 2016
GeneralTee:

The only reason there is order in the Universe, in our earth and even our bodies is because there is a God that sustains our breadth. That God is revealed in the Bible.
You jump to conclusions like a ballet dancer. How do you manage it?

Seun Lalasticlala
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by sonofluc1fer: 9:45am On Feb 04, 2017
Lalasticlala Seun
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by Nobody: 10:00am On Feb 04, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Lalasticlala Seun
Good read. This thread is a classic, and Sonofluc1fer's responses were epic. grin smiley Sirwere did you read this?

Greetings sir.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by plaetton: 11:35am On Feb 04, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
- Wetin concern black man concern Abraham?
- Why did Jesus die for my sin without my permission? Who send am message?
- Why do I still go to hell if Jesus died for my sin? Why do I have to believe to get benefits? Afterall, he paid without my signature.

Life is not a choice between Atheism and Christianity. Theism, which is the direct opposite of Atheism, has many religious streams : Islam and Christianity are merely the youngest, and their rise in numbers is a consequence of their hunger for conquest.

Atheism and irreligion is only a natural response to a society that is oversaturated with religion - where there are more churches than healthcare centers on many streets, where major highways can be blocked in the name of worshiping the violent Abrahamic Gods of our slavemasters, where Pastors use the Bible to rape the poor and downtrodden.

When church membership in Nigeria begins to drop, know that the country has started taking the first steps to progress.

So Op, before you focus on atheism, fix your Christianity. It's damage on our psyche will take a long time to fix and our society has been worse for it.
Superb. wink

These Christians, no matter what shade they come in, never seem to get it.
The op talks about atheists embracing the Gospels. undecided

Which Gospels ?
Is the op aware that the Gospels are adulterated mishmash of fairy tales, legends and traditions from nearly every nook and corner of the world ?

The OP says that atheists are among the most knowledgeable and sound thinkers, and yet he has the presumption that atheists have not read the Gospels, his Gospels.

There is absolutely nothing intellectual about religion , especially Christianity.

Secondly, the OP is being economical with the truth when he says that the pioneers of science were Christians. It's similar to saying that life began in Africa only after the Europeans arrived on shore.

The European Renaissance, and it's influence on learning and science, had it's roots in conquest and 800yr rule of Spain by the Moors of North Africa.
There, via Spain, Italy and France, learning and civilization seeped into Europe , and eventually heralded the Renaissance.

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Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by HCpaul(m): 9:19pm On Feb 04, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
- Wetin concern black man concern Abraham?
- Why did Jesus die for my sin without my permission? Who send am message?
- Why do I still go to hell if Jesus died for my sin? Why do I have to believe to get benefits? Afterall, he paid without my signature.

Life is not a choice between Atheism and Christianity. Theism, which is the direct opposite of Atheism, has many religious streams : Islam and Christianity are merely the youngest, and their rise in numbers is a consequence of their hunger for conquest.

Atheism and irreligion is only a natural response to a society that is oversaturated with religion - where there are more churches than healthcare centers on many streets, where major highways can be blocked in the name of worshiping the violent Abrahamic Gods of our slavemasters, where Pastors use the Bible to rape the poor and downtrodden.

When church membership in Nigeria begins to drop, know that the country has started taking the first steps to progress.

So Op, before you focus on atheism, fix your Christianity. It's damage on our psyche will take a long time to fix and our society has been worse for it.

Lol
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by lepasharon(f): 11:23pm On Feb 04, 2017
Sonofluc1fer shutting it down
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by sonofluc1fer: 4:38pm On Feb 05, 2017
Mynd44 this thread is worthy of fp.
Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by sonofluc1fer: 4:39pm On Feb 05, 2017
lepasharon:
Sonofluc1fer shutting it down
m'lady.. hw you doing? smiley

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