Hello everyone,i joined nairaland in september and ive been observing for a while....im an atheist and i look forward to making new friends....i would love to have christian friends too but pls dont tell me about ur jesus...im not interested in that jesus stuff...im a nice person and i really have a lot of questions for christians....

mhizesther:
Hello everyone,i joined nairaland in september and ive been observing for a while....im an atheist and i look forward to making new friends....i would love to have christian friends too but pls dont tell me about ur jesus...im not interested in that jesus stuff...im a nice person and i really have a lot of questions for christians....

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You want to make Christian friends yet do not want to be told about Jesus yet you have a lot of Questions for Christians.

smh

Well welcome to the club.

Welcome to NL.

Please tell us more about yourself. Why are you an atheist instead of Christian? What do you think about the religious section?
Do you have challenges in life with your lack of faith?

Lennycool:
Well welcome to the club.

thanks lenny

Well, what can I say? Congratulations, but always know that Jesus loves you and He's ready to take you back whenever you're ready to serve Him.

You're most welcome.
Since when have u become an atheist and what prompted your decision... Would really love to hear.
BTW, I'm also one.

mhizesther:
thanks lenny

Tell us about yourself, when did you become an atheist and how.

EPHATA! Zeklirovaska. chava chava. talikumstovridaska.

Ermm... I just told you to get behind me. (in my native language)

Welcome
(Brace yourself. The Nairaland religion section is not a pretty place. It is not for the faint hearted.)

mhizesther:
Hello everyone,i joined nairaland in september and ive been observing for a while....im an atheist and i look forward to making new friends....i would love to have christian friends too but pls dont tell me about ur jesus...im not interested in that jesus stuff...im a nice person and i really have a lot of questions for christians....

Nigerians are funny . Atheist indeed. Clap for yasef.

LiberaDeus:
Welcome to NL.

Please tell us more about yourself. Why are you an atheist instead of Christian? What do you think about the religious section?
Do you have challenges in life with your lack of faith?

I was brought up in a christian home,my mom is into this christianity stuff but my dad doesnt believe in religion....i 've been to several churches and they all think alike....i have never believed in the bible because its filled with contradictions....for instance christians should do away with jealousy yet they serve a jealous God...im responsible for everything that happens to me...God loved job so much that he allowed the devil to destroy him...how about job's children?they died because ur God wanted to test their father ...Ur God is really funny ....ive always been an atheist and ive never had any cause to regret my decision....Tho i go to church once in a while nd was once a chorister.

mhizesther:
I was brought up in a christian home,my mom is into this christianity stuff but my dad doesnt believe in religion....i 've been to several churches and they all think alike....i have never believed in the bible because its filled with contradictions....for instance christians should do away with jealousy yet they serve a jealous God...im responsible for everything that happens to me...God loved job so much that he allowed the devil to destroy him...how about job's children?they died because ur God wanted to test their father ...Ur God is really funny ....ive always been an atheist and ive never had any cause to regret my decision....Tho i go to church once in a while nd was once a chorister.

What's the particular thing that tipped you over?

Welcome

but OP, you already opened a thread on 25th October 2016 on a topic concerning atheism

https://www.nairaland.com/3427921/atheists-worship-satan

mhizesther:
I was brought up in a christian home,my mom is into this christianity stuff but my dad doesnt believe in religion....i 've been to several churches and they all think alike....i have never believed in the bible because its filled with contradictions....for instance christians should do away with jealousy yet they serve a jealous God...im responsible for everything that happens to me...God loved job so much that he allowed the devil to destroy him...how about job's children?they died because ur God wanted to test their father ...Ur God is really funny ....ive always been an atheist and ive never had any cause to regret my decision....Tho i go to church once in a while nd was once a chorister.

Kingebukasblog do you remember that time i mentioned wolves in sheeps clothing?

Julian08:

What's the particular thing that tipped you over?

well,there was actually a time when i thought Their God was real...my grandma was so sick she was at the point of death .i loved my grandma so much ,when my parents were down financially my grandma did everything for us .we took her to the hospital but it was still the same.....my grandma believed in God and the pastors were like dont worry God has granted ur grandma 15 more years and i was relieved ....on the 31st of december 2015 around 11:15pm i lost my grandma and i told the pastors to ask their God to bring her back since he raised lazarus,the kind woman's son too was brought back to life but as usual they gave me the God gives and takes..They believe in a God who sent the devil to torment them and he let them suffer everyday and they still believe their reward is in heaven...lol

mhizesther:
Hello everyone,i joined nairaland in september and ive been observing for a while....im an atheist and i look forward to making new friends....i would love to have christian friends too but pls dont tell me about ur jesus...im not interested in that jesus stuff...im a nice person and i really have a lot of questions for christians....

Welcome to NL...

hopefulLandlord:
Welcome

but OP, you already opened a thread on 25th October 2016 on a topic concerning atheism

https://www.nairaland.com/3427921/atheists-worship-satan

yes i joined nairaland in september

ammyluv2002:
Well, what can I say? Congratulations, but always know that Jesus loves you and He's ready to take you back whenever you're ready to serve Him.

actually i love myself

mhizesther:
actually i love myself

Who doesn't? We all do

mhizesther:
well,there was actually a time when i thought Their God was real...my grandma was so sick she was at the point of death .i loved my grandma so much ,when my parents were down financially my grandma did everything for us .we took her to the hospital but it was still the same.....my grandma believed in God and the pastors were like dont worry God has granted ur grandma 15 more years and i was relieved ....on the 31st of december 2015 around 11:15pm i lost my grandma and i told the pastors to ask their God to bring her back since he raised lazarus,the kind woman's son too was brought back to life but as usual they gave me the God gives and takes..They believe in a God who sent the devil to torment them and he let them suffer everyday and they still believe their reward is in heaven...lol

Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

mhizesther:
actually i love myself

Well the difference between your position and those of us Christians is that we do not just love ourselves we also love others. This was why the Pastors who prayed for your grandma even cared to do so. Some strangers would have left you to your ordeal but Jesus teaches us to do good and love our neighbours as ourselves.

When you were a Chorister as you pointed out were you never a recipient of the holy spirit and did you never see God turn up in your situations? So your singular grandmas case made you do a uturn yet you never mentioned other events that led up to this decision..just one event.

This clearly shows that God indeed was showing up for you otherwise you would have listed out a lot more than just your grandmas case.

Below was your quote

well,there was actually a time when i thought Their God was real...my grandma was so sick she was at the point of death .i loved my grandma so much ,when my parents were down financially my grandma did everything for us .we took her to the hospital but it was still the same.....my grandma believed in God and the pastors were like dont worry God has granted ur grandma 15 more years and i was relieved ....on the 31st of december 2015 around 11:15pm i lost my grandma and i told the pastors to ask their God to bring her back since he raised lazarus,the kind woman's son too was brought back to life but as usual they gave me the God gives and takes..They believe in a God who sent the devil to torment them and he let them suffer everyday and they still believe their reward is in heaven...lol

So what was it that made you believe God was real when you did?

ammyluv2002:
Who doesn't? We all do

so U're a christian?

LiberaDeus:


Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

well,i was never a christian and will never be a christian....who cares if ur jesus promised u a trouble free life or not...i

mhizesther:
well,there was actually a time when i thought Their God was real...my grandma was so sick she was at the point of death .i loved my grandma so much ,when my parents were down financially my grandma did everything for us .we took her to the hospital but it was still the same.....my grandma believed in God and the pastors were like dont worry God has granted ur grandma 15 more years and i was relieved ....on the 31st of december 2015 around 11:15pm i lost my grandma and i told the pastors to ask their God to bring her back since he raised lazarus,the kind woman's son too was brought back to life but as usual they gave me the God gives and takes..They believe in a God who sent the devil to torment them and he let them suffer everyday and they still believe their reward is in heaven...lol

Sorry about your loss. You know that death can be a somewhat liberating event? It draws the curtain on the absurdity of our existence.
On the believers : you can't really fault them for continuing to believe; It is both a requirement and a proof of their faith- every crisis of faith is an opportunity to exercise more faith...lol

mhizesther:
well,i was never a christian and will never be a christian....who cares if ur jesus promised u a trouble free life or not...i

Why are you contradicting yourself? First you say you were a Christian and attended church and was even a chorister and now you say you were never a Christian and will never be?

I think you have ruled on who you really are with your own mouth.

LiberaDeus:


Nice testimony.
I hope you know what they will say on this thread.
Christians will say the following and they have already started saying it

1. You were never really born again or you were a wolf in sheep's clothing

2. If you were a Christian, you didn't have a real relationship with Christ, you were a legalistic Christian and you focused on your own works, you should have sought the assistance of the spirit.

3. You are a weak Christian, just because you lost your grandma you fell out of the faith. Christians suffered more than that, Jesus was even crucified, god didn't promise you a life free from trouble.

They will say the above and much more but don't worry cause the rebuttals to all these points are available.
Remember to always keep an open mind in all you do. Don't dismiss religious views totally, always think and consider their view points and also the atheistic view points.
Unlike us, Christians grow their faith by avoiding dissenting world views and obfuscation of other religions and view points. But we freethinkers accept all ideas and reason them, we are like an open melting pot if ideas, if the truth can face resistance from different ideas and still remain then that truth is certain.

Religious truth is like a spoilt brat shielded from all the world's challenges that's why when it faces the light of different ideas, they go berserk, they feel surprised that such views exist and they feel unsettled.
But atheistic truth is like a child that has been sent to military school to learn the challenges of life. That child is not unsettled by challenges.

thanks i understand

mhizesther:
so U're a christian?

Yes, my dear. I am a christian

mhizesther:
well,i was never a christian and will never be a christian....who cares if ur jesus promised u a trouble free life or not...i

My Jesus?

I don't know any such person. I used to hear of one that apparently was executed by the Roman governor 2000 years ago and they even said his death was meant to save my great great great grandfather from sin and hell, unfortunately my ancestor didn't meet him, what an incompetent plan from bros J and his father.

Madam read my post well, I ain't a Christian