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Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 6:00pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
I had a discussion with a friend last week about certain gospels that have been ignored by The Catholic Church and other churches in general. Two being The Gospel of Judas & Thomas. Supposedly the gospel of Judas mentions the fact that Jesus actually had a discussion with Judas Iscariot about his betrayal. It was all set up by the two to have Him taken away for His cruxificion etc. What I don't understand is why some people are so vehemently against this book. I mean is it REALLY that bad to believe that such a thing could be true? Obviously Jesus came to Earth for a reason. To die for our sins. So why is it that churches, the Catholic church especially try so hard to hide the fact that Judas was let in on this? I mean His death was already planned out from the time the angel appeared to Mary so I guess one can say I'm confused or perhaps the Church sees it as going against the belief that He was a martyr? I was just sent the Gospel of Thomas so I'll have my questions about that later, |
Re: Denied Gospels? by shahan(f): 6:50pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
I think these have been addressed in measure in some other threads. . . welborn's rejoinders at; (Breaking News! - Judas Did Not Betray Jesus Afterall!) . . . (and this link as well!) . . . (Link for The Gospel of Thomas thread) |
Re: Denied Gospels? by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
This thread can now die a natural death. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 7:01pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
ah ok. I did a search and I didnt find anything. Thanks. Hope there's no reason for the "hostility", babyosisi |
Re: Denied Gospels? by angelz(f): 7:39pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
D bible has alwaz been facin real persecutn frm d devil, wu wil nt rest until he contaminates d truth in d bible wit lies frm evn respected quarters. Or how else do one xplain d origin of various so-calld bible buks rearin dia heads now, e.g, macabees, tobas, judith, thomas n evn judas. Lets all wu wnts 2 b in d lait kips prayin 4 God's directn. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by shahan(f): 8:15pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
ThiefOfHearts: I shouldn't think so. However, perhaps more could be said if people have further concerns - here or in the previous threads. Afterall, knowledge will be shared both ways. Peace |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 9:30pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
@TOH, You forgot to include the Gospel Acording to Dan Brown a.ka. Davinci Code. What about the Gospel according to Muhammad a.k.a the koran . That they both talk about Jesus does not make them divinely inspired . |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 9:39pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
TayoD: Thanks, Captn Obvious. One could say the same about the differences between the Catholic Bible and King James. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 9:52pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
What differences if I may ask, aunty touchy-touchy. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 9:53pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
get both then compare. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 10:09pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
@TOH, Why should I do your research for you darling? You should back up your claims with proof whcih i can either agree or diagree with! |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 10:13pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
because it's kind of a stupid question and I dont know why you are asking me such. What gospel were they claiming in Da Vinci Code again? |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 10:35pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
because it's kind of a stupid question and I don't know why you are asking me such. Stupid question to ask you what the differences you claim exist between the Catholic Bible and the KJV? Are you trying to be funny? The last person I encountered with such logic on nairaland is hnd_holder. You make an accusation and you expect others to prove to you that your accusations are true. What gospel were they claiming in Da Vinci Code again? Don't you understand sarcasm? Of course the DaVinci Code isn't anything Gospel. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 10:43pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
*sighs* you dont get anything and Im not in the mood to deal. According to the Da Vinci madness, Jesus was married right? They claimed that it was written in a certain gospel. I was asking you about that and now you're being a hostile idiot thus Im done with you. I will read the links shahan was sweet enough to supply. anyway Im out. Ciao. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TV01(m): 10:44pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
TayoD, Pick on someone your own size What's going on sir? How are you? I trust all is well with you. Belated seasons greetings. Now whose serve was it? God bless |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 10:52pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
@ToH, It seems we are on different wavelengths entirely! I guess I expected too much from you in the hope that you'll understand some simple sentences. If you are unable to grasp that, then I must be wasting my time expecting you to read in between the lines. Can someone help me interprete the above exchange to ToH? I don't know how much simpler I can make this to be. Footnote: Do you always go on a mad rage each time you are intellectually scrutinised? @TV01, My brother. Nice to hear from you and thanks for the greetings. I believe the season brough much joy to you as it did to me and I wish you the very best in this new year. Welcome back on board. It's being a while. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 11:19pm On Jan 09, 2007 |
TayoD: You are full of yourself and not for any good reason either. Who's the one who went into a "rage" in this thread between the both of us? Please, just go. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by layi(m): 12:53am On Jan 10, 2007 |
ToF easy o!!! |
Re: Denied Gospels? by GL(f): 1:58am On Jan 10, 2007 |
ThiefOfHearts: the difference between the Catholic Bible and King James is the apocrypha, 7 or so extra books in the Catholic Old Testament. There really isnt any doctrinal difference. The Catholic and Protestant New Testaments are the same. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 2:21am On Jan 10, 2007 |
GL: Um, I am aware. Thanks. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by jerrymania(m): 3:23am On Jan 10, 2007 |
@ thiefofhearts We need to understand God's working principle,If you do you'll know how he stopped those esoteric books from entering the bible. Looking back in time, those books were written by gnostic chritians,those who believe salvation only comes by esoteric knowledge and constant mystical spiritual practice not by believing in Jesus and the Resurrection. So you see why "doubting" Thomas book was gnostic in nature. Paul warned the galatians,and corinthians about this gnostic knowledge that was creeping into the church in those days. There are numerous gnostic gospels(not good for your consumption) like Apocalypse of Peter,Gospel of Mary,Visions of Enoch,Book of Eden,The Shepherd e.t.c JUST GET HOLD OF THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD AND DONT LET IT GO!PLEASE!!!!!! Others are not divinely inspired, (most of gnostic knowledge are used today in Rosicruciansm, Eck,Grail,Freemasonry and other Mystical societies,, so be careful), |
Re: Denied Gospels? by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
TOH,why are you always so abrasive? I am yet to see a thread where you're not jumping on someone,calling them all sorts of names. Biko my sister,it's not necessary. In our culture and every culture,this does not speak good of a woman. I know I risk being insulted by saying this but I just had to. You can make your points without the vulgarity. Remember your picture is on your profile,you may scare off potential suitors like superman,lol |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 4:59pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
baby osisi I see now that your only intent is to "protect your boys" so I'm not even going to get into with you anymore. I made a thread HOPING for a true discussion, turns out that it has been discussed before and shahan was cool enough to provide the links, fine. Why are people coming out to bother me with idiotic banter all of a sudden? I find it ever-so irritating that you constantly say that "im being crass, blah blah unladylike"(sorry but I dont owe anyone on the internet anything so keep the whole sexist men can do whatevber they want and woman should be docile for someone that cares for that kind of thinking), God forbid you ever consider the fact WHY I respond in such ways. sometimes im just amusing myself, other times it's because im responding in the way they did me. Ironically you only act like this with your "boys" on this side of the forum which is fine, I'm just going to ignore you when it comes to things like this. I asked you whether there was hostility between us concerning how you replied this thread, which I myself found as being an "abrasive" response and you didnt answer, now that the loons come out of the asylum and start yarning dust for no reason, you now want to respond. Ma da mi la mu. BTW, you're one of many girls who has complained about my pic being in my profile. Is that a problem for the girls here or something. Keep in mind, I joined in Nov, perhaps there's some unwritten law about it or something that I didnt know about? abi wetin? |
Re: Denied Gospels? by TayoD(m): 5:14pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
ToH, I am not surprised by your so called 'abrasiveness' because my first exposure to your posts suggests that you've made up your mind about the so-called "babyosisi boys". Maybe it is this prejudice that makes you feel that one is attacking you when that is not the case. I have reviewed my initial response to your post and I still see no reason why you had to respond the way you did. I owe you? Or wetin I do to make you launch that ballistic missile at me? So ara e o. Anyway, nothing wrong with your pixs. I guess its one of your tools for 'Thiefing hearts' (now that is a joke o, before you start raining abuses again). As the saying goes, "If you've got it, flaunt it". |
Re: Denied Gospels? by gbadex1(m): 5:15pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
@ babyosisi and ToH: "potential suitors like superman"! Roflmao! babyosisi, you go kill me for here o! Rofl. Superman as potential suitor. Now that'd be the day! |
Re: Denied Gospels? by Nobody: 5:22pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
lol @gbade The picture and superman bit was just a joke @TOH. No complaints whatsoever about your picture. You're a beautiful lady by the way. superman is quite a catch,ain't he? |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 5:24pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
You people seem to know more about him than I do. How about you take the chance? |
Re: Denied Gospels? by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
Superman and another guy named orikinla are the most easy going people on nairaland in my opinion. gbade belongs in that easy going crowd also. Their BP readings must be excellent. |
Re: Denied Gospels? by ThiefOfHearts(f): 5:28pm On Jan 10, 2007 |
Orikinla, definitely Superman? Not really. Or maybe I just dont understand Martian. |
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