paddy_lo:


but he went to china,he went to saudi arabia,he went to russia,see the hypocricy
nigeria,kenya and SA has arguably better freedoms and democratic idealS than these countries he happily visited,so why the double standard?

paddy_lo:

he meant size of economy,read my post above

bawomolo:

why should size matter?  Japan is a relatively small country but that hasn't stopped them from developing an economy.  It's pretty Ignorant to make fun of these countries because of their size.

bawomolo:

Not all the debt was paid off by Nigeria as some of it was relieved and yes it did make the news.  

bawomolo:

 Debt relief for african countries has made the news a number of time.  Its funny when Africans whine about media coverage.   Are these media houses lying when they show pictures of zimbabwe, congo and darfur?  

paddy_lo:

U2 should first cris cross america from east st louis to the 9th ward new-orleans,and save them kids there first before thinking of saving africa

a lot of these cats are just tryna get their hustle on,like u say negativity about africa is a constant theme here,its like it makes them feel a little better about them miserable selves
thats a very good point,one thing i have noticed about western media is that they have this band wagon thing going on,they just jump on whatever is the prevailing thought of the day and run with it
thats why obama goes to africa for the first time as president and doesnt go to either south africa or Nigeria the number 1 and 2 economies in africa,but goes to ghana

it would be like going to south east asia and going to visit vietnam,without stepping foot in either china or japan
of course that would be ridiculous,but no one in the press called him out on it

but he went to china,he went to saudi arabia,he went to russia,see the hypocricy
nigeria,kenya and SA has arguably better freedoms and democratic idealS than these countries he happily visited,so why the double standard?
because there is no respect,and no fear either
the day we begin to make the west either fear or respect us or both,then we would have gone far in what we need to do

mama-gee:

Joke of the century/millennium.

china, saudi-arabia and russia are bigger trade partners and deemed bigger priorities than the after mentioned countries.  China is need to address the issue of North Korea and saudi-arabia is a big ally in the middle-east.

bawomolo:

china, saudi-arabia and russia are bigger trade partners and deemed bigger priorities than the after mentioned countries.  China is need to address the issue of North Korea and saudi-arabia is a big ally in the middle-east.

paddy_lo:

i hope u know the US imports more oil from nigeria than saudi arabia,and its the sweet kind they prefer in the refineries here,saudi has heavy crude instead

transformR:



How comes you did not mention it?   I live in the UK and I watch all the American channels and it did not get more than 2 minutes - come on be honest!

Who caused the crisis in Congo? Have you heard of Lumumba?

Why dose Zimbabwe get so much coverage? Because some White farmers got a bloody nose; why did they not give Abachas regime the same treatment?

Darfur is a bad situation - its a war of Arabs trying to wipe out Africans and yes it gets plenty of coverage because its negative and tell me why do they give it so much coverage and NO HELP!!! Why has Obama not mentioned it?

i hope u know the US imports more oil from nigeria than saudi arabia,and its the sweet kind they prefer in the refineries here,saudi has heavy crude instead

nigeria is 4th, while saudi-arabia is 5th. the difference is negligible as kobo pointed out. There are US army bases in saudi-arabia and saudi's are needed in middle east peace talks. I think it's safe to say saudi-arabia is a bigger ally than Nigeria.

paddy_lo:

Is nigeria in the middle east?

bawomolo:

umm the issue of debt relief or payments have come up before on CNN, PBS and countless of other network. no disrespect but it seems you are the one looking for soley negative reports on Africa

bawomolo:

umm we know who patrice lumumba is.  not that much of a secret.

transformR:



You obviously don't otherwise you would be aware of the underlying cause of the current crisis in the Congo; its very poor of you to skim over wikipedia articles then return to be cynical and defensive.

paddy_lo:

,then either he has not been well served by his foreign policy advisers,or he is being intentionally ignorant

bawomolo:

the alarming inflation rate and election violence in zimbabwe dominated the news recently and not the fate of white farmers.  

bawomolo:

here comes the CIA killed lumumba theories blah blah blah.

more like he is prioritizing his visits.  Ghana is seen an emerging economy and soon to be oil producing so why not go there?

The secretary of state visited Nigeria so that's a consolatory price.

paddy_lo:

my question is rhetorical of course,i am not arguing who is a bigger ally btw ngr and saudi arabia

what i am saying,which u cannot deny is that if the US ppresident decides to come to africa,he should stop decieving himself and start his trip from either Nigeria or south africa,as they are the biggest allys america has on the continent
and if he decides to come to west afica and chooses to ignore nigeria,then either he has not been well served by his foreign policy advisers,or he is being intentionally ignorant
but we know the answer is that,he is in black africa,so he can do as he pleases,well we will see in 15yrs

more like he is prioritizing his visits.  Ghana is seen an emerging economy and soon to be oil producing so why not go there?

The secretary of state visited Nigeria so that's a consolatory price.

We should not bother with this bawomolo guy he is in complete denial I think we should let him talk to himself

bawomolo:

 Ghana is seen an emerging economy and soon to be oil producing so why not go there?

The secretary of state visited Nigeria so that's a consolatory price.

paddy_lo:

ha,but he dare not do that to china in asia,to saudi arabia in the middle east,and to russia in europe

i hope the federal govt sells those oil wells to the chinese,heard they are willing to pay btw $30bln-$50bln for them,maybe then obama will fly to aso rock

transformR:

.  Inflation is rampant all over Africa so why do they focus on Zimbabwe?

transformR:

Ghana with a $30 billion economy is emerging? Even Bill gates has got more money than that, I posted the GDP figures earlier stop reinforcing lies!  Ghana as a country is nearly bankrupt.

the per capita income of Ghana is $1500 while that of Nigeria is $2300.   Only a delusional person would ignore the fact that ghanian is catching up in the west african region

bawomolo:

the per capita income of Ghana is $1500 while that of Nigeria is $2300.   Only a delusional person would ignore the fact that ghanian is catching up in the west african region.

transformR:


- A GDP per capita of $2300 - $1500 is a difference of $800   If $1500 per capita is the best Ghana can achive at its best then can't you see its lower than  that of Nigeria when Nigeria is performing at 10% of her potential (Nigerias WORST)?

paddy_lo:

there u go agin with income per capita,do u know that of india? $700

per capita income is meaningless especially when u have a large population

GDP is what u should focus on,and at $20bln ghanas economy is quite negligible

The GDP and per capita income has experienced an upward trend which is good for ECOWAS as a whole.

bawomolo:

and Ghana is performing at 100% of it's potential right? a funny statement considering ghana is about to experience an oil boom.

bawomolo:

Zimbabwe's inflation rate is 200 million % by the way. sounds good enough

paddy_lo:

thats quite true and its good,

but meanwhile check the link below.Ghana GDP actually shrinks this year 2009 and is closer to $16bln


http://news.myjoyonline.com/features/200911/38232.asp

The key words: "about to", do you know anything about oil? Who will build the infrastructure to extract the oil? How long will it take Ghana to produce 1 million barrels? How do you know Ghana will use the income from oil to develop its country? What will be the price of oil next year? This is pure speculation - lets see.

You are coming across as if I am defending Zimbabwe is Zimbabwe Africa? Look that country has problems and you sound like you are happy about it, thats sad you should not rejoice in your peoples misery.

bawomolo:

I see no reason why Ghana can't build it's own version of Aramco.

bawomolo:

ha sucks for them.   might want to read this about naija too

[url]http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/article04/indexn2_html?pdate=191109&ptitle=IMF%20forecasts%20growth%20contraction%20for%20Nigeria[/url]

tough time.

bawomolo:

there is nothing to rejoice about cholera outbreaks and starvation in Zimbabwe.

transformR:



You gave up on your emerging African dream pretty quick, your CNN version of Africa has become more clearer 

ha sucks for them. might want to read this about naija too