Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,209,034 members, 8,004,667 topics. Date: Saturday, 16 November 2024 at 10:32 PM

Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (15) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 (76643 Views)

R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld / Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 / Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) ... (99) (Go Down)

Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by FBS: 12:16pm On Dec 29, 2009
@BD, Nateevs, I guess BCC journalists need HD stunners!  grin

@ALL, Uncle Carlo is adamant we are not going to guy this January and if that is the case, how do we hope to cope for the next 2 seasons with our current squad? (why do I feel the ban may be called off?)

The other option I see is this, win all that we can this season and use the following seasons (at least 2) to build and develop our young boys.

@Ibime, Uncle Carlo understood yesterday that he had to do some tweaking with the formation but I don't think he is going to adopt the 4-3-3 formation for the rest of the season. Maybe just for winter period?  cheesy
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by debosky(m): 12:42pm On Dec 29, 2009
Ibime:

This sounds like excuses. With the exception of Ballack, have Lamps and Anelka lost any fitness? No! Lamps is as fit now as he was at 24 years old, even fitter. . . . and so is Anelka.

They might be 'fitter' (don't know how you arrived at that conclusion) but Lamps is NOWHERE as sharp in front of goal as he was - nothing to do with the diamond. His shooting is way off and the number of chances he wastes these days are amazing.


Firstly, Lampard was injured for nearly 2 months, Maka also missed a few games as did Sheva. Malouda was utter rubbish back then.

So Lamps was injured from Dec 07 till Jan 08? Then you're claiming he played no part - clarify.


Grant did something brilliant. He converted SWP into a central midfielder and SWP carried us for 2 months.

SWP allowed us to play deeper, because his extraordinary pace would allow him to join up with Pizarro really quickly. Hence we only pressed opponents in our own half, giving us more defensive security whilst maintaining the same attacking threat.

Name one player with the talent/pace of SWP at Chelski right now that can be converted into a different role. Even with regards to Pizzaro, while he was never a ball of fire, don't under estimate his experience at the top level compared to the likes of Borini and Sturridge. Ballack and Cole were by far better then than they are now and you need to factor that in as well.


Our formation for a few games back then:


                                    Pizarro


         Malouda                 SWP                Cole


                       Ballack                Makelele*



*Maka missed a few games through injury and Sidwell deputised.

We'll see what Carlo comes up with - he is insistent he won't buy so for him to turn around and do otherwise would be truly shocking.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Ibime(m): 1:27pm On Dec 29, 2009
nateevs:

Ballack has lost at least 3 yards of pace, and Lampard has lost a yard at least. . and considering you want us to revert to a 4-3-3.

Lamps hasnt lost any pace at all. . . .


nateevs:

I am not making excuses for Carllotti. Grant did well during the ACN then, especially with the introduction of SWP in the middle, but he borrowed the idea from JM through Steve Clarke. . . Steve Clarke here now will be a different scenario to Ray Wilkins.

Please. . . . lets give credit where its due. . . . Grant did well wiv Chelsea despite the fact that most of the fans and some of the players were against him. . . . .he did not borrow any idea from anyone! JM had never once played SWP in central midfield.


nateevs:

I remember Maka missed a handful of games with an eye injury but as you said Sidwell was there. So that means at a time, Grant had Essien, Mikel, Maka and Sidwell and they could all do the same job. Now only Mikel and Essien can be comfortably appointed to do the job. . .

If you remember how shocking Sidwell was during that period, you would not make this statement. . . . Belletti >>>>>> Sidwell in central midfield and we still have Belletti. Plus Ivanovic is a killa at DM. We should also be signing Jerko Leko in the first week of January. No excuses man!!!


nateevs:

Relying on Sheva and Pizzarro for a handful of games now is way better than relying on DS, Borini and DiSanto who have never scored a goal in the league for the senior team. .

There is no reason Di Santo cannot perform the same role as Pizzarro did back then, which was simply hold the ball up. Pizarro did not even score a single goal during that period. Maybe one goal max.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 2:03pm On Dec 29, 2009
@ALL, Uncle Carlo is adamant we are not going to guy this January and if that is the case, how do we hope to cope for the next 2 seasons with our current squad? (why do I feel the ban may be called off?)

This your Uncle Carlo sef. . .
Is he related to you paternally or maternally? grin
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by FBS: 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2009
BlueDiva:

This your Uncle Carlo sef. . .
Is he related to you paternally or maternally? grin

LOL. . .I know you guys like to call him Carlotti grin but to me, he looks like an Uncle, no? cheesy
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 2:27pm On Dec 29, 2009
^^^^^
Ok, if you prefer uncle,
Then, uncle it is. wink
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 3:17pm On Dec 29, 2009
@Ibime.

We won't see the end of this. It's best to concentrate on the options we have.

In DM. .

Ivanovic can fill the role. However, I really doubt that he has the creativity needed when attacking in a diamond. In a 4-3-3, with all the space, it should be much easier for him to adapt. Plus he is the most reliable RB we've got.

We can't rely on Matic, as he is tested yet but he can take it up. One player I will like us to convert from defense to DM is Bruma. He's played there in the reserves. He is a brilliant player going forward, he can dribble, tackle, can run with the ball, can shoot and definitely knows where the goal post is.

I never will want to see Ballack and Belletti in this role. Creativity will grind to a halt and counter -attacks against the diamond will become the order of the day.

Order in 4-3-3. . Ivanovic, Matic, Bruma.
Order in diamond. . Matic, Bruma, Ivanovic.


In attack

I am not sure we really have a choice here with Carllotti planning to dance unclothed. It's got to be Anelka - DS then Anelka - Borini. . in the diamond

In a 4-3-3, the forward line has to be Zhirkov, Anelka, Joe Cole. Problem is Anelka can't play in the centre of a 4-3-3, there'll be no one to score in the box or head in crosses.

I am very curious to see what Carllotti will come up with but he sure has options I believe good enough to keep us at 2 pts ahead until the big boys return. Hopefully, without injuries.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by chrisical(m): 3:59pm On Dec 29, 2009
January looks a testing time for us but i hope we scale through.Pls any update on Nic's injury.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 10:51am On Dec 30, 2009
[size=13pt]Chelsea players urging Carlo Ancelotti to spend as dressing-room fears grow over Blues' firepower[/size]

Concerns are growing in the Chelsea dressing room over manager Carlo Ancelotti's refusal to sign a striker in next month's transfer window.

Ancelotti has vowed to place faith in youngsters Daniel Sturridge and Fabio Borini while Didier Drogba is on duty for the Ivory Coast at the Africa Cup of Nations and Nicolas Anelka is absent with a hamstring injury.

Indeed, so confident is Ancelotti that Chelsea can stay top of the pile without their prolific strikers that he has claimed he will run around the training ground unclothed if he goes back on his word and buys a forward.

However, senior members of Chelsea's squad would be only too happy to see their manager in his birthday suit if that means him signing a world-class goalscorer.

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is ready to fund a £50million foray into the transfer market, but Ancelotti is adamant that his title favourites can see off champions Manchester United and improving Arsenal without reinforcements.


Goalkeeper Petr Cech admitted the loss of Drogba -and the rest of Chelsea's African contingent - is a major blow.

'If your best goalscorer goes away then you always miss him,' said Cech. 'But the same goes for all four of them because Michael Essien is a great player, so is John Mikel Obi and Salomon Kalou is important to us.'

Michael Ballack, 33, is ready to sign a two-year contract extension at Chelsea after declaring he can still cut it in the Premier League.

'I can still play the two coming years at the best level for Chelsea,' said Ballack. 'I still have great sporting ambitions.'


Source: Dailymail


CA want's to self destruct our season !!!  angry
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 12:33pm On Dec 30, 2009
And then Michael Ballack gets a 2yr contract. . . he he he he I am rolling on the floor.
Dude should count himelf lucky that I give him a 6month contract if I was in charge.

Chelsea can never say no to Lampard, Ballack, Terry and Drogba. . It's a sick system. Roman has to the guts to fire managers; why can't he say no to this crap. Ballack will be done after this year, Lampard after next year and Terry in 2 years. .

This makes me laugh. We have to bloody sign someone even if it means Carllotti will dance neaked.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2009
I don't understand either.
Seems RA and his crew have lost their minds.

I'm thinking. . .
Roman may be fed up with the club.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 12:58pm On Dec 30, 2009
BlueDiva:

I don't understand either.
Seems RA and his crew have lost their minds.

I'm thinking. . .
Roman may be fed up with the club.

I don't think that's even close. Not wanting to spray money around like before is a different thing.
If he is fed up he won't fire Kenyon . .
I am only worried about his consistency in decision making.
Giving Deco, Belletti and Ballack a standing ovation and saying "Thanks for your time at the Bridge" is a no brainer for a self-made billionaire like Roman.

I think he loves the game so much - He idolizes the players that make it happen. That's perhaps the explanation. Otherwise nothing else can explain how he's quick to fire managers, and CEOs and the players get multi-million pound contracts for strolling around.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Akolawole(m): 12:59pm On Dec 30, 2009
## I think we will definitely BUY, we cannot afford to ignore market in January because of the impending BAN but Uncle Carlo grin was just trying to be political with the media so that the whole market will be looking at Manchester city more than SW6.

In alternative, we might have been doing a lot of deals undergrounds just like Robben and Petr Cech ones.

## My main worry is RA, he seems to be NOT to be that interested with what is happening at the bridge anymore. I am seriously worried.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Akolawole(m): 1:07pm On Dec 30, 2009
Let chill out for a while jare afterall we're top of the league.

As at 31st december 2009, we are champions of England grin Abi no be so!

After our game against Fulham, all players gathered(Quite unusual!) and MR Didier was saying something. What can be a mind reader among us?

What is DD saying? Here are few guesses;

1) I am going to Angola, make sure you win all the matches, afterall we are chelsea

2) Dont mind Carlo, its obvious 4-3-3 is the best for us.

3) Why is JM sitting on RA reserved sits, na the man bring bad luck jare


Lets keep it flowing

N.B

Chelsea DVD's will be sent to the best mind reader tongue

Happy new year to everyone
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by debosky(m): 1:08pm On Dec 30, 2009
Will Chelski truly buy? More importantly,  can they afford to buy?

With the club supposed to be 'virtually' debt-free now, will RA now want to further increase the debts of the club or will any player purchases also be converted into equity.  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8434698.stm
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by debosky(m): 1:10pm On Dec 30, 2009
Terry, DD, Lamps and co brought him the titles he craved. . . with his brief history in football, RA has not learned to separate club success from individual success.

To him, you can't succeed without Terry and co - till he sees clear signs that things are no longer as good as they were, he will continue resigning them.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by FBS: 1:25pm On Dec 30, 2009
Akolawole:

## I think we will definitely BUY, we cannot afford to ignore market in January because of the impending BAN but Uncle Carlo grin was just trying to be political with the media so that the whole market will be looking at Manchester city more than SW6.

In alternative, we might have been doing a lot of deals undergrounds just like Robben and Petr Cech ones.

## My main worry is RA, he seems to be NOT to be that interested with what is happening at the bridge anymore. I am seriously worried.
I use to think like that before but not any more. . .the man is very much INTERESTED!!!
Uncle Carlo must buy even if he has to dance naked from SW6 to Italy! cheesy My thinking is that he is trying to show the world that we are not desperate and that translates to cheaper prices for the players. wink
Remember even AF said he was never going to sell CR9 to RM but he eventually did. These things happen.

My concern though is this, na who we go sign? Why give Ballack 2 yrs extension?
More importantly, I don't understand why The Prince ain't playing.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by chrisical(m): 4:21pm On Dec 30, 2009
Its strange to continously hear uncle carlo undecided saying we wont be signing players in january
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Ibime(m): 4:35pm On Dec 30, 2009
Ballack gets new 2 year contract? I laugh in Kafanchan.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Abdblues(m): 4:36pm On Dec 30, 2009
Thought it was in the media sometime ago that Chelski was discussing a possible tranfer for Aguero? i cant shout we HAVE to buy players o o o , what with the impending transfer BAN!!!!
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Abdblues(m): 4:37pm On Dec 30, 2009
We need to get rid of Ballack ASAP!
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by debosky(m): 4:41pm On Dec 30, 2009
Ibime:

Ballack gets new 2 year contract? I laugh in Kafanchan.

Has the deal been confirmed? At this rate Chelski will be the first team in the premiership to field players on crutches. grin
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 4:48pm On Dec 30, 2009
debosky:

Has the deal been confirmed? At this rate Chelski will be the first team in the premiership to field players on crutches. grin

Well only second to the first team to field players who are barely learning to walk . . grin grin
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by dayokanu(m): 4:52pm On Dec 30, 2009
And then Michael Ballack gets a 2yr contract. . . he he he he I am rolling on the floor.


Ballack gets new 2 year contract? I laugh in Kafanchan.


Maga don payyyy shout Halleluyahhhhhh

Did someone say Chelsea has learnt and they are no longer Magas?

Once a maga always a Maga. Abeg come sign Luca toni for 7 more years or get Seedorf self
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Sauron1: 4:53pm On Dec 30, 2009
nateevs:

Well only second to the first team to field players who are barely learning to walk . . grin grin

Wrong reply. . . .

It shoulda been. . . .At this rate, Arsenal will be the first team in the Premiership to play EMBRYOS. grin grin
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 6:11pm On Dec 30, 2009
I still think we'll sign players.
Our current squad is struggling, surely RA ain't that stupid.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 6:22pm On Dec 30, 2009
DiSanto's loan extended at Blackburn Rovers.

[url=http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~1918964,00.html]TOCFCWS[/url]
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 6:30pm On Dec 30, 2009
^^^^
Good riddance jor.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Ibime(m): 6:45pm On Dec 30, 2009
nateevs:

DiSanto loan extended at Blackburn Rovers.

[url=http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~1918964,00.html]TOCFCWS[/url]

Franco is a player we need at this time.

BlueDiva:

^^^^
Good riddance jor.

You lack tactical foresight. . . . who can hold the ball up except Franco. . . . being a striker is not just about scoring goals you know.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 6:51pm On Dec 30, 2009
^^^^^^
You probably misunderstood ma post.,
I love our boys, i want them to develop before playing first team for us.

Good riddance = go and gain experience first before returning.
I'd hate to see him return in January, he ain't ready.

We don't need Franco now, we need an experienced player that will deputize for DD and Nic.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by nateevs(m): 7:10pm On Dec 30, 2009
Chelsea are now debt free. .

The main figures:

- Group turnover was down from[b] £213.1m to £206.4m[/b]

- Turnover was generally flat. The small year-on-year reduction reflects the front-loaded nature of certain sponsorship revenues

- Loss for the financial year reduced from £65.7m to £44.4m

- Remainder of shareholder debt of £340m was capitalised

- Net capital expenditure reduced from £85.1m to £4.2m following the completion of major capital projects such as the training centre at Cobham

- Cash outflow reduced from £107.4m to £16.9m




These figures are worth discussing. To Debosky and Chac - when we entered a rigorous argument last year and I told you Chelsea's debt can be converted to equity. There proves it.

Wrt discussion, I will like to see what was reduced in cash outflow as that seems to me largely responsible for the reduction in net loss; which could also point to lack of transfer activity in the summer.

Overall it's nice to know that we only owe £44m.


This furthermore expresses Roman's commitment to the club and serves as a reminder that the club intends to be self sufficient by 2010. and could be the real reason Carllotti insists we are not making any transfers in January.

The plan may be to try to cope with the youngsters during the ACN and "hope" things go right. The bleeding of Kakuta, Borini, DS, Stoch, Bruma 5 young players into the first team will put a lid on the ever bloating wage bill. So the addition of transfer fees, agent fees, wages of the likes of Ribery, Aguero et al will prove self defeating to the non stop proclamation of self-sufficiency by 2010.  

This way, assuming turnover is near constant, we can begin to talk about profits for the first time in a more years than I can remember.

It may be safe then to conclude that there will be no transfers in the January transfer window. Only of course if my postulations are completely wrong.
Re: Chelsea Fans Thread : Winners of the FA Cup And League Winners 09/10 by Nobody: 7:25pm On Dec 30, 2009
Let's hope the figures are not doctored.
2012 was the deadline and we made it by 09, cool.

(1) (2) (3) ... (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) ... (99)

Tottenham Hotspur Vs Liverpool: UCL Final (0 - 2) On 1st June 2019 / Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) / French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 65
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.