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Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by SpecialAdviser(m): 11:24pm On Mar 04, 2017 |
Going 2ru this piece showed me how humble and peace loving Ojukwu was. I'm impressed. What impresses me more is that those who frustrated any peace move have suffered for their stubbornness and their generation are still suffering. 7 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by pazienza(m): 11:30pm On Mar 04, 2017 |
coolitempa: Yoloba liar. No one stopped Awolowo from seceding from Nigeria, atleast not Zik. The British made it clear that there was no option for independence of any Nigerian group outside Nigeria. Bamenda that wanted to secede were given the option of either joining Cameroun or remaining with Nigeria, no option of independence was offered. I'm sure that if Awo pushed for unity of Odua with Benin republic, the French and British would have reached a compromise and let him. "Secondly at the 1954 Constitutional Conference that was held in Lagos, the Action Group, under the distinguished leadership of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, demanded that the “right to secession” be included in the proposed new constitution. This was rejected by the Colonial Secretary, Oliver Lyttleton." http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/time- think-femi-fani-kayode/ Yolobas must learn that non of their falsehoods against Ndiigbo will survive 21st century scrutiny. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Intrepid01(m): 12:49am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Youngadvocate: Can you see that your sense of reasoning n comprehension needs urgent improvement? Who made him the leader of the Eastern Nigeria? Does bn the Governor of Eastern Nigeria,via appointment of the FG at the time translates to "leader" in your own word? You decided to be smart by half and left all.the damming points and ask an irrelevant question, maybe you should ask yourself what caused the pogrom as well. 3 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Intrepid01(m): 1:00am On Mar 05, 2017 |
pazienza: Sometimes I wonder if the hatred in you peoples life is just in the flash or blood, but I cant but believe it is congenial. There's nothing that can be done to pacify children of hate, Hausa-Fulani that purnished your fathers and mother's during the war you don't take them up but Yorubas. Sometimes I wonder when you people talk of hatred towards you from the Yoruba, if not that you and your fathers are naturally ungrateful people. You would have known that before an after the war no tribe has bn more accommodating to the yeebos than Yoruba.... No tribe ppotwcted your properties during the war than Yorubas did but cos Yorubas are forever ahead of you, which is too bittter for you to swallow, na to hate. Besides, what is you peoples problem with Yoruba succeeding, if we decide to it not , it is none of your fathers business. Only cowards and people that have accepted to be perpetual loosers run away from challenges. Yeebos lost and wanted to run awa, the same way they lost in 2015 and crying to secceed. The naked truth is, you people will continue to loose in Nigeria and wont be allowed to go anywhere, you'll be seriously whipped to line. Politically you're irrelevant and a minority in this Country. 7 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by pazienza(m): 1:14am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Intrepid01: So in other words, you have no problem with your forerunners cooking up image damaging Igbophobic falsehoods and handing it down to you lots to continue propagating in this 21st century. But you have problems with Ndiigbo debunking your lies and redeeming our image from your campaign of calumny? 7 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Youngadvocate(m): 2:17am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Intrepid01:Bro, I am not fighting with you. Can't just start now. However, on the question of whether Ojukwu was a Leader of the Eastern Nigeria...come on...that shouldn't even resurface. Every Easterner looked up to Ojukwu as at then. For your benefit, I would recommend you read the account of N.U. Akpan, the then Chief of (Civil Service) Staff in which he highlighted how Ndi Igbo "looked up to him as their saviour from the Massacre". They pleaded with him to recall Igbo people in Kaduna, Kano and other crisis torn areas then. Ojukwu was just more than an idol then and it would be expensively ridiculous to say the least. 3 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Intrepid01(m): 5:04am On Mar 05, 2017 |
pazienza: Iinfact I have many problems with them; 1. For making me think that all humans are to be treated with respect and accommodated irrespective of tribe or race. 2. I have problem with them for keeping the properties of Ibos during the war while their properties in he North and even PHC were looted. 3. I have problems with them for making Ibos feel.so.much at home in South-West unlike making them feel he'll on earth which the Hausa-Fulani constantly subject them to. 4. I have problems with them for their that irrespective of where we come from, every person that lives in an environment deserves to be given a chance in the government of that environment. Even if such a people won't do same. 5. I have so many problems with them, for thinking that everyone deserves to be treated with love and respect even if not earned or valued. 6. I will prefer a kind of treatment being meted to strangers in the North, so that ourUNGRATEFUL visitors can know that it is a privilege. So many things I have problems with in their behaviour, c'mon how can you be good to ingrates. 3 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Intrepid01(m): 5:17am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Youngadvocate: Bros I am not also fighting you.....Ibos looked up to Ojukwu at the time cos he was outspoken about their course. He assumed the role of a leader . Nobody made him the leader of the Ibos but himself. Come to think of it, how can he even be chosen as the leader of the Ibos when people like Nnamdi Azikiwe was still living? But the dude was power drunk, he wanted power by all means and couldn't stomach the fact that Gowon is now the Head of State. He took an opportunity at the expense of his own people, just like many Ibo leaders did with him. Often times inhave asked these questions; howany of Ojukwus, Achebes, Effiongs, Azikiwes children died either through the celebrated starvation or gun during the war? Despite the propagated animosity during the war, how come Achebe was still able to father 2 children during the war? How come Ojukwu was able to make provision for his family when he was fleeing but couldn't make provisions for the people of Biafra? Rather, he left them to suffer the bad fate he brought on them. Adolf Hitler could have ran away after it became clear that he had lost, Mohammad Ghadaffi was offered assylum by Russia and Saudi Arabia, they all refused cos they were men of Honour; who were genuine in their course, stood and died for what they believed in. But our Coward friend (Ojukwu) after beating his chest that he'll bring Nigeria to her kneels , after subjecting the Ibos to unwanted war , he fled in the middle of the night. Maybe he would have died a hero if he lost his life during the war , rather than live a villain after the war. No wonder Ibos never voted for him in all the elections he contested. Even Nnewi Senatorial election he lost. What a shame. 5 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Nobody: 5:27am On Mar 05, 2017 |
What is so difficult about ending a war? why solicot for the help of OAU to stop a war? wait...When the war finally ended did we need the help of any OAU or president to end it? abeg...Ojukwu should have just called gowon and declare the war over... and that's the end... abi? Zik met with his friend to push Biafra issue to the fore in O.A.U... Awo led Nigeria delegation to the meeting to upturn Zik pro Biafra moves.. so wetin dey there? abeg... 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by HiddenShadow: 5:39am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Nalikedis: And tomorrow you start complaining when they dominate you in Lagos 6 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by austinsmat(m): 5:59am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Life is a fucking bitch awolowo stop peace talk and ended his life own life with poison and goowon refuse to attend for peace talk now his tribe are killin like flies by Fulanis 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Odingo1: 6:03am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Intrepid01:What have a Yoruba man ever stood for,that is why Emirate stool is installed all over your land from illorin to offa without a single opposition to Hausa- Fulani 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Intrepid01(m): 7:36am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Odingo1: Lol...your sense of engagement in discussions is poor. Despite all the facts I dished out in there all you could come up with it is this? For the records, I know your fathers and their fathers in their usual way also misinformed you about this too, Offa town in Kwara state has no emirate stool. The story behind the emirate stool in illorin has been told , you can find out about it. But pls, dont ask your kinsmen, truth is alien to them. It is so unfortunate that your tribe that has lost against Yoruba on all war front is asking me what we have ever stood for. We stood and still standing for the actualization of the Nigerian dream; wherein every tribe, majority or minority would be able to achieve their desired goal with due respect to others. We stood and still stand for a Nigeria where deluded and uncultured tribe with a deep vestigial trait of hatred are made to understand that the world does no revolve around an individual, a tribe or a race alone. We stood and still stand for a Nigeria wherein democracy is the order of governance and the people are given the right to choose who to lead them without threat or coercion. These and many more are the things we stood and still stand for that made us to sub-due the lost tribe of Israel during the civil war. These are the reasons why we are the champion of democracy in Nigeria; via advocation, sensitization, bridge-building, inclusion, and even electioneering. The reason why we continue to disgrace and show superiority to those ( wailing tribe) who are still babies to the democratic games. Since 1999 we have been and would be more relevant in Nigeria's democracy more than any other tribe, mind you, our relevance is devoid of inferiority complex, lack of a political stand and confusion. 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Youngadvocate(m): 7:49am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Intrepid01:1. On the Paragraph, I think it safe to say, with all due respect, that you seem not to be abreast with the nature of leadership. Circumstances make Leaders. Leadership isn't basically a position or a role. It is the function of a personality in a circumstances. Leaders are born out of the circumstance of either solving a problem or creating one. 2. I would perhaps, give you the benefit of the doubt by putting out the question of Azikiwe and Ojukwu who is a better leader to Ndi Igbo and graciously, I would share the responses with you and so, I believe, you take back that line comparing Ojukwu /Azikiwe when the Biafra war is given a mention. 3.From all accounts by international writers, safe Pro-Nigerian-history-distorting-writers, there is consensus underpinned in strong facts that Ojukwu left the shores of Biafra Land under unwavering persuasion from the Leaders and right thinking persons of Biafra because if he had been captured, it would have meant that one, Nigeria won the war, two, that there would never be the mention of Biafra, there could have been conviction and possible imprisonment or execution of the Biafra armies that fought the alongside Ojukwu which Nigerian Government was ever matching forward to. 4. Biafra, in the account of the war, from the side of truth, out-tpowered Nigeria, having captured her territory as far a past Ore and over the banks of kogi and Benue. Nigeria could only rely on external assistance and the of course, the Historic sabotage from a Yoruba man, Banjo and his Igbo counterpart, Ifeajunna. 5. The facts are out there that Ojukwu made all moves possible to prevent the war but the cabal that dictated for Gown never wanted that to happen because the world, influenced by the British government was yet behind Nigeria. Please, Bro, make your research before setting out your hypothesis. 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by cheruv: 7:58am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Yoruba and lies is like bread and butter 1 Like |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by PFRB: 8:53am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Intrepid01: Ojukwu said that the army hierarchy should be followed in succession. he pointed at Brigadier Ogundipe to take over since Ironsi had died. When Ogundipe ran away, he pointed at Cornelius Adebayo to take over. Gowon refused and held on to power. Both Ogundipe and Adebayor are Yorubas. I hope you know. 5 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by SonOfEl(m): 8:57am On Mar 05, 2017 |
PFRB: Don't mind the Yoruba bigots....they try to distort history 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 9:22am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Nalikedis: Guy, I can't stop laughing!! I wish you had read the rest of the story at the link which the OP posted in his opening article. You would see that Ojukwu was the one that scuttled all the good intentions of the African leaders to end the war. 1 Like |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 9:27am On Mar 05, 2017 |
At Niamey here was Ojukwu. I was on his side. Gowon wasn’t there but Haile Sellassie, Hamani Diori, Tubman and General Akran were there representing OAU. So, I told Ojukwu, I said now you have an upper hand. These respected leaders of the OAU were there. I had briefed Ojukwu. I said ‘look your line of approach is to express appreciation for what the OAU was doing in order to maintain peace in Africa but you were prepared to co-operate and you are leaving the whole matter in the hands of the OAU to see what could be done to bring an earlier cessation of hostilities. I said just say that and thank them and sit down. 5 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 9:35am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Youngadvocate: Ojukwu absconded from Nigeria, when it was obvious that the war was lost leaving the rest of his people. He ran away leaving that brave man Lt-Gen. Philip Effiong behind, to sort out the mess he (Ojukwu) had created and end the war. Like Effiong said: At the end of it all when I saw they (Biafran soldiers) could no longer continue and Ojukwu had fled, I did what was ideal after wide consultation.... http://www.africamasterweb.com/EffiongTheMan.html 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 9:56am On Mar 05, 2017 |
SpecialAdviser: Are you talking about the same Ojukwu that scuttled the peace moves to end the war? What on earth was peace-loving about a man who boasted that "even the grasses would fight for Biafra?" The same man who amassed unarmed civilians in the fields of Enugu university campus and sent them to the battlefield against federal soldiers that were carrying weapons? Did those human lives matter to him? Please read the rest of the article before you comment. In his book "The Struggle for Secession, 1966-1970: A Personal Account of the Nigerian Civil War" on page 96, Ntieyong U. Akpan stated that " As far as I was concerned, the very idea of sending unarmed and innocent civilians to be slaughtered was heinous, and considerably destroyed my respect for the Governor as a human being and as a leader." 6 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by pazienza(m): 10:40am On Mar 05, 2017 |
He said in the memo that Gowon had given too much away in Aburi and that it would lead to the destruction of the country. He further added that Gowon had “legalised” total regionalism which “will make the centre very weak.” Akenzua alluded in his memo that a weak centre would lead to confederation and total disintegration of the country. It was the memo that prompted Gowon to summon a meeting of the secretaries to the military governments and other officials which was held in Benin City between February 16 and 18, 1967. If you look at the minutes of the Benin meeting presided over by Mr. H. A. Ejueyitchie, Secretary to the Federal Military Government, you will discover that it was a total rejection of what was agreed upon in Aburi. The Benin meeting interpreted in its own way the agreement reached in Aburi. http://www.punchng.com/biafra-memo-akenzua- aburi/ Look who scuttled all chance of peaceful resolutionof the Eastern region massacres? Surprise suprise, it wasn't Ojukwu, who had already negotiated for peace at Aburi. 6 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by coolitempa(f): 12:07pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
pazienza: At whose prompting....you will soon die from your hate of Yorubas. It is a known fact that of all three regions from the days, it was only the western region that demanded the right to secession. Your iPod infected attempt to distort historical facts is dead on arrival. 4 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by SuperS1Panther: 12:33pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
The source is as dubious as the fraud of a nation they are clamouring for. |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by SuperS1Panther: 12:45pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
@ laudeate -- thanks for posting th concluding part of their narratives. The OP deliberately left that part out. The bottom line is whether they embraced peace or not, they were resoundingly defeated and turned to war slaves and booties. End of story. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by blazhykowskyi(m): 1:06pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
SuperS1Panther:igbos and their fraudulent ways. notice how they dubiously left the damning part of the interview only to start blaming Awolowo as usual. I implore everybody to read the concluding part of the interview before commenting. 3 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by blazhykowskyi(m): 1:17pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
the war is all about oil according to zik. but today these miscreants deny this fact when ever it is put forward to them. they simply want to have the oil for themselves as the greedy lots they are. now how would a people who hate Edo want to have urhobo and isoko in their country? aren't they edoid? you left Edo but want urhobo and isoko. you hate Yoruba but wants itshekiri? nigga please. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by pazienza(m): 6:05pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
coolitempa: And who stopped you from secession? Zik? Cos we had already bursted that your propaganda and falsehood of blaming Zik and Ndiigbo for Awolowo cowardice of not standing up against lyttleton in demanding for secession. Even Endeley was able to negotiate secession from Nigeria and union with Cameroun for Bamenda people, Zik never stopped him. Why had you Yolobas decided to place the failure, incompetence and cowardice of Awolowo on Zik and Ndiigbo by concocting lies of Ndiigbo and Zik stopping you lots from secession? Just to justify your decision in teaming up with the British and Arewa in using military force in preventing Ndiigbo from secession. You are even shamelessly blaming Ironsi and Ndiigbo for the failed state of the colonial entity called Nigeria, when it was you lots that supported Gowon's dissolution of the regions and creation of dysfunctional entities called states. I don't hate Yolobas. I just don't want to share a nation with you lots, no reasonable person would want to. It's as simple as that. 5 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by SuperPanther: 6:10pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
Where is xtrorse? |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 6:23pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
SuperS1Panther: You dey mind dem? I am used to their lies, half-truths and petty propaganda by now, as well as the way they like to twist facts and embellish historical narratives to suit their own narrow perspectives. Some of them keep forgetting that various accounts of the civil war, are already in public domain. Anyone with an open mind who is interested in learning the truth can read up all these different accounts, and verify them. But what our IPOBic friends like doing, is to take one section that favours their (un)righteous cause, wave it like a flag to bolster their stand, and pull down other ethnic groups who they see as their perceived enemies. God pass all of them! 2 Likes |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by laudate: 6:44pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
Ok, some story tellers are using Akenzua's memo to claim that someone else scuttled the chances of a peaceful resolution. Akenzua was just one of the permanent secretaries in Gowon's cabinet. Other permanent secretaries saw things differently. Here is another perspective. I mentioned in another thread, that Decree 8 met 80% of the demands Ojukwu made at Aburi, yet some simpletons rained invectives on me. A wise man would have accepted the decree, and pushed for its implementation, with a view to getting the rest of his demands met, at the end of some other day. But not Ojukwu. He threw everything out of the window, and announced a secession. Now, it is gratifying to see that some other folks have analysed the whole issue, and reached the same conclusion. Here is another view shared by former super permanent secretary Philip Chukwuedo Asiodu's in an old interview concerning Decree 8 of 1967: WHY ABURI ACCORD FAILED, BY ASIODU |tnv | THE NIGERIAN VOICE | Asiodu: "Then few of us- Alison Ayida, late Aliu Martins, myself, Abdulaziz, who served in the East, 'we went to ask Ojukwu what is it you want so that we could prepare the ground for a meaningful conference, where every side would know what they are saying.' Eventually, just as Ojukwu was warming up to tell us what he wanted , so that we could have come back to Lagos, sell those ideas to Gowon, and see if we can reach agreement, C. C. Mojekwu came and broke up the meeting. Asiodu:"When they subjected this Aburi accord to simple analysis, it was simply saying Nigeria is no more practically. And as far as was concerned, the civil war or no civil war, then chaos would have started later. All the same, we said look, … if we still want to be a country….authority which deals with customs, currency, federal trunk roads, foreign and external defences, that is more than enough for a government. But it must be able to act. 1 Like |
Re: Read The 1979 Interview Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe Had With Mohammed Haruna On Biafra by Qyubee(m): 7:08pm On Mar 05, 2017 |
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