Godprotectigbo5:
this woman no get shame atol



kontinu

Smh.. So the pastor should go free for committing this evil act abi?

ILoveToFuCcK:

Even if otobo presents live sex tap of pastor fuckleman... I'm sure you'll still defend him
It is a pity, Shame on you...

My friend the thing tire me, Nigerians can be so stupid when it comes to defending their pastors, they see pastors as Jesus Christ.. No wonder we are regarded as a 3rd world country because we mixed with blind people

why Abuja , Abuja while the man stays at Auche all day of the wee k , am see a foul play Here .

Continue bringing out stupid evidences...idonbelieve u...still laffing in swahili

Ishilove:

Can you name a few?

Please stop seeing pastors are God, they are two different thing.. Nigeria won't get better with such mindset your expressing.. There is a reason we have a laid down Law, which everybody should obey irrespective of your status.


It seems your a member of his church, please no matter who the person maybe when he commits a crime or an evil act don't pretend you don't see it cause it might happen to your love one's someday.

In civilised countries, even celebrities get arrested when they commit crimes wouldn't you wish Nigeria is the same?

solomonsly11:
Please tell this lady otodo or what is her name that we don see the evidence then what did she want again after the evidence they doctored. I can't blame her she's doing the job they pay her for very soon you will see her using expensive cars from the money Kaduna Governor gave her. All we are saying is that they should stop killing Christians in Southern Kaduna.

Stop saying she was paid.Apostle Suleman knew her since 2015.He sent money to her several times. They chated on face chat ....... Suleman inciting Statement was Jan 2017.So tell me the correlation BTW Stephanie and his DSS ordeal.If Stephanie had some political backing, she would not be in Kirikiri and Alagbo for weeks .

Ezechinwa:


Please stop seeing pastors are God, they are two different thing.. Nigeria won't get better with such mindset your expressing.. There is a reason we have a laid down Law, which everybody should obey irrespective of your status.


It seems your a member of his church, please no matter who the person maybe when he commits a crime or an evil act don't pretend you don't see it cause it might happen to your love one's someday.

In civilised countries, even celebrities get arrested when they commit crimes wouldn't you wish Nigeria is the same?

Although the question wasn't addressed to you, you didn't address the question. The person I quoted alleged the Apostle sent money to 'many actresses', so I am asking him to name a few. This is the same question that will be asked in the court of law so it has nothing to do with my points of view concerning Nigerian religious leaders.

If you must make allegations, be sure to be able to back them up with facts.

Ishilove:

Although the question wasn't addressed to you, you didn't address the question. The person I quoted alleged the Apostle sent money to 'many actresses', so I am asking him to name a few. This is the same question that will be asked in the court of law so it has nothing to do with my points of view concerning Nigerian religious leaders.

If you must make allegations, be sure to be able to back them up with facts.

She has brought a lot of evidences, but how many have your pastor brought to prove his innocence?

Ezechinwa:


She has brought a lot of evidences, but how many have your pastor brought to prove his innocence?

Kindly name the 'lots' of evidences'. Aside these screenshots that corroborates Apostle's admission that he sent her money when they first met, and snapchat screenshots that look doctored, what other evidence has she produced?

I can c gwagwalada in dat transfer detail. Ha! Solo, so wen u came to Gwags, dis was wat u did? U even went to UniAbuja to "preach" also.
Ha! Eleyi gidi gan

Since 2008 when a popular mog was chasing my 17yr old gf, that's when i stoped believing in mog, they are all bad gangs

coolesmile:
What was he paying so much money for?

Ushering job na u know wara mean?

irynterri:
did I just see 1 million..dear Lord!!,later Chimamanda will be talking about 'male privilege',abeg how many men don touch 1 million just for warming person bed

Ayam jus bearing the cry dah is coming up here sef
Akant bear it again

Wiseman5:

I believe you were among the 3some u mentioned, also u had the torchlight for them when he got her pregnant. This makes u a good witness and therefore can appear before court to testify all u witnessed . but bear in mind that These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Proverbs 6:16‭-‬19 KJV
http://bible.com/1/pro.6.16-19.KJV

3some pastor worshipper! God also hate FOOLS!! Who don't think for themselves.

zudozz:
what does she want to achieve now?

Revenge!!

coolesmile:
What was he paying so much money for?

Something thats so sweet... Sotey him head bald

mployer:


The man said it from the beginning that she asked for money and he sent her. Tell her to bring another evidence.

And he keep sending money on several occasions.. Meningitis don reach ur side ba... Pls go hospital on time oo.. Cos dis ur thinking na elele

coolesmile:
What was he paying so much money for?

Don't know what to believe again

Ishilove:
Abeg this girl should go and get a life. I was expecting a more solid evidence not this trash. Apostle never denied transferring money on more than one occasion to this wayward mistake of a human being so what is this rubbish? Shameless creature.

This issue has become stale and overflogged jare

What was the apostle buying thats he payed so much money for Will u just be realistic for once on this matter.. Ask those that knows both of them at the pr8otea hotel ikeja what happened the last time your apostle lodged there... Calling her a mistake shows youre definitely one.. Cos like beget likes... Its a mistake child like you to recorgnise ur kind...

Ishilove:

Although the question wasn't addressed to you, you didn't address the question. The person I quoted alleged the Apostle sent money to 'many actresses', so I am asking him to name a few. This is the same question that will be asked in the court of law so it has nothing to do with my points of view concerning Nigerian religious leaders.

If you must make allegations, be sure to be able to back them up with facts.

I have been following your comments on this forum about this Otobo vs Suleiman issue for quite a while and i have been wondering why all your comments seems to favor the pastor and always using derogatory words on the Stephine Otobo girl.

I could only think of three

1: That you are a Christian and you probably think the Christian faith is under attack and you have taken it as a point of duty to defend your faith

2: Apostle Suleiman made some remarks about Fulani herdsmen, yes he spoke out, he won the hearts of many who had wondered why every Christian religious leader had kept quiet.. Infact even though am a Muslim, i agreed entirely with Apostle Suleiman when he spoke against Fulani herdsmen.. Maybe all these things made you to think you had to protect him because you probably think he's under attack for speaking against Fulani herdsmen

3: Maybe you are not entirely convinced about the girl's submission, maybe you think the girl's story doesn't add up, many incorehences in her tales. .yeah many people still doubt her tales.. Infact you are right not to believe everything she says.

But now let's try to be logical, this case is all about logic.
I agree with anybody that calls Otobo a prostitute or a stripper.. Yes she might be one but she's also human.

Apostle sulaiman said the lady was blackmailing her so he got her arrested, yes apostle sulaiman might be right about Otobo trying to blackmail him but let's consider what can make someone blackmail another.

See blackmail is a difficult crime and it's not even easy at all.

First you can blackmail someone by

1: framing the person up, to frame someone up isn't easy especially a pastor of that calibre.. Framing someone up needs physical contact in order for it to be effective.. So i don't believe Otobo framed apostle sulaiman so as to blackmail him. since apostle claimed he never met her physically.. Someone can threaten you on phone but blackmail on phone and you went to arrest someone you have never met

2:This is the simplest and this is what Otobo probably did, she had a relationship with the apostle and wanted more money from him. The apostle probably was getting tired of it so he got her arrested.

Like I said earlier blackmailing someone ain't easy, you must have something incriminating against that person or something the person doesn't want the whole world to know about. It happens a lot in Nigeria, big men have sexual relationship with their side chicks and they use it to blackmail them.

Why i think apostle Suleiman is lying is this. If you try to blackmail me claiming we had a relationship and i know i have never met you in my life before then there's no need to get you arrested.. .arresting you means i don't want to be exposed by you.. .it's just simple aunty ishilove. Yea Otobo might be blackmailing apostle sulaiman but what does she have against him to blackmail him that apostle had to arrest her? You need to think like this and not the way you currently thinking.

Now apostle Suleiman said he was trying to help her, lol. I for once know that's questionable. ...I once worked with an NGO, we did our work in conjunction with a church then.. Our work was to rehabilitate and empower sex workers working at danger line, abule otun in abeokuta , most of these sex workers came from the eastern part of the country. The church was preaching to them and converting most of them. The church released certain amount of money to us, we took some of these girls to become apprentice in various trades.. Some we relocated them back and the church handed them over to their other branches in those girls states.

What am trying to say is that the church did an extensive monitoring on these girls, they made sure their lifes were changed for good and they will never return back to being a prostitute .

Some of you ought to be asking the apostle why he kept sending huge amount of money to a prostitute without proper monitoring, especially when he doesn't know her? The church should have a branch in Canada that will do the monitoring of church funds or did the apostle send the money to her in secret!?



Now the girl said so many things about being pregnant, marriage plans etc.. The pregnancy might be true but i don't think she will be able to prove it but her promise of marriage claim could be totally false or exaggerated.

Apostle Suleiman has a strong case against the lady, i.e the blackmail charge... The lady doesn't have a case according to law because even if they had any sexual relationship as long as it was consensual then there's nothing the court can do about it. But then it's an offence to promise someone marriage .

To constitute a breach of promise to marry, two elements are essential: First it must be proved to the satisfaction of the court that there was a promise to marry under the relevant law. Second, it must be shown that one party to the agreement, whether the man or the woman, has failed or refused to honour the obligation. When the above are established, the injured party may sue the other for breach of the contract and claim damages thereof, although no damages may be recovered unless his or her testimony is corroborated by some other material evidence in support of such promise in line with section 197 of the Evidence Act 2004. What constitutes material evidence is a question of law for the court to determine

The breach of promise to marry could either be in the form of non-performance or anticipatory breach. There may be non-performance where the time for performance is fixed, for example where parties agree on a particular date, the failure or refusal of one of the parties to turn up for the marriage constitutes a breach. Where no date is fixed, the law implies that the promise is one to marry within a reasonable time or at the request of one party. Where however, the promise is subject to a condition precedent, for example consent of parents, there can be no breach until the condition is satisfied or fulfilled.


The girl is using the marriage story just to convince the court that she was a victim and that's why it has been difficult for her to prove it but she has proved beyond reasonable doubt that she had an unholy relationship with apostle Suleiman..

Apostle Suleiman can end this thing if he will tender is passport and let's compare it to Otobo's own but then again the case is in court and it will amount to subjudice, the court of public opinion is left to wait and draw conclusions based on logic .


This apostle Suleiman scandal has really exposed the gullibility of many on this forum.. Am quite sad the way people think.. Religion has done more harm than good to our thinking.

Miss ishilove kindly consider all these jargons that i have listed and let me know your view. .GOD BLESS

omofunaab:




I have been following your comments on this forum about this Otobo vs Suleiman issue for quite a while and i have been wondering why all your comments seems to favor the pastor and always using derogatory words on the Stephine Otobo girl.

I could only think of three

1: That you are a Christian and you probably think the Christian faith is under attack and you have taken it as a point of duty to defend your faith

2: Apostle Suleiman made some remarks about Fulani herdsmen, yes he spoke out, he won the hearts of many who had wondered why every Christian religious leader had kept quiet.. Infact even though am a Muslim, i agreed entirely with Apostle Suleiman when he spoke against Fulani herdsmen.. Maybe all these things made you to think you had to protect him because you probably think he's under attack for speaking against Fulani herdsmen

3: Maybe you are not entirely convinced about the girl's submission, maybe you think the girl's story doesn't add up, many incorehences in her tales. .yeah many people still doubt her tales.. Infact you are right not to believe everything she says.

But now let's try to be logical, this case is all about logic.
I agree with anybody that calls Otobo a prostitute or a stripper.. Yes she might be one but she's also human.

Apostle sulaiman said the lady was blackmailing her so he got her arrested, yes apostle sulaiman might be right about Otobo trying to blackmail him but let's consider what can make someone blackmail another.

See blackmail is a difficult crime and it's not even easy at all.

First you can blackmail someone by

1: framing the person up, to frame someone up isn't easy especially a pastor of that calibre.. Framing someone up needs physical contact in order for it to be effective.. So i don't believe Otobo framed apostle sulaiman so as to blackmail him. since apostle claimed he never met her physically.. Someone can threaten you on phone but blackmail on phone and you went to arrest someone you have never met

2:This is the simplest and this is what Otobo probably did, she had a relationship with the apostle and wanted more money from him. The apostle probably was getting tired of it so he got her arrested.

Like I said earlier blackmailing someone ain't easy, you must have something incriminating against that person or something the person doesn't want the whole world to know about. It happens a lot in Nigeria, big men have sexual relationship with their side chicks and they use it to blackmail them.

Why i think apostle Suleiman is lying is this. If you try to blackmail me claiming we had a relationship and i know i have never met you in my life before then there's no need to get you arrested.. .arresting you means i don't want to be exposed by you.. .it's just simple aunty ishilove. Yea Otobo might be blackmailing apostle sulaiman but what does she have against him to blackmail him that apostle had to arrest her? You need to think like this and not the way you currently thinking.

Now apostle Suleiman said he was trying to help her, lol. I for once know that's questionable. ...I once worked with an NGO, we did our work in conjunction with a church then.. Our work was to rehabilitate and empower sex workers working at danger line, abule otun in abeokuta , most of these sex workers came from the eastern part of the country. The church was preaching to them and converting most of them. The church released certain amount of money to us, we took some of these girls to become apprentice in various trades.. Some we relocated them back and the church handed them over to their other branches in those girls states.

What am trying to say is that the church did an extensive monitoring on these girls, they made sure their lifes were changed for good and they will never return back to being a prostitute .

Some of you ought to be asking the apostle why he kept sending huge amount of money to a prostitute without proper monitoring, especially when he doesn't know her? The church should have a branch in Canada that will do the monitoring of church funds or did the apostle send the money to her in secret!?



Now the girl said so many things about being pregnant, marriage plans etc.. The pregnancy might be true but i don't think she will be able to prove it but her promise of marriage claim could be totally false or exaggerated.

Apostle Suleiman has a strong case against the lady, i.e the blackmail charge... The lady doesn't have a case according to law because even if they had any sexual relationship as long as it was consensual then there's nothing the court can do about it. But then it's an offence to promise someone marriage .

To constitute a breach of promise to marry, two elements are essential: First it must be proved to the satisfaction of the court that there was a promise to marry under the relevant law. Second, it must be shown that one party to the agreement, whether the man or the woman, has failed or refused to honour the obligation. When the above are established, the injured party may sue the other for breach of the contract and claim damages thereof, although no damages may be recovered unless his or her testimony is corroborated by some other material evidence in support of such promise in line with section 197 of the Evidence Act 2004. What constitutes material evidence is a question of law for the court to determine

The breach of promise to marry could either be in the form of non-performance or anticipatory breach. There may be non-performance where the time for performance is fixed, for example where parties agree on a particular date, the failure or refusal of one of the parties to turn up for the marriage constitutes a breach. Where no date is fixed, the law implies that the promise is one to marry within a reasonable time or at the request of one party. Where however, the promise is subject to a condition precedent, for example consent of parents, there can be no breach until the condition is satisfied or fulfilled.


The girl is using the marriage story just to convince the court that she was a victim and that's why it has been difficult for her to prove it but she has proved beyond reasonable doubt that she had an unholy relationship with apostle Suleiman..

Apostle Suleiman can end this thing if he will tender is passport and let's compare it to Otobo's own but then again the case is in court and it will amount to subjudice, the court of public opinion is left to wait and draw conclusions based on logic .


This apostle Suleiman scandal has really exposed the gullibility of many on this forum.. Am quite sad the way people think.. Religion has done more harm than good to our thinking.

Miss ishilove kindly consider all these jargons that i have listed and let me know your view. .GOD BLESS

that old lady is cursed, she always heaps insults on otobo even when she evidently has a case against fake apostle suleman. Holier than thou lady, those are the kind of ladies that apear righteous in public and a prostitute in private. Ishilove has no brain, all fat and pus.

There can never be smoke without fire. I wonder what pastor got 2do with wayward girl like OTOBO in d 1st place.....end time drama....haters of my post go hug transformer....

gan gan un.

TrumporIdie:
that old lady is cursed, she always heaps insults on otobo even when she evidently has a case against fake apostle suleman. Holier than thou lady, those are the kind of ladies that apear righteous in public and a prostitute in private. Ishilove has no brain, all fat and pus.

I agree that it was wrong for her to have called Otobo names and neither should we use derogatory words on apostle Suleiman too.

But also know that ishilove might have her reasons for not believing the girl and always on the side of the apostle.

Am hoping she will tell me those reasons and then maybe her reasons might also be logical too.

But i think ishilove has already made up her mind on who she wants to believe and that might be the reason she's always calling Otobo derogatory names and revering the apostle as a kind man. but i think she's a sensible woman and i hope she can be fair to Otobo .

Like I said this thing is all about logic, apostle Suleiman can make a mistake, he is human after all, David made mistakes, so also did Peter.. But they all repented and God forgave them.. And that's why i won't condemn apostle Suleiman.. .but many people on this forum actually think a pastor can't commit any sin.. .that's laughable.

We should learn to apologize for our sins and for letting people down, then we move on from there ..Bill Clinton's example .Infact if apostle Suleiman should do that then he would have gotten the utmost respect of sane minds in this country and not all these people blinded by religion

The apostle never denied sending her money so this actually proved nothing.

This may be why T.B Joshua does his charity giving on screen, before the whole world.

Ishilove:


Nope. I'm saying this so-called evidence isn't evidence because Apostle has already admitted transferring money to her on more than one occasion.


I don't get. Evidence of what, exactly?


Until she can provide solid evidence, her allegations remain allegations and barefaced lies. Is she not the same person who claimed Apostle met she and her mother in Warri with drinks for introduction? She later changed her story to 'I and my mother went to Apostle's office in Auchi.' Her story keeps undergoing change and modifications. Truth is constant, lies aren't.


Of course not.


When it is proven that he is guilty and he admits it.


Wrong. People are ready to believe the worst of most religious leaders, and will rather choose to crucify them at the drop of a hat.


True.

So you think when a poor person is accused of stealing and lynched/burnt alive without any court hearing, he's defended by people?

If anything, pastors have a multitude of "touch not my anointed" defense brigade that most wrongly accused will never have.

My question is just how many details of their liaison do people want to see before demanding a forensic investigation?

You cannot claim to be a spiritual leader with so much lurid details that he keeps denying. He should once and for all put an end to it.

Either by categorically proving the lady wrong or admitting it. Even blessed King David admitted his sin (konji wahala also) and repented. Succumbing to temptation, failing and weakness are part of human nature.

It appears people are just so embarrassed that they want the matter to go away. The truth seems irrelevant. As usual in Nigeria.

Oh..one more revelation below:

https://www.nairaland.com/3731030/stephanie-otobos-bbm-sex-chats

coolesmile:
What was he paying so much money for?

....he was paying tithe....

Lily4star:



Lol, I no watch one single episode of that thing o, na Nl make me know , doesn't just catch my interest how you spending the weekend?

Lol! I do watch it sometime at leisure,
The weekend, as usual. Got only Sunday to rest after ⛪.
What about you?

TrumporIdie:
My mother is cursed, she always heaps insults on otobo even when she evidently has a case against fake apostle suleman. Holier than thou lady, those are the kind of ladies that apear righteous in public and a prostitute in private. My mother has no brain, all fat and pus.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Why are you exposing your mother's dirty secrets?

distilledwalex:

What was the apostle buying thats he payed so much money for Will u just be realistic for once on this matter.. Ask those that knows both of them at the protea hotel ikeja what happened the last time your apostle lodged there... Calling her a mistake shows my mother who begat me is definitely one.. Cos like beget likes...

Nairaland children...exposing their poor, innocent parents to ridicule...