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Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by AbuSafwan(m): 3:22pm On Jan 04, 2010
WHO IS THE REVEALER OF THE QUR’AN: Possible Inspirational Sources of the Qur’an –
A Critical Analysis and Elimination Method
By Salimullah
Bayero University Kano, Nigeria.
Looking back at the previous post, it is evident that the powerful truth that was raised has defeated the baseless claims and allegations of the blind Christians in which they seek to deny the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) his inherent divine commission of being the God’s messenger. Thanks to God that all of our corroborations were derived from their bible. And today, we shall deal with another baseless claim concocted by the same blind Christians alleging that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an, or he copied it from the bible, or he was dictated by satan and e.t.c. Our very sincere intention is this new post is to examine, analyze and verify, with the aim of realizing the truth, to what extent is this baseless claim and allegation is true.

Definition of the noble Qur’an can be known in the following references:
{(Q26:192-196), Is29:12, Rev14:6-9, 1Cor13:910, Is28:10-11, Zep3:6

A possible inspirational source of the Qur’an according to the belief of both the believers and unbelievers is one of the following assumptions: Muhammad (pbuh), Arab Poets, Jews-Christian scholars, Man, Satan, Allah.

According to the Muslims only Allah (swt) is the original revealer and indeed, the inspirational source of the Qur’an. The other sources are mere utterances of the unbelievers. They believe that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an being dictated by either Jews-Christian scholars, a Man and or Satan. If there is any author of the Qur’an that would be Allah, the Almighty.

ELIMINATION METHOD

Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
 He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.
 He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.
 Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.
 The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.
 The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Jews-Christian scholars?
 Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

Arab Poets?
 The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
 The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
 The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
 Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40, Q:86:5-10.
 He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
 He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
 Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
 Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
 He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
 His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
 Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
 Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
 He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!
Submitted by Salimullah
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by theseeker2: 2:47pm On Jan 05, 2010
wonderful thread! Was thinking of opening something similar. May Allah reward you abundantly.  smiley
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by muhsin(m): 3:25pm On Jan 05, 2010
Salam,

Very good thread, brother Abu-Safwan.

May Allah reward you handsomely. Keep it up!
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by AbuZola3(m): 4:28pm On Jan 05, 2010
Allahu akbar
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by mazaje(m): 4:45pm On Jan 05, 2010
The slaves of allah are patting themselves on the back after a nonsensical write-up that is filled with nothing but make belief DELUSIONS. . . .Interesting. . . .
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by Nezan(m): 4:58pm On Jan 05, 2010
@ Post;


Muhammad?
Those who are saying prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the author of the Qur’an must be professional liars and therefore must be defeated based on the following rational proofs:
He was unlettered (Q29:48), so how can he be able to author a book.
This is an untenable reason. Who wrote the ones on the leaves that were eaten by the goats? Was he not dictating it to somebody? Go and meet an unlearned old man in your village and see how many textbooks he can dictate to you from his pool of knowledge, talkless of a plagiarist.

He is trustworthy (Q10:15-16), so how can he come and make lie to Allah (swt) when even his own enemies confirm his trustworthiness and honesty.

How can a trustworthy person be engaged in wars and plundering of other people’s assets, including wives? Even his step-son was never spared.

Jesus Mother was ranked above all women in the Qur’an (Q3:42), including the Prophet Muhammad’s mother and daughters. How can one write a complete book while downgrading his own family in it? This is illogical. He can only do that when it is a direct order from his, master or a divine revelation from his God. The fact that Jesus mother was ranked over prophet’s Muhammad mother indicates that he was not the author of the Qur’an, and by extension it confirms the revelation from God. Had it been Muhammad (pbuh) was the author he would have ranked his mother over all women. Be logical in your thoughts.

He just wanted to get sympathy and credibility from Christians. He also used this strategy on the arabs- accepting allah’s three daughters.

The author reproves himself (Q80:1, Q33:37, Q18:23-24, Q20:114). It is a factual reality that in the Qur’an the revealer has frequently proving himself as the author of the book. This means Qur’an knows his revealer and author On the contrary, the bible does not know his author and does not even know that his name is bible; for the very word ‘bible was missing throughout.

This is just mohammed’s words. He was just trying to play a fast one, BTW, how can a book written by one author (yet has contradictions) be compared with a book written by different authors over thousands of years, yet has a consistent message?

The scientific truths contained in the Qur’an make it impossible to say that a man who lived 14ooyrs ago, before the discovery of modern science could be able to grasp it. This clearly proves to us that it was the statement of the creator of the world (the very object in which makes his scientific discovery).
Thus, this claim was found wrong and eliminated.

Scientific truths such as a flat earth? Or mentioning of Samaritans before they existed? Or is it the talking of ants with king Solomon? Wake up from these lies, man.

Jews-Christian scholars?
Muhammad could neither read nor write (Q29:48), so how can he learn from Jews-Christian scholars? Nonsense. He was Arab man and their olden scriptures were in Jewish language. This claim also eliminated.

You mean most of the illiterates flooding your mosques are just going there? Are they not going to learn? Who told you an unlearned man can not do oral plagiarisation of a story he has heard?

Arab Poets?
The Arab themselves were challenged (Q2:23-24, Q10:37). If it was authored by Arab poets other groups of Arabs could also produce like it.
The presence of new style of beginning a speech in the Qur’an which was unknown to the tradition of Arab poets makes the impossibility of Qur’an being written by them.
The Arabs themselves need more explanations to understand the Qur’an.

How can they have produced it when mohammed was waging wars on all those who disagreed with him? He terrorised them into submission.

Man?
How can a man be the author of the very book in which he was degraded. Can a man author a book and at the same time discrediting himself in the book. Qur’an portrays man as thus:
Man was reproached for having Weakness: (Q22:73, Q30:40,  Q:86:5-10.
He was criticized of having the nature of despair, prodigality, exultance and boastfulness (Q10:12, Q11:9-10, Q17:83, Q:10:33&36, Q57:22-23).
He was blamed of Disbelief and Oppression (Q:14:34, Q43:15, Q80:17, Q6:116, Q12:103).
Being Quarrelsome and Opponent (Q:16:4, Q18:54).
Man also was unjust and ungrateful in the Qur’an (Q33:73, Q7:171, Q14:34 e.t.c).

How cans a man that assumed to have authored the Qur’an will criticize, castigate, disown, despise, and blame himself of the mentioned bad things and behaviours? That is highly illogical, irrational and impossible.

So if allah wrote the Koran, how come the verses eaten by the goats were never recovered? How can allah allow his words to be lost? How can he write satanic verses and later abrogate them? So allah can make mistakes? Mohammed just wanted to gain acceptability with men.

SATAN?
According to Qur’an Satan was described throughout in the following points:
He is a Sneaking Whisperer (Q114:4-5).
His followers incurred lost and torment (Q4:119-120, Q17:64).
Qur’an orders us to seek refuge in God against Satan (Q16:98).
Satan is powerless in the Qur’an (Q16:99).
He is being accursed throughout the pages of the Qur’an: *An open Enemy (Q2:168, 208, Q6:142, Q7:22, Q17:53, Q35:6, Q30:60); *A Deceiver (Q35:5); *Man’s Deserter (Q38:74-75); *An Arrogant (Q38:74-75).

How cans Satan, the alleged author of the Qur’an will accurse, disclaim and betray himself in the very book he was assumed to have authored. This too, is highly illogical, irrational and impossible. Had it been by the Satan he would have not been cursing and disclaiming himself in the book.

Because even satan can pretend to be an angel of light, so that if it were possible, he will deceive the very elect of God. I wonder why satan whispered satanic verses to mohammed.

WHY GOD (ALLAH)?
Several textual and rational proofs and evidence have been, and yet being citing for the arrogant and stubborn to believe in the true and perfect religion. For the sake of those stubborn unbelievers we are not going to cite the textual (Quranic verses) proofs but only the rationalistic and scientific ones. The scientific truth contained in the Qur’an since 1400yrs and only came to be discovered today by modern science and the mathematical composition of the Qur’an makes it the true divine revelation from Allah the Most High. And these are the only unique features of the Qur’an that no any other religious book shares with it. To invoke the words of Buccaile: “Scientific statements such as these are only one specific aspect of the Islamic revelation which the Bible does not share”. We have already discussed a lot on the scientific truth in the Qur’an in different posts and counter-posts by different brothers on this forum whereby we have wholly defeated the nonsensical claims by the opponents. I will now confine my argument to mathematical composition of the Qur’an to prove its reality of being the true and perfect revelation of God. DR. Tariq AL-SUWAIDAN made exposed the following powerful discovery on the Qur’anic mathematical miracle:

How can allah mistake the spherical world he purportedly to be flat if he was the one that wrote the Koran? Yes, a real koranic scientific miracle: the sun sets in a murky spring and the earth is flat (but can be laid on spherical eggs, courtesy:olabowale).

Al-bahar (Sea) mentioned in the whole of the holy Qur’an = 32. An Al-bar (Land) =13. The statistic is as follows:

Al-bahar (Sea) = 32
Al_bar (Land) = 13

If we add up the total words of both
"sea" and "land" we get 45.
Now if we do a simple calculation:
32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111% (percentage of water)
13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888% (percentage of land)
Above is what we know today as the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. The same conclusion is reached by modern science. ALLAHU AKBAR, WHAT A BOOK OF GOD!

Show me the koranic verse that declare the percentage of water to land instead of jubilating on coincidences (which I even doubt the veracity).

Below are some more examples of some Words Mentioned in the Quran:

Al-Dunya (world) =115,
Al-Akhira (hereafter) =115,

Al-Mala'ikah (Angels) = 88
Al-Shayateen (Satan) = 88

Al-Hayat (Life) = 145
Al-Maut (Death) = 145
Al-Rajul (Man) = 24,
Al-Mar'ha (Women) = 24

And what do the above numbers indicate, dude.

Al-Shahr (Month) = 12 (the total number of months in universal calendar)
Al-Yauom (Day) = 365 (the total number of days in a year)

Was it not the Gregorian calendar that gave us these? You want to smuggle the Gregorian calendar into the Koran again? Don’t you know the calendar existed before mohammed?

What’s more! The Heretical Rashad Khalifa also made a powerful discovery of mathematical composition of the Qur’an. He was led astray due to boast of his discovery. The standard mathematical miracle of the Qur’an is that: “OVER IT IS NINETEEN (19)” {Q74:30}. What does it mean?

Item 1: The First Commandment is coded by 19: “La – Elahe – Ella – Allah” (there is no deity except Allah): (Numerical values corresponding each Arabic letter is given below)
30 1 – 1 30 5 – 1 30 1 – 1 30 30 5
= 30113051301130305
= 19 x ……

Item 2: The Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) is so special and unique. It consists of exactly 19 Arabic letters.

Item 3: There are 114 Basmalahs in the Quran and this also entails 114 chapters in the Qur’an. It is interesting to note that 144 = 19 x 6

Item 4: The first revelation of the Quran (Sura 96:1-5) it exactly consists of 19 Arabic words and 76 letters: 76 = 19 x 4.

Item 5: The last revelation of the Quran (Sura 110) consists of 19 Arabic words. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of 19 Arabic letters.

Item 6: Finally, the total number of the Arabic letters in the Qur’an is 97,489. And 97489 = 19 x 5131.
This last item (item 6) is my own personal discovery in my attempts to prove wrong, some heretical ideas of Rashad. These are only a minute.

LET THEM SPEAK AND WILL HERE MORE LIKE EVER BEOFRE!!!!

And what is the significance of the number 19? Is it a magical wand? I know muslims believes in marabouts, is it a magic number for marabouts?
Re: Who Is The Revealer Of The Qur’an: by Nobody: 6:24pm On Jan 05, 2010
Nezan:

@ Post;

This is an untenable reason. Who wrote the ones on the leaves that were eaten by the goats? Was he not dictating it to somebody? Go and meet an unlearned old man in your village and see how many textbooks he can dictate to you from his pool of knowledge, talkless of a plagiarist.


How can a trustworthy person be engaged in wars and plundering of other people’s assets, including wives? Even his step-son was never spared.


He just wanted to get sympathy and credibility from Christians. He also used this strategy on the arabs- accepting allah’s three daughters.


This is just mohammed’s words. He was just trying to play a fast one, BTW, how can a book written by one author (yet has contradictions) be compared with a book written by different authors over thousands of years, yet has a consistent message?


Scientific truths such as a flat earth? Or mentioning of Samaritans before they existed? Or is it the talking of ants with king Solomon? Wake up from these lies, man.

You mean most of the illiterates flooding your mosques are just going there? Are they not going to learn? Who told you an unlearned man can not do oral plagiarisation of a story he has heard?

How can they have produced it when mohammed was waging wars on all those who disagreed with him? He terrorised them into submission.

So if allah wrote the Koran, how come the verses eaten by the goats were never recovered? How can allah allow his words to be lost? How can he write satanic verses and later abrogate them? So allah can make mistakes? Mohammed just wanted to gain acceptability with men.

Because even satan can pretend to be an angel of light, so that if it were possible, he will deceive the very elect of God. I wonder why satan whispered satanic verses to mohammed.

How can allah mistake the spherical world he purportedly to be flat if he was the one that wrote the Koran? Yes, a real koranic scientific miracle: the sun sets in a murky spring and the earth is flat (but can be laid on spherical eggs, courtesy:olabowale).

Show me the koranic verse that declare the percentage of water to land instead of jubilating on coincidences (which I even doubt the veracity).

And what do the above numbers indicate, dude.

Was it not the Gregorian calendar that gave us these? You want to smuggle the Gregorian calendar into the Koran again? Don’t you know the calendar existed before mohammed?

And what is the significance of the number 19? Is it a magical wand? I know muslims believes in marabouts, is it a magic number for marabouts?






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