One of the most popularly discussed topics on the Nigerian social media platform today is it's possible division. I hear it been discussed left and right and to be honest I'm sick and tired of it.

Should Biafra be allowed free reign as another country?

My opinion? I couldn't care less. I remain indifferent to these arguments. And I honestly don't know why they are stopping them. If they are so desperate to have their own country fine. Everyone is free to choose but no one is free from the consequences of their actions. There are always consequences from every action whether good or bad.

All I know is that, with or without them, Nigeria can and will still be great. In short there would be less pressure on resources and make it easier for Nigeria to get rid of corruption and monitor the country better.

No offence but you claim you want your own country and all yet you are found everywhere in Nigeria.

I read a post from an Igbo man today who said a lot of enlightening things about Biafra and how he didn't support the idea of it.https://www.nairaland.com/3753648/why-think-biafra-may-not
. But one thing with people is that they find it hard to see and accept the truth even if it drops from the sky and hits them on the face.

Nigeria in this critical stage have more important things to face than dividing their time and resources on things like this. If they want it so bad let them go and try their luck in building a country and see how 'easy' it is.

I pray for Nigeria and know there's hope for it.

Op if you can tell me one thing in this present day nigeria that is working the way it should, i will support one nigeria. I'm waiting for your reply

Break up!

split into 5

izombie:
Op if you can tell me one thing in this present day nigeria that is working the way it should, i will support one nigeria. I'm waiting for your reply

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

Nigeria will be great. Blah! Blah!blah! Your fathers once said it. Now you are saying it. That means your children will also say it. Dont you guys get tired?
You keep doing same thing and expecting a different result. Nigeria was created by the British. Funny enough, the same British people are doing things in sensible ways by allowing referendum. Shouldn't you be like them.

Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

You cant eradicate curruption just like that. You need a system to drive patriotism in people. Only a right sytem can kill corruption.

Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

I guess you did not understand the question. What exactly has been working in Nigeria since independence?

Dissuade your mind from this administration so we can have an objective appraisal of an entity called Nigeria.

I'm not an expert in law, but i believe that something could be done about it. I am neither for or against them, rather than creating a separation in the country by instigating hate amongst tribes, take the case up to a reputable and powerful international court that has an affiliation with the us or britain. If the verdict given is favourable towards ur course, Nigeria as a third world country would be compelled to yield due to the fear of sanctions from those powerful nations.

deedeedee1:

You cant eradicate curruption just like that. You need a system to drive patriotism in people. Only a right sytem can kill corruption.

Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.

This contraption will never work until it breaks.

Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

Op no one can fight corruption in Nigeria with the system on ground
The foundation is faulty
It's not about PDP or APC
It's not about Buhari or GEJ
All Nigerian politicians are thieves.. No exception
There is no existing institution that is designed to check our public officers
It's free for all

We need a change from the status quo
We need to restructure to survive
We need to go back to the regions and make it viable able
This system of robbing peter to pay Paul
It's making the states lazy and unproductive

If the parasites who only think that only way to survive is to wait for niger delta oil money in the name of monthly allocation cannot heed the call to restructure

Then let's Balkanize the nation
To ur tents o Israel

Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

do not be deceived, there's nothing like fight against corruption but fight against opposition. None of our present & past politician is saint.
Check the history of self acclaimed man of integrity(Buhari) for you to know that he is fantastically corrupt.
Nigeria was designed by Britain the way it is to satisfy their hiding agenda.
Nigeria is never 1 & can never be 1.
We need to go our separate ways because large percentage of Nigerians don't enjoy this scam called a country except the minority polithiefians.
The oppression from northerners over the rest geopolitical zone is alarming & will not stop unless we go our separate way.

deedeedee1:
Nigeria will be great. Blah! Blah!blah! Your fathers once said it. Now you are saying it. That means your children will also say it. Dont you guys get tired?
You keep doing same thing and expecting a different result. Nigeria was created by the British. Funny enough, the same British people are doing things in sensible ways by allowing referendum. Shouldn't you be like them.

Well first of all, Nigerian never had slaves to help them build their country.

You think forming a new country would make it easier? How many years do you think its gonna take before its gonna get easier?

Was Nigeria created or colonized or created by the British? Our main problems are those who having been misleading and misusing our funds. Look at the story of Ghana, why did they actually start becoming developed? By creating new country or by getting rid of the main problem?

Among all tribes corruption exists so don't think you'll overcome this difficulty without solving the main problem causing it. Again I don't care if Nigeria choose to separate or not. All I know is that what remains of it will succeed.

Angel196:


Well first of all, Nigerian never had slaves to help them build their country.

You think forming a new country would make it easier? How many years do you think its gonna take before its gonna get easier?

Was Nigeria created or colonized or created by the British? Our main problems are those who having been misleading and misusing our funds. Look at the story of Ghana, why did they actually start becoming developed? By creating new country or by getting rid of the main problem?

Among all tribes corruption exists so don't think you'll overcome this difficulty without solving the main problem causing it. Again I don't care if Nigeria choose to separate or not. All I know is that what remains of it will succeed.

You need to be realistic for once, please read your history textbook to have clear knowledge about this scam called Nigeria.

I asked you a question on this thread of yours, https://www.nairaland.com/2734459/ten-things-gained-gejs-term#55822906 & am waiting for your reply.

modik:


I guess you did not understand the question. What exactly has been working in Nigeria since independence?

Dissuade your mind from this administration so we can have an objective appraisal of an entity called Nigeria.

It's not about the administration but about their own little effort in solving our main problem. Have you ever heard of so many money stolen or recovered in Nigeria?

The way in moving a country forward is not looking for the good aspects of it but looking for and solving those problems that is taking it backwards. That's what Ghanaians did and I guess it's one of the reasons their economy is looking better than ours.

Angel196:
Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.

Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country. Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(especially in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are. Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidences that he is corrupt? The answer is no!!! I definately wont!! Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money? Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption. That is how igbo country will also look like.

Angel196:


Well first of all, Nigerian never had slaves to help them build their country.

You think forming a new country would make it easier? How many years do you think its gonna take before its gonna get easier?

Was Nigeria created or colonized or created by the British? Our main problems are those who having been misleading and misusing our funds. Look at the story of Ghana, why did they actually start becoming developed? By creating new country or by getting rid of the main problem?

Among all tribes corruption exists so don't think you'll overcome this difficulty without solving the main problem causing it. Again I don't care if Nigeria choose to separate or not. All I know is that what remains of it will succeed.

Actually fifty percent of ghanians are ethnically akan.

Angel196:


Well first of all, Nigerian never had slaves to help them build their country.

You think forming a new country would make it easier? How many years do you think its gonna take before its gonna get easier?

Was Nigeria created or colonized or created by the British? Our main problems are those who having been misleading and misusing our funds. Look at the story of Ghana, why did they actually start becoming developed? By creating new country or by getting rid of the main problem?

Among all tribes corruption exists so don't think you'll overcome this difficulty without solving the main problem causing it. Again I don't care if Nigeria choose to separate or not. All I know is that what remains of it will succeed.

You get it wrong at some point, corruption doesn't stop at only stealing. Favouritism/partiality is part of corruption.
Murderous Fulani herdsmen haveBenue farmers & women have been killed times without number yet no arrest has been made so far just because the their life patron & kinsman is the president of this country.
Do you think that Nigerians can just go to Cameron & started killing camerounian anyhow without resistance? The senseless killings from those murderous herdsmen will be resisted if we are not one Nigerian because the security outfit of a country under which Benue stare fall will definitely resist the madness from those murderous herdsmen

Unless we split, common man will continue to be oppressed & suffer. The killings of other tribe by Fulani starts from the days of Tafawa Balewa(Fulani man) & he supported the killings just as we are witnessing under the present administration.

deedeedee1:
Madam, we cant kill corruption in nigeria. Why? Because we live in a indigenous ethnically diverse country. Everybody in nigeria is a tribalist(mostly in terms of interest). We all will defend our tribesmen no matter how bad they are. Now let me give you an example: I am yoruba but imagine if osinbajo is the president of the country and he is charged with corruption, whereby he will have to resign from his positon or get impeached for the vp to take over. Now imagine if such vp to take place is not yoruba, will i support the impeachment of osinbajo even though there are evidence that he is corrupt? The answer is no!!! I definately wont!! Why? Because he is yoruba and i am also yoruba. Now if yoruba had their own country would osinbajo have the gods to steal money? Now this is why monoethnic countries have very little corruption. That is how igbo country will also look like.

I tell you it will still happen. Cause about from tribalism there is religious favoritism. If you feel being made a single tribe is what can make a country great then so be it. Some single tribe state are being governed by a person of that tribe, but he still embezzles and goes scot free.

jjjjj2017:

You get it wrong at some point, corruption doesn't stop at only stealing. Favouritism/partiality is part of corruption.
Murderous Fulani herdsmen haveBenue farmers & women have been killed times without number yet no arrest has been made so far just because the their life patron & kinsman is the president of this country.
Do you think that Nigerians can just go to Cameron & started killing camerounian anyhow without resistance? The senseless killings from those murderous herdsmen will be resisted if we are not one Nigerian because the security outfit of a country under which Benue stare fall will definitely resist the madness from those murderous herdsmen

Unless we split, common man will continue to be oppressed & suffer. The killings of other tribe by Fulani starts from the days of Tafawa Balewa(Fulani man) & he supported the killings just as we are witnessing under the present administration.

Seriously? So in other words Buhari is allowing killings just because it's done by his kinsmen? Really? I grew up in the north and this issue stated way before Buhari's administration. I left the north during Goodluck's regime because of none stop violence and killings between two tribes, none of which was Good luck's tribe. What can you say about that?

Angel196:


Seriously? So in other words Buhari is allowing killings just because it's done by his kinsmen? Really? I grew up in the north and this issue stated way before Buhari's administration. I left the north during Goodluck's regime because of none stop violence and killings between two tribes, none of which was Good luck's tribe. What can you say about that?

Kindly share me links where Buhari takes an action to curb the killings.
Please, dont mention GEJ name here because he's not part of the discussion here.
I am a Yoruba man & can tell you authoritatively that corruption rose to the highest during OBJ 1999 regime.

Angel196:


I tell you it will still happen. Cause about from tribalism there is religious favoritism. If you feel being made a single tribe is what can make a country great then so be it. Some single tribe state are being governed by a person of that tribe, but he still embezzles and goes scot free.

Just recently, south korea(a monoethnic society) impeached their president. If such a thing happened in nigeria, the hausas and fulanis will side buhari. Now tell me is this a country? We need to stop ignoring the truth. Nigeria cannot eradicate corruption. Corruption exists in every country but suppressing it is what an oduduwa nation will achieve.

Angel196:
Yes it isn't that easy, thank goodness you know that too. Have we ever really fought to eradicate corruption in the past before? We never cared enough to because we probably feel it didn't matter to our development. But the the truth is, it did and it does.

And Biafra wouldn't be free from corruption either cause it exists in their part too. Do you really think building a new country is easier than trying to fix the current one? Then I must say, you have a very difficult task ahead of you, which might even be harder than making Nigeria great.

Nigeria was never built to work. Do you need a soothsayer to tell you that?
What do you mean has corruption been fought before? The EFCC was created by Buhari? EFCC (just like other institutions) is a federal witch-hunting entity...Only works when and where the government wants.

If institutions are not independent and well-structured nothing will work. And this has been the situation since independence.

Angel196:


Seriously? So in other words Buhari is allowing killings just because it's done by his kinsmen? Really? I grew up in the north and this issue stated way before Buhari's administration. I left the north during Goodluck's regime because of none stop violence and killings between two tribes, none of which was Good luck's tribe. What can you say about that?

Northerner killed a pastor wife in kaduna & abuja, the killers now walks around the country as a free.
Northerner kidnapped & impregnate Ese Oruru but the culprist is now a free man.
Yoruba & Northerner clashed in Ile-Ife, 21 Yoruba men including a monarch were arrested while 0 northerner were arrested.
Look, the injustice in the land is unbearable all in the name of one Nigeria.

I just want to know, according to these fools, what proof has been shown that any derivative of nigeria would be better than nigeria?

1. Nigeria has africa's largest economy.
2. Nigeria dominates africas film and multimedia industry
3. Nigeria dominates africa's music industry
4. Nigeria is producing many of africa's billionaires and millionaires.
5. Nigeria also has the largest middle class in africa

So my question is, give me factual, hard proof, that any Nigerian derivative would be better than nigeria in all of the ways listed. If not, just stop being stupid and blaming the federal government on your failures. I've seen more and more failures blame the government for why they're failures. And they will blame the new government if nigeria were to split. You don't like leaders? Vote them out, go to their office and ask them face to face why they're doing such a shit job. Do anything you want, but don't sit here and act like you're not the reason they're in office.

I've seen people turn into millionaires in the last 5 yrs in nigeria alone. There are a LOT of business and start up opporunities in Nigeria. Get off of your ass and work. The government isn't responsible for feeding you or making you successful, others are doing it in nigeria, why can't you? I'm sick of these crybabies and failures consistently blaming everyone else but themselves. As if our political leaders are kings that just walked into office unannounced.

jjjjj2017:

Kindly share me links where Buhari takes an action to curb the killings.
Please, dont mention GEJ name here because he's not part of the discussion here.
I am a Yoruba man & can tell you authoritatively that corruption rose to the highest during OBJ 1999 regime.

I am also a Yoruba lady and I'm not being sentimental. You ask me not to mention his regime, why not? That was a problem too that needed attention and nothing was done about it. In fact I lost some of my friends and classmates then. I almost lost my life and my family's in that violence. Do you expect me to blame the President then that he was favouring one tribe when none was actually his?

I never claimed a particular regime was perfect but don't make assumptions just because he's a Fulani.
There are many other tribes killing each other that we might not even know of. Before Buhari's regime we've been hearing of Fulani herdsmen, why wasn't anything done about it then?

jjjjj2017:

Northerner killed a pastor wife in kaduna & abuja, the killers now walks around the country as a free.
Northerner kidnapped & impregnate Ese Oruru but the culprist is now a free man.
Yoruba & Northerner clashed in Ile-Ife, 21 Yoruba men including a monarch were arrested while 0 northerner were arrested.
Look, the injustice in the land is unbearable all in the name of one Nigeria.

Do you have something against the northerners?

Is it only northerners that have been killing and fighting? Did you read about Modakeke and IFE's war? Aren't they both Yoruba's? Why did they fight? Don't delude yourself that being the same tribe will stop anything. It wouldn't cause people will just find another reason to create favoritism.

izombie:
Op if you can tell me one thing in this present day nigeria that is working the way it should, i will support one nigeria. I'm waiting for your reply

dude everything is working as it should. it is the people who are lazy.

philosophie:
split into 5

why not 774

Angel196:

Well for one they are trying really hard to fight the corruption which I'm sure everyone knows is the reason we are in this situation today instead of lying about corruption not being in Nigeria. If we can eradicate corruption from Nigeria completely then the toughest part of developing Nigeria is solved.

they're losing.
corruption can never be removed completely
corruption not the problem.
people are

deedeedee1:
Nigeria will be great. Blah! Blah!blah! Your fathers once said it. Now you are saying it. That means your children will also say it. Dont you guys get tired?
You keep doing same thing and expecting a different result. Nigeria was created by the British. Funny enough, the same British people are doing things in sensible ways by allowing referendum. Shouldn't you be like them.

haha you actually think they let their ppl vote. you're so cute