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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:27pm On Jul 03, 2017
johnw74:


ac hor ladey, while I'm waiting on your reply, to if you want me to post more scriptures besides John 1:1 showing that Jesus is God, here are some Yahovah and Jesus verses for you to deny:

Yahovah
Psa 89:9 Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them.

Jesus
Mar 4:39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
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Yahovah:
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Jesus:
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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Yahovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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Yahovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


Joh 8:58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:45pm On Jul 03, 2017
Let me reiterate Philippians 2:9-11 that you quoted above as this is crucial to our discussion.

"Wherefore God also has highly exalted him and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"

All (including cults and false religions) if they don't bow now will eventually bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Those who make this confession now will be saved. Why wait till you are forced against your will to bow and confess the name of Jesus as your Lord and Saviour?

cc: Barristter07, achorladey, CAPTIVATOR, pressplay411, frosbel2, milkymesh, uzuede4

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:56pm On Jul 03, 2017
rottennaija:


Only those they labelled 'apostate' that really reveal the errors in their reasoning. The reason is because they have been there, learnt their ways, then saw the errors in their line of reasoning and left.

That is Why JWs fear them and avoid all sort of contact with them, repeatedly enforce by their top echelons. The reason is very simply, those labelled apostate can point to the errors in their reasoning and can easily awaken any JWs.

Good point. smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:00pm On Jul 03, 2017
CAPTIVATOR:


A woman is not equal in authority with a man, She is under the authority of a man.

Are you saying a woman regardless of whether she is married to the man or not is not equal to the man?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:14pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Let me reiterate Philippians 2:9-11 that you quoted above as this is crucial to our discussion.

"Wherefore God also has highly exalted him and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"

All (including cults and false religions) if they don't bow now will eventually bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Those who make this confession now will be saved. Why wait till you are forced against your will to bow and confess the name of Jesus as your Lord and Saviour?

cc: Barristter07, achorladey, CAPTIVATOR, pressplay411, frosbel2, milkymesh, uzuede4

OLAADEGBU


Every sane Christian accepts Jesus as Lord and His Savior . that in anyway doesn't mean he is our God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 says it better , For us ( True Christians ) there is one God, The FATHER . [b] (not trinity ) .
[/b] and one Lord , Christ Jesus )



You can choose to believe in trinity and remain a False Christian .

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:16pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


OLAADEGBU


Every sane Christian accepts Jesus as Lord and His Savior . that in anyway doesn't mean he is our God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 says it better , For us ( True Christians ) there is one God, The FATHER .
and one Lord , Christ Jesus )



You can choose to believe in trinity to remain a False Christian .

Now answer this question. Is Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Saviour? Can you say categorically that Jesus Christ is Lord? undecided

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:26pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Now answer this question. Is Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Saviour? Can you say categorically that Jesus Christ is Lord? undecided

Very obvious You clearly didn't read my earlier Response to you. , If you did you wont have ask a question that's already answered.

again ,

" Every sane Christian accepts Jesus as Lord and His Savior . that in anyway doesn't mean he is our God . 1 Corinthians 8:6 says it better , For us ( True Christians ) there is one God, The FATHER .

(not trinity ) .

and one Lord , Christ Jesus )
You can choose to believe in trinity and remain a False Christian .


"

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:32pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying a woman regardless of whether she is married to the man or not is not equal to the man?

Scripture said.



' a man is the Head of a woman , the Head of Christ too is God ' 1 Cor 11:3 . If you have problem with this, check your beliefs

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:32pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


Very obvious You clearly didn't read my earlier Response to you. , If you did you wont have ask a question that's already answered.

again ,

" Every sane Christian accepts Jesus as Lord and His Savior . that in anyway doesn't mean he is our God . 1 Corinthians 8:6 says it better , For us ( True Christians ) there is one God, The FATHER .

(not trinity ) .

and one Lord , Christ Jesus )
You can choose to believe in trinity and remain a False Christian .


"


You said "every sane Christian" but does that imply that you are a Christian? Do you also want me to imply that you are sane if you are a Christian? Why can't you simply answer the question instead of prevaricating? Is Jesus Christ Lord? undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:34pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


Scripture said.



' a man is the Head of a woman , the Head of Christ too is God ' 1 Cor 11:3 . If you have problem with this, check your beliefs


In what capacity is a man the head of a woman? Have you ever worked in or lived in a country where a woman is the head? undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:36pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU

OLAADEGBU:


You said "every sane Christian" but does that imply that you are a Christian? Do you also want me to imply that you are sane if you are a Christian? Why can't you simply answer the question instead of prevaricating? Is Jesus Christ Lord? undecided

I can see you have a problem with comprehension, Okay let me simplify it for you; Jesus Christ is My Lord , The Father ( Yahweh) is my God - 1 Corinthians 8:6

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:39pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


In what capacity is a man the head of a woman? Have you ever worked in or lived in a country where a woman is the head? undecided

Firstly, do you agree with 1 Corinthians 11:3 that A Man is the Head of a woman , and God is the head of Christ ?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:50pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:
OLAADEGBU



I can see you have a problem with comprehension, Okay let me simplify it for you; Jesus Christ is My Lord , The Father ( Yahweh) is my God - 1 Corinthians 8:6

I didn't say you should quote it changing and personalising the words. Say it meaningully and thoughtfully that Jesus Christ is your personal Lord and Saviour and shout it, sing it loud and long! cheesy

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:53pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


Firstly, do you agree with 1 Corinthians 11:3 that A Man is the Head of a woman , and God is the head of Christ ?

And I asked you to qualify the capacity you think the Scripture was referring the man as the head of a woman there.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:58pm On Jul 03, 2017
achorladey:

What a question!!!! You don't have to stoop so low to ask such a question. You can go and ask your personal Lord and Saviour what John 17:3 means after all he(Jesus) was praying to the only true God no be me talk am, Na Jesus talk so for John 17:3

Since I am stooping so low answer the question na. Just answer is Jesus a true or a false god?
When you don't have answer you start quoting different verses and still not answering the question
I am yet to see a jw that will answer this particular question.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 2:09pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:

Hairyrapunzel



The same Divine nature that Humans will have ? ( 2 Pet 1:4 ) Hehehehehe , a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Do you agree that those humans are equal to God ?

Do you even read your bible? Read 2 Peter 1 the whole chapter. You think you can just bring out first part of one verse and talk anyhow? Read your bible again
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 2:13pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:

Hairyrapunzel



Still a very illogical assertion, Are you aware that humans will be Partakers of the DIVINE NATURE ? ( 2 Pet 1:4) Does this mean they are equal to God ?

Thank God you said humans will be partakers. Jesus is not a partaker. The nature of Jesus is divine. The verse sef you are quoting out of context and why do you people like quoting verses out of context?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 2:22pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


I didn't say you should quote it changing and personalising the words. Say it meaningully and thoughtfully that Jesus Christ is your personal Lord and Saviour and shout it, sing it loud and long! cheesy

Are you okay ? Read your post and see how crazy and unthoughtful it is, , Let me leave your dogmatic mind with Matt 7:22,23. There is more that is required than that Lip Service .

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 2:32pm On Jul 03, 2017
Hairyrapunzel:


The nature of Jesus is divine

grin grin grin mi o le rerin ooo


and according to 2 Pet 1:4, humans will have the DIVINE NATURE ? Yes or No

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:37pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


Are you okay ? Read your post and see how crazy and unthoughtful it is, , Let me leave your dogmatic mind with Matt 7:22,23. There is more that is required than that Lip Service .

You need to confess the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and then He will become your Saviour. I don't mean giving lip service.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 2:41pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


You need to confess the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and then He will become your Saviour. I don't mean giving lip service.

I have done that already from the Heart! I don't need your validation nor the lip service you are demanding . Let Matt 7:22,23 sink into your mind

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 3:00pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


grin grin grin mi o le rerin ooo


and according to 2 Pet 1:4, humans will have the DIVINE NATURE ? Yes or No


NO
2 Pet 1: 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

There is no place in the bible where they said humans will have a divine nature. Like I said read your bible ask the holy spirit for guidance.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:01pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


I have done that already from the Heart! I don't need your validation nor the lip service you are demanding . Let Matt 7:22,23 sink into your mind

Good. Now read this and let it sink in:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).

This mystery has been revealed to all who have received Christ as Lord and Saviour. Has the mystery been revealed to you?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Peacefullove: 3:05pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Good. Know read this and let it sink in:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).

This mystery has been revealed to all who has received Christ as Lord and Saviour. Has the mystery been revealed to you?

To a Catholic, you just proved Mary is the mother of God. if God was manifest in FLESH, who is the Mother of God ?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Peacefullove: 3:08pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


You need to confess the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and then He will become your Saviour. I don't mean giving lip service.

Many lip service this days, before you criticize the Witness people, Y'all need to know u are wrong on many things too

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:09pm On Jul 03, 2017
Peacefullove:


To a Catholic, you just proved Mary is the mother of God. if God was manifest in FLESH, who is the Mother of God ?

False religions would always find a way to twist the Scriptures to appease their gods/goddesses. Even Muslims think that their prophet is the one prophecied to come in the Bible. undecided
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Peacefullove: 3:14pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


False religions would always find a way to twist the Scriptures

You must belong to False religion then, Since thats exactly what you just did to 1 Timothy 3 vs 16 . Manipulated verse.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 3:26pm On Jul 03, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Good. Now read this and let it sink in:

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Timothy 3:16).

This mystery has been revealed to all who has received Christ as Lord and Saviour. Has the mystery been revealed to you?

grin grin grin

God was manifest in flesh and God died right ? .

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 3:31pm On Jul 03, 2017
Peacefullove:


To a Catholic, you just proved Mary is the mother of God. if God was manifest in FLESH, who is the Mother of God ?

Very good question

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 3:32pm On Jul 03, 2017
Peacefullove:


Many lip service this days, before you criticize the Witness people, Y'all need to know u are wrong on many things too

Like the witnesses are right on many things right?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 3:35pm On Jul 03, 2017
Barristter07:


grin grin grin

God was manifest in flesh and God died right ? .

When those 7 men in new York have thought you something wrong about ones beliefs you tend to ask this question
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:36pm On Jul 03, 2017
Peacefullove:


You must belong to False religion then, Since thats exactly what you just did to 1 Timothy 3 vs 16 . Manipulated verse.

How did I manipulate the verse? All I did was to quote the verse and ask if this mystery has been revealed to you.

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