Dear backslider,

Brother

Posted by backslider
what i am saying is that You are quoting the bible and you don't know what you are saying this makes me understand why you claim you were a Christian and you don't even know Scripture.
I can't help you with this Though you need to humbly ask the Holy Ghost to teach. Ask like a babe (that is Humble)

What have I been quoting that has never been from the bible?

About Holy Ghost teaching me bible

Christians do say that one need to pray for God's guidance in order to be able to interprete the bible, but Peter made us known that you dont have to go through all that pain in order to read the bible.

Read brother

2nd Peter 1v20: knowing this first, that no prophesy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation

Let me leave you with this quote

Quran 6v125: And whosoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whosoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted as if he is climbing up to the sky. Thus Allah puts the wrath on those who believe not.
I pray that may Allah's wrath never be on

Islam is the religion before Allah. The Noah's ark of today, embark on it and be saved.

Salam

@babs

you just Quoted the bible now bros !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ohhhhhhhhh

With his own interpretation too.

read the beautiful encouraging word of God

2Pe 1:16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty
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2Pe 1:17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

2Pe 1:18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

2Pe 1:19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed,* which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,*

2Pe 1:21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God* spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

read 20 and 21 babs and perhaps you'll understand it.
You claim to have been a 'Christian',what church did you attend please?

babyosisi:

You claim to have been a 'Christian',what church did you attend please?

That was just a shakara claim that didn't go anywhere. From his round-about arguments, any Christian will know that he never was one but just simply quoting verses here and there.

@ backslider,

Brother
Am very sorry but I have to give you what you believe in.

@Babyosis,

I laugh when anytime I read christians posting verses supporting their claims, they never knew that most verses contradict each other.

1. What do the verses (20 & 21) mean to you?

You quoted from the letter of Simon Peter where he said that a voice came from heaven saying that, 'this is my beloved son with whom I am well pleased. Peter said they all heard the voice meaning that it must be God speaking huh.

Posted by babyosis
2Pe 1:17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

2Pe 1:18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

Now read the verse below and tell me who to believe between Simon Peter and Jesus

John 5 v37: And the Father who sent has himself borne witness to me.HIS VOICE YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD, his form you have never seen,

2. Which do we hold on to?

Funny People

@babs787,

babs787:

I laugh when anytime I read christians posting verses supporting their claims, they never knew that most verses contradict each other.

'Contradictions' are mechanically deviced when you deliberately insert ideas into texts, and then take those texts out of contexts.

babs787:

1. What do the verses (20 & 21) mean to you?

You quoted from the letter of Simon Peter where he said that a voice came from heaven saying that, 'this is my beloved son with whom I am well pleased. Peter said they all heard the voice meaning that it must be God speaking huh.

The word "all" is one of your devices deliberately inserted into the text so that you could try to find a 'contradiction'. Peter never said "they all heard the voice"; and you only have to read the context of the verse to see who he was referring to by "we."

2 Pet. 1:18 "And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain."

What incident was Peter referring to here? The context is clear that he was pointing to the Transfiguration on the mountain in Matthew 17 and Mark 9

"And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. . ." (Mark 9:2; see also Matt. 17:1-2).

It was on that mountain that they heard the voice which said: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him" (Matt. 17:5). When Peter recounted the incidence in 2 Pet. 1:17-18, he used "we" as referring to himself, James and John. He never said that they all heard the voice.

babs787:

Now read the verse below and tell me who to believe between Simon Peter and Jesus

John 5 v37: And the Father who sent has himself borne witness to me.HIS VOICE YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD, his form you have never seen,

2. Which do we hold on to?

In John 5 v37, Jesus was not addressing His disciples, but rather the Jews who persecuted Him. Read from verse 16: "And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day."

Besides, this event of Jesus addressing the Jews is most likely to have occured around the Temple (compare vs. 14); and not on the mountain.

The 'contradiction' you deliberately whipped up here is disingenuous at best - and by inserting the word "all" where it never was mentioned in 2 Pet. 1:17-18, only exposes your antics.

@Babs

I told you for the sake of Argument that I want to rule that suppose the bible is total Incorrect can we without Quoting the Bible Argue on The Quran , You keep on Quoting the bible.

I am very happy for this so there is salvation knocking at your doorstep the joy that it will soon enter your innermost chamber is Just nigh.

Quran 41 v 9 Contradicts 41 v 10 from your argument.

Dear brother backslider,


Please I have explained to you and I dont think I can explain in any other way again, there is no contradiction there brother.

@syrup,

If you resort to being funny, babs will not hesitate too.

1. You claimed there are no contradictions, please explain the below to me

a. who carry the cross to golgota?
 i.  Jesus carried it by himself (johjn 19v17)
 ii. Simon carried it (mathew 27v32, mark 15v21-22)

b. who put the vinegar in to his mouth

i.   One person put it (mark 15v36, mathew 27v47)
  ii They put it into his mouth (john 19v28-30)

c. Who hold the legs of jesus? ?
  i.   The two mary (mathew 28v1-9)
 ii   No marry was allowed to touch him (john 20v16-17)

etc,

2. In john 5v37, were his disciples not present?

Dear brother backslider,

I have been using the bible for you because if I quote the Quran for you, you will never believe me, so I have to use what you believe in.

Am already saved, its you that needs to be saved. You have read the story of Jesus in the Quran, telling you that we muslims believe in him.

Salam

babs787:

Dear brother backslider,


Please I have explained to you and I don't think I can explain in any other way again, there is no contradiction there brother.

@syrup,

If you resort to being funny, babs will not hesitate too.

1. You claimed there are no contradictions, please explain the below to me

a. who carry the cross to golgota?
i. Jesus carried it by himself (johjn 19v17)
ii. Simon carried it (mathew 27v32, mark 15v21-22)

b. who put the vinegar in to his mouth

i. One person put it (mark 15v36, mathew 27v47)
ii They put it into his mouth (john 19v28-30)

c. Who hold the legs of jesus? ?
i. The two mary (mathew 28v1-9)
ii No marry was allowed to touch him (john 20v16-17)

etc,

2. In john 5v37, were his disciples not present?

Escapist

how come you've left the topic at hand after you've been disgraced to latch unto another.
Like backslider said you lift scriptures here and there not bothering to check who was being addressed and when you're found out,you cling onto another set of fables sometimes already dealt with in othet threads.

Any Christian reading these know that you could have never ever been a Christian.That was your initial al taquiyyah.

well keep the comedy coming,I'm highly entertained by your jumping up and down like a testicle(as we say in Igboland)

Enjoy this clip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTBN-Jq8yi8

babs787:

Dear brother backslider,

I have been using the bible for you because if I quote the Quran for you, you will never believe me, so I have to use what you believe in.
Am already saved, its you that needs to be saved. You have read the story of Jesus in the Quran, telling you that we muslims believe in him.

Salam

You dear sir are a perfect example of hypocrisy at its best. You claim the bible has been corrupted yet it has been the sole "authority" behind most of your inputs here. Like backslider asked, can you please stick to arguing from the quran? How many christians do you see here attempting to prove their points by hyperventilatiing over the unholy quran?

And for your "reason" for quoting the bible rather than the quran, it made your position even more laughable!  
Keep dribbling yourself, you are bound to score a HELL of a goal pretty soon even mohammed will be proud of you.

@babs787,

babs787:

@syrup,

If you resort to being funny, babs will not hesitate too.

You're in a class of your own as far as being funny goes. Isn't it hilarious that after my having answered every point of your last post about 2 Pet. 1:17-18 and John 5 v37, the best you could do is fold your tail between your legs and offer a fresh round of saliva drooling from the corners of your mouth? What have you said to that previous post??

part of a testimony of a former imam,see the youtube clip also.

[b]My conversations with him drove me to pour over the Quran and the books of the Islamic law, hoping to find something to contradict what he said. I couldn’t change the reality of what I read. As a Muslim, I realized I had two options:

I could continue to embrace the “Christianized” Islam—the Islam of peace, love, forgiveness and compassion, the Islam tailor-made to fit Egyptian government, politics and culture—thereby keeping my job and status.

I could become a member of the Islamic movement and embrace Islam according to the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad. Muhammad said, “I left you with something [the Quran]. If you hold on to what I left with you, you will not be led astray forever.”

Many times I tried to rationalize the kind of Islam I was practicing by saying to myself, well, you are not too far out. After all, there are verses in the Quran about love, peace, forgiveness and compassion. You only need to ignore the part about jihad and the killing of the non-Muslims. I went to every interpretation of the Quran trying to avoid jihad and killing non-Muslims, yet I kept finding support of the practice. The scholars agreed that Muslims should enforce jihad on infidels (those who reject Islam) and renegades (those who leave Islam). Yet jihad was not in harmony with other verses that spoke of living at peace with others. All the contradictions in the Quran were really causing a problem for my faith. I spent four years to earn my bachelor’s degree, graduating second out of a class of six thousand. Then there was another four years for my master’s and three more for my doctorate—all studying Islam. I knew the teachings well.

In one place alcohol was forbidden; in another it was allowed(compare Surah 5:90–91 with Surah 47:15). In one place it says Christians are very good people who love and worship one God, so you may be friends with them (Surah 2:62, 3:113–114). Then you find other verses that say Christians must convert, pay tax or be killed by the sword (Surah 9:29 ). The scholars had theological solutions to these problems, but I wondered how Allah, almighty and all powerful, could either contradict himself so much or change his mind so much.

Even the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, practiced his faith in ways that contradicted the Quran. The Quran said Muhammad was sent to show the mercy of God to the world. But he became a military dictator, attacking, killing and taking plunder to finance his empire. How is that showing mercy? Allah, the god revealed in the Quran, is not a loving father. It says that he desires to lead people astray (Surah 6:39 , 126). He does not help those who are led astray by him (Surah 30:29) and desires to use them to populate hell (Surah 32:13).[color=#990000][/color]

Islam is full of discrimination—against women, against non-Muslims, against Christians and most especially against Jews. Hatred is built in to the religion.

The history of Islam, which was my special area of study, could only be characterized as a river of blood.[/b]


http://www.arabicbible.com/testimonies/gabriel.htm

babyosisi:

Even the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, practiced his faith in ways that contradicted the Quran. The Quran said Muhammad was sent to show the mercy of God to the world. But he became a military dictator, attacking, killing and taking plunder to finance his empire. How is that showing mercy? Allah, the god revealed in the Quran, is not a loving father. It says that he desires to lead people astray (Surah 6:39 , 126). He does not help those who are led astray by him (Surah 30:29) and desires to use them to populate hell (Surah 32:13).[color=#990000][/color]

Perhaps Belloti can kindly explain why allah is such a vindictive, evil and two-faced creature. I dont hold out much hope of an explanation from blabs787, he would soon start quoting Exodus in other to explain Surah 30:29.

david-liar,

Are you afraid of babs quoting from your bible?

A question for you please.

Is God of the OT different from that of the NT

@ALL

Let us all communicate with decorum we dont own heaven we should be the light to heaven a candle light cannot be hiiden it is our duty to teach until the spirit of truth convicts him if we truly carry that spirit in us.

Amen

@backslider,

Honestly, you are free to address babs anyhow you feel like. You are so much respected and will stay like that.

Posted by: Backslider
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@ALL
Let us all communicate with decorum we don't own heaven we should be the light to heaven a candle light cannot be hiiden it is our duty to teach until the spirit of truth convicts him if we truly carry that spirit in us.

What spirit of truth are you referring to in the above? I dont know why christians think that they are on the right path. hmmmmmmm

They are always quick at quoting verses in which prophet fought then but when something of sort is being mentioned in their bible, they bolt and turn the whole issue upside down

Am still asking my question, Is God of the OT different from NT? Since Jesus is the God of the NT, he must also be of the OT too. hmmmmmmmm

Never mind, If you leave muslims alone, babs will likewise do and allow you to keep preaching the false doctrines to your people (christians) but you cannot bring any false doctrine here for muslims.

Dear brother, how many of your questions have I answered and still answering with both Quranic and Biblical verses, Have I ever quoted wrong verses?

babs787:

@backslider,

Honestly, you are free to address babs anyhow you feel like. You are so much respected and will stay like that.

Posted by: Backslider
Insert Quote
@ALL
Let us all communicate with decorum we don't own heaven we should be the light to heaven a candle light cannot be hiiden it is our duty to teach until the spirit of truth convicts him if we truly carry that spirit in us.

What spirit of truth are you referring to in the above? I don't know why christians think that they are on the right path. hmmmmmmm

They are always quick at quoting verses in which prophet fought then but when something of sort is being mentioned in their bible, they bolt and turn the whole issue upside down

Am still asking my question, Is God of the OT different from NT? Since Jesus is the God of the NT, he must also be of the OT too. hmmmmmmmm

Never mind, If you leave muslims alone, babs will likewise do and allow you to keep preaching the false doctrines to your people (christians) but you cannot bring any false doctrine here for muslims.
Dear brother, how many of your questions have I answered and still answering with both Quranic and Biblical verses, Have I ever quoted wrong verses?

chei,are you really serious.
You don't even understand your own "writings" how can anyone understand you?

@babyosis,

Just a question

Is God of the OT different from that of the NT?

thank youuuuuuuu

since you pride yourself to be a Bible expert,why don't you tell us!
we are overdue for your entertainment on this thread.

babyosisi:

since you pride yourself to be a Bible expert,why don't you tell us!
we are overdue for your entertainment on this thread.

It doesnt matter if I am bible expert or not. Havent you been quoting from the Quran since? I will even appreciate it if you can be quoting from the Quran to refute my claims.Besides, I am still learning the bible and want to learn from you.

So please answer my question

Is the God of the OT different from that of the NT?

seriously bab787, u have compeletely no understanding watso ever of d Bible!!!!! I 'm really serious!!!
One thing u don't know is that some words, when it comes 2 d Bible does not mean wat dey mean in our simple english, n that's some thing u ve just never understood.

E.G: after writing d following passage : And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more everything living, as I have done. [Genesis 8:21]

ur response was : " He repented?Huh?? And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. [Exodus 32:14]
God repenting?Huh?

I know u weren't smart enough 2 figure dis out, but d repent which d Lord meant wasn't repenting 4rom sin or something lyk that, NO!!
".And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people"

this sentence simply wanted 2 say, that the Lord decided not to punish his people!! , bcuz obviously if God decides 2 punish someone, it is bcuz he or she deserved it!! but as a Good Lord that he is, most of d tyms he simply just 4gives us n decides 2 send no punisment!!!!

Seriously where is Shahan? or does any one has enough patient 2 explain d whole Bible 2 this Guy?!?!?!?!?!?!?

one advice 4 u babs787 : u should STOP reading d Bible bcuz u just come out understanding it d other way round!!!
D quran is just a bunch of rubish!!!!!

@Nella

You are just stumbling on my post.

Nella:

seriously bab787, u have compeletely no understanding watso ever of d Bible!!!!! I 'm really serious!!!
One thing u don't know is that some words, when it comes to the Bible does not mean what dey mean in our simple english, n that's some thing u ve just never understood.


Does the bible has any secret or whatever interpretation? No it does not. I agree that some words may not mean what they meant in English Language and that is the more reason we are having some verses contradicting each other. From your statement above, it can be deduce that yes from the bible may not necessarily mean yes and vice versa!!!!!!!!!!!! And please what is the meaning of 2nd Peter 1 v 20?

Nella link=topic=38560.msg940579#msg940579 date=1173209982:

[b]
E.G: after writing d following passage : And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more everything living, as I have done. [Genesis 8:21]

your response was : " He repented?Huh?? And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. [Exodus 32:14]
God repenting?Huh?

I know u weren't smart enough 2 figure this out, but d repent which d Lord meant wasn't repenting 4rom sin or something like that, NO!!
".And in the story of Moses, we read And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people"

You are even smarter than I expected . Where in my post did I say that "God repented of His sin"? If you dont have biblical knowledge, it will be better for you to keep off rather than giving the verses your own meanings. What does the word 'repent' mean to you? Is it not when one has been doing something and decides to stop doing it. Let me have your own understanding of the word 'repentance'.

Nella:


this sentence simply wanted 2 say, that the Lord decided not to punish his people!! , bcuz obviously if God decides 2 punish someone, it is bcuz he or she deserved it!! but as a Good Lord that he is, most of d tyms he simply just 4gives us n decides 2 send no punisment!!!!

Okay, the Lord decided not to punish his people!. Meaning that He has been punishing them and decided to stop doing same. If I say I have been doing something and decides never to do it again, what does that mean to you? I know that God forgives but the emphasis is not on that but on repentance. Again, what does repentance mean to you?

Nella:

Seriously where is Shahan? or does any one has enough patient 2 explain d whole Bible 2 this Guy?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[b]

You dont need to explain the whole bible when you cant even explain simple verses

Nella:

[b]
one advice for you babs787 : u should STOP reading d Bible bcuz u just come out understanding it d other way round!!!
D quran is just a bunch of rubish!!!!!

Here you go again. One that should be accused of falsehood, fraud, paganism, plagiarism, phonography, incest cases, etc accusing another of same. Havent you been seeing your sister quoting verses out of context and giving them her own meaning. You didnt see her but its that of babs you quickly see. Hmmmmmmmm

Never mind, I am learning and will continue reading the bible.

Those who reject Islam are ingrates.

nuru:

Those who reject Islam are ingrates.

Oga nuru, what should those who accept islam be grateful for? That they have lost their freedom and have become slaves to a "god" without ears, eyes or mouth?

@babs787, nah, it's not just 4rom here, most of ur interpritations ( which i ve read ) of d Bible r wrong!!!
n i guess that's d reason u normally ask such dumb n useless questions!!
just lyk u have just done!!!!
ok so ur reply 2 my post was this:

"Okay, the Lord decided not to punish his people!. Meaning that He has been punishing them and decided to stop doing same. If I say I have been doing something and decides never to do it again, what does that mean to you? I know that God forgives but the emphasis is not on that but on repentance. Again, what does repentance mean to you?"

No!!!( seriously r u that dumb??!!!) that simply wasn't wat i meant nor wat i wrote!!! i never said he has been punishing them i simply said he dicided not 2 punish them 4 something they did wrong,

Note u that, there is a difference between this two sentence:

"The Lord decided not 2 punish his people" AND " D Lord decided 2 stop punishing his people"
n wat i said was d first one, n it has nothing 2 do with d first one which is past continous ( did u learn past continous tense in ur school?)

well u said d word repent means " when one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it agin"
i don't desagree wid u.
Ok concerning that verse in d Bible, : did it say that d Lord was been punishing his people?? or did it say that d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong dey did) was thinking of punshing his people??

well sisnce ur own defination of repentance is when some one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it again, u should as well have figured it out that ( concerning d verse in d Bible) d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong d people) did was thinking of punishing them ( not that he has been punishing them) but he stoped think so bcuz he simply forgave them, lyk he ALWAYS does, understand

@ topic: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths?well my reply= D Quran is a piece of junk, burn it up any day i find it even in my back yard!!!!

Praise God.
Babs it looks like we finally have learnt how to quote!
I knew you'll get it someday.

slowly but surely, he is getting literate.

@Nella

Posted by Nella
@babs787, nah, it's not just 4rom here, most of your interpritations ( which i ve read ) of d Bible r wrong!!!
n i guess that's d reason u normally ask such dumb n useless questions!!
just like u have just done!!!!

Ok. We shall see if you have really interpreted the bible very well.



Posted by Nella
ok so your reply 2 my post was this:

"Okay, the Lord decided not to punish his people!. Meaning that He has been punishing them and decided to stop doing same. If I say I have been doing something and decides never to do it again, what does that mean to you? I know that God forgives but the emphasis is not on that but on repentance. Again, what does repentance mean to you?"

No!!!( seriously r u that dumb??!!!) that simply wasn't what i meant nor what i wrote!!! i never said he has been punishing them i simply said he dicided not 2 punish them 4 something they did wrong,

Never mind, you may use any language. I have learnt that most of you resorts to that when you have no relevant answer(s) . Did you read the verse? If say that “I will not be doing something AGAIN”, what does that implies. Is it not that I have been doing it before and want to stop doing it. Is that not called REPENTANCE in Christianity.

How does a person repent from his/her iniquities? Is it not by denouncing what he/she has been doing and with the promise of not doing it again. Compare with the above verse where God says:

E.G: after writing d following passage : And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more everything living, as I have done. [Genesis 8:21]

Note the word “again”. What is the meaning of again to you.



Posted by Nella
Note u that, there is a difference between this two sentence:

"The Lord decided not 2 punish his people" AND " D Lord decided 2 stop punishing his people"
n what i said was d first one, n it has nothing 2 do with d first one which is past continous ( did u learn past continous tense in your school?)

Sorry Madam, you know that I am still learning from you Christian professors. Read the verse very well and you will see these words:

I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake
And
neither will I again smite any more everything living

What is your understanding of the above, professor Nella? If I say that I will not be doing something again, what is the stand of the word ‘again’ in the above verse?



Posted by Nella
well u said d word repent means " when one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it agin"
i don't desagree wid u.
Ok concerning that verse in d Bible, : did it say that d Lord was been punishing his people??  or did it say that d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong dey did) was thinking of punshing his people??

You really understand the bible. God in that verse said that he would not be smiting people again. Does that not mean that he has been smiting and wanted to stop. Or what is your understanding of the word ‘again’, Professor Nella?


Posted by Nella
well sisnce your own defination of repentance is when some one has been doing something n decides not 2 do it again,  u should as well have figured it out that ( concerning d verse in d Bible) d Lord ( bcuz of d wrong d people) did was thinking of punishing them ( not that he has been punishing them) but he stoped think so bcuz he simply forgave them, like he ALWAYS does,  understand

Understood professor. There is nowhere that says that God was thinking of punishing them BUT that He would not curse the land and smite people again. It means that he has been cursing the land and decided to stop, likewise he decided to stop smiting people. Loving God.


Posted by Nella
@ topic: The Quran Fraud Contradictions Or Great Truths?well my reply= D Quran is a piece of junk, burn it up any day i find it even in my back yard!!!!

You will never find it in your backyard because it a holy book that is not find everywhere as you are having the bible on bookstands being sold by ordinary men at the bus stops, garages and even taken to the toilet etc
I wonder when Christians will stop accusing the Holy Quran of being a piece of junk when we have stories of adultery, incest, pornography, slavery, mass killing, love letters, fornication, contradictions, forgery, fraud etc. I doubt if you will be able to show the songs of Solomon to your kid containing obcene words, love letters, love poems, sexy quotes etc and your kid will not want to experiment what he has read on females of his age. In short, the book should be banned and has no qualification of being a holy book.



@babyosis


Posted by babyosis
Praise God.
Babs it looks like we finally have learnt how to quote!

Yes o. I have been learning and will continue doing same. Your sister Nella really interpreted the bible .


Posted by babyosis
I knew you'll get it someday.

Yes o. I am learning a lot from you, it got muddled up along the line.I even learned from you Christians sometimes when questions on “who wrote the book of Deuteronomy” and “was Moses given any Torah” were thrown to davidylan and he said that Moses’ subordinates might have written the book for him while his sister shahan said moses penned down the chapter by himself. Also, davidylan said that no Torah was given to Moses but only the ten commandment while his sister quoted verses supporting my claim. So can see that I am really learning from you.


@davidylan

Posted by davidylan
slowly but surely, he is getting literate.

Honestly, you are right. I am really getting literate based on your biblical quotes and interpretation of the bible. Learning continues. I even learned from you that one must lie (you remember the issue of moses and the torah).


Posted by davidylan
Oga nuru, what should those who accept islam be grateful for? That they have lost their freedom and have become slaves to a "god" without ears, eyes or mouth?


Some verses for your post above

Quran 49 v 17: They regard as favour to you (O Muhammed) that they have embraced Islam. Say: “Count not your Islam as a favour to me. Nay, but Allah has conferred a favour upon you that He has GUIDED YOU TO THE FAITH if you indeed are true

Quran 3 v 85; And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him and in the hereafter, he will be one of the losers.

Quran 3 v 19: Truly the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the scripture (jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, signs, revelations etc) of Allah, then surely, Allah is swift in calling to account.

Quran 31 v 22: And whoever submits his face (himself) to Allah, while he is a Muhsin (good doer i.e performs good deeds totally for Allah’s sake without any show off or gain praise or fame and does them in accordance with the Sunnah of Allah’s messenger Muhammed (saw), then he has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold (La Ilaha Ilallah(none has to be worshipped but Allah). And to Allah return all matters for decision.

A word is enough for the wise.

@babs787,thou i didn't exactly go back 2 reading d verse, i simply judged 4rom ur reaction, cuz when u were lyk : "hu? repenting? God repenting?" ( that was wat really got ma attention) it absolutely sounded lyk u meant repenting 4rom sin, which had nothing 2 do with d passage!!! 4 God never comittes sin!!
right so i didn't exactly care 2 go back 2 reading d passage in d Bible which was y i didn't notice word "again" in d sentence which was y i said that u were wrong, ( but yet lyk i said God dosent punish some one 4 no reason, aywayz)

wat annoyed me n got ma attention was ur reaction, i mean wat did u mean by d whole: hu? repenting? God repenting , wat did u mean by all that, cuz jus 4rom d way u said it, it simply gave out d message that wat u meant n understood was repenting 4rom sin!!

ha ha lol!! imagine u saying d Bible has gat improper stuffs lol!!! do u even read d quran? well wat about d quran that practicly gives out messages of violence??!?!??

Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers."
Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them."
Quran 4:34:, the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them;
Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)

JUST WAT HAVE U GAT 2 SAY about that?? how can even an adult read that talkless of even a child!!!!!
n wat do u know, but u muslims acctually go doing it!!!!! wat kinda God do u have

Posted by davidylan
Oga nuru, what should those who accept islam be grateful for? That they have lost their freedom and have become slaves to a "god" without ears, eyes or mouth?[b][/b]

lol gud question!!! well if u happen 2 accept islam, here r just some few things u have 2 do 4 ur islam god 2 love u n 4 u 2 enter into his f**king n fake kingdom!!

Quran Sura 2:191: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers."
Quran Sura 4:89: "Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them."
Quran 4:34:, the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them;
Quran 5:33: "Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom." (Anyone who resist Islam is deemed to be making war with Allah)

pretty normal stuffs hu?? ( do u mind practising any of this things??) 2 command such things he must b some CRAZY son of a B++CH!! n calls himsel God!!( besides he dosent exist)
@ ur question: imagine d kind of reward u would get 4rom such useless thing that calls itself "GOD"!!!!!