In your first letter, if i understood it correctly, the notion is
that someday we may "get it" and what "it" may be and what we do
then?

My first reaction was that the theme reminded me of what i
wrote about how i drove everybody away because they
did'nt get "it" and then lamenting that i really did'nt get "it" for
20 yrs ("it" being love out of humility).

However you head in a different direction with "it".

The direction you go in is a familiar one to me.

I am going to kinda break down what you wrote and add my
own thoughts along the way and i hope you find something of intrest to
you along the way.


To begin with,

you basicly point out that we percieve reality with a begining and an end where as God is beyond it because he is omniscient and omnipresent.


For years i have been feeling around this notion of "time" as in reconsciling time to God and God as a
great time traveler which he makes very clear in his word.

I'm thinking along the lines of the movie "The Butterfly Effect" with
Jesus at the center of it all.

God picked the single moment within all the streams of probality that could've existed and do exist (maybe
simultaneously) that would best reconsile his creation (man) to
himself. and those that are his own are faithing their way into him as
a result.

Maybe, for each person their are an infinit # of persons that that person could be and it varies with every choice and decision that person makes.

Now, God knows all the persons each of us could potentialy be and has revealed his light to every single one of them in there own distinct reality and has done so with every one of us. As a result God knows who

(givin the right set of circumstances)

would and would not respond to his light on his terms.

Now, consider the fall of Adam and that every one of us is
but a notion that Adam had of himself and i leave that thought there
for now.


Back to my observations of this letter.

You put forth the notion that "the timeline happens in increments and each moment takes
place within its own time, but is it the same moment for you as it is for me and everyone else? or do we each have our own individual,personal moments?"

Some how i think reality is in a state of flux.

What i mean is that its not fully "concretionized" And because of this we all are sharing what seems to be one reality yet this is an appearance not a fact

(but not an illusion either and i will explain a little later).

further on in your letter you ponder a question.

You say,
"think of someone that was lost and now is found. Were they damned before they were saved, or
were they destined to become saved? If so, were they ever really damned at all?"

Then you quote scripture:
"chosen befor the world was formed" and "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world".

Then you say
"all those who’s names are written in that book will continue with god forever".

Moreover, you reflect:

"if you care at all whether your in that book, chances
are you are, but he also said you can lose your place by failing to
act in faith and there's a chance up to a point. And something about
fear and trembling".

futher specificity is needed.

sin of the spirit.
"That attitudinal frame of reference that ultimatly leads to a callousness in ones concern for the things of God."

That sin of the spirit is not a particular act but a frame of reference that leads to God turning you over to a strong delusion, you belive a lie and are damned.

In that case you proved to be a son of the devil to
begin with,

(Like Judas)

it was'nt how he began in his walk with
Jesus but how he ended up.



Now, applying this to my own life, i did and still do cling closly to the things of God. I do work my salvation out with much fear and trembling, not because im not sure if im saved but because i value it so much. And what i value so much is that Jesus Loves me enough to allow me to fall down as often as i have and forsake him as i have.

The thing is do you still love him?
Jesus alive to us has helped us realize how meaningful his word really is to
our lives.

He put "flesh and blood" On Gods word in a way that we
did'nt just learn a principle we identified with it!

And that is the compass, the word come alive and thats the gift we now posses

Ask yourself a question, what do you want from your
loved ones trust? or perfection?

Jesus says I am he that blotteth out thy sins for thine own sake! I will never leave you or forsake you!


Remember that we fell in love with jesus because he went out of his
way to make sure we understood how much he loved us and thats what we
carry in our hearts
Deep calls to deep and the spirit bears witness!

That’s why i can understand
it being harder to get out of gods will then it was to stay in it.


Because every waking moment that i came to understand more the depth
of my own depravity,

I equally became aware of Jesus loving me in
spite of it.

The walk with Jesus is a love affair of the first order
and growth is born out of it!

I think i got off track but i cant say
im sorry

The point was, when you fall u can always start over.
Just get up facing in the right direction and press on, a little wiser
and a little more wantin to get it right. Not because you have to but
because you want to and thats the beauty of recieving unconditional
love.

The fear and trembling comes (for myself) when you just don’t
care any more. Not about being in the lamb’s book of life, but about
what Jesus has revealed to you, that he loved you and only you can
know how deep that love runs because only you can Know how unworthy
you are and that is "first love"!

As for losing your place in "the book of life" by failing to act in faith.

What I think he meant is that you
“continue the way you began, steadfast in faith”,

because that is what we can do and is what God expects us to do and why
would'nt we? PRAISE GOD!

“All the promises of God are in him amen
and so be it unto you” !

This is the “sabbathing” that remains for
Gods people, where we lay down our dead “perfectionism” which is
just “filthy rags” and claim the “finished work of Christ”

and if it is finished, all thats left is the blessings
(the promises to be held onto more real than all the things of time).

This is the channel that strikes the connection to Christ And through that channel Christ sets
up his abode in us AND THIS IS THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE.

Born in grace and love


further on you say,
"every so often i catch a tiny glimpse of
all time as being one moment and in that one moment i see everything
and it all makes sense".

I add.

Could this be an aspect of w
"the breath of eternity is upon you"?



“if you have the spirit of Christ, you have the mind of Christ and it makes you smarter”

and this is just common sense logical. But this notion of yours
“time as being one moment and seeing it all make sense”

adds a new dimension to its meaning.

Could it be that the:
"God/Christ/time traveler/awareness of it all mentality"

may be a manifestation of Christs spirit dwelling in you?


Dose it not lend itself to the fact that you would begin to perceive
reality from Jesus’ own perspective which dose make sense of it
all?

I am not saying that you "get it all" for "we presently see through a dim glass darkly"

but never the less these impressions could be a manifestation of
"the renewing of your mind"

and I get them as well. There is something very real and important here to be
understood. ,

Regards K.Krow (surfkrow)