AugustineAgain:
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Breaking News : Nigeria Negotiating BTR-4E APC/IFV With Ukraine...

Watch this space.

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2 APCs there,20 MRAPs there,2 Tanks there!!!

Nothing like 238 Badger IFVs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do people even know SA might purchase the IFVs like the Iklwa,Mbombe or RG41 for other army units like artillery,engineers and air defence artillerym

AugustineAgain:

We have Lynx anti-submarine helicopters in reserve

Also, your submarine is diesel electric, so it must snorkel to get air and recharge it's battery every 48 hours or else it will sink dead, it becomes vulnerable to ATR-42 Surveyor 330km radar detection and it can call in Maritime version Alpha jets for rocket attack...your submarine is TOTALLY defenceless against air attacks
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Diesel submarines are DEADLY!!!!

The submarine can go to the operational area to hunt,attack and conduct surveillance.

Pulling out to recharge its batteries after a long time somewhere. Come back to attack again!!!!!!!


Detecting a periscope is difficult,unless the when the ocean is calm.

With rough conditions like such as the waters around SA,waves make it extremely difficult.

What are going to focus on?

Hunt an elusive sub? Or try attack surface vessels?

AugustineAgain:

[size=14pt] Post clear source of Rooivalk weapons payload kilograms and weapon option types....I will reply with Mi-35M superiority and we settle this argument forever....it will be Epic !

I challenge EVERY South African on Rooivalk Vs Mi-35M Hind E !
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Rooivalk payload is 2000 kg
http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1994/1994%20-%202293.PDF

Henry120:

Keep up with this current rhetoric in your fantasy land, let it get to a diplomatic level, and see our diplomats change things for you, so quickly.

Our diplomats are better than yours

Hence why we get invited to things like the Syrian Peace-Talks

AugustineAgain:

[size=14pt] South African army to be under command of Uganda.

As African Union still cannot trust SANDF to fight war alone due to poor war record....

Adds Liberian army to list of SANDF's next leaders .

South Africa accepts offer in desperation to gain a little experience of combat which it does not have.

AU concerned for inexperienced SANDF's safety, adds superior Algeria to the leadership list.

www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/09/26/sandf-prepares-for-war/

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No mention of leadership

And since we are the ones leading the formation of the Unit, and the fact that it is one of Jacob Zuma's presidential legacy projects (like the nuke deal) its pretty obvious who will be in charge

NaijaPikinGidi:

Even Togo is preparing and training hard for war! The question is: which war are they preparing for? People that couldn't do CAR and M23 alone want to go to war anywhere in Africa? All of this noise is good for the news channels and media! They know they cannot muster men and resources to fight any war.

No cause for alarm abegii!!

Irony is that of all sub-saharan countries

South Africa has fought the most and the biggest conventional wars

AugustineAgain:

Nope, Beegeagle is known by the Nigerian military, the navy officially partners with him on anti-piracy campaign with an open letter
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So he is a propaganda mouth-peice?

Unheard of in the international community?

AugustineAgain:

We have 660 artillery guns, you have 120. We have almost 500 tanks, you have 250, we have 30 + 40 = 70 combat helicopters, you have only 10, we have 300 navy inshore/midshore fast vessels, you have only 20.

So who has been doing major arms deals ? Nigeria or South Africa?
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We have 660 artillery guns, you have 120.

And our 120 are better, individually, tactically and strategically than all your guns

We have almost 500 tanks, you have 250,

250 which are better in every way

and you only actually have around 150 tanks - so you have less than us

we have 30 + 40 = 70

The majority of which are transports

All of which are obsolete

300 navy inshore/midshore fast vessels, you have only 20.

We have 4 Frigates
You have 1

We have 3 submarines
You have none

We have 26 4th gen fighters
You have none

Etc
Etc
Etc

AugustineAgain:

You should have fired one torpedo and see the NATO response your submarine will get. You think your navy can fight same NATO that sold the submarine to you? They will render your submarine useless with anti-torpedo decoys and sink it with counter attack ASW weapons
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Blah blah blah

Facts are facts

We sunk their task-force

AugustineAgain:

You saw my shadow in Soweto?

I hear you were posting from a farmers hut oustide Abuja

AugustineAgain:

They ships were NOT bought, that proves you are lying, they are free gift second hand German navy over-used useless Minesweepers

Show us source that you bought the for reserve....when you actually had none in service for your navy to use

See your junk rust bucket German navy hand me down rust buckets of ancient configuration......
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Ok, so a free gift

And we should turn it down? Ever heard the saying "never look a gift horse in the mouth"?

And we have minsweeps in service still today - so there goes your argument

AugustineAgain:

Janes is not free, you pay suscription, so lets us use your credit card.

SIPRI updates only one a year, every April.

The only sources you get now will be general news media.

SIPRI that you are hungry for will be a shock and agony for you in April 2015 because it will be fully over-loaded with long list of new modern weapons purchased by Nigeria, weapons that South Africa is still praying and fasting to buy in 2030
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So you admit you have no proof?

You admit that it is all BS rumors started by click-bait Beegeagles rumor-mill blog?

AugustineAgain:


The report was from Ukrainian Tv news and I post the video here for you, the T-72 tank upgrade company manager said the tanks are going to Nigeria Africa. The website that copied the story interpreted it all into English.

Nigeria had T-72 tanks in the hundreds for many years kept secret, so secret that even SIPRI could not know it, now sent to Ukraine for full upgrade with Self Protection against anti-tank missiles.....you asked for our T-72 now we show you live videos....Expect Su-30 Flankers of NAF + JF-17 Thunders....watch this space !



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3F_XH_Lhrw

English translation below and also photo screenshot of translated page.


"Lviv T-72 in Nigeria
25.09.2014
The report Ukrainian TV channel "Gromadska Telebachennya" with GP "Lviv armored repair plant" showed up the next recipient of T-72 tanks from Ukraine - Nigeria. In the television report said that the plant is implementing a contract for the supply of tanks in Nigeria.
As you can tell, this is the T-72A or B, equipped with accessories dynamic protection 4S20.
In the courtyard there are four businesses ready to send to Nigeria tank, and representatives of the plant say that "the desire to be the Ministry of Defence, then tomorrow would be sent to Nigeria in the area of ATU."
Until now in the public domain information on the purchase of Nigeria in Ukraine the presence of T-72 tanks were absent.
Tanks T-72, the last repair on SE "Lviv armored repair plant" and intended for delivery to Nigeria. Lviv, 09.12.2014 (c) frame from the reporting channel " Gromadska Telebachennya " T-72 tanks, the last repair on SE "Lviv armored repair plant" and intended for delivery to Nigeria. Lviv, 09.12.2014 (c) frame from the reporting channel " Gromadska Telebachennya " Report."

[size=16pt]Anybody still doubting Nigerian army T-72 tanks is a born fool !

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Hundreds?

Lol. what a clown

AugustineAgain:

Citation proof for that claim please...
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Consult: Every war the T-72 has ever fought in.

T-72 is an absolute peice of sh1t, in every way shape and form

I would choose an Olifant Mk1 over a T-72

AugustineAgain:


Could extend is NOT Will extend, learn to read and understand.

Gulf of Guinea includes Gabon and other Central African countries.

Come back and talk to us when you have a 100% proof that it will include West Africa, now run along like a lame duck

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Fact is, we will now be patrolling both the Indian and Atlantic

And the coasts of 4 different nations

That is force projection you could not dream of

AugustineAgain:

Mi-35 Hinds have chaff and flare counter-measures to waste your hand held Starstreak missiles.

Easy, NAF helicopters can fly at 3km altitude and be laughing at your 1km maximum altitude 'modern' Starstreak missiles that is as good as a catapult made of wood from Iroko tree

Your modern jets are poorly armed, South Africa has NO SINGLE air to ground missile.

Your laser guided bombs and missiles will have their laser system jammed by our APCs smoke dispensers and T-84 has Optronics laser jammer.

Your snail speed guided bombs will be sh.ot down by ordinary anti-aircraft guns.

SAAF barks more than it can bite.....toothless bulldog
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Mi-35 Hinds have chaff and flare counter-measures to waste your hand held Starstreak missiles.

Then you clearly have no idea how Starstreak works.

You no longer steer the missile into the target. You just point the big massive screen in that image in the vague direction of the target, Starstreak does the rest. Thus far it's been ruthlessly accurate against differing targets in test shots.

Being able to attack land targets, being capable of mounting multiple forms of missiles and for being virtually impossible (if not completely immune in 99% of cases) to being jammed or deflected in any way, because the missile doesn't give a sh1t for your flares or chaff, it isn't tracking them.

You must be mistaking Starstreak for something that isn't the rapetastic system that it is.

-Immune to countermeasures
-Triple warhead spread
-Tri-launchers for rapid firing without reloading
-WTF levels of acceleration to catch anything thinking it'll get away with a pop up or flyover attack
-No lock on time needed
-Assisted guidance so precision isn't needed by the operator, only a vague direction
-Designed to be able to rape anything up to an IFV on the ground as well without any modification needed
-Designed to be able to mount new Light Multirole Guided MIssile in the same tube for multi-target engagement on land, air and precise surface

Easy, NAF helicopters can fly at 3km altitude and be laughing at your 1km maximum altitude 'modern' Starstreak missiles that is as good as a catapult made of wood from Iroko tree

you have no weapons you can deploy from that Altitude. So they are useless up there. And sitting ducks for Gripen and Hawks

Your modern jets are poorly armed, South Africa has NO SINGLE air to ground missile.

Dont need them - we have JDAMS

Your laser guided bombs and missiles will have their laser system jammed by our APCs smoke dispensers and T-84 has Optronics laser jammer.

Only the T-84 has laser warning, and you dont actually have any.

So there goes that argument

Your snail speed guided bombs will be sh.ot down by ordinary anti-aircraft guns.

You keep saying that - but you have been unable to find a single instance in the last 20 years of a single JDAM being shot down.

SAAF barks more than it can bite.....toothless bulldog

Which makes the NAF a Chihuahua with down-syndrome

AugustineAgain:

Yes !

Try prove me wrong if you can...I dare you !
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First you need to say how they will engage it

AugustineAgain:

We have Lynx anti-submarine helicopters in reserve

Also, your submarine is diesel electric, so it must snorkel to get air and recharge it's battery every 48 hours or else it will sink dead, it becomes vulnerable to ATR-42 Surveyor 330km radar detection and it can call in Maritime version Alpha jets for rocket attack...your submarine is TOTALLY defenceless against air attacks
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First, the chances of your plane detecting a snorkel unless it is just a few KM's away is ludicrous - a needle within a forest of haystacks
Second, when you send in a strike the Valour Class will detect it and dive deep - safe as can be
Third, your Lynx is non-operational and completely outdated, not a threat at all.

AugustineAgain:

Try rescue your Rhinos at home first...



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Try rescue your country first

AugustineAgain:


Easy, use of Cluster b.ombs with one single bomb spreading 500 b.omblets covering an entire area of 10 kilometer square directly above the ship and all around it.

There will be no escape for your Frigate from the hands of a NAF maritime Alpha jet Wide Area Cluster Bomber.
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You dont have clusterbombs

and no clusterbombs have a 10km spread - that is goddamn ludicrous

Also, to my knowledge, clusterbombs are now banned

AugustineAgain:

Show a source that says they are worse. I don't need your private opinion

90% of the countries in the world DO NOT use dedicated combat helicopters, that proves my own point
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90% of the countries in the world are too poor to afford dedicated attack helicopters

AugustineAgain:


South Africa has never deployed more than 4,000 Soldiers in a war in the past 60 years till now.

Your military deploys like the small army of Togo Republic

In-experienced domingos

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30 000 were deployed for Quito Carnival

Average troops strength on the border was 4000 men - over a 20 year period

There were multiple surges for major operations.

AugustineAgain:

Try beg SANDF soldiers to back to Bangui and collect your Gecko vehicles from Seleka boys and drive it into Pretoria, like this....

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Why?

What strategic significance is it of?

Nigerians are emotional like women.

South Africans are cold and calculating.

AugustineAgain:

In case you don't know, Nigerian army has now devastated Boko Haram till the point that they are now k.illing each other because we k.illed Shekau and 'robbed' him of his precvious Mowag APC...

http://newsrescue.com/boko-haram-killing-leadership-tussle-30-members-dead/

South African army will never achieve that in 100 years to come !
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Except we achieved it multiple times in the last 100 years

AugustineAgain:

Grab your phone, call hell fire and ask this man Shekau....
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More dead civilians

Nice

AugustineAgain:

All you said is the exact opposite of the truth. That Hind is faster, flies higher, carries more weapon load than the Rooivalk.

Post a source foe your false claims and see my challenge come...
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First you must post your sources

That is how it works

Mi-35 best attack heli in africa?
have they forgotten about Algeria's 'Superhind Mk-3' which was upgraded in S.A and is a direct competitor to Mi-35 and some consider it to be better than the Mi-35.

Not forgetting that ATE also produces the Superhind Mk-4 which is way better than the Mi-35. So if there was a shortage of attack helicopters in the S.A.A.F we'd buy more from local companies, which are way better than what N.A has.


First pic: Algerian Super-Hind-MK3

Second pic: ATE prototype. Of the Super-Hind-Mk4

GreenandGold:

Yah I have been training on a spaceship, my friends know it.

Show us proof, even it is a blog, at least we will see a 'source'
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GreenandGold:

Useless former Soviet junk, who takes Ukrainian weapons serious.

SANDF bought British Starstreak hand held anti-aircraft missiles with the stupiid 1km altitude of a Catapult....perfect junk


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GreenandGold:

4000 troops that whipped the Soviets out of Africa.... meanwhile the NA has tens of thousands of troops deployed yet BH keeps whipping your behind #BringBackOurGirls

History showed the world Pietha Botha commander in chief of SADF begging Cuba on negotiating table.

#ShowUs A Modern WarSANDF EverWon FightingAlone
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Centrifude: dude don't even bother yourself with that guy, he has an over-active imagination not even my 9 year old nephew is that crazy.

Just let it go bro.

You wrote that South Africa is going to WAR....a war that has no name and location. It's actually you that does over-active imagination

MikeZA: Every regional force will have its leadership. And that has not been sorted yet.

Don't conclude without facts.

You should post the facts to prove your claim of "every regional force will have it's leadership".

Uganda is South Africa's next war teacher

SANDF will forever be a crowd follower
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