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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:52pm On Sep 27, 2014
agaugust:

Is the use of OperaMini a crime ? Do you follow him to house to see if he has a laptop too?

Many South Africans here have confessed to using cell phone to browse. Grow up abeg.

that's just evidence of one of his challenges... illeteracygrin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 11:53pm On Sep 27, 2014
Centrifude: Mi-35 best attack heli in africa?
have they forgotten about Algeria's 'Superhind Mk-3' which was upgraded in S.A and is a direct competitor to Mi-35 and some consider it to be better than the Mi-35.

Not forgetting that ATE also produces the Superhind Mk-4 which is way better than the Mi-35. So if there was a shortage of attack helicopters in the S.A.A.F we'd buy more from local companies, which are way better than what N.A has.


First pic: Algerian Super-Hind-MK3

Second pic: ATE prototype. Of the Super-Hind-Mk4
Very Very true!
And those are some kick-*ss pictures.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:14am On Sep 28, 2014
iterator24: new deliveries?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1739491_military_jpeg6e22b5c3e575023534e388d59be4279d



Possibly a mix of current and new. The tracked armour is MT-LB we use in UN peace-keeping. The wheeled ones cannot be identified, could be new armour, Nigerian military is very secretive as we all know.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30am On Sep 28, 2014
MikeZA: They had better navy than your navy today.

But couldn't find a single,crippled submarine.

Your ATR-42 is a simple maritime surveillance aircraft.

Britain is a world power, they had a better Navy at that time than South Africa has today.

The British helicopters found and sank Submarine Santa Fe in that same war. Reason why I said submarines get forced to surface many times and that is when they lose their cover and get k.illed by aircraft.

ATR-42 of Nigeria is a NATO standard ELINT capable MPA & ISR dual-role 330km radar range super deadly-highly sophisticated maritime aircraft South Africa does NOT have, not even in your wildest dreams, it's surveillance Radar/FLIR/TV/Data-links capability is equal to 1,000 South Africa Submarines combined in MPA role and ISR roles.

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF...

http://www.atraircraft.com/datas/download_center/38/atr_42_surveyor_2004_38.pdf

[img]http://1.bp..com/-uWR35NrFMlA/U-1lWd9jnRI/AAAAAAAACIk/CdiJYJ1C_68/s1600/A319MPA-1.jpg[/img]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:47am On Sep 28, 2014
MikeZA: Ok!!! Explain to us how the Valour class frigates manage to not release smoke?!?

Are they boats or vessels?

You should ask your self what happens to gases and heat released by modern diesel subs. You misinformed I'd..ot.

Dude, no engine can break the law of combustion in Physics. Valour frigate releases smoke above the water surface...

"The South African Valour class frigates are the major surface ships of the South African Navy. Their German manufacturer designates these warships as the MEKO A-200SAN class, member of its MEKO family of naval ships.[3] They were designed and built using principles of stealthy design, including the extensive use of "X-form" structure design in which right angles and vertical surfaces are avoided, and techniques to reduce the infrared signature, such as expelling pre-cooled exhaust gasses just above the waterline."

Now that is a stealth warship, yet it releases the heat and smoke above water surface instead of overhead funnel, ALL combustion engines have to obey the laws of physics.

Your Submarine is NOT even a stealth submarine, it will produce enough heat and smoke from combustion engines for ATR-42 to detect.

Submarines use battery power only fully submerged for 48 hours, after that it MUST surface partially to snorkel and switch to diesel engine or else battery runs dead and submarine sinks to sea bottom, ALL it's sailors-crew will die !

You do NOT have a magic Submarine that cannot die !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51am On Sep 28, 2014
MikeZA: Engine heat? From submarine? grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin


Do you realise it is statements like this why other Nigerians never take your ideas seriously? You're such comedian.

You post before finding facts.

I have explained FLIR above, next one is TV Camera.

Look, unless your submarine is make of air and gas, only then will it escape the sea search high power TV camera of ATR-42 aircraft when your submarine is snorkeling. Nothing on earth escapes the eyes of a camera except spirits and demons.

Your submarine will be happily detected by NAF when you snorkel every 48 hours smiley smiley

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:58am On Sep 28, 2014
MikeZA: Prove it please!!!!!

we proved it to you that SA boats have radar.


We too proved to you that NAF got new 4th Generation world class jet fighters this month, read and collapse......

"The latest fighter jets in the world would start arriving the country this week. Informed top military sources disclosed to the Nigerian Tribune at the weekend that the fighter jets, up to a dozen in number, were purchased directly by the Nigerian Air Force. The source revealed that the jets are capable of bombing in the night."


http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode


Case Proved. Case Closed

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:09am On Sep 28, 2014
Centrifude: Mi-35 best attack heli in africa?
have they forgotten about Algeria's 'Superhind Mk-3' which was upgraded in S.A and is a direct competitor to Mi-35 and some consider it to be better than the Mi-35.

Not forgetting that ATE also produces the Superhind Mk-4 which is way better than the Mi-35. So if there was a shortage of attack helicopters in the S.A.A.F we'd buy more from local companies, which are way better than what N.A has.


First pic: Algerian Super-Hind-MK3

Second pic: ATE prototype. Of the Super-Hind-Mk4

Those are old Super-Hinds. Russia has built the latest....Mi-35M Hind E and that is what Nigeria has now, 12 units coming, 2 arrived already.

NAF Mi-35M Hind E is superior to both Super Hind and SAAF Rooivalk...proved today

Yesterday your South African guys got first shock that Mi-35M carries more weapon payload than your over-hyped Rooivalk turkey.

Now ALL South Africans are running away from Mi-35M Vs Rooivalk comparison challenge.....

I asked for list of weapon options each carries, NO South African had courage to answer tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 4:49am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:

Is the use of OperaMini a crime ? Do you follow him to house to see if he has a laptop too?

Many South Africans here have confessed to using cell phone to browse. Grow up abeg.



You're Chris365 now?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 4:54am On Sep 28, 2014
Henry120:

I use Opera-mini on my Laptop and smart-phone, how is that a crime?

Why bother answering for Chris365 he knows what I'm talking about..... you just shut your West African mouth.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 4:56am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:


Nigeria has SBAT-70 MRLS with range of 12km ((((((BOOM))))))

Nigerian army is 3 times bigger than South Africa by soldiers, by artillery, you will be completely surrounded and swallowed up in the middle

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Useless comment, find something else to say.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 5:00am On Sep 28, 2014
iterator24: really? I'll bring it to Soweto, position it in front if your father's house, and test it out..

No, bring to Soweto, position it in front of a Ratel 90, it will be history.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 5:04am On Sep 28, 2014
chris365:

that's just evidence of one of his challenges... illeteracygrin

OperaMini man comments, useless.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 5:04am On Sep 28, 2014
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 5:10am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:


We too proved to you that NAF got new 4th Generation world class jet fighters this month, read and collapse......

"The latest fighter jets in the world would start arriving the country this week. Informed top military sources disclosed to the Nigerian Tribune at the weekend that the fighter jets, up to a dozen in number, were purchased directly by the Nigerian Air Force. The source revealed that the jets are capable of bombing in the night."


http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode


Case Proved. Case Closed

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Dream on agububu, you don't have anything of such nature. All you have are lousy 4 old generation Chinese mockups.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:10am On Sep 28, 2014
GreenandGold:

OperaMini man comments, useless.
illiterate bushman

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:13am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:


Possibly a mix of current and new. The tracked armour is MT-LB we use in UN peace-keeping. The wheeled ones cannot be identified, could be new armour, Nigerian military is very secretive as we all know.
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they should just cleanout the old inventory to give space for new ones.
we could give them out as excess defences articles to either Benin, Togo, sl or Liberia to strengthen military ties.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:39am On Sep 28, 2014
chris365:
illiterate bushman

Tell that to your countrymen who never went to school.... buhahahaha..

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:42am On Sep 28, 2014
chris365:

they should just cleanout the old inventory to give space for new ones.
we could give them out as excess defences articles to either Benin, Togo, sl or Liberia to strengthen military ties.

You giving out weapons? Since when is a military donor-recipient a donor?

#NigeriaKingofHandMeDowns
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:47am On Sep 28, 2014
GreenandGold:

You giving out weapons? Since when is a military donor-recipient a donor?

#NigeriaKingofHandMeDowns

illiterate bushman

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 7:48am On Sep 28, 2014
GreenandGold:

Tell that to your countrymen who never went to school.... buhahahaha..

and all south africans are educated? what an Id1diot.

bloody illiterate

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:59am On Sep 28, 2014
chris365:

and all south africans are educated? what an Id1diot.

bloody illiterate

buhahaha..... your father can't even write his Igbo name.... buhahah
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:59am On Sep 28, 2014
chris365:

illiterate bushman

Igbo layman
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:16am On Sep 28, 2014
iterator24: new deliveries? www.nairaland.com/attachments/1739491_military_jpeg6e22b5c3e575023534e388d59be4279d

These are Nigerian army PKO MT-LB's. Nothing new.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:19am On Sep 28, 2014
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:24am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:

Britain is a world power, they had a better Navy at that time than South Africa has today.

The British helicopters found and sank Submarine Santa Fe in that same war. Reason why I said submarines get forced to surface many times and that is when they lose their cover and get k.illed by aircraft.

ATR-42 of Nigeria is a NATO standard ELINT capable MPA & ISR dual-role 330km radar range super deadly-highly sophisticated maritime aircraft South Africa does NOT have, not even in your wildest dreams, it's surveillance Radar/FLIR/TV/Data-links capability is equal to 1,000 South Africa Submarines combined in MPA role and ISR roles.

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF...

http://www.atraircraft.com/datas/download_center/38/atr_42_surveyor_2004_38.pdf

[img]http://1.bp..com/-uWR35NrFMlA/U-1lWd9jnRI/AAAAAAAACIk/CdiJYJ1C_68/s1600/A319MPA-1.jpg[/img]

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Santa Fe was sunk because of its commander and it was an old sub.

Also keep in mind that the Santa Fe was surfaced not snorkeling.

They couldn't find the T209,which was hunting their vessels,attacking(unsuccessful though) even getting close to 5KM of their vessels without being detected.

This proves how deadly German diesel subs are,within when not in the best hands.

They slip into the operational conduct surveillance on the enemy undetected,at times follow fleets awaiting orders to engaged.

Your ATR-42 is simple maritime surveillance aircraft. You do you call a simple flying turkey "deadly"?

Nigeria has no MIL-STD data link.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 9:26am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:

Those are old Super-Hinds. Russia has built the latest....Mi-35M Hind E and that is what Nigeria has now, 12 units coming, 2 arrived already.

NAF Mi-35M Hind E is superior to both Super Hind and SAAF Rooivalk...proved today

Yesterday your South African guys got first shock that Mi-35M carries more weapon payload than your over-hyped Rooivalk turkey.

Now ALL South Africans are running away from Mi-35M Vs Rooivalk comparison challenge.....

I asked for list of weapon options each carries, NO South African had courage to answer tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Yeah keep dreaming dumb*ss
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:27am On Sep 28, 2014
MikeZA: Nigeria builts no stealth vessel.

SA installed the radars,missiles,main guns and sensor& weapons system on the frigates here at home.

What you're doing today!!!! SA did it years ago!!!!! The Chinese won't let you build a small OPV?

Watch and you'll see SA building another OPVs here!!!!!!!!! cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin

#ButtHurt!!!!!

Are you sure you can read? The Only part of F92 to be built in china is the Hull of the ship.


Nigeria has a large shipbuilding industry, with customers cutting across the military, OIL and Gas and shipping industry.

We going to install the radars, electronic equipment, comm, partitioning,armament and specialized communications ( satcoms e.t.c).


Olodo!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 9:27am On Sep 28, 2014
agaugust:

Those are old Super-Hinds. Russia has built the latest....Mi-35M Hind E and that is what Nigeria has now, 12 units coming, 2 arrived already.

NAF Mi-35M Hind E is superior to both Super Hind and SAAF Rooivalk...proved today

Yesterday your South African guys got first shock that Mi-35M carries more weapon payload than your over-hyped Rooivalk turkey.

Now ALL South Africans are running away from Mi-35M Vs Rooivalk comparison challenge.....

I asked for list of weapon options each carries, NO South African had courage to answer tongue tongue tongue tongue

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Yeah keep dreaming dumba*s
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:31am On Sep 28, 2014
AugustineAgain:

Pakistan will wipe out South Africa in one hour.

SANDF submarines have NEVER fired one single torpedo in the past 60 years grin
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"Its true because I say so"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:32am On Sep 28, 2014
AugustineAgain:

[size=14pt]ONLY one single Badger IFV exists since 2012 that you have been posting photos here tongue tongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:33am On Sep 28, 2014
AugustineAgain:

After every 48 hours your Submarine must surface-snorkel for many hours to recharge battery or else it will sink. That is the great weakness of all diesel submarines.

Those many hours of surface battery recharging is what gets submarines into disaster.

ATR-42 of Nigeria has ultra-Sophisticated equipment for detecting very tiny objects on water no mater the weather or rough sea even in a very heavy clutter environment. It has radar, FLIR, and TV spy camera.

Your snorkeling submarine runs on diesel and releases heavy heat and smoke from it's diesel engine exhaust pipe into the open air for many hours.....Invitation to death by NAF !
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Unless the ATR is directly over it or very close it wont be able to detect the tiny snorkel with its radar

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