agaugust:



All the weapons South Africa depends on to win war are imported from your white masters in Europe :

1. Gripen Jets

2. Hawk Jets

3. Rooivalk Combat Helicopter engines, it's cannon and rockets

4. Oryx Helicopter is Puma Helicopter

5. Hercules C-130 transports

6. Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns

7. Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles

8. Olifant tank is Centurion tank

9. Valour Frigate warships

10. Heroine Submarines

11. Torpedoes

12. Exocet anti-ship missiles

13. ...And many more !!


Remove all these European made heavy weapons from South Africa and watch Ghana defeat South Africa in war !
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Those are just nothing, Army wins the war. SA Army is using proudly SA made weapons.

It does not change the fact that SANDF uses 80% of indigenously made weapons.

Nigeria is a BRITISH CREATION before 1861-1950 (British Colonial era in Nigeria) they use to sell each other to Europeans during the ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE. Haiti is a Nigerian creation

agaugust:




JF-17 Thunder Block I is equal to Gripen C/D of SAAF

JF-17 Thunder Block II is superior to Gripen C/D


Gripen jet of South Africa is the old 1997 version with old and out-dated radar, there is a new modern version of Gripen jet in the world market but South Africa cannot afford it, the Gripen NG that Brazil is buying.

The technology on SAAF Gripens are almost 20 year old, NAF JF-17 Thunder is carrying current year 2014 technology.


NAF with 40 units of JF-17 Thunder + 11 F-7NI has unquestionable air superiority over SAAF.

Nigeria will soon be roasting South Africa

@LaBelle my SA ba.by girl, run to me for protection, Pretoria is gonna be invaded, come hide in my b.e.droom for 'safety' under my 'protection'.....do you like twins? I mean giving birth to twins?





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Junk Fighter block 1, 2 and 3 are all inferior to Gripen C/D. period. I told you to look at their combat radius.
Most fierce and powerful fighters which are powered by single engine have a very low combat radius reason being they carry very heavy ordnances .In contrast the Junk Fighter with all its variants carry very light ordnances.

Nigeria is a British creation Nigeria was CREATED by British in 1860 and ended in 1960 after Brits left at their own will. No WAR!!!!!Before 1860 NIGERIA WAS A TRIBAL ZONE where tribes faught over land and sold each other to Europeans "ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE ERA". Lagos and Port Harcourt and other areas on the Coast are all EUROPEAN creationd and were SLAVE PORTS. All we can say Haiti is a Nigeria creation "THEIR SELL OUT ANCESTORS SOLD OUT BLACK PEOPLE TO WHITES". Today they have PUPPETS like their few less than 70 socalled billionaires who DANCE to WESTERN TUNE. They're the eye of the western interest in Nigeria.

Their OIL ECONOMY was started by BRITISH COLONISERS and oil and gas in Nigeria was DISCOVERED by Brits in 1950s...

onumaegbuikenna:
CHAI!!!!!!!! see weapons all these southies can not handle it

All jets for marketing reasons, are put forward with those.

Thee Gripen will be armed with the deadliest missile from next year.

EVarn:
you keep prophesying it as if you are trying to convince yourself to believe the false opinions you've written.

I'm a realist, SA government to support the recommendations in the 2014 defence review will provide massive funds.

That's a fact.

agaugust:
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NAF makes JF-17 Thunder Thrill The World....The Gold Rush Begins In London !

Nigeria next to Egypt in African air power rankings !

South Africa backslides far behind !

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Ever heard about Algeria and South Africa?

patches689:


Likely a maximum of 25

By 2025 nearly half of them will be dead, as war time funding dries up and Nigeria tries to rehabilitate the North.

Cause without massive funding for social and development programmes in the North after the war, then the area will be ripe for another insurgency or rebellion.

War time purchases scare no one, Angola bought many jets to fight UNITA where are those today? Rotting!!! Unless Nigeria fails to defeat the enemy and the threat of war still hangs around like Ethiopia and Eretrea. Then funding will remain the same.

patches689:


Saudi is not looking to buy them, so that is a flat out lie.

And here is the official list of potential buyers, should we examine them?
http://thediplomat.com/2013/12/pakistan-begins-producing-block-ii-jf-17-aircraft/

- Azerbaijan: Poor
- Bangladesh: Poor
- Congo: Poor
- Egypt: Arms embargoes
- Indonesia (which has already signed an agreement with Pakistan): Poor
- Iran: Arms embargoes
- Nigeria: Poor, Arms embargoes
- the Philippines: Poor
- Sri Lanka: Poor
- Sudan: Poor
- Turkey: doubt it, they just orderd 100 F-35's from the US
- Venezuela: Arms Embargoes
- Zimbabwe: Poor and Arms embargoes

Wow, that is really an impressive list of buyers, all are 3rd world and the ones who have money are interested are only interested due to Arms Embargoes.

Even if Saudi Arabia purchases them it will be a political move.

Similar to if South Africa purchases transport planes from China, Brazil or Russia to replace the C-130BZ(s).

patches689:


Why are you posting like a 12 year old?

What jets?

You dont have any

Since we are talking about planned acquisitions, then I guess I shoot down all of your Junk Fighters with Uhmkonto ground based SAM's

#Checkmate

Also, where is your uniform and gun?

Guess Oerlikon guns with CRAM capabilities will never allow any missile, bomb and PGM(s) to hit the ground.

Air defence:

1. Jets.

2. GBADS(radars, other sensors, missiles, guns, C2 and more)

3. Air force radars.

All linked with data links, the best in the world aka Swedish.

Henry120:


The chart clearly shows the JF-17 and the Gripen been equal in overall ratings. While the JF-17 block 1 has 7 hardpoints, the Gripen has 8.

The JF-17 has 2times the combat radius of the Gripen.

The JF-17 also has a higher fuel capacity over the Gripen.

The JF-17 also has a better ferry range, service ceiling and endurance.

The JF-17 can also carry nuclear weapons.

The block II which is superior to the Gripen comes with better avionics, missile capablitiees, air-air refuelling and more.

How's that going to help it, if it made contact with a Gripen?

The Gripen is faster, carries load, better radar, better avionics, better EW kit and better weapons. The Gripen has an air refuelling probe.

It will only need to air refuel once or twice to reach Abuja.

From next year the Gripen will carry the ram jet powered meteor missile, which will be deadliest missile when it enters service first with the Gripen.

What makes the JF-17 better henry?

agaugust:


SAAF Gripen jets have a 20 year old generation radar and a poor maneuverability airframe plus a high fuel consumption Volvo grandfather engine
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Back it up!!!

The SAAF Gripens are different from others.

An air frame with canards has poor manoeuvrability?

agaugust:


That chart compares JF-17 Thunder Block I as equal to Gripen C, each having strength where the other is weak or having very very minor advantages over each other.

However the JF-17 Thunder Block II is superior to the Gripen C in combat radius, state-of-the-art avionics, dog fight maneuverability, and weapon options including the shocking fact that JF-17 carries Stealth Cruise Missiles and Nuclear weapons which are beyond the wildest dreams of the outdated obsolecent Gripen C.

NAF beats SAAF all round and in all aspects, both in quality and quantity.

Expect an invasion if Pretoria misbehaves
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Support your claims.

The Gripen carries better weapons.

EVarn:
unh..i'm willing to fund it if only you agree to transfer all the SRAAM technology to nigeria.

Now you got your answer. There's no need for this post.

Brazil will receive the tech.

agaugust:



All the weapons South Africa depends on to win war are imported from your white masters in Europe :

1. Gripen Jets

2. Hawk Jets

3. Rooivalk Combat Helicopter engines, it's cannon and rockets

4. Oryx Helicopter is Puma Helicopter

5. Hercules C-130 transports

6. Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns

7. Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles

8. Olifant tank is Centurion tank

9. Valour Frigate warships

10. Heroine Submarines

11. Torpedoes

12. Exocet anti-ship missiles

13. ...And many more !!


Remove all these European made heavy weapons from South Africa and watch Ghana defeat South Africa in war !
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If we remove foreign weapons from both sides?

A. Land.

1. Nigeria will be left with Igigiri rubbi..sh MRAP

2. To face the G5, G6, G7, Casspirs, Mambas, Rooikat, Hornets, Geckos, long range 60mm mortars, Multiple grenade launchers, automatic grenade launchers, Ingwe missiles, Bateleur Multiple rocket launcher, Valkiri MRL, Rifle grenades, Ratel Infantry fighting vehicles, Vulture UAV(s) and more

Conclusion: armed in AK-74(s) and having less than 100 MRAPS, thee Nigeria army would perish in less than 30 minutes.

B. Sea.

1. Nigeria will be left with small patrol boats.

2. To face strikecraft converted into OPV(s) but armed with two 76mm guns, machine guns and cannons. And a supply vessel to support them.

Conclusion: Nigerian navy perished with less than 50 shots from SAN.

Information: The GI-2 cannon is South African weapon based on a French cannon, 20mm choice is influenced by logistics.

The Badger will carry the newer and advanced GI-30 cannon.



People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones?

All these southies should just stop vexing and admit it our air force is better.

agaugust:



All the weapons South Africa depends on to win war are imported from your white masters in Europe :

1. Gripen Jets

2. Hawk Jets

3. Rooivalk Combat Helicopter engines, it's cannon and rockets

4. Oryx Helicopter is Puma Helicopter

5. Hercules C-130 transports

6. Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns

7. Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles

8. Olifant tank is Centurion tank

9. Valour Frigate warships

10. Heroine Submarines

11. Torpedoes

12. Exocet anti-ship missiles

13. ...And many more !!


Remove all these European made heavy weapons from South Africa and watch Ghana defeat South Africa in war !
.

And 100% of what nigeria has is imported

So what exactly is your point?

MikeCZAR:
I'm a realist, SA government to support the recommendations in the 2014 defence review will provide massive funds.
That's a fact.

LOL.OK,if you say so.

kwametut:
Nigeria is a British creation Nigeria was CREATED by British in 1860 and ended in 1960 after Brits left at their own will. No WAR!!!!!Before 1860 NIGERIA WAS A TRIBAL ZONE where tribes faught over land and sold each other to Europeans "ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE ERA". Lagos and Port Harcourt and other areas on the Coast are all EUROPEAN creationd and were SLAVE PORTS. All we can say Haiti is a Nigeria creation "THEIR SELL OUT ANCESTORS SOLD OUT BLACK PEOPLE TO WHITES". Today they have PUPPETS like their few less than 70 socalled billionaires who DANCE to WESTERN TUNE. They're the eye of the western interest in Nigeria.

Their OIL ECONOMY was started by BRITISH COLONISERS and oil and gas in Nigeria was DISCOVERED by Brits in 1950s...

OK,we've heard you,you're now noticed.now,what do you want us to do about it?

MikeCZAR:
Now you got your answer. There's no need for this post.

Brazil will receive the tech.

the tech is originally their's.

EVarn:
thanks brov,you guys are just making my day.

happy bday bro

overhypedsteve:
happy bday bro

you're sighted my brother.i appreciate.

kwametut:
Nigeria is a British creation Nigeria was CREATED by British in 1860 and ended in 1960 after Brits left at their own will. No WAR!!!!!Before 1860 NIGERIA WAS A TRIBAL ZONE where tribes faught over land and sold each other to Europeans "ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE ERA". Lagos and Port Harcourt and other areas on the Coast are all EUROPEAN creationd and were SLAVE PORTS. All we can say Haiti is a Nigeria creation "THEIR SELL OUT ANCESTORS SOLD OUT BLACK PEOPLE TO WHITES". Today they have PUPPETS like their few less than 70 socalled billionaires who DANCE to WESTERN TUNE. They're the eye of the western interest in Nigeria.

Their OIL ECONOMY was started by BRITISH COLONISERS and oil and gas in Nigeria was DISCOVERED by Brits in 1950s...

we re really happy to hear that you ve taken you nigerian history classes seriously. but however this thread is not the right place for you to display your very minute and surface knowledge on nigerian history.

MikeCZAR:
How's that going to help it, if it made contact with a Gripen?

The Gripen is faster, carries load, better radar, better avionics, better EW kit and better weapons. The Gripen has an air refuelling probe.

It will only need to air refuel once or twice to reach Abuja.

From next year the Gripen will carry the ram jet powered meteor missile, which will be deadliest missile when it enters service first with the Gripen.

What makes the JF-17 better henry?

The Gripen is slightly faster than the Block 1. Nobody's buying the Block 1. The Block 2 flies at Mach 2.

The Gripen only has a hardpoint more than the block 1, Nobody's buying the block 1. The block 2 has more.

The JF-17 Avionics as it is are better, seeing the JF-17 operates an Open Architecture, it is even "more better". Same for E.W. The Block 2 has an air-air refuelling capability.

The JF-17 would blow the Gripen up on the run way in waterkloof. With an over 1360km combat range, you should better start peeing in your pants now.

It won't increase the number of pilots you have from 8 to 9, plus, you're too broke to acquire any smart bombs.

Everything makes the JF-17 better. You should be very afraid.

patches689:


"State of the Art"

Lol, the Junk Fighter is comparable to the F16 Block 40, which entered service in the late 80's

Your ranting won't put back your 26 A109's back in the air.

Clown.

agaugust:


Na Idris Deby go envy us pass with his 3 tokunbo MiG-29, while Paul Biya will soon be sending Christmas gifts to Abuja to hide his fear and trembling.

As for Jacob Zuma, he now knows what makes Nigeria a giant
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40 planes, who no go fear?

Lol

Henry120:


The Gripen is slightly faster than the Block 1. Nobody's buying the Block 1. The Block 2 flies at Mach 2.

The Gripen only has a hardpoint more than the block 1, Nobody's buying the block 1. The block 2 has more.

The JF-17 Avionics as it is are better, seeing the JF-17 operates an Open Architecture, it is even "more better". Same for E.W. The Block 2 has an air-air refuelling capability.

The JF-17 would blow the Gripen up on the run way in waterkloof. With an over 1360km combat range, you should better start peeing in your pants now.

It won't increase the number of pilots you have from 8 to 9, plus, you're too broke to acquire any smart bombs.

Everything makes the JF-17 better. You should be very afraid.

Junk Fighter block 2 is on par with F16 block 40 from the late 80's

Its no contest

mzilakazi:
SA is still with the Nigeria's seized money

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/172364-exclusive-contrary-reports-south-africa-still-holding-nigerias-seized-15-million-arms-money.html

Because we scared you to refund it or sell the weapons, the choice is yours between the two options we force down your trembling throats, and you are obeying our commands with fear and apology mixed together

"The paper said it saw two letters written by a Minister in the South African Presidency, Jeff Radebe, in which he promised to assist Nigeria ensure that an arms sale worth $9.3m (about R100-million), which had been blocked by South Africa, would proceed.

The Mail & Guardian reported that Radebe wrote to JP “Torie” Pretorius of the Directorate for Priority Crime Investigations (the Hawks), and Dumisani Dladla, the head of the national conventional arms control committee secretariat, seeking to assist the Nigerian government to get the weapons.

Nigeria wanted the arms, including helicopters and ammunition, to fight against the Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.

In October, the Asset Forfeiture Unit seized $5.7m that had been wired to Standard Bank in South Africa. Three weeks before that, $9.3m in cash was confiscated after being brought into the country via Lanseria Airport, north of Johannesburg, in three suitcases, by a delegation said to represent the Nigerian government.

In both instances, the money was apparently confiscated as the transactions it was to be used for were illegal.

In his letters, Radebe, the chairperson of the arms control committee, said it had come to the committee’s attention that the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria.”

“Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” Radebe said in his letters to Dladla and Pretorius."

http://www.punchng.com/news/safrica-nigeria-barter-dead-bodies-for-arms-report/

South Africa is either sending the weapons or the money....or else we will auction MTN for peanuts to a Nigerian Globacom

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Henry120:


Your ranting won't put back your 26 A109's back in the air.

Clown.

Who said they were permanently grounded?

Henry120:


40 planes, who no go fear?

Lol

26 planes

And there is nothing to fear from obsolete fighters as capable as those from the 80s