patches689:


You are posting private opinions of people.

Not facts.

Re-enforcement were flown in mid battle in Bangui.

You couldent even rotate troops out of the Sudan

patches689:


Henry120

see my other posts.

There no shocking info here. SANDF is running its aquisitions as announced.

No money was set aside this year for the aquisition of new transports.

Henry120:

I see you are also blind

However, the money to be spent on the new jets was originally earmarked to buy crucial freight carriers needed for South African troops abroad.


Zuma has blown away the money.

Henry120:


It's a well held fact, your troops were roundly defeated in the CAR. That's not his personal opinion.

Henry120:

I see you are also blind

However, the money to be spent on the new jets was originally earmarked to buy crucial freight carriers needed for South African troops abroad.


Zuma has blown away the money.

lezz:

A forum that had the names and figures of all the commanding officers and number of troops from each battalion?

A forum that intercepted a radio communication message by SANDF reporting the actual lose of troops in battle to be later modified by SANDF propaganda writers?

A forum that confirmed the claims of dozen of other forum who attested to the falsification of war casualties by your inefficient generals?

This "forum" that reported the actual model and specification of your troops, artillery, armoured vehicles and tanks.

Well I have just proved that a forum is more authentic, detailed and reliable than your propaganda sources of deceit and lies.

Not even Chester Crocker can deny this.
But you can, because acknowledgement of truth is way beyond your capabilities.

DENIAL DO NOT CHANGE FACTS

Patchesagain:


Project was announced last year and money set aside in this years budget for it

In much the same way that aquisition of MPA's and Transport aircraft were announced this year and money in next years budget set aside for it.

Dont you know how government budgeting works?

Patchesagain:


To be defeated means we failed to meet an objective

What objective did we fail to meet?

Henry120:


You are getting no transport planes. For a country that has only 3 C-130's it is astonishingly pitiable that your Government thinks it's better to use the funds designated for troop transports for luxurious jets.

Useless country.

Henry120:


You were roundly and comprehensively defeated. All sources on the ground allude to this fact.

MikeCZAR:
Nigerian troops lost towns after towns without any reinforcement. Nigeria also bought a VIP helicopter last year while BH controlled towns.

48 hours under a short notice SAAF was able to deploy reinforcements.

No country in sub-saharan Africa could've done a thing during the Battle of Bangui, as no country has capability to airlift helicopters the size of the Rooivalk and Oryx without removing their gearboxes.

There is a project to get new airlift aircraft, people are just saying why buy VVIP instead of getting airlifters first.

lezz:
hmb, tattered looking soldiers. Really looking unfit.

Patchesagain:


To be defeated means we failed in our primary objective

What was the primary objective we failed to meet?

Henry120:


Nigeria did not loose a single shred of grass to any terrorist. Our Mantra has and would always remain, the Federal Government has not and did not concede any territory to terrorists".

Nigeria bought 2 VIP helicopters and ordered 40 Helicopters ( MI-35p/MI-35M/MI-17termintor1SH and Gazelle) for the military. The government didn't stop there. They went ahead and got 2 additional Transport planes for the NAF.

Compare that to a South-African Government that blew away money meant for Troop Transports on luxury jets.


SAAF deployed No reinforcements to bangui, you were defeated and you ran away. Pathetic Nation of incompetent cowards.


There is no project to get transport planes, as Zuma has blown away the money meant for Transport planes.

African Big man style.

Afterall, you said visiting Algeria and Egypt is more important than the lives of SANDF troops.

Shame, 3 Transport planes for a country the size of South-Africa.

Henry120:


Nigeria did not loose a single shred of grass to any terrorist. Our Mantra has and would always remain, the Federal Government has not and did not concede any territory to terrorists".

Nigeria bought 2 VIP helicopters and ordered 40 Helicopters ( MI-35p/MI-35M/MI-17termintor1SH and Gazelle) for the military. The government didn't stop there. They went ahead and got 2 additional Transport planes for the NAF.

Compare that to a South-African Government that blew away money meant for Troop Transports on luxury jets.


SAAF deployed No reinforcements to bangui, you were defeated and you ran away. Pathetic Nation of incompetent cowards.


There is no project to get transport planes, as Zuma has blown away the money meant for Transport planes.

African Big man style.

Afterall, you said visiting Algeria and Egypt is more important than the lives of SANDF troops.

Shame, 3 Transport planes for a country the size of South-Africa.

Henry120:


You are a confused band of ill-trained literates posing as an Army.

The SANDF failed on all it's objectives, begged for mercy, begged the french and ran away.

lezz:
When I dropped the source for you, everyone could as well see it. Your screams of announcement of discovery is FALSE and misleading, typical South African.

And what forum are you talking about, do you mean a forum like nairaland?

The facts are undisputable, the details clear and names and commanders where boldly written. There was also another revelation, South African didn't even led that war as my last post revealed.

Henry120:


You are getting no transport planes. For a country that has only 3 C-130's it is astonishingly pitiable that your Government thinks it's better to use the funds designated for troop transports for luxurious jets.

Useless country.

Patchesagain:


How did you recapture 35 towns if you lost no towns?

VIP transport aquisitions were budgeted and planned for last year - to be realized this year
MPA's and transports were budgeted and planned for this year - to be realized next year

SANDF deployed re-enforcements to CAR - this is indepsutable fact

35 transports for a country the size of South Africa and an SANDF of 82,000 (2342 men per plane)

Compared to Nigeria with 17 transport aircraft for a military of 130,000 (7647 men per plane)

You have no argument, stop wasting my time.

Henry120:


Nigeria did not loose a single shred of grass to any terrorist. Our Mantra has and would always remain, the Federal Government has not and did not concede any territory to terrorists".

Nigeria bought 2 VIP helicopters and ordered 40 Helicopters ( MI-35p/MI-35M/MI-17termintor1SH and Gazelle) for the military. The government didn't stop there. They went ahead and got 2 additional Transport planes for the NAF.

Compare that to a South-African Government that blew away money meant for Troop Transports on luxury jets.


SAAF deployed No reinforcements to bangui, you were defeated and you ran away. Pathetic Nation of incompetent cowards.


There is no project to get transport planes, as Zuma has blown away the money meant for Transport planes.

African Big man style.

Afterall, you said visiting Algeria and Egypt is more important than the lives of SANDF troops.

Shame, 3 Transport planes for a country the size of South-Africa.

Patchesagain:


No - you have an imaginary budget. Do you know what a budget is? Do you need a lesson in accounting?

The money has been allocated within the budgets and presented before parliament.

I dont know what you expect from us, a photo of a pile of cash?

agaugust:


News report of purchase order or contract for payment. Funds transfer.

Prove it....SANDF is broke, no new aircraft for you !

All the photos of new strategic air lift aircraft and heavy weight torpedoes, or stealth OPV is rubbish, NO MONEY O !


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agaugust:


News report of purchase order or contract for payment. Funds transfer.

Prove it....SANDF is broke, no new aircraft for you !

All the photos of new strategic air lift aircraft and heavy weight torpedoes, or stealth OPV is rubbish, NO MONEY O !


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Patchesagain:

Stop moving the goalposts

First you said we cant deploy 3000 men for training.

I proved you wrong.

Then you said those men have no equipment and posted a picture of men on a parade to try to prove it.

I proved you wrong.

Augustus. Every single soldier within the SANDF has the same basic equipment. We arent Nigeria - we dont need our soldiers to buy their own personal kit

SANDF is standardized and has kit nigeria could only dream of.

SANDF is proved poorly kitted, you CANNOT kit just 3,000 troops. Nigeria beats you hands down on soldiers kit
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Msauza:
Nigeria bought all that when they were put on the corner of destruction. SA would do the same and even outdone Nigeria in procuring arms because we have 3X more revenues than your government.
SA were not defeated in Bangui and our parliament took decision to call off their deployments because there was no government anymore in Bangui.Did you expert SA to kill all Seleka rebels and suffer the blames from the world that they have now become imperialists?
Meanwhile,the only nation that lost the battle on their playground is none other than Nigerian troops.BH defeated them with rusty weapons to the extent that they ran helter skelter buying illegal weapons and even recruiting mercenaries.BH proved more powerful than Nigerian troops.If it were not for mercenaries,almost half of the Nigerian territory would have been lost to BH.
Thanks Nigeria for voting Buhari in power

agaugust:


Bwahahaha

See who is talking !

The SANDF troops below DO NOT have standard kit....see the American soldiers beside SANDF....you claim Southie has NATO standards

Your South African troops in operation zone photos below have lots of MISSING KIT for most of them !

1. No gloves
2. No knee pads
3. No bullet proof vests
4. No helmets
Over half of the troops you put into that 3,000 men SANDF training with Americans have no fvcking SANDF kits, see them incomplete !

Half kitted SANDF troops . LOL

You just proved us right, in that ops where SANDF was forced to deploy 3,000 men, over half CANNOT get complete kit !!!!

So you guys have been deceiving us on this forum for 4 years, showing photos of 10 to 20 SANDF soldiers fully kitted in various photos, now we forced you to post photos from a 3,000 troop operation and ALL WE SEE ARE SANDF TROOPS WITH MISSING VITAL KITS

Many have no helmet, no gloves, no knee pads, even worse no body armour or bullet proof vests.

SANDF is proved poorly kitted, you CANNOT kit just 3,000 troops. Nigeria beats you hands down on soldiers kit
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Henry120:


You are a confused band of ill-trained literates posing as an Army.

The SANDF failed on all it's objectives, begged for mercy, begged the french and ran away.

Patchesagain:


Unlike Nigerian soldiers:

- they all have the same uniforms

agaugust:


Bwahahaha

See who is talking !

The SANDF troops below DO NOT have standard kit....see the American soldiers beside SANDF....you claim Southie has NATO standards

Your South African troops in operation zone photos below have lots of MISSING KIT for most of them !

1. No gloves
2. No knee pads
3. No bullet proof vests
4. No helmets
Over half of the troops you put into that 3,000 men SANDF training with Americans have no fvcking SANDF kits, see them incomplete !

Half kitted SANDF troops . LOL

You just proved us right, in that ops where SANDF was forced to deploy 3,000 men, over half CANNOT get complete kit !!!!

So you guys have been deceiving us on this forum for 4 years, showing photos of 10 to 20 SANDF soldiers fully kitted in various photos, now we forced you to post photos from a 3,000 troop operation and ALL WE SEE ARE SANDF TROOPS WITH MISSING VITAL KITS

Many have no helmet, no gloves, no knee pads, even worse no body armour or bullet proof vests.

SANDF is proved poorly kitted, you CANNOT kit just 3,000 troops. Nigeria beats you hands down on soldiers kit
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agaugust:


SANDF has only one uniform ....Bwahahaha....your deep brown camo uniform will make your soldiers easy target in a yellow sand desert.

Standard armies like America, Russia, etc have different army uniforms for different terrain combat.\

Nigeria has jungle camo, desert camo, and urban camo uniforms for our troops, we even now added one universal semi-desert uniform.

Nigerian army is superior to SANDF in kit and uniform.

Those SANDF dark brownie uniforms will get your soldiers killed from 2 km away in yellow sand desert war, no wonder SANDF never likes to fight outside homeland South Africa

Show us SANDF desert camo, below is Nigeria ! We are superior, we fight all over the world, all terrain army of Naija !

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