all4naija: [i] It is right to know this comment reflects not on anything significant in this present generation of sovereignty and wealth.

all4naija: This your comment just proved a point that we should relax and wait to be invaded. That a wise nation will never listened to.

all4naija: Go Nigeria! Upgrade your outdated weapons!

all4naija: I like when it makes SA salivates and stop encroaching on smaller nations within the continent with its economic imperialism.[/i]

agaugust: .

missile range is 30km against any type of enemy jet aircraft

ssaengine:

And unfortunately for you, we can hit this target at 40km. Before you can even launch at us.

sithwell:

Does this even make sense, All4Naija? What does this mean?



Today, internal uprisings are more of a threat to most nations than invasion is. Even the weakest military nation is protected by allies against the threat of invasion. Pointless talking about invasion. Nationhood on the other hand, yes. That's where the issue is.



Yes, go forth - and neglect your infrastructure, internal peace and liberties. Who cares about nationhood,right? Makes perfect sense.

sithwell:

Which land, exactly? The land that is currently being contested for as part of a small-scale war; and sought to be cut up? The land that some Nigerians have decided they will fight their own government for?

Imperialism is part of the story of prosperity. The question I ask is simple - after you're done fighting for "the land of your forefathers", what do you point to, to justify the deaths of your heroes in Nigeria?

Every soldier needs a cause; and the Nigerian soldiers, as a unit have no cause outside pride. If they think they do have a cause, it's a phantom cause that has never been achieved in years and years of fighting.

South Africa does not have a small-scale war within its borders today. When the government says "go and fight freedoms attained in 1994", soldiers look around and they see that.

What do Nigerian soldiers see when they look around. A war within their own borders? And then you want to walk about waging wars against other nations? You're piling military hardware sky-high. For what, exactly?

agaugust:



....but unfortunately for you Akash radar range detects enemy incoming guided bombs and missiles from 180km away and defends itself by firing anti-missile missiles

Just as I said before, you are just a copy and paste internet weapons photographer. You don't know the real live art of war and battlefields combat.

Go sit down men !

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ssaengine:


It doesn't matter if the radar can scan 10 000 000km, if the missile can only travel 30km. 1 Gripen and 1 Hawk can neutralize this system. Armed with Umbani and A-Darter missiles. Destroying them 1 battery at a time.

solomon111: your 1 grippen and 1 hawk will disable Nigeria's defence system without being shot down?
I pity your pilots.

agaugust:



....but unfortunately for you Akash radar range detects enemy incoming guided bombs and missiles from 180km away and defends itself by firing anti-missile missiles

Just as I said before, you are just a copy and paste internet weapons photographer. You don't know the real live art of war and battlefields combat.

Go sit down men !

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ssaengine:

No. I said this system. Don't put words from your imagination. A fully loaded Hawk and fully loaded Gripen will destroy it, simple as that. You only have 3 missiles to work with. If we enter your range of 30km and also fire our Umbani at you, you have to decide.....do you try shoot down the jets (which can defend themselves with A-Darter) or do you try destroy Umbani? Either it ends bad for you.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]nigeria's new and up coming 2013 air defence missiles[/size]


first mentioned by @Henry




weblink source : http://beegeagle./2013/03/07/india-to-help-nigeria-modernise-her-air-defences-spotlight-on-the-indian-made-akash-medium-range-area-defence-missile-system/

solomon111: i laugh.

ssaengine:

If you don't have a come back, then I laugh at your laugh

ssaengine:

No. I said this system. Don't put words from your imagination. A fully loaded Hawk and fully loaded Gripen will destroy it, simple as that. You only have 3 missiles to work with. If we enter your range of 30km and also fire our Umbani at you, you have to decide.....do you try shoot down the jets (which can defend themselves with A-Darter) or do you try destroy Umbani? Either it ends bad for you.

solomon111: it's just funny when someone thinks 1 grippen and 1 hawk with whatever conventional missile,will destroy Nigeria's defence system.
Only a southafrican with a massively overrated military can reason like that.
The seleka rebels haven't taught you guys any lesson yet.
Once again,i laugh.

agaugust:


Your bush village Zulu spear combat tactics makes you think Nigeria buys only one missile launcher ?

Roland SAM Nigeria has 16 launchers with 300 missiles and all 300 missiles can be fired in 5 minutes.

Nigeria never buys few missiles for air defense, we buy enough to defend us against the great Egyptian air force champions of Africa in the air.

You seem to be interested in south African jet pilots going back to their creator at an early age.

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sithwell:

Assuming you're correct in the first place (which obviously, you aren't), the "imperialism" is economic and the "imperialism" bears fruit. What's the story behind Nigeria's "military reach"?

Where are Nigeria's assets and interests in other countries, which need protection?

Where's Nigeria's social wealth, within Nigeria, which gives meaning to all these weapons that we see on display here? You do not always need war to build a nation or to hold it together. But if you're going to wage war, then you better have something to point to, as a tangible outcome of all your heroics.

What's Nigeria's story of war?

solomon111: WTF are you saying?
That imperialism is a worthy course?
We are defending our country against islamist funded by foreign interests.
Surely,that's something worth dying for.
Even if Nigeria divides tommorrow(which is very very unlikely),the lands will go to the original owners(NIGERIANS),and it will be free of terrorists.
This is a more worthy course than bullying small countries.

sithwell:

Foaming at the mouth is not going to help you answer the question. I'm saying prosperity is a worthy cause. South Africa has interests - even in Nigeria. If you want to call that imperialism and bullying small countries, then so be it.

Nigeria has had decades within which to put together a nation. It boasts two military occupations, a current terrorist insurgency, infrastructure that's not where it needs to be, a huge section of the population that wants out of the nation and is happy to kill fellow Nigerians for the honour . Yet here you are talking about your military abilities.

So, "WTF" am I saying? I'm saying you are wasting time, money and lives. The results aren't at the same level that your military spending is in. It's all senseless bravado.

ssaengine: If the Nigerian SAM system was to fail. What is plan b for Nigeria? What modern jets can they scramble up to defend their airspace?

ssaengine: If the Nigerian SAM system was to fail. What is plan b for Nigeria? What modern jets can they scramble up to defend their airspace?

all4naija:

On the social wealth thing Nigeria fair low but so can be said about your society.

Thank you.

ssaengine:

Please don't flood the internet talking about Roland. Maybe if this was 1980 you could write me a letter telling me about it, and I would be impressed. And you don't even have Akash yet, if you're even going to get it.

agaugust:


Are you going to use sangboma herbalists medicine to make Nigerian air defense systems to fail ?

Come closer boys...nigerian missiles will love to kiss some south African jets in the name love !

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agaugust:

Nigeria has Roland missiles already. Beegeagle website and Indian newspapers says India is modernising nigérian air defence totally.

What do you think Nigeria is buying now from India as modern air defense weapons to replace our Roland ? Bows, Arrows and Spears ?


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sithwell:

Foaming at the mouth is not going to help you answer the question. I'm saying prosperity is a worthy cause. South Africa has interests - even in Nigeria. If you want to call that imperialism and bullying small countries, then so be it.

Nigeria has had decades within which to put together a nation. It boasts two military occupations, a current terrorist insurgency, infrastructure that's not where it needs to be, a huge section of the population that wants out of the nation and is happy to kill fellow Nigerians for the honour. Yet here you are talking about your military abilities.

So, "WTF" am I saying? I'm saying you are wasting time, money and lives. The results aren't at the same level that your military spending is in. It's all senseless bravado.

all4naija: What have you to say of Apartheid?