agaugust: hey south african guys, everytime you write about all that your country has in terms of technology, always remember to say thank you sir, to your boer white-man masters who build every good thing in your country, and they are stll the brains behind every good thing in south african today as far as technology is concerned. for me, i dont know if i can boast of what someone else built during the time i hated that same person, then i now boast...i have this, i have that ! you get my point ?

sometimes when you want to measure your level, try compare your blacks with other blacks in africa, like ghana, afterall your white-masters set you free since about 20 years ago, be grateful to the boer and dont kill him.

agaugust: andrewza i will answer you after i post two new comments for snydergp and msauza to read so that they will not over rate south african military again. every country has old weapons, nigeria has, and south africa has old weapons too, very very many. lol

andrewza dont make excuses for the next two posts below, stay out of this, until after snydergp and msauza make one silly excuse for old south african weapons, since they know how to insult nigerian weapons, let me hear them talk like 3 year old children here today and prove to us how they will use those museum piece weapons to defeat nigeria, the giant of africa. lol.

agaugust:

the whole world knows south africa paid millions or billions of dollars to israel for direct transfer of nuclear power to south africa. no country has ever built nuclear power on its own without the help of USA or RUSSIA, all other countries paid money to buy it and get it transferred from the first two super nuclear powers of the world, that is what britain, france, china, and israel did. india, pakistan, and iran also paid billions of dollars to russia or china to get nuclear weapons transffered technology. this is open news the whole world knows.

be honest south africans, your scientists did NOT develop nuclear power at home, you paid money to the government of isreal that was desperate for cash to transfer nuclear power to south african soil and teach you how to manage it. the whole world knows that, and it was the reason OAU of africa now AU, was always against israel even after the egypt israeli war ended long ago. dont try to take glory that does not belong to you okay?

south africa is an over-rated balloon, good country, but grossly over-rated with a false air of 'invincibility'. go sit down.

Neuen: List of modern armoured fighting vehicles

South Africa

AFVs produced in South Africa

Tanks
Olifant (complete indigenous overhaul of Centurion)

Armoured fighting vehicles
Eland
Marauder
Matador
Maverick
Mbombe
Rooikat AFV

Infantry fighting vehicles
Ratel IFV (to be replaced by Hoefyster)

Armoured personnel carriers
Buffel
Casspir
Hippo MkI
Hippo MkII
RG-12
Mamba APC
Puma (South African, new construction similar to Mamba [1])
RG-31 Nyala
RG-32
Okapi MPV
[edit]
Self-propelled guns
G6 howitzer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_armoured_fighting_vehicles

Msauza:

Your lack of knowledge has clouded your thinking. SA during apartheid had both Nuclear scientists and chemical warfare expects. They assembled the nuclear weapons down here in SA and not in Israel. We were under arms embargo and cannot understand what does it have to do with US and RUSSIA.

This shows the capability that SA does not rely or depend on other couuntries. Under sanctions SA managed to feed its own people for many years and food then was even more cheaper than it is today because it was plenty and there were no exports. Without oil imports we managed to convert coal into oil which is still the practice we are committed to. Without weapons we developed our own.
Can Nigeria ever survive such harsh conditions, where even today their citizens are all over the world searching for better life, conning people by 419 or asking for food in foreign nation. Ask Agaugust maybe is part of 419 scam. He will confirm that to you.

sheyie2007:
you praise your techies like they were built by you blacks, your dimwitted people(blacks) are xenophobic, murderers and molesters.. we black Nigerians will be forever superior to your blacks anyday... yes it's true, we have bad eggs amongst us and so far, 419 is only thing you can point out, but come down here to the west and see how many business savvy Nigerians are prospering.. the future is bright brov...

andrewza:

firstly there many smart and suscfull blanksin South Africa just look at MTN. And whites in SA are south africans

sheyie2007:
you praise your techies like they were built by you blacks, your dimwitted people(blacks) are xenophobic, murderers and molesters.. we black Nigerians will be forever superior to your blacks anyday... yes it's true, we have bad eggs amongst us and so far, 419 is only thing you can point out, but come down here to the west and see how many business savvy Nigerians are prospering.. the future is bright brov... Irrespective of the nigerians into drugs down there, I learnt many hold professional jobs and good businesses as well, don't expect a country with a population of over 160millie to have only good peeps.... yours is 5#millie, the homicide and child molestation rate is alarming..deal with your problems man!

sheyie2007:
I'm not saying you don't have any, but labeling Nigerians as 419 is the dumbest thing to say..that's the point.. speaking of mtn, tell me there was no white involvement during it's inception and I'd keep quiet...

andrewza: for intrist sake here is a centueion MBT of the 1950s and a olphant mk1b

agaugust:

south african army's refurbished centurion tank is old engine that welders re-plated and painters re-painted...."new wine in old bottle",
dont be offended andrewza , that is the same way south africans on this forum have been rubbishing nigerian weapons that we refurbished in europe and USA including our navy's ship NNS THUNDER we bought from USA coast guard forces, your people called our ship 'an old cutter', so all your 30 years to 50 years old refurbished and repainted south african military armoured tanks and warships are 'old museum cargo'. try and taste the same bitter medicine you put in other peoples mouth, especially south africans like msauza and snydergp the two 'clowns'.

souldust: we have culturally colonized someone in here, he even uses an Igbo word tufiakwa! (God forbid!). Zulu words are unknown here in nigeria.

agaugust:

south african army's refurbished centurion tank is old engine that welders re-plated and painters re-painted...."new wine in old bottle",
dont be offended andrewza , that is the same way south africans on this forum have been rubbishing nigerian weapons that we refurbished in europe and USA including our navy's ship NNS THUNDER we bought from USA coast guard forces, your people called our ship 'an old cutter', so all your 30 years to 50 years old refurbished and repainted south african military armoured tanks and warships are 'old museum cargo'. try and taste the same bitter medicine you put in other peoples mouth, especially south africans like msauza and snydergp the two 'clowns'.

Msauza:

You are Superior, but how many heros who are international icons did you produce. I have many videos of Nigerians who were killing one another savagely in the name of Allah. At school you studied about our black heroes and your children continue to do so. Our children never leant anything about any of your heroes at school even us unless we conducted our own independent research.

sheyie2007:
wow! do you think BH boys are really Nigerians? research on it.. you know nothing man.. your children neva learnt anything cuz their brain capacity is low.. this is why nigerian high school students always top international competitions.. go figure! the only hero recognized from your country is Mandela, after him, the rest of you are cowards, that's why you worship him like god... "white man thingz" ..lol...

Msauza:

Nelson Mandela, Walter Sisulu, oliver Tambo, Chris Hani, Desmond Tutu and in music Miriam Makeba, Lucky Dube, Brenda Fassie, Yvone Chaka Chaka, etc surely you know them all.

Msauza: Nigeria-South African investment= Raining forest

Msauza:

Your lack of knowledge has clouded your thinking. SA during apartheid had both Nuclear scientists and chemical warfare expects. They assembled the nuclear weapons down here in SA and not in Israel. We were under arms embargo and cannot understand what does it have to do with US and RUSSIA.

This shows the capability that SA does not rely or depend on other couuntries. Under sanctions SA managed to feed its own people for many years and food then was even more cheaper than it is today because it was plenty and there were no exports. Without oil imports we managed to convert coal into oil which is still the practice we are committed to. Without weapons we developed our own.
Can Nigeria ever survive such harsh conditions, where even today their citizens are all over the world searching for better life, conning people by 419 or asking for food in foreign nation. Ask Agaugust maybe is part of 419 scam. He will confirm that to you.

souldust: and you mssauza mentioned the bible being brought to us. To you, thats a development! Hmmmmm. But to be honest, christianity is just another faith. Whats wrong with the worship of the Ifa deity? Now i can see how much apartheid dealth with you. Sorry my brother.

sheyie2007:
sorry to disappoint you mhhen, Mandela is overrated that's why he's the only guy I know.. don't know about others, you can't ask other Nigerians abt them

souldust: we were under sever sanction during the time of Abacha. We stood strongly against the west and we survived.

andrewza:

The man stoped a war and spared his enemys life because he knew he needed them.

Msauza:

Your comment is so stupid, it shows how exposed am I coz there are so many Nigerians in SA doing prostitution and drugs. Many of the Nigerian ladies are prostitutes here and ask for R30 a round and their husbands are working in my garden for R50 a day. How will you know Zulu coz you hardly see Zulus in Nigeria? Tufiakwa!!!

Msauza: Nigeria-South African investment= Raining forest