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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:10am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza:

Whatever!! Mr 98% failure rate

i defeated you and @crazeB with WAEC and NECO source weblink facts. go kiss a cockroach grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:10am On Aug 13, 2013
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:14am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza: @Agaugust

Warrant Officer Nikolai Feodorovich Pestretsov is the russian soldier who was captured as prisoner of war by the SADF and google will even confirm it to you. The warrant officer was captured and his colleagues were killed and that was more than enough to prove the intervention of Russian troops in Angola.

Read further:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Protea

there is nothing like that in the above source weblink you posted, except that it says 5,000 south african soldiers were inside angola, contrary to the south african propaganda claim that it had only 3,000 soldiers on the battle front line.

thank you for proving another south african war propaganda lie to be a very big lie grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:16am On Aug 13, 2013
agaugust:

good reason why we should not believe that forum. @msauza is there, fraud and lies will be many there too grin

Lol! @Agaugust sometimes you just deny the fact for no reason. Come on if you know nothing about bush war just ask me I will be willing to pledge my time and teach you.

Tell me what do you know about Russian cargo ships fully loaded with weapons in Angola? What happened to them
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:18am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza: @Agaugust must read about this:

In 2009/10 a number of US students studying in South African Universities has increased by 12.4%

http://www.southafrica.info/news/usstudents-171110.htm

you just proved me right with the above post. thank you. read your own source below...

"The 12 percent growth in American students in South Africa really highlights the strength of the higher education system here in this country, as well as the strong partnership between US and South African institutions of higher learning," Priester said on Monday.

Priester said that the US was looking forward to increasing the number of US students who traveled to South Africa, as well as South Africans who studied in the US.

"It is exactly this type of exchange that strengthens friendship and understanding between nations."

it is an ordinary students exchange programme, meaning the south africans are compelled to go to america too grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:23am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza:

Tell me what do you know about Russian cargo ships fully loaded with weapons in Angola? What happened to them

nothing.

they are cargo transport ships anyway...not the soviet navy warships that will launch nuclear missiles and delete south africa from world map grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:30am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza:

South Africa planning to procure new arms worth more than $7billion (R70billion) which is double the initial arms deal (R30 billion) then $6 billion. The previous arms deal included among others procurement of Griffins, Submarines and frigates.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/closed-talks-on-plans-for-weapons-1.1549062

Suid Afrika se mense ek wil hulle maar net fok rond, die is nie waarheid nie.

Ke nyaka go dlala ka bona fela

Nyifuni uku dlala ngabo ukuphela.

this is our big proof that south africans lie a lot on this forum. below is the english translation of what @msauza said in Afrikaans language.


Suid Afrika se mense ek wil hulle maar net fok rond, die is nie waarheid nie.

South Africa's people I want them to just f..u..c..k around, that is not true.


tongue tongue tongue


[img]http://3.bp..com/-_HMykm4_iKE/UCXHrIug5tI/AAAAAAAAAqA/ItvhTNHjxHs/s200/big_lie1.jpg[/img]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:37am On Aug 13, 2013
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anyway, here is nigeria's own and ours is true

[size=16pt]Nigerian Navy wants 49 ships, 42 helicopters and 3 submarines in next decade[/size]


"The Nigerian Navy is seeking government approval there to acquire up to 49 ships and 42 helicopters over the next ten years.

The This Day newspaper reported last week that the Chief of Naval Staff Vice Admiral Ishaya Ibrahim stated that the Nigerian sea service needed the vessels and aircraft to police the nation`s territorial waterways and Gulf of Guinea.

The French ADIT research agency says in its weekly newsletter that Nigeria is home to Africa`s largest oil reserve, most of it located offshore.

ADIT says the 10 year plan would unfold in three phases.

In the first, scheduled to last two years, Abuja will procure two light frigates and two 85-metre offshore patrol vessels (OPVs).

The second phase will span between two and five years, during which 10 OPVs, 20 helicopters, 1 hydrographic ship and two mine-countermeasure vessels (MVMVs) would be purchased.

The last phase would see Nigeria acquire three conventional submarines, two corvettes, two landing platforms dock (LPDs) and 20 long-range maritime patrol helicopters."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4023&Itemid=363


nigerian navy plans to buy 3 attack submarines
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:45am On Aug 13, 2013
agaugust:

show proof of the above claim. the jews in nigeria are white like snow grin

Why do I have to teach you everything Agaugust. Everybody that is practising Judaism is a Jew irrespective of colour of the skin. There are many of such Jew in Ethiopia.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:53am On Aug 13, 2013
Msauza:

Why do I have to teach you everything Agaugust. Everybody that is practising Judaism is a Jew irrespective of colour of the skin. There are many of such Jew in Ethiopia.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html

there are black jews in israel too, including a nigerian israeli army soldier shlomo adesina who dies in battle with islamic terrorists about 10 years ago.

show me proof of your claim that ethiopian jews are blacks and no whites among them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:08am On Aug 13, 2013
@AGAUGUST READY THE ATTACHED LINK AND PLEASE FORWARD A LIST OF COUNTRIES THAT BUYS WEAPONS FROM NIGERIA AND NOTE THAT GERMANY, SAUDI ARABIA, EGYPT AND THE UNITED STATES ALSO BOUGHT FROM SOUTH AFRICA

The South African defence industry sold R1.7 billion worth or armaments in the second quarter of this year, down from R2.8 billion for the same period last year.

The figures were released by the National Conventional Arms Control Committee (NCACC) in its second quarterly report to Parliament on Thursday, the New Age reports. The R1.7 billion worth of military equipment was sold between April and June this year, mostly to the United States and Sweden.

This is down from the R2.8 billion worth of military hardware sold between April 1 and June 30, 2012. Between January and March 2012, the NCACC approved 16 contracts worth R521 million and approved 437 export permits to 42 countries worth R1.56 billion.

The NCACC’s second quarterly report for this year revealed that the biggest sale was worth R555 million and went to Sweden. Thailand bought R505 million worth of equipment and the United States R375 million.

The New Age reported that Azerbaijan spent R131 million on South African military hardware, Finland R129 million, Egypt R17.9 million, the United Arab Emirates R113 million and the United Kingdom R46 million. The equipment the countries bought was not stated, however, the NCACC did say that mine clearance equipment was sold for use in Syria, with hardware worth R26 million sold to the United Nations for demining in that country.

Meanwhile, Germany bought R56 million worth of South African military equipment; Saudi Arabia R61 million and Pakistan R45 million.

The trade in conventional arms and the rendering of foreign military assistance is regulated by the NCACC, which reports to Parliament, as well as the Directorate Conventional Arms Control (DCAC). South African arms traders are required to be registered with the DCAC. Permits are required for weapons development and manufacturing, marketing, contracting, exporting, importing or transferring of conventional arms. This includes; weapons, munitions, vessels designed for war, articles of war, and related systems, components, technologies, dual-use goods or services.

The NCACC said that in 2011 it issued 3 672 export permits to 82 countries and these were worth R9.18 billion. Figures released to Parliament show that South Africa exported R8.329 billion worth of arms to 89 countries in 2010 versus R7.812 billion to 96 nations in 2009 and R5.898 billion to 88 states in 2008.

NOTE
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31511:sa-sold-r17-billion-of-arms-in-second-quarter-of-2013&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:15am On Aug 13, 2013
@AGAUGUST READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A NIGERIAN JOURNALSIT ABOUT THE COMAPARISON ON CORRUPTION BETWEEN NIGERIA AND SOUTH AFRICA

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=what%20nigerian%20journalist%20praised%20for%20south%20africa&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.citypress.co.za%2Fcolumnists%2Fnigerians-dont-probe-their-nkandlas%2F&ei=jeoJUoDZBYXBhAe8iYHgCA&usg=AFQjCNFX4EUVLlrBzsORbL9ztUaYYXVqBg
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:17am On Aug 13, 2013
The Denel Dynamics A-Darter 5th generation infra-red guided short range air-to-air missile is a step closer to production following a successful series of undisclosed guided launches in January.

The joint R1 billion missile programme between South Africa and Brazil is in its fifth year of development, and only a hand-full of countries in the world are capable of developing missiles in this class.

"We successfully executed the air launched guided missile firings from the South African Air Force's SAAB Gripen fighter platform at the local Overberg Test Range," said Deon Olivier, Business Development Manager for Air-to-Air missiles. "These launches were completed against (amongst others) the Denel Dynamics high speed Skua aerial target drone which is designed for high subsonic missile testing and evaluation."

The programme has now entered its qualification phase, and is well on its way to completion by next year (2013), with the ultimate goal of being production-ready by the end of that year. The initial fighter aircraft for integration are the Hawk and Gripen for the South African Air Force (SAAF), and the Northrop F-5M for the Brazilian Air Force. It is likely that A-Darter will enter into operational service in both air forces in 2014, Denel Dynamics said in a statement released at the Defence and Security Asia 2012 show in Thailand.

The company says the relationship with the Brazilian Air Force and Brazilian industry on the development programme has strengthened the ties between the two countries and may lead to more cooperation opportunities. "There are also significant export opportunities for this product into further markets, particularly with A-Darter's aircraft integration flexibility across platforms," said Olivier.

The A-Darter was successfully launched in-flight from a Gripen fighter jet for the first time on 17 June 2010. This led to all subsequent firings taking place with clearance for the full carriage and firing envelopes of the Gripen. It ultimately resulted in a successful clearance programme - commended by SAAB as well as South African certification authorities.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:20am On Aug 13, 2013
The Denel Dynamics Umbani precision guided munition (PGM) bomb kit optimised for the NATO Mk 82 gravity bomb has been test dropped from a South African Air Force's BAE Systems Hawk Mk120, making it the first indigenous guided weapon trialled from the lead-in fighter aircraft.

Denel Dynamics CE Jan Wessels last year May said the development of the bomb kit was being funded by the SAAF as a technology project. According to the Armscor Bulletin System some R34 537 231.11 was spent on the kit between 2008 and last year.

He added the tests would also open opportunity for the weapon in the 17 other air forces that operate the light fighter, giving them a precision stand-off attack range of some 40km.

Jane's Defence Weekly earlier this month reported Denel Dynamics and the SAAF recently carried out two successful test launches.

The Umbani (meaning “lightning”) has been long in coming. Initial flight tests were successfully conducted on the Denel Cheetah some years ago. “In the last year we've moved to a Aerosud-owned (Dassault) Mirage F1 test platform because of the non-availability of the Cheetah and the high cost of integration on the new Saab Gripen as test platform,” he told defenceWeb last year May. “The next series of tests will probably be on the Hawk, for us it is significant as it is another step towards the Hawk becoming a workhorse of the SAAF. We see a lot of opportunity to take our Umbani onto that product. … There are many potential export customers but all are looking to the SAAF to adopt it first.”

Wessels says their customer’s major requirement is in the PGM arena for bomb kits for the Mk 82 227kg (500lb) bombs. But Umbani can also be made to fit the 113kg (250lb) Mk 81 and 454kg (1000lb) Mk 83 bombs. “In two years' time this could be a bread and butter product,” says Wessels. “Our bomb-kit design is an optimal trade-off between performance and affordability plus ease of use. We have matured the technology sufficiently to offer Umbani in its basic configuration to the market at stand-off range up to 40km and with great accuracy.”

Umbani has been advertised as an all-weather, day and night system and is fitted with a GPS/INS (Global Positioning System – Inertial Navigation System) capability. According to Denel, the system was designed with ease of use in mind and has low maintenance and life-cycle costs.

A marketing brochure some years ago advertised increased accuracy could be obtained using an imaging infra-red (IIR) sensor with an automatic target recognition capability or a semi-active laser seeker. The system could reportedly also be fitted with a radio frequency proximity fuse for area targeting, using a pre-fragmented warhead. Typical imagined mission sets include offensive counter-air such as demolishing hardened aircraft shelters – and parked aircraft or cratering runways. With the appropriate fuse the bomb can also be turned into a large anti-personnel or anti-material mine. On the battlefield, the weapon could be employed against air defence units or supply columns. Buildings, bridges, refineries, industrial areas and dams would also make useful targets. Accuracy is said to be within 3m circular error probable (CEP) when using laser or IIR. The addition of a rocket motor extends the stand-off range for the mother aircraft or allows low-level launch. Denel says various seekers, fuze and warheads may be fitted. The bomb can manoeuvre during the glide phase.

The Umbani replaces the Raptor 1 and 2 in the state arsenal's inventory. The Raptor was developed in the early 1980s under Project Hanto and integrated on the Dassault Mirage F1AZ and the Blackburn Buccaneer S.50. The Raptor 1, called the H-2 by the SAAF, was first used operationally against a bridge at Cuito Cuanavale during Operations Hooper on December 12, 1987. The H-2, dropped from a 24 Squadron Buccaneer, failed to destroy its target but a second attack on January 3, 1988 proved more successful. The Raptor 2 never entered SAAF service but did achieve export success.

The Raptor programme by the then-Kentron company was followed by the MUPSOW (MUlti-Purpose, Stand-Off Weapon) that was advertised as a multi-purpose, surgical-strike cruise missile, designed to neutralise enemy targets such as airfields, bunkers and command-and-control centres at “stand-off ranges”. Pinpoint accuracy was to be achieved by using an advanced navigation and terminal guidance technology (data link, choice of TV, IIR or MMW seekers). The airframe would be made out of composites, powered by a turbojet. Work reportedly commenced in 1991 with unpowered flight tests commencing in 1997. MUPSOW led to Torgos, another concept long-range, precision-guided strike missile. Neither have yet made the leap from concept to product.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:21am On Aug 13, 2013
Denel Dynamics, the missile and UAV division of South Africa's Denel, has completed the integration of the A-Darter fifth-generation air-to-air missile with the Saab JAS39 Gripen after a series of six launches.

SAAF fighter pilots involved with the project, or with insight into the development, are impressed by the A-Darter and regard it as better in some respects than the IRIS-T and the other missiles in this class. Where it was once speculated that the SAAF might use the A-Darter only on the Hawk, the intention now seems to be to also arm the Gripen with the missile, but retaining the IRIS-T in order to give a dual capability. Since the two missiles have different profiles and features, this will confuse the tactical situation as seen by an opposing pilot,

Specific aspects of the A-Darter mentioned to by SAAF pilots include the absence, under favourable atmospheric conditions, of the tell-tale (aluminium oxide particle based) smoke trail (no aluminium is used in the rocket propellant), giving opposing fighter pilots no visual warning other than a very discrete launch flash.

These features, along with a considerable range advantage over most short-range air-to-air missiles (A-Darter is considered a near-BVR missile) make A-Darter a major threat for opposing pilots.

Other aspects drawing favourable comment include, a 90-degree look angle; the availability of cocpit-selectable seeker scan patterns; quick target acquisition, which "rarely needs a second scan cycle", was told; after-launch scanning for lock-on-after-launch engagements, which is particularly valuable in "over the shoulder" engagements; and the 120-degrees per second track rate.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:24am On Aug 13, 2013
South Africa has inked a deal with US defence giant Raytheon Company for an undisclosed number of Paveway II laser-guided bomb (LGB) kits for its fleet of Saab Gripen advanced light fighter aircraft. Raytheon, who made the announcement at the Farnborough airshow, did not disclose a value for the deal, which is also not yet visible on the Armscor tender bulletin system.

Harry Schulte, vice president of Raytheon's Air Warfare Systems product line says the "combat-proven Paveway family of weapons is integrated on more than 22 aircraft and serves 41 nations around the globe, making this weapon the ideal choice for the South African warfighter. Raytheon is the sole provider of the Paveway family of weapons and is committed to providing the warfighter with a reliable direct-attack weapon at a cost-effective price."

It is understood the SAAF chose the Paveway over the similar Denel Dynamics Umbani LGB kit because the former is already integrated onto the Gripen, meaning the acquisition does not incur the SAAF any development and testing costs. The order is therefore in line with the SAAFs stated intention of ordering weapons that have already been cleared for use on the Gripen.

Armscor issued a request for quotation for Paveway last year. The Paveway LGB kit turns a standard Mk 82 500-pound (227kg) general-purpose bomb into a GBU-12 laser-guided air-to-ground "smart" bomb and the Mk 83 1000lb (454kg) bomb into a GBU-16. A high degree of accuracy is achieved when an operator (either airborne or ground-based) illuminates a target with a laser designator. The bomb is then guided to a spot of laser energy reflected from the target. The SAAF has already ordered the Rafael/Zeiss Litening III laser designation pod (LDP) for use on the Gripen C single-seat and D dual-seat fighters.

The weapon will provide the Gripen fleet with a full night-attack/all-weather precision guided munition (PGM) capability. According to Raytheon's fact sheet for the Paveway II, 99 deliveries of guided munitions will yield a circular error probable (CEP) of only 3.6 feet, versus a CEP of 310 feet for the same number of unguided bombs dropped under similar conditions.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:28am On Aug 13, 2013
@AGAUGUST READ THE ATTACHED REPORT FROM A VERY CREDIBLE MILITARY ANALYST REGARDIN THE BULLET PROOF FIASCO IN THE CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=Helmoed-R%C3%B6mer%20Heitman%20ON%20cENTRAL%20aFRICAN%20REPUBLIC%20WAR&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&ved=0CGgQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.african-defense.com%2F%3Fp%3D2862&ei=zuwJUqq8C4eShgfFq4CACg&usg=AFQjCNHHsLdbUFC7jw_AzeiuNOIlB9XADw
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:32am On Aug 13, 2013
Will Nigeria Overtake South Africa as Africa’s Powerhouse?

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=POSITIVE%20COMMENTS%20BY%20NIGERIA%20ON%20SOUTH%20AFRICA&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&ved=0CFEQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffuturecapetown.com%2F2013%2F02%2Fwill-nigeria-overtake-south-africa-as-africas-powerhouse%2F&ei=ve4JUrj-IJCWhQf60IGICA&usg=AFQjCNGWvnHqPvvep2Ac2jeWMO3YBi00Hw
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:34am On Aug 13, 2013
WHAT EXPECTS ARE SAYING ABOUT COMPARISON OF SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST NIGERIA

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=COMAPRISON%20OF%20NIGERIA%20VERSUS%20SOUTH%20AFRICA&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aneki.com%2Fcomparison.php%3Fcountry_1%3DNigeria%26country_2%3DSouth%2BAfrica&ei=_-4JUvntAs-2hAfSlIDwDg&usg=AFQjCNEBWV-GdNgz0TzVLrN4QHNcmoHVQA
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:35am On Aug 13, 2013
Young HIV-Positive Nigerians Seek Education, Rights

Young people living with HIV in Nigeria still fight stigmatization in their families and society. Nigeria ranks third among the countries with the highest HIV and AIDS burden in the world. HIV-positive young people here are campaigning for the legislature to pass a bill to protect their rights – including making it an offense to deny their admission to universities because of their HIV status.

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=POSITIVE%20COMMENTS%20BY%20NIGERIA%20ON%20SOUTH%20AFRICA&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CFwQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Finternationalreportingproject.org%2Fstories%2Fview%2Fyoung-hiv-positive-nigerians-seek-education-rights%2Fcomment%2Fread&ei=ve4JUrj-IJCWhQf60IGICA&usg=AFQjCNH_GkRITvoGJ5EmOpSiUcZa8Eo40w
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by paniki(m): 9:36am On Aug 13, 2013
agaugust:

no world class university will charge $10,000 for a univerity 4 year BSc degree.

a british or american university 4 year BSc degree costs $50,000 average. a foreign student needs another $50,000 for four years food, books, house, transport, air flight return tickets, and many other utility bills. it will cost about $100,000 to get a good foreign BSc degree in a good foreign university that meets international standards. fact.

fool your fellow south africans, you cannot fool me. i know the western world because i live there.

Lol, ok. I thought you meant $100 000 per year.

It's a pity that you don't live in your motherland.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:42am On Aug 13, 2013
agaugust:

there are black jews in israel too, including a nigerian israeli army soldier shlomo adesina who dies in battle with islamic terrorists about 10 years ago.

show me proof of your claim that ethiopian jews are blacks and no whites among them.

It shows you haven't read the attached link.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:42am On Aug 13, 2013
paniki:

Lol, ok. I thought you meant $100 000 per year.

It's a pity that you don't live in your motherland.

It's a bonus that i live in both my motherland and a foreign land, thats why i kick all your south african soldiers around like a football on this nairaland forum grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:56am On Aug 13, 2013
Thiza: @AGAUGUST READY THE ATTACHED LINK AND PLEASE FORWARD A LIST OF COUNTRIES THAT BUYS WEAPONS FROM NIGERIA AND NOTE THAT GERMANY, SAUDI ARABIA, EGYPT AND THE UNITED STATES ALSO BOUGHT FROM SOUTH AFRICA

nobody buys weapons from egypt, nigeria, algeria, ethiopia...and yet each of these countries will defeat south africa in war.

your south african army union is afraid to die like men in CAR and so they refused to go back to get a revenge and defeat Seleka to redeem your country's shatterd and batterd military image.

DENEL weapons manufacturing is a useless waste if your men are too afraid to use them to fight, k.ill the enemy and be k.illed by the enemy too.

.go back to CAR and capture that seleka small boy that is laughing at all the coward men of south africa grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:10am On Aug 13, 2013
Thiza: WHAT EXPECTS ARE SAYING ABOUT COMPARISON OF SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST NIGERIA

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=COMAPRISON%20OF%20NIGERIA%20VERSUS%20SOUTH%20AFRICA&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aneki.com%2Fcomparison.php%3Fcountry_1%3DNigeria%26country_2%3DSouth%2BAfrica&ei=_-4JUvntAs-2hAfSlIDwDg&usg=AFQjCNEBWV-GdNgz0TzVLrN4QHNcmoHVQA

your own source is what i post below, and i dont see any big difference between the tow countries in those few areas mentioned.

why not include crime rate, foreign dollar debt, HIV rate, and the fact that Mr.Oppenheimer is one of the white-men that robbed you south african blacks of your Gold and Diamonds while your black fathers suffered hunger and poverty in Soweto. Mr.Dangote is the richest black man in africa. fact.

Population
174,507,539
48,601,098

Life Expectancy
52.460 years
49.480 years

Capital City
Abuja
Pretoria (administrative capital)

Largest city
Lagos (population: 9,000,000)
Cape Town (population: 3,433,440)

Human Development Index
0.499
0.67

GDP per capita
$2,700 US
$11,300 US

Literacy Rate
68%
86.4%

Corruption Perception Index
2.7
4.9

Percentage of Women in Parliament
7.3%
33.9%

Wealthiest Citizens
Aliko Dangote ($2.5bn US)
Nicky Oppenheimer & family ($5.0bn US)

Unemployment Rate
23.900%
22.700%

Death Penalty
Legal
Abolished

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:23am On Aug 13, 2013
@agaugust AS I SUSPECTED BEFORE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER POSITIVELLY EXCEPT INSULTS....But gradually you are admitting that nothing and nothing can be show cased eminating from Nigeria.

Your role is now of belittling any posting and reducing any comments into racism, tribalism, crime, HIV and trully implementing PHD Philosophy (PUT HIM DOWN) syndrome. The continent is so backward due to such individuals whose main role and purpose is to drag anything and anyone who shows positive attitude and advancement.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:50am On Aug 13, 2013
NIGERIA-SOUTH AFRICA: Military relationship

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=standard%20of%20military%20training%20between%20south%20africa%20and%20nigeria&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&ved=0CFoQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irinnews.org%2Ffr%2Freport%2F13680%2Fnigeria-south-africa-military-relationship&ei=8AAKUrCYEoyYhQfsnIDoDg&usg=AFQjCNFm3pFnYTT062HRPV5vAoNu3R-a8A
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:56am On Aug 13, 2013
@AGAUGUST NIGERIAN MILITARY STILL BELOW INTERNATIONAL STANDARD – PRESIDENT JONATHAN .....NOT ME BUT YOUR PRESIDENT

President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday admitted that the Nigerian Armed Forces were still lagging behind when compared with most armed forces globally even as he warned against religious, tribal promotion in the military.

In his address as the reviewing officer of the passing-out parade and commissioning of the Direct Short Service Course 20 (Navy) by the Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA), Jonathan noted that the welfare, equipment and professionalism of the nation’s Armed Forces were nothing compared to best international practices.

Represented by Vice-President Namadi Sambo, the President said it was in this regard that his administration was working towards transforming the Armed Forces to meet the world’s best standard. He called on the passing out cadets to shun acts capable of jeopardising the peace and unity of the country.

A total of 85 cadets, among them females, passed out from the nine months direct short service military course with three of them receiving Navy Gold Medal, Navy Silver Medal and Commandant’s awards respectively.

Said Jonathan: “Let me at this juncture reiterate the high premium this administration places on the welfare of the members of the Armed Forces. As commander-in-chief, I have repeatedly assured members of the Armed Forces of my desire to transform them into a modern military institution that the nation can be proud of. The transformation will make it comparable to other Armed Forces in advanced world in terms of welfare, equipment, training and professionalism.

“As the NDA provides equal opportunity for our youths from all over the 36 states and the federal capital territory to train irrespective of their cultural and religious background. I also urge all of you to utilise the friendship you forged while in the Academy to discourage any act of tribalism, promotion of religious or political differences to cause disharmony in our collective unity and peace”.

The President reiterated that, “it is a source of pride that this citadel of military education has continued to live up to its responsibility in training and churning out excellent men and women for the Nigerian Armed Forces.” He said there was no doubt that both the physical and mental training received had prepared them to make meaningful impact on their chosen career.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by paniki(m): 11:15am On Aug 13, 2013
agaugust:

It's a bonus that i live in both my motherland and a foreign land, thats why i kick all your south african soldiers around like a football on this nairaland forum grin

What made you leave your motherland?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 11:18am On Aug 13, 2013
[b]@Blackchris

[b]everyone knows the APARTHEID SYSTEM WAS ALL ABOUT PROPAGANDA. The old apartheid era PROPAGANDIST are running the websites like the one u brought here to shift the blame. TWISTING FACTS. These propagandist claim to knw how many blacks were killed during apartheid. grin grin grin grin grin

ONE NIGERIAN HERE ON NAIRALAND ONCE SAID "IGBOS BELIEVE ANYTHING WRITEN BY A WHITEMEN EVEN IF ITS WRONG". He also mentioned that Igbos espcially believe in "HEARSAY" IGBO=GOSSIPER THE ENGLISH SLAVERS(Atlantic Slave Trade) DUBBED THESE AS BEING "USELESS" HENCE BIGHT OF BIAFRA SENT MORE WOMEN THAN MEN TO THE NEW WORLD. Yesterday you proved to be one of these "useless Igbo Well.s".


THE REAL AFRIKANERS
WELL KNOWN ANTI APARTEID AFRIKANERS

White Genocide Propaganda'

By Max du Preez

South Africa is a very dangerous place. SA is also a very safe place. It depends on who you are and where you are.

I will never be sceptical about the outrage and pain of a victim or the family and friends of a victim of crime. Murder, molestation, hijacking and robbery rip people’s lives apart and deeply traumatise communities.

But I do get annoyed when certain communities turn the crime epidemic into a political tool to vent their anger about other things in our society they dislike.

In conservative and right-wing white circles, for instance, the high number of attacks on farmers is labelled a white genocide. This campaign is even waged internationally, as we saw last week when Archbishop Desmond Tutu was shouted down and insulted at a public occasion in the Netherlands. The internet is overflowing with racist propaganda from SA and from South African expats that SA is a murderous, anarchic place where whites are targeted by violent criminals.

There is no white genocide. Whites are not specifically targeted by criminals. The only time they appear to be the preferred target of criminals is when criminals assume that they would have more material possessions than the average black person.

Farm murders are a particularly emotive issue and need to be talked about with great sensitivity. But it is imperative that we counter the propaganda around it.

There are two fallacies around farm murders. The first is that they are primarily politically motivated and fuelled by racial hatred and the desire to drive whites off the land. The second is that most farmers who get attacked were cruel to their workers and that these are mostly revenge attacks.

Two decades of research into farm attacks have failed to deliver any evidence that the attackers had a political motive.

Farmers are simply more vulnerable because they are isolated without any immediate neighbours and they are far from police stations.

Evidence also shows that the belief that most farmers have firearms contribute to making them targets – firearms are sought after because they supply criminals with the tools to commit more crime.

Black commercial farmers are attacked in equal measure, but because there are so few of them, we don’t see news of these attacks in our newspapers on a regular basis.

Research has shown that farm attackers would not hesitate to kill black farmworkers if they got in the way or if there was a possibility that they could identify the attackers afterwards.

Similarly, the large volume of research into farm attacks has shown that the overwhelming majority of these attacks are perpetrated by criminals not associated with the specific farms.

There are very few recorded cases where disgruntled workers have attacked their employers.

There is no doubt that there are still farmers who grossly underpay their workers and treat them with little respect. But these cases are a tiny minority.

Skilled and loyal farmworkers are a valuable commodity. If not out of common decency, most farmers treat their employees properly in order to prevent them from leaving and finding employment elsewhere.

A successful commercial farmer, just like any other sensible employer, knows that a good relationship with his workforce is essential to productivity.

Stories abound of violent farm attacks where nothing was stolen, suggesting murder and assault were the motives. The statistics don’t support this being a trend.

There is no clear explanation for the extreme violence often used during attacks on farms. Perhaps one explanation is that attackers have more time than with other attacks.

SA’s farmers are generally excellent agriculturalists and are critical to food security and stability and employment on the platteland. We need to care about their safety and give them special protection because of their vulnerability.

But we should oppose the efforts of some to turn attacks on farms into propaganda and a rallying point for rightwingers.

Even otherwise sensible parties and lobby groups like Freedom Front Plus and AfriForum should be called to account when they resort to hyperbole in their campaigns against farm attacks.

The reality is that whites are generally the most unlikely part of SA society to get murdered, Molested or assaulted. Young black men make up the biggest single category of victims of violence.

An analysis of the crime statistics in the Western Cape is a good example of national trends. According to a report by the provincial community safety department, the province had the third-highest murder rate in the country – 43.4 victims per 100 000 people – between April 2011 and March 2012.

Most murder victims lived in the city’s black townships. Eighty-seven percent of the victims were male. Seventy percent of those killed tested positive for alcohol.

Crime is a cancer eating away at our society. We need to understand exactly how it manifests itself if we want to treat it effectively.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 11:28am On Aug 13, 2013
[b]@Blackchris
YOU IGBO "STROND/POEPOL" ma se poes, Afrikaners like Max here and many whites speak out OPENLY ABOUT WHITES WHO LEAVE S.A. BECAUSE OF RACISM(most cant stand the fact that 50 000 blacks move to suburbs every month). They start complaining about NOISE, then other cr@p.

At Chrisblack IGBO kitten, there are 4,4million whites in SA. They have declined 5 million in the 90s to 4million due to AGING. THE WHITE POPULATION ALL OVER THE WORLD IS GETTING OLD. SA IS NO EXCEPTION. I can tell u now that 90% of these aren't NAZIST like ur favourite RIGHT WINGERS who call u Nigger or Kaffir. YES NOT ALL WHITES ARE RACIST, THOSE WHO LEAVE S.A. ARE RACISTS WHO WANT TO LIVE THE APARTHEID ERA SYSTEM "WHITES ONLY".

BY A WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN WHO LOVES S.A. AND ITS PEOPLE.

But I do get annoyed when certain communities turn the crime epidemic into a political tool to vent their anger about other things in our society they dislike.

In conservative and right-wing white circles, for instance, the high number of attacks on farmers is labelled a white genocide. This campaign is even waged internationally, as we saw last week when Archbishop Desmond Tutu was shouted down and insulted at a public occasion in the Netherlands. The internet is overflowing with racist propaganda from SA and from South African expats that SA is a murderous, anarchic place where whites are targeted by violent criminals.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 11:32am On Aug 13, 2013
@Chrisblack

IGBO POES/PUSSY NOTE EUGENE TERBLANCHE "NAZIST" WAS "LONELY RACIST" WHEN HE DIED HENCED HE BEFRIENEDED THOSE BLACK BOYS WHO LATER KILLED HIM. HE WAS AN ANGRY MAN WHO FELT THE AFRIKANERS SOLD HIM OUT. HE HAD NO FRIENDS.

MOST AFRIKANERS TOLD HIM HE WAS LIVING IN THE PAST HENCE TODAY IN "RIGHT WING RALLIES IN S.A." You can count the number of whites they won't reach 50 people
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