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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:13am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

nigerian army has not come out to say soldiers wives and children were kidnapped, some newspapers said it, but no proof.

why cant the newspapers interview anyone whose family was captured ?

the army said some civilians were captured, yes, but could be the usual village people boko haram terrorizes.

was the journalist there at 3am in the darknight when boko haram attacked ? if he was, he wont be alive to write the story cheesy

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Then it tells me that you are not updated. You do not move with times. Watch CNN, BCC and Aljazeera on daily bases. Your military did confirm it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ckkris: 9:17am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

nigerian army has not come out to say soldiers wives and children were kidnapped, some newspapers said it, but no proof.

why cant the newspapers interview anyone whose family was captured ?


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1.Nigerian soldiers don't take their wives to combat areas.
2. Nigerian Forces do not permit journalists into combat areas. Any journalist that strays into combat zones does so at own's risk.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:18am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

That very hit and run leaves a lot to be desired. A 90% defeated enermy wouldn't even dare to effect that hit and run which in most times leaves behind a collateral damage where soldiers are killed, buildings destroyed by fire and many more.

did you attend military academy of police college ?

an army's war success is first measured by the amount of territory it controls relative to that of the enemy.

in world war II France was recorded in history as defeated because its army was operating like boko haram from inside the bush while Germany's army was occupying the whole of France and Germany was declared the winner despite regular attacks by French army and militia (Called partisans or resistance) on the German army bases.

only a loser runs away in war and plays hide and seek, hit and run. if you have the power, you show your face big time !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ckkris: 9:20am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:


Then it tells me that you are not updated. You do not move with times. Watch CNN, BCC and Aljazeera on daily bases. Your military did confirm it.
Post the pictures, or it didn't happen
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:23am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:


Then it tells me that you are not updated. You do not move with times. Watch CNN, BCC and Aljazeera on daily bases. Your military did confirm it.

I live in America and i have better CNN or BBC information that you have in far away south africa.

by the way, was the CNN or BBC correspondent present on the battlefield when boko haram attacked at 3 AM dead dark night ?

last time i checked, America and EU have withdrawn all their official personnel from nothenr nigeria long time ago, so did they use witchcraft spiritual powers to see a battle 7,000 km away ? south africans dont think, its so easy to fool you guys around cheesy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:30am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

You do not move with times. Watch CNN, BCC and Aljazeera on daily bases. Your military did confirm it.

only a liar on this forum will say..."my source is a live television news report, not a published newspaper that you can confirm online"

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:33am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:


Then it tells me that you are not updated. You do not move with times. Watch CNN, BCC and Aljazeera on daily bases. Your military did confirm it.

you are not intelligent enough to observe that CNN and BBC news is more detailed online than on TV, the online has full stories of every news they read on TV and can be accessed even months after it was read from the online archives. if you cannot find a story in online archives, they did not broadcast it on TV. that is the principle of new media for CNN and BBC.

do you live in a village in south africa ?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:34am On Dec 28, 2013
ckkris: Boko Haram is no longer in Abuja, Kaduna, Kano, Bauchi, Gombe, Adamawa. Nigerian Forces are effectively routing them, in spite of enormous financial resources available to them, to use them to keep Nigeria so permanently impoverished as to depend on other nations, and be instructed about on what to do, and what not to do. Nigeria will ERADICATE BOKO HARAM.

Does it matter where are they? The fact is they are killing people under the nose of those you refer as the second most powerful army in Africa. Is this not a hypocrisy?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:36am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

I live in America and i have better CNN or BBC information that you have in far away south africa.

by the way, was the CNN or BBC correspondent present on the battlefield when boko haram attacked at 3 AM dead dark night ?

last time i checked, America and EU have withdrawn all their official personnel from nothenr nigeria long time ago, so did they use witchcraft spiritual powers to see a battle 7,000 km away ? south africans dont think, its so easy to fool you guys around cheesy

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If you live in America, I live on the moon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:38am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Does it matter where are they? The fact is they are killing people under the nose of those you refer as the second most powerful army in Africa. Is this not a hypocrisy?

Islamic terrorists are killing people under the noses of the most powerful countries of the world like Russia, India, and Pakistan.

they did same under mighty America's nose in Iraq and for 27 years IRA did same on British home soil under the nose of the mighty British Military.

you talk more like an anti-burglary policeman than a soldier who went to military academy cheesy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:40am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

did you attend military academy of police college ?

an army's war success is first measured by the amount of territory it controls relative to that of the enemy.

in world war II France was recorded in history as defeated because its army was operating like boko haram from inside the bush while Germany's army was occupying the whole of France and Germany was declared the winner despite regular attacks by French army and militia (Called partisans or resistance) on the German army bases.

only a loser runs away in war and plays hide and seek, hit and run. if you have the power, you show your face big time !

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What matters the most is the harm that they effect upon your men. Tell your military to contain them such that when the BH see them they should just run away and be seen no more. Thats what we can deduce as 90% defeat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:42am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

What matters the most is the harm that they effect upon your men. Tell your military to contain them such that when the BH see them they should just run away and be seen no more. Thats what we can deduce as 90% defeat.

sorry but you are not intelligent enough to be taken taken as a man with common sense. if the world is run the way you think, all of us will end up in a pit hole.

better we let you keep fooling yourself by yourself and for yourself, get it ? cheesy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:43am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Tell your military to contain them such that when the BH see them they should just run away and be seen no more. Thats what we can deduce as 90% defeat.


Tell south african army to return to CAR and dare to look at Seleka rebels eyeball to eyeball, before you come again to nairaland and talk cheesy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:48am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

If you live in America, I live on the moon.

no wonder you talk like a moo moo

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ckkris: 9:51am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

you are not intelligent enough to observe that CNN and BBC news is more detailed online than on TV, the online has full stories of every news they read on TV and can be accessed even months after it was read from the online archives. if you cannot find a story in online archives, they did not broadcast it on TV. that is the principle of new media for CNN and BBC.

do you live in a village in south africa ?
Some of these Afrikaans seem to desire to intimidate all black Africans as they've in RSA. Their luck is that they don't have boundary with Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ckkris: 9:54am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

What matters the most is the harm that they effect upon your men. Tell your military to contain them such that when the BH see them they should just run away and be seen no more. Thats what we can deduce as 90% defeat.
Boko Haram will be ERADICATED, even if it takes long.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:56am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Does it matter where are they? The fact is they are killing people under the nose of those you refer as the second most powerful army in Africa. Is this not a hypocrisy?

You must be high on horse sh1t. Fighting asymmetric and. Guerrilla warfare is even more difficult than fighting a conventional war. C'Mon man. Ain't you a soldier?

The second most powerful military in Africa has defeated terrorism out of it's boarders without foreign assistance and you don't think that is commendable.

Just imagine if Cameroon grows some balls or permits us to attack boko haram camps on their soil.

Guy, grow some brain abeg
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ckkris: 9:57am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

Islamic terrorists are killing people under the noses of the most powerful countries of the world like Russia, India, and Pakistan.

they did same under mighty America's nose in Iraq and for 27 years IRA did same on British home soil under the nose of the mighty British Military.

you talk more like an anti-burglary policeman than a soldier who went to military academy cheesy

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Some of these experts that come to Africa to make a FORTUNE!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:59am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Boko Haram still manage to attack military formations and kidnap soldiers, wives and their kids.

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your low level of military training in south africa does not teach you how islamic terrorists operate ? see what happened in kenyan shopping mall just few months ago.

if boko haram captured wives and children of nigerian soldiers, they would parade them in a video and show it on Aljazeera TV.

next is that they will demand for ransome payment or release of boko haram leaders in army/police detention.

islamic terrorists dont get valuable hostages and still keep quiet getting beaten blue black without using the hostages as a bargaining tool.

boko boys kidnapped ordinary villagers. if they have soldiers wives/kids, let them display them on video and post it to Aljazeera as usual.

hey mister, with the way you think, you will the worst performing military intelligence and investigation officer that the world has ever produced.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:06am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

What matters the most is the harm that they effect upon your men. Tell your military to contain them such that when the BH see them they should just run away and be seen no more. Thats what we can deduce as 90% defeat.

Did you just assume that Islamic jihadists are afraid to die for their course? You are an imposter. Don't ever claim to be in the military please. You are a fake.

No matter how they are being killed, they will keep attacking cos it is their belief to die not live. Olodo
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:08am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:


Tell south african army to return to CAR and dare to look at Seleka rebels eyeball to eyeball, before you come again to nairaland and talk cheesy

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They are currently in DRC under the pay and protection of UN and Tanzania. That's how they roll grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:13am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:
hey mister, with the way you think, you will the worst performing military intelligence and investigation officer that the world has ever produced.

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Sadly, that is the kind of soldiers you'll find in SA military. Even me go kill this guy for battlefield with that kind mentality.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:16am On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

no wonder you talk like a moo moo

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There is nothing that hurts more than the truth in the world.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:24am On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

If you live in America, I live on the moon.

you are one of those black Africans who see America as the heaven no one else can go to and live in. You can even use the shi.t of an American as body cream! gringringrin Dont worry, i know your type. It is called colonial/slave mentality. But in your own case, the slave mentality is worse thanks to Apartheid that denied you quality life and told you skyscrappers arent meant for you to live in.

FYI, Nigeria has the second largest diaspora in the world behind India. And no, nothing is wrong with our country. It is just the culture of Nigerians especially Igbo to travel out and explore.

You guys dont have the money to leave your Soweto republic if not, you would have deserted your Moosanzi

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:13am On Dec 28, 2013
souldust:

you are one of those black Africans who see America as the heaven no one else can go to and live in. You can even use the shi.t of an American as body cream! gringringrin Dont worry, i know your type. It is called colonial/slave mentality. But in your own case, the slave mentality is worse thanks to Apartheid that denied you quality life and told you skyscrappers arent meant for you to live in.

FYI, Nigeria has the second largest diaspora in the world behind India. And no, nothing is wrong with our country. It is just the culture of Nigerians especially Igbo to travel out and explore.

You guys dont have the money to leave your Soweto republic if not, you would have deserted your Moosanzi

What about Americans who are still holding on to their country and never travel around. What about the Germans, Japanese, Italians, etc. Does it mean they do not have money to tour around? South Africa love their country dearly that they wouldnt go around adopting citizenship of other countries.

For your info, i have also been to America on many occassions.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:20am On Dec 28, 2013
chris365:

They are currently in DRC under the pay and protection of UN and Tanzania. That's how they roll grin

How dare do you put UN and Tanzania on the same footing. SA does not hide anyone.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Donian007: 11:51am On Dec 28, 2013
CAMNEWTON4PRES your comments interest me, bring it on and be educated boy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:06pm On Dec 28, 2013
agaugust:

your low level of military training in south africa does not teach you how islamic terrorists operate ? see what happened in kenyan shopping mall just few months ago.

if boko haram captured wives and children of nigerian soldiers, they would parade them in a video and show it on Aljazeera TV.

next is that they will demand for ransome payment or release of boko haram leaders in army/police detention.

islamic terrorists dont get valuable hostages and still keep quiet getting beaten blue black without using the hostages as a bargaining tool.

boko boys kidnapped ordinary villagers. if they have soldiers wives/kids, let them display them on video and post it to Aljazeera as usual.

hey mister, with the way you think, you will the worst performing military intelligence and investigation officer that the world has ever produced.

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Surely, Nigerian military trains its troops about how terrorists operate, yet they cannot utilise their acquired skills.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 1:03pm On Dec 28, 2013
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Naija police budget indeed, the same policemen who sleep in toilets? We saw how your school police looks like ? We saw how your soldiers were fighting over fish's head , bottom line your army and police are ill equipped and ill trained, they are useless to say the least and can't win even a wresting match against us talk less about a war, we will simply destroy everything .

Someone mentioned Chad, like I said we train them, and Chad can't dare Cameroon, not only we feed them but we are more advanced than them in all ramifications, furthermore it is not in our country that they are backing rebels groups, what is the great Naija doing about Chad? Na throwing punches in the air won't save your country ?

For the one who mentioned airbase with frenc jet fighters stop being a slowpoke they have to stop in Cameroon for refuelling etc , we make money from that and we refused to go in CAR and die to protect French interests like you slaves have been doing in CIV, in Liberia etc naija is the African country used to maintain African under slavery , you think Cameroonian are mad? Lol we want to completely get rid of them but we know we can count on you therefore we have to b careful , our former president signed contracts with them what we do is to not renew them when they expire, as we can see there are no French bases in Cameroon unlike in West Africa that the pseudo giant of Africa is supposed to protect .
Please kill that dream in your mind right now bombing our territory will mark the end of Nigeria . And do not think we are not aware of your shenanigans, trying to get us involved in bokoharam for where? We have made it clear we don't get involved in people internal problem this is in our constitution so you can ask your soldiers to stop throwing stones (and don't discuss that we busted u)

@ sambo , Bokoharam haram said they want to form a country out of northern Nigeria why should it bother Cameroon? Are we the one that should maintain the integrity of your territory? Why should we b against them? Do we call Nigeria to deal with secessionist groups in Cameroon? No

careful when you throw stones;

Your countries GDP and GDP / capita is less than ours:
http://www.google.com.ng/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&hl=en&dl=en&idim=country:CMR:GHA:SEN#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CMR:NGA:KEN:SDN:ETH:AGO:GHA&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

http://www.google.com.ng/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&hl=en&dl=en&idim=country:CMR:GHA:SEN#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CMR:NGA:KEN:ETH:GHA&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

Infact your GDP is less than Lagos. Your GDP growth rate is less than Nigeria's.

Your foreign reserves is less than a 10th of ours.
http://www.indexmundi.com/cameroon/reserves_of_foreign_exchange_and_gold.html

And your Armed Forces?

ARMY

"The General Headquarter Brigade, located in Yaoundé. This brigade is responsible for protecting the capital and supporting the institutions. The President of the Republic has to allow any of its deployments."
"Three command and support battalions;"
"The Rapid Intervention Brigade, (which currently has no general staff) and is made up of three rapid intervention battalions, stationed in Doula, Tiko and Koutaba. These three battalions are respectively the Bataillon Special Amphibie (BSA), the Bataillon des Troupes Aeroportees (BTAP) and the Bataillon Blinde de Reconnaissance (BBR). The BSA is inspired by the French Special Forces. This brigade is a tactical battle unit under the authority of the Chief of Staff of the armed forces. For this to be engaged, the President’s agreement is necessary. Amongst its three battalions, only the BTAP is operational;"
"Five motorised infantry brigades, supposed to be stationed in one military sector but which can then be engaged without any regard to the territorial division of the country. These brigades currently[b] do not have a general staff[/b]. In theory, they consist of 11 motorised infantry battalions; 5 support battalions and 3 backing battalions; however, the motorised battalions are in reality not operational due to a lack of staff, equipment and vehicles."
"Three rapid intervention battalions, the so-called BIR
Navy:

Latest estimates indicate naval strength consists of two combat patrol vessels, three coastal patrol vessels and approximately 30 smaller inshore and river patrol craft allocated to both the navy and the local gendarmerie. These include two 135 tonne Yunnan-class landing craft, which are able to carry and launch smaller craft for troop insertions. Some effort has been made to assess equipment needs to bring L'Audacieux P103 and Bakassi P104 to an effective combat status. This has resulted in weapons capabilities being reduced in favour of an increase in serviceability and the service is now effectively without missile attack capabilities. Bakassi (a Type P 48S missile patrol craft) completed a major refit at Lorient, France in August 1999. This included removing the Exocet missile system and EW equipment, and fitting a funnel aft of the mainmast to replace the waterline exhausts. New radars were also installed. Bakassi is now armed only with 40 mm cannon. Although the Bizerte (P48 large patrol craft) class L'Audacieux is fitted for SS-12M missiles these are not embarked and its operational status is in some doubt, having not been reported at sea since 1995. The Quartier-Maître Alfred Moto patrol boat was listed as out of service in 1991 but has since been reactivated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroonian_Armed_Forces

Air force:

The Cameroon Air Force (Armée de l'Air du Cameroun) theoretically possesses a fairly well balanced force of relatively unsophisticated aircraft, although many of these are now ageing and serviceability levels are likely to be low. Emphasis is placed on transport and utility operations in support of ground forces. Combat capability is modest and restricted to a few armed trainers that can be used for ground attack, COIN and close air support roles. Six Atlas Impala jet trainers purchased from South Africa in 1997 had a lengthy gestation period before becoming operational and did not enter service until late 1998. None of the Impalas are currently in service. Apart from a few ultralight aircraft, these are the most recent additions to the inventory. Cameroon's air arm lacks training aircraft and has also experienced a significant decline in transport assets, most recently involving the 2001 grounding of the remaining three DHC-5D Buffalo aircraft.

The air force includes three main aerial bases, in Yaoundé, Douala, and Garoua. The air force staff is divided between these three bases, located within each military region. The Yaoundé base is a helicopter and liaison platform; the Douala base is a logistical and tactical transport platform; the Garoua base is an attack and training platform. The first two bases are timeworn. There are no stopping systems, no radio-navigation installations, and no lighting apparatus. No major investment has been made for a long time. The Garoua base is the more modern and the best equipped and "conforms" to NATO standards having been built by the Germans, following an invitation to tender. The PANVR[1] (Pole Aeronautique National a Vocation Regionale) is located on this base. Large aeroplanes can land easily on this base. However, the site is not well maintained.

The Koutaba aerodrome is home to the Bataillon des Troupes Aeroportees (BTAP).
Finally, the Bamenda aerodrome could become a fourth aerial base, with the stationing of the airborne rifle commandos (fusiliers commando de l’air – BAFUSCO AIR): currently 60 people under the command of a lieutenant colonel assisted by eight officers work at the site. Such a deployment is large by Cameroonian standards.
Currently, the air force has 6 Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets (2 are currently inoperable) as attack aircraft; 3 Lockheed C-130 Hercules and 1 Aérospatiale SA 330 Puma transport aircraft, 1 Piper PA-23, 1 Aérospatiale Alouette II, 2 Joker 300, 7 Humbert Tétras for training and 2 Bell 206 as observation and liaison aircraft. The independently operated Presidential aerial squadron has 1 Grumman Gulfstream III, 1 Aérospatiale Dauphin and 1 Aérospatiale Super Puma, which are not part of air force equipment. Maintenance of aircraft of this squadron is better than for those of the air force..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroon_Air_Force

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by sirjerry(m): 1:43pm On Dec 28, 2013
^And the cameroun military will have it in mind that they can repel any attack from the nigerian in their current situation.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 2:29pm On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Surely, Nigerian military trains its troops about how terrorists operate, yet they cannot utilise their acquired skills.

Let me ask you something. And please be honest with your response.

When SA military was at it's best during the apartheid. The ANC was their headache right?

They fought the ANC to the extent of invading their neighbors to neutralize ANC camps and leadership which even prompted an all out war.

Did that stop the ANC from attacking the military? NO

You can't defeat ideology with guns. You can only control it'a effect.

Or else why is the Taliban still fully operational with the presence of the best militaries in the world with state of the art counter terrorist weaponry?
Let's even come home to Algeria. (1st country in Africa to chase terrorism out of their boarders without help). Has AQIM stopped attacking till date? NO

Talk like an experienced soldier please. Not the dunce you sound like right now.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 2:31pm On Dec 28, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

How dare do you put UN and Tanzania on the same footing. SA does not hide anyone.

This your gibberish says it all. You can't even construct a simple two line response and want me to believe you.

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