Olu317:
This is because the Palestine are philistines offshoot with Ishmaelite fusion. The Hebrew were already slaves and captives in different gentile nation as at when ottoman people took over Jerusalem. First of all, the Hebrew were first made captives after their first freedom from Egypt during the lifetime of of Moses then by the Assyrians, the Persians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Then Romans , in which the Hebrew language was already outside the shore of ancient Israel, which was replaced with Aramaic ,which Jesus Christ witnessed, during the days of Roman reigns in Jerusalem. The ottoman Turk presence started from the capturing of Eastern Jerusalem, which these Palestinians had relocated during Jesus existence and the Roman lost the location of the Palestine ,which is Eastern Jerusalem .The sultanate had grip and had taken over Egypt before this time. And around 1260, the mamluks ruled Palestine from Egypt and The Sultan Selim 1, challenge them . And around 1517, his son's Army took over the whole of Israel land that the part the mamluks were were formerly in charge after a war campaign. So, Israel had been in bondage for thousands of years. And Judaism was not accepted by these foreigners known as palenstines and other Arab immigrants because Judaism had left Israel as at this period. Even till today, there are Jewish settlers in Palestine enclave that are bilingual in both Arabic and modern day Jewish language. And some Among them still practise Samaritan goodwill.

1.Palestinians are not same as Philistines

2.Israel was a Roman colony ,it is different from been taken into captivity...they didn't ship every single one of them to Rome

My friend, he is telling u the truth if u are a christain as you profess then stay away from this argument cos it involves a covenant God had with the Jews so that evil does not befall you. Jerusalem is a covenant city,even though the jews have deviated from the teachings of God, they are still God chosen people.

danvon:
well brainwashed people think they are not brainwashed you can't find even one verse in the Revelation that says Christians will fight for Jews nope you can't, compare America today and when it did not support Israel, Does it look blessed or cursed?

LordGuru1:

During deceitful islamic Obama era when America did not sopport Israel, America looked so so cursed. Satanist and Illuminati was fully encouraged and they even gained the audacity to threaten straight and good people. Suicide bombers were watonly shedding innocent blood weekly, men were being brainwashed start fvcking men, incest and bestiality was legalized, etc... And GOD thundered with judgement too, it has been confirmed that the worst natural disaster in recent times that seriously affected America and touched parts of All other Continets of the World was anger of GOD. Tsunami(mixture of water, wind and fire) was like no other, even my boss was trembling in the office by the 2rd day of it praying that it should not get to Nigeria. It affected parts of Africa. Obama was literarilly forcing the World to become comepletely evil, he must have been the Man of Sin spoken of in Revelations. I now believe that MESSIAH JESUS could appear any time soon. Pls, live Holy and be prepared for the Rapture.

Obama did not support Israel? Suicide bombers in America during Obamas time? Tsunami in America during Obamas time? Jesus Christ do you read what you write

Jerusalem belongs to the Jews, I don't see Palestinian winning an already lost war. I suggest they give up,they can't defeat Israel.

danvon:
where did i mention I'm a Muslim? so anyone who criticize Jews is a Muslim, the people who practice Judaism today are Jews, if you practice Judaism you're a jew, he's referring to those who go to synagogues

It had been that way since ancient time, that those that practice judaism are called Jew. My point is this; the scripture you quoted 'Rev.3:9' is not an indication that the people there now are not the original Jewish-Israeli. I have seen muslim quote that scripture to claim that the curren Jews are fake, that is, they were not the ones God gave the land to. An argumet that is false.

All i know is, I am a Nigerian with Islam name ( Abiodun Usman Lamidi ) by birth but the Grace of God found me and return me back to the Holy Sheepfold of his called to be True Christian today : By God's grace. My business outlet is in the Capital of Israel called Jerusalem, Brooklyn, New York, USA and Ibadan, Nigeria.

Anyone from anywhere angry can come and beat me from my claims and Revelation of God i am standing by.

AgentOfAllah:


I believe Analize701 is talking of Yathrib (modern day city of Medina), however, this person's understanding of the story is rather very unsophisticated. First of all, Medina is an oasis, but of course, naturally formed. It was not converted by the jews as (s)he claims. Also, I'm not sure about the day Muhammed attacked, but the outcome of that attack was devastating. In some ways also, inevitable. During their stay in Yathrib, the tensions between the Muslim and the leaders of some local Jewish tribes simmered and eroded the trust that allowed the Muslims into Medina in the first instance. I guess the Muslims felt betrayed also, because, in spite of them acknowledging the Jews as among god's chosen, and even praising all their prophets and what not, the Jewish leadership in these tribes, though accepting Muhammed's political leadership, refused to acknowledge the supremacy of his religion. Some did convert to Islam, but many didn't make it a secret that they considered Muhammed's message a fraudulent rip off! On several occasions, they would rebuff his attempts to convert them by asking him difficult questions. So, in spite of his wide acceptance in Medina, he wasn't universally liked by all the leading tribes there.
For some reason, Muhammed chronicled his frustrations with this set of Jews in several parts of the Qur'an, apparently, as god's response to them. This is just one of his responses below:



So what happened?
Before the Muslims arrived Yathrib, it was a relatively stable free market economy with no real leadership, just a bunch of tribes, each having their own tribal representative in a sort of community congress. These tribes were a mix of Arabized Jewish tribes like banu Aws, core Jewish ones like banu Qurayzah and Banu Nadir; as well as other core Arab tribes and perhaps others that were unrecorded. Around the year 622AD, Muhammed was invited to Medina to come and settle a dispute between two of the leading tribes then, Banu Aws and Banu Khazraj, as he was seen as trust worthy. Among the conditions for his participation was that as an independent arbiter, he was to become the de facto leader of Medina, and his decisions would be final. Made sense, as many found his judgements fair; and even became Muslims as a result. He also instituted a representative theocratic government in which Jews were expressly allowed to govern themselves in accordance with their own legal codes, but they were still subject to state taxes instituted for the welfare of the state.

Unfortunately, during one of the battles with the pagans of Mecca, the battle of the trenches (so named because the Muslims were grossly outnumbered and decided to protect themselves by digging trenches around their city),one of the Jewish tribes, Banu Qurayzah, conspired with the Meccans to attack the Muslims from behind, perhaps because they weren't happy with their new subordinate status or maybe their mistrust for the divine claims of Muhammed had reached its climax. Either way, they grossly miscalculated. The Meccans had planned to weaken the Muslims by siege; and then Qurayzah would finish them off, but the siege didn't last long, as the arid climate with its treacherous sand storms frustrated the Meccans. Meanwhile, the Muslims got wind of the intentions of Banu Qurayzah, and marched on them as soon as the battle was over. The leadership of banu Qurayzah had betrayed one of the key provisions in the Medina constitution, and Muhammed, knowing the punishment for this kind of betrayal according to Jewish traditions would be severe; and at the same time, navigating around a tense political situation (at this point, the Jews of Yathrib were still vastly more influential in the city than the Muslims), he appointed the leader of banu Aws who had converted to Islam, to pronounce judgement on banu Qurayzah according to the Torah. The judgement was severe: Kill all male members of the tribe that have attained the age of puberty; and enslave women and children. This was a politically deft move! He at once, eliminated his political opponents, while not incurring the wrath of the powerful Arabised Jewish tribes in Medina. But it was just as stupendously atrocious. Nevertheless, it solidified the Muslims' stronghold on Yathrib and allowed then to subsequently institute more severe strains of their theology.

agentofallah pls we dont need ur preaching here take it to ur Muslim brothers,cos all this thing u ar saying ar just trash and ur own make up story.....one more thing don't quote ur Quran to us cos even that contradict all ur lies

danvon:
. synagogue not church

They were Synagogue then of course...read the Bible Apostle was always coming to Synagogue in Jerusalem to worship

jeruzi:
It had been that way since ancient time, that those that practice judaism are called Jew. My point is this; the scripture you quoted 'Rev.3:9' is not an indication that the people there now are not the original Jewish-Israeli. I have seen muslim quote that scripture to claim that the curren Jews are fake, that is, they were not the ones God gave the land to. An argumet that is false.

well deceive yourself all you want, Synagogue is associated with one religion and one race Rev 2:9 is similar too, the Jews are false, Israel is false, the Antichrist will be the false messiah, with the way lots of Christians support Israel I have no trouble believing the Revelation

Chukazu:


They were Synagogue then of course...read the Bible Apostle was always coming to Synagogue in Jerusalem to worship

don't deceive yourself Rev 2:1, 2:8,2:12 uses the word church not synagogue

You all should relax...when Jesus comes back,that will be his seat of power and no power on earth can remove him.

He will rule the world for 1000years.
Glory honor power and majesty be unto Jesus forever more...AMEN

danvon:
where did you see that curse in the Bible?

Genesis 16 v 12


And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren..

danvon:
well deceive yourself all you want, Synagogue is associated with one religion and one race Rev 2:9 is similar too, the Jews are false, Israel is false, the Antichrist will be the false messiah, with the way lots of Christians support Israel have no trouble believing the Revelation

You only belief a particular portion of the Bible,but you don't believe the entire Bible..."cherry picker"

scholars full here o! nobe small thing

The Bible says until Israel look up and say Baruch Haba B'shem adonai. which means blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, then will they see peace.

Ishmael and Isaac were blessed in the scriptures.
If the Arabs can open their inner heart and think deep. it is only God that can make a desert have crude oil.

This same temple mount is prophesied to be demolished.

I stand on the word on YHWH. The God of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob (Isra'el)

Chukazu:


You only belief a particular portion of the Bible,but you don't believe the entire Bible..."cherry picker"

well the Bible says lots of people will be deceived by the false prophets I'm seeing the manifestation millions of Christians supporting Israel , Israel that rejects Jesus Christ

But accordingly to bible, he is a bastard. His mother was mocking Sarah, then sarah told Abraham to send her away. Abraham was reluctant at first but God told him to do what his wife said and he sent out his maid and the child. But before then, God cursed Ismaheel. He will be a violent, stubborn and will always oppose isaac.

So it settled, islamic to me is a violent religion. God said so. So many countries that was mention in the bible is now an islamic country. They killed so many people to bring in the religion.

In Nigeria, uthman don fodio played important role of islamic in west africa. He killed so many people and imposed the religion on them. Google it now, and you call that religion a peaceful religion.
Islamic is violent, Violent is Islamic

Quran Declares Holy Land Given To The Israelites Interview Sheikh Imran Hosein


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TxvCbjppnc


Israel was promised to the Jews in the Quran - Koran. Musa is Moses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZglHmpcgSvI

danvon:
I know how stubborn you are and won't want to hear the truth, two wrongs don't make a right both Jews and Arabs reject Jesus, you call Ishmael a bastard remember that God promised to make him a great nation, Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN, which say they are JEWS, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." There's only one religion that uses synagogues and it's those who call themselves Jews, you can be Jewish if you accept Judaism, stop talking about Jews like they are saints the world isn't divided into Jews and Arabs.

What are you saying??
You are lost in translation,what you have translated is a chapter spelling out punishment and a promise of wrath AND NOT A BLESSING,yes God promised to make the descendants of Ismael great ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO FROM THE LOINS OF ABRAHAM,so please quote the appropriate text next time

danvon:
Are you God? Who are you to decide who gets Bethlehem?

Bethlehem is now with Palestine. Jordan retained control of the city until the Six-Day War in 1967, when Bethlehem was captured by Israel, along with the Sinai and rest of the West Bank. In 1995, Israel turned it over to the Palestinian National Authority in accordance with the Oslo peace accord and the Sinai was returned to Egypt.

Most of the sites we read in the Bible are under the control of the Moslems today; the Palestine Arabs already have Bethlehem, Damascus is in Syria, Mount Nebo in Jordan, Seven Churches of the Revelation (Ephesus, Pergamon, Smyrna, Laodiciea, Sardis, Philadelphia, Thyatira) and Assyrian Orthodox Church of Virgin Mary in Turkey and so many in Iran, Iraq, Egypt etc. More than half of Armenia, the first Christian nation is now part of Turkey. All these sites were taken over during the Islam conquest.

Jerusalem which they now say it's their third holiest site but it's the only holy site of the Jews. They won't give it up.

I greet u sir, u are a true scholar. This is not a matter of been a christain or a Muslim. It is the promise of God to the jews. The way their country was given to them easily, dat is the way Jerusalem will be handed to Israel as its capital. Do you think Trump won the election by accident? Go and think again.

Olu317:
This is because the Palestine are philistines offshoot with Ishmaelite fusion. The Hebrew were already slaves and captives in different gentile nation as at when ottoman people took over Jerusalem. First of all, the Hebrew were first made captives after their first freedom from Egypt during the lifetime of of Moses then by the Assyrians, the Persians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Then Romans , in which the Hebrew language was already outside the shore of ancient Israel, which was replaced with Aramaic ,which Jesus Christ witnessed, during the days of Roman reigns in Jerusalem. The ottoman Turk presence started from the capturing of Eastern Jerusalem, which these Palestinians had relocated during Jesus existence and the Roman lost the location of the Palestine ,which is Eastern Jerusalem .The sultanate had grip and had taken over Egypt before this time. And around 1260, the mamluks ruled Palestine from Egypt and The Sultan Selim 1, challenge them . And around 1517, his son's Army took over the whole of Israel land that the part the mamluks were were formerly in charge after a war campaign. So, Israel had been in bondage for thousands of years. And Judaism was not accepted by these foreigners known as palenstines and other Arab immigrants because Judaism had left Israel as at this period. Even till today, there are Jewish settlers in Palestine enclave that are bilingual in both Arabic and modern day Jewish language. And some Among them still practise Samaritan goodwill.

danvon:
Obama did not support Israel? Suicide bombers in America during Obamas time? Tsunami in America during Obamas time? Jesus Christ do you read what you write

No matter how hard u try to deceive urself, the Truth is out already. The Book of Daniel and Revelations says the AntiChrist would be Homosexual. Obama is a Moslem and he married a man called Micheal (changed to Michel) Never has such evil been enthroned in the history of the World. Surely, evil prevailed during his satanic reign in USA and he tried so hard to entangle and envelope the whole World in Evil. JESUS CHRIST is very much about to return, be Holy and Ready! Watch the real parents of the Obama adopted kids below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIg6OMD-XQI

LordGuru1:

No matter how hard u try to deceive urself, the Truth is out already. The Book of Daniel and Revelations says the AntiChrist would be Homosexual. Obama is a Moslem and he married a man called Micheal (changed to Michel) Never has such evil been enthroned in the history of the World. Surely, evil prevailed during his satanic reign in USA and he tried so hard to entangle and envelope the whole World in Evil. JESUS CHRIST is very much about to return, be Holy and Ready! Watch the real parents of the Obama adopted kids below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIg6OMD-XQI

Israel supports homosexuality

This tread na blast

IN fulfillment of Bible prophecy,the mosque will be destroyed and the Temple rebuilt on that same spot and NO ONE can stop this from happening.ONLY A MATTER OF TIME

The mosque will be destroyed and the Temple rebuilt on that same spot,there is NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO TO STOP THIS,ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME

buffalowings:


Isn't it wonderful that the premise of the quran is mostly based on the torah
Isn't it wonderful that Islam came to beign 600yrs after Christianity

If I'm to be a religious person wouldn't it be better to go with the original rather that following the dumbed down version

Personally, I believe everyone should be free to pick whatever fairy tale sails their boat. I happen not to subscribe to any myself, because I feel dumbed down by them, all together. I just hope that, by your logic, you're Jew, not a christian. Otherwise, you risk being seen as a hypocrite.

danvon:
Good we are the Israelites who will inherit his kingdom, not those wicked gay loving people in Israel so stop supporting them

BUT YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF HILLARY CLINTON THE GAY PROMOTER

yellow237:
agentofallah pls we dont need ur preaching here take it to ur Muslim brothers,cos all this thing u ar saying ar just trash and ur own make up story.....one more thing don't quote ur Quran to us cos even that contradict all ur lies

I don't suppose you know the meaning of "preaching".

danvon:
Israel supports homosexuality

Indeed, Our Great CREATOR's vested intrest in Jerualem has made all to target the Land. Most hosexuals are satanists. As moslems have been trying to claim Jerusalem, satanists too have mobilized from all over Europe and gathered in Isreal, hurrudly frantically trying to make Israel their Capital too. If u know little about satan, you'll know that whatever GOD choose, he'l frantically try to possess. Many Pastors' children suffer this phenomenon too.