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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by fcmacdon: 9:44pm On Dec 21, 2017
The law or commandment of tithe is no longer applicable to this dispensation of grace. Our message should be on given according to your ability or as purposed. (2Cor. 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.)

Why is it that Pastors are concerned more about tithe in Malachi 3 and leaving Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24.

There are over 600 laws or commandments in the old testament. And the Bible made us to understand that if one is broken all are broken and that the law(s) cannot save us.

Abraham never paid tithe from is daily, weekly, monthly or yearly income but the once he paid tithe was from the spoils of war (the goods and properties he collected after the war with people the fought Sodom where is brother "Lot" was Gen. 14:1-24).

I am not against any one who decide to pay tithe.
But these men God should tell the people the truth and not using Malachi to treat members. But if you must obey the law of tithe then also obey the other laws.

No abuse please. Correct me with Scripture
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by rosita33(f): 9:45pm On Dec 21, 2017
Mariangeles:
"Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they'll also persecute you;if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also" John 15 :20
please bring a verse for us to believe most pastors are not thieves feeding on gullibles all in the name of tithes.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by lloyds(m): 9:51pm On Dec 21, 2017
What ideology does a canal man has concerning the things of the spirit.
May be he was even with his prostitutes while making his assertions.

Very soon, the world will see the deception and confusion wind caked Freeze.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by lloyds(m): 9:52pm On Dec 21, 2017
What ideology does a canal man has concerning the things of the spirit.
May be he was even with his prostitutes while making his assertions.

Very soon, the world will see the deception and confusion wind called Freeze.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by lloyds(m): 9:56pm On Dec 21, 2017
I have even decided to give more to work of God including tithe. May the work of God continue to prosper, and his servants continue live His glory.

Freeze can go and hang transformer if he likes. He is a devil.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by felixomor: 10:00pm On Dec 21, 2017
Yyeske:
And who was it meant for that he gave several churches the instruction?
Go through that link and go through those passages cited to know who it was meant for, it wasn't even stated as a tithe
Read the earlier chapters again.

Read here very well

Especially:

1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .


Read the bolded parts very well. cool

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by felixomor: 10:01pm On Dec 21, 2017
rosita33:
please explain what you quoted cos I don't understand any.

Its quite self explanatory, Maam
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by Mariangeles(f): 10:11pm On Dec 21, 2017
rosita33:
please bring a verse for us to believe most pastors are not thieves feeding on gullibles all in the name of tithes.
Get thee behind me...
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by Dreamtouch: 10:19pm On Dec 21, 2017
If you read matt 23 vs 23, new living translations, you will never take freeze serious again
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by openmine(m): 10:21pm On Dec 21, 2017
mabea:
This guy keeps soaring in ignorance. New covenant (testament) started after the death of Christ. You no longer require a priest to make sacrifice on your behalf, you dont need the blood of animal to atonne for your sin etc. He said that Jesus is our great high priest after the order of mechizedek who accepted tithe from the hand of abraham, now if Jesus is our great high priest(in his death) after the order of mechizedek then it means that He as well collects or is still collecting our tithe.
What to you is the "order of Melchizedek" based on the scriptures?
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by cenjoe: 10:24pm On Dec 21, 2017
openmine:
cheesy
The one that baffles me most is that 99% of those who tithe don't follow the requirements of tithing as contained in the law of moses from the bible...
They only do what the Pastor in the church they attend instructs them....which is the extra ordinary Malachi 3:10 cheesy

Was having a discussion with a friend who tithes...I asked her to show me a scripture on tithe and she directed me to malachi 3:10 as usual cheesy
When i showed her Deuteronomy 14:22-29,she could not believe it....She was even doubting the same bible she was reading...she even had to go to "King James Version" to ensure Deuteronomy 14:22-29 was actually there and also "required her to eat her tithe" grin grin grin grin
She ended up saying she will still go with Malachi 3:10 grin grin
Her reason is that She first saw Malachi 3:10 before Deuteronomy 14:22-29 and that her Pastor never said any thing about eating their tithe according to Deuteronomy 14:22-29!
I shook my head...Wahala dey ohhh cheesy cheesy

The problem is that most people, including preachers of Malachi 3:10, don't even understand or don't want to understand what Malachi is saying. Malachi 3:10 was speaking to the Jews that already knew the law and how tithe should be given. Malachi 3:10 never annulled Deut 14:22-29. Rather, it rebuked the priests and the entire nation for not carrying out the tithing and offering procedure the way they're supposed. So, it still boils down to the fact that if you're quoting Malachi 3:10 to support tithing and you're not doing it according to Deuteronomy 14:22-29, you're breaking the law and according to Malachi 3:9, you're cursed with a curse cos you've "despised and polluted holy things". Cos as people who want to follow and obey the law, you must carry it out to the letter...

And to the ignorant (those without knowledge of the word of God) who claim that "Jesus did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it", I totally agree with you but I want to ask if you actually know the meaning of "FULFILLED". The question is, if something is fulfilled (completed, finished, done, accomplished, carried into effect), does it need to be carried out, done, practiced or repeated again

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by lereinter(m): 10:41pm On Dec 21, 2017
mikky4764:
dear Daddy Freeze, open attack will not change anything, we believe in tithe and we will pay our tithes.



who are the 'we'

how has freeze prevented anybody from paying tithe
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by openmine(m): 10:43pm On Dec 21, 2017
cenjoe:


The problem is that most people, including preachers of Malachi 3:10, don't even understand or don't want to understand what Malachi is saying. Malachi 3:10 was speaking to the Jews that already knew the law and how tithe should be given. Malachi 3:10 never annulled Deut 14:22-29. Rather, it rebuked the priests and the entire nation for not carrying out the tithing and offering proceedure
That's true....its just that most tithers treat Deuteronomy and Malachi as separate entities forgetting that the law was still in place during the time of Deuteronomy and Malachi even during the time of Christ on earth!

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by Chinagurum1995(m): 10:51pm On Dec 21, 2017
Yeye Daddy Freeze Announces the Gospel and Like I say You Dey go Preach na Church. lol undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by BlvckSoul(m): 10:58pm On Dec 21, 2017
wildernessVoice:


This man called Daddy freeze, if he didn't repent before this year ends ; he will enter the new year frozen by devourers in Jesus name.

What is this one saying? Smh.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by cckalima: 11:00pm On Dec 21, 2017
felixomor:
1Cor 16 :1 Now concerning the collection for the saints , as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

16:3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.

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1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .


Shalom!
and this living of the gospel is the main reason many of you are attracted to the gospel trade rather than the salvation of souls yet in your gospel trading evil keep multiplying endlessly.
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by adetayo234: 11:01pm On Dec 21, 2017
mikky4764:
dear Daddy Freeze, open attack will not change anything, we believe in tithe and we will pay our tithes.

Why do you believe in tithe? Is it because the scripture say you should pay or because your pastors psyched you that tithing will bring you blessing?

Which one do you really believe? Your pastor or Jesus Christ?
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by BlvckSoul(m): 11:04pm On Dec 21, 2017
Dreamtouch:
If you read matt 23 vs 23, new living translations, you will never take freeze serious again

Lol, oga, JESUS was talking to the Pharisees, who were Jews, before the 2nd covenant.

We are not Jews, we are Gentiles and we are under the 2nd covenant.

Pls read the scriptures in context.
Peace ✌�

Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by adetayo234: 11:04pm On Dec 21, 2017
felixomor:
1Cor 16 :1 Now concerning the collection for the saints , as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

16:3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.

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1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .


Shalom!

I'm still waiting for you to show me the word "tithe" in that Bible passage.

Last time I checked, this whole thing isn't about collection of saints; it is about tithe.

If you guys claim to be Pentecostal Christians, why is there no knowledge or wisdom of the Holy Spirit in your comments? Or shouldn't the Holy Spirit be the center of Pentecostalism? How come he is lacking in your liv s?
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by buragidi(m): 11:11pm On Dec 21, 2017
It's your assumption and not the truth. The most successful men in the world do not even believe in your God, while some of your tithe-paying mugus die like chicken.
mikky4764:

I like ur reasoning but I wish they were right. u don't faith without works, both go hand in hand. I can't sit and fold hands expecting manna to fall from heaven, but the truth is that u can't go far without allowing God to lead the way

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by olusayeroyagi(m): 11:16pm On Dec 21, 2017
KushyKush:
Criminals.

None of them can back any of their arguments with a biblical verse but their are quick to quote bibles back to back when judging others (sinners) for hell. TB JOSHUA is one of the very very very few men of God who feed the people both physically and spiritually.

All pastors collecting tithe without using it to feed the church will go to hell

All pastors collecting tithe to buy new cloths and cars will die from accidents with those cars. They will all end up in Hell burning and weeping in regret.


Any pastor collecting tithe to feed his family will loss every member of his family in an accident.

The Bible says bring all tithes to my house so there will be meat. This "meat" was never to feed the pastor alone but also those who does not have.

Nowadays the only thing these pastors care about is the tithe. They don't even peach about holiness and the kingdom of God anymore. It is just about blessings and POWER TO GET WEALTH.

The judgment of God will fall on you all and those tears of the poor will judge you all.

Anyone that quotes me to defend these criminals will die in three market days. angry
Lolz baba u no get chill small small now
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by felixomor: 11:18pm On Dec 21, 2017
adetayo234:


I'm still waiting for you to show me the word "tithe" in that Bible passage.

Last time I checked, this whole thing isn't about collection of saints; it is about tithe.

If you guys claim to be Pentecostal Christians, why is there no knowledge or wisdom of the Holy Spirit in your comments? Or shouldn't the Holy Spirit be the center of Pentecostalism? How come he is lacking in your liv s?

Oga, there is nothing special about the word tithe
It simply means ten percent.

And its clear there Paul instructed that People should give money weekly according to their income.

Its not different my dear.
They even did theirs weekly.
It makes theirs even harder

And read the preceding verses again.
Unfortunately, stinginess wont let u people read.

1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
.......

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by felixomor: 11:20pm On Dec 21, 2017
cckalima:
and this living of the gospel is the main reason many of you are attracted to the gospel trade rather than the salvation of souls yet in your gospel trading evil keep multiplying endlessly.

That is your opinion. My dear
I only quoted Scripture cool
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by Boss13: 11:22pm On Dec 21, 2017
Dongreat:
It’s so funny and strange when you see Nigerians whose land is situated in the continent of Africa, a continent known for her diverse culture and religion, had Egypt the land where religion truly started by worshiping several gods Anubis, Osiri, Amun etc and for a period with the reign of Akhenaten brought along the first monotheism of which Christianity plagiarized, worshipping, blinding defending and fanatism for a WHITE man god.

They came to our land, told us that our gods are unexisted, gave us a book written by no true author, amended to twist facts, a book written 2000yeras ago, 3000 years after Egyptology and a book where most of the stories including life and after death were plagiarized from the Egyptian book of the dead, and we Nigerians swallow hook and line and finally got tied into both physically and mental slavery.

Jesus said “In my father’s house there are many mansions and if it wasn’t so I won’t tell you” yet an OMNIPOTENT (check the meaning) god is literally asking for your physical dirty paper laced with chemicals and containing faces of celebrated corrupt individuals, and if you don’t you shall suffer, yet he’s omnipotent.

Don’t be stupid Nigerians. Read, study and you will see everything is a sham. If I have mansions in the after life why bother about private jets, earth mansions when I know my time is limited or luxury cars? Oh yes there’s none so I got to go banging on every vanity even at the expenses of the gullible poor.

Nigerians, Narialanders, time to think critically.

Ps: “the thief come to kill, steal and destroy but I come to give eternal life”. From the same man “if you think I come to bring peace to the world then you are mistaken for I come to bring the sword”.
You would think a perfect man can’t contradict himself.

You said something that really strikes home. It’s funny how Nigerians have quickly forgotten that we are Africans and fight over foreign religions and the white man’s history.

Africans wake up and stop losing your identity
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by adetayo234: 11:27pm On Dec 21, 2017
Odianose13:
Freeze again? Bros wetin? Even if u were sent from the pit of hell, be matured about it na. Open attack on a religious group doesn't help o. Cos when u start suffering alone, nobody will be there for u.

I believe in tithe. If you don't like it, stay off and be silent. You wey no come dey pay tithe, ur life na im come good, wey u be like didirin bai?

Freeze is just a Religious Bigot
!

Your believe in tithe is based on what? The directives of Jesus Christ or fear induced by your pastor?
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by openmine(m): 11:29pm On Dec 21, 2017
ushafe:
Pls , someone should read Mathew 23:23 With all sincerity of heart
Jesus made dis statement when he was still UNDER THE LAW....in other words,he could not abolish or condemn tithe...just the same way he could not abolish burnt offering or burning of incense or circumcision....

He needed to die for the law of moses(which includes tithes) to be brought to its completion!
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by adetayo234: 11:29pm On Dec 21, 2017
BumbleDevil:
Let us settle this issue of tithe once and for all.

Those who preach and promote tithe succeeded to a large extent by instilling fears into the people so they won't question the rationale behind tithe and tithing.

As I have said earlier, because Jesus was not from the tribe of Levi, he did not demand a tithe. His descent from the tribe of Judah makes him ineligible to receive tithe, so why do we Christians (Christ-like) receive tithes.

The focal point of the tithe is that IT IS ONLY MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI who were ordained to receive tithe. The Levites in return as demanded by God were to give a tenth of that tithe to the priest (Read Numbers 18:25-28).

Modern-day pastors represent the priest in the old testament. In Number 18:1-21, God commanded the priests to take their brethren, the Levites to come and assist them in the temple with certain restrictions and he gave the priest their own inheritance of the offerings brought into the temple, of all first offspring of both animals and humans. To this end, any Pastor collecting tithe is only usurping the inheritance of the Levites because God did not authorize the priest to receive tithe. Going further, if modern day pastors receive tithes as they are now claiming ownership of tithes, then to whom did they give the 10 percent God commanded the Levites to give to the Priest.
If the act of offering animal sacrifices as commanded by God, is no longer valid today, then why is TITHE

Payment of tithe as ordained by God is to only a group of people, and only one group... The LEVITES. It is categorically stated that the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve ancient tribes in Israel, and no one else, had the authority to receive tithe. (Numbers 3:1-10,24, Number 4)

People are quick to refer to Genesis 14:20 and Genesis 28:22 when Abraham and Jacob practiced tithing. However, we should understand clearly that Abraham practiced practices tithing willingly and voluntarily devoid of any divine injunction. He also gave a tithe from the spoils of war and not from his produce. Jacob's tithing, on the other hand, was a promised he made to God if God will bless him.

Modern-day Pastors are totally disqualified from receiving tithe because there is no OFFICIAL body of men functioning as the Levites.

No one has the right to choose to whom they pay the tithe that God has ordained to be paid to the Levites. So it is not only the receiver of tithe that disobeys God, but also the payers.(Numbers 16:47-54, Deuteronomy 10:1-9) You cannot do that which God has not appointed you to do, those who tried it are severely punished, some with death. 2 Samuel 6:1-8, 1 Chronicles 13: 9-12.

Burnt offering and tithe are practiced in Judaism. So why leave out the burnt offering and hold on to tithe.

Preachers, Prophets, Pastors, G.O's should heed the teaching of God and refrain from taking what does not belong to them.

Don't expect them to change. Many of them have lied to church members that God told them to receive tithe. So, to now go back to the same members and say it is not true will make them lose their popularity. And believe me, they prefer the popularity to the scriptural truth
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by jamboloun: 11:35pm On Dec 21, 2017
Ajpharm:
Nigeria's brand of Christianity never ceases to amaze me... Nigerian pastors now address issues based on sentiments rather than using the Bible which is the basis of the religion... I see why this country is such a backward one.
you are indeed unknowledgeable about the things of God. people always wants to explain God's ways with human philosophy but the knowledge of God's word can only be spiritually discern. Only those who have the mind of God. If u like pay your tithe and I not...

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Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by adetayo234: 11:36pm On Dec 21, 2017
felixomor:


Oga, there is nothing special about the word tithe
It simply means ten percent.

And its clear there Paul instructed that People should give money weekly according to their income.

Its not different my dear.
They even did theirs weekly.
It makes theirs even harder

And read the preceding verses again.
Unfortunately, stinginess wont let u people read.

1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
.......

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .

Oga, you are talking blindly.

There is something special about tithe. It means 10%. If there is nothing special about it, God won't specifically say bring the TITHES and OFFERINGS. he could have just said "bring the offerings." Each response you people give about this tithe thing further shows that you are only struggling to save face. Looks like the Holy Spirit has long departed from your arguments. All that remains now is effort not to appear as wrong to the general public. Did Jesus collect or give tithe? Did any of the first Christians collect or give tithe? Why didn't Peter, John or Paul give Injunctions for tithe payment?
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by lonlytroy(m): 11:36pm On Dec 21, 2017
Will pay tithe if it suit me beside if a pastor is forcing u to pay. U can change church
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by Justbright(m): 11:38pm On Dec 21, 2017
felixomor:
1Cor 16 :1 Now concerning the collection for the saints , as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

16:3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.

-------------------
1Cor 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel .


Shalom!



D passage u quoted is talking about giving to pastors or men of God ...its not addressing tithing...read and understand sir
Re: Daddy Freeze Replies Zack Orji - Pity Will Not Solve Tithing, Give Us Quotations by felixomor: 11:42pm On Dec 21, 2017
Justbright:




D passage u quoted is talking about giving to pastors or men of God ...its not addressing tithing...read and understand sir

The scripture i quoted is even more difficult than tithing.
They were meant to remit according to their income weekly.

Thank God for grace!

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