Empiree:
lol, I have not even started with you guys. But since you skipped, let me bring you back small. Did the Jews dropped from the sky unto the land?. Did you read the bible that there were people also living there and Yahweh ordered them to kill Amalekites and occupied the land. This shows that they had to kill ppl to claim the land too.

O ya, let's keep dragging it

Raintaker:
Lol, so much ignorant Christaains on this thread, imagine someone saying there was nothing like Palestine during David's or whoever's reign.
So you didn't know that the Philistine mentioned in whatever religion book you guys use is the Palestine of today?
Just a change of pronunciation over so many years.



One other guy said, their ancestors got the land by fighting off the original inhabitants and killing them, so that makes it their land.

So when the offspring of the initial inhabitants reclaimed their land and re-established their, they've done something wrong right?
But when it comes to the Israelis, you lot claim they are back to reclaim their land hence their present day aggression.



It's really pitiable how you lots reason, bunch if 2-faced hypocritical Christians.

Empiree:
Sorry, buddy. Quran does not deny God gave Israelites Holy Land but on two CONDITIONS which they violated. That was the reason they were kicked out from the Land the first and second time.

But if you look in their Bible today, they changed the word that they do not have to be righteous in conduct to possess the Land.


◄ Deuteronomy 9:5-6 ►



It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the LORD your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people.



You dont need degree to figure out this was fabricated. You can see from verse 5 suggesting their were people given the Land before them. Those people too were probably disbelievers and very wicked was the reason God destroyed them and brought the Jews to the Land. The Jews also came in and started their wickedness like money changer on interest, killing of prophets and disobeying God. These are in conflict with conditions given them. That's, the conditions to believe in God is One and be righteous in conduct.

Today, have they not being wicked by killing people now?. Do you have eyes to see that or not. Because they violated the conditions was the reason God kicked them out by sending them Babylonian army to destroyed their temple and homes and kill their people. and they were exiled. After yrs in exile, God pardoned them and brought them back t the Holy Land with same conditions. They violated the conditions again when they killed their prophets and Jesus and defiled God's Laws. God sent to them the second time Roman Army to destroy them and banned them forever from ever return to the Holy Land. It is after that God raised the muslim community that they (muslims) will inherit the Land no matter what. However, in order to receive their final punishment for defiling God, God promised to bring them back in the Last Age to the Holy Land from wherever they might scattered in order to inflict on them the worst possible punishment. And He warned again, if you return to your wickedness, God will return their punishment. This is what Quran says at the beginning of chapter 17. Pls go and read it. So now, are they not practicing wickedness and evil conducts like homosexual now on the Holy Land?. If you have eyes and cant see, i can't help you. They were not the only people established on the Land before. So the Land no longer belong to them by Divine authority.


Their bringing them back to the Holy Land in the Last Age as said in the Qur'an was [b]entrapmen]. It doesn't mean they are rightful owner. Some Jewish Rabbis recognized this entrapment. That's why they try to avoid settling their and defiled zionist Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2mdPbYnZI


Rabbi Dovid Weiss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJlI-xRSVts

Listen to this Rabbi confirmed what Qur'an said. [b]"He said we were exiled by God. We are to live amongst people. We do not want a Jewish sta]

danvon:
Historically Israel has no original land according to the Bible Israel was divided into Israel and Judah, Israel consists of 10 tribes capital Samaria, Judah consists of 2 tribes capital Jerusalem, Israel was conquered by Assyrians, no nation has been called Israel for over a millennium even in the New Testament it wasn't called Israel

alBHAGDADI:
stop saying trash.

jeruzi:
There has been a lot of argument concerning the ownership of the land isreal now occupy. If they are not the owner, where then is their land in the the middle east, since the Holy Bible and quran talked about them? Scholars, give your views

alBHAGDADI:
Stop peddling falsehood.

That land was given to the Israelites when God showed Abraham the land and promised that his children will inherit it. Abraham gave birth to Isaac who gave birth to Jacob whom God named Israel. His children till this day are known as Israelites and are in possession of what God promised Abraham their father.

Genesis 12:6-7

6 Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land. 7 The Lord appeared to Abram and said, “To your offspring[c] I will give this land.” So he built an altar there to the Lord, who had appeared to him.


If you Muslims you believe in the God the Bible speaks of, as you all love to claim, then you should know that he never promised that land to any people called Palestinians but to the Children of Abraham who are called Israelites today.

Now, as for the Canaanites who lived there before it was taken by the Jews. You might as well blame God for telling the Jews to kill thise people even though you know clearly that they did very evil things in that land. Mind you, since you believe God is allah, then it is allah you should blame.

Do you want to call God unjust for ordering the death of the amalekites and Canaanites of that land when they did evil? Remember God also punished the Israelites when they did evil in the land by sending them on exile for years. The reason why He didn't order for them to be killed is cos He already promised the land to them, so killing them will render the land without its true owners.This is why no effort by the Palestine can wrestle that land from them cos it wasn't promised to palestines but Israelites. Can't you read the handwriting on the wall? From going on exile to miraculously gaining back your land to now defeating the arabs and now Trump's declaration. All these goodies can only happen when you have God's backing. On the other hand, those losing are facing losses cos they never had God's backing cos He doesn't back thieves.

PrecisionFx:



The people living in Israel are Europeans.

alBHAGDADI:


At bold

So you believe Jesus was killed, yet you go about peddling the narrative of the Quran that he wasn't.
I believe the reason why you agree he was killed is just because you want to buttress your lies.

jeruzi:
You religion is funny. I never told you Abraham was a pagan. Abraham served the living God, He passed the worship on to his descendants Isaac, Jacob, Israel.

jeruzi:
The interpretation of Jer.8:8, is not that of changing the Torah but of wrong interpretation of the Torah, and disobedience to the law. In Mal. 4:4, God told the people of Israel to remember the law of moses. If it were erroneous, God would not have told them to remember it years aftet the prophet Jeremiah whom you quoted. the original manuscripts are well preserved.

If you study that same book of Jer. From chapter 7 to 10, you will see that it was a clear case of disobedience.

Empiree:
"You and your fvking Jesus, we killed Jesus and we proud of it". This is my land, this is my house, God gave it to me fvck you"

It is their words not mine. Borrow yourself a brain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

Empiree:
Are they following Mosaic Laws now?. No. They have abandoned it for secular Laws. This is one of the many corruptions we talking about. Your christian religion which should be following the Laws have abandoned it too. So you and them can't be entitled to the Holy Land unless and until you follow Mosaic Laws



They still disobeyed or not?

Empiree:
I have made up my mind not to take you serious. @bold sums up everything. and i see how you tried to hypocritically switch God for Allah and Allah for God where it suits you. Kontinu

danvon:
you're just quoting anybody abi, looking for who will argue with you this night abi, tell me the 'trash' I said

Empiree:
this is waste of time. Quran is on point. It says without mincing words that Abraham was a muslim. Where in your Bible it says Abraham was christian or Jew?. I will be waiting for your answer. Meanwhile, what type of worship did he pass down to his children, Judaism or christianity?. I need your answer

bloodmoneyspita:
I bought fuel 300 naira today.

jeruzi:
Wow! So no antiIsrael protester can show us another location in the world for Israel.

jeruzi:
Wow! So no antiIsrael protester can show us another location in the world for Israel.

danvon:
Historically Israel has no original land according to the Bible Israel was divided into Israel and Judah, Israel consists of 10 tribes capital Samaria, Judah consists of 2 tribes capital Jerusalem, Israel was conquered by Assyrians, no nation has been called Israel for over a millennium even in the New Testament it wasn't called Israel

gabe:
Israelis are just like fulani. Fvckng land grabbers

PrecisionFx:



The people living in Israel are Europeans.

jeruzi:
You are very wrong, just like alBHAGDADI said. Go and re-read your the Holy Bible and history. It may be that you just want to lie.

orisa37:



so they say The Afonjas no longer exist on their God-given land.

alBHAGDADI:
In what way are Muslims obeying the Mosaic law for you to assume they are entitled to a land that was never promised to them?

Below is one of the laws which Muhammad himself broke and which Muslims are breaking today.

Leviticus 11:6

The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a divided hoof; it is unclean for you.


(Sahih Bukhari, Hadith: 2572. Also see: Hadith: 5489, Sahih Muslim, Hadith: 1953 and Fathul Bari, Hadith: 5535)

“We chased a rabbit at ‘Mar az Zahran. The people ran after it but got tired. I got to it, took it and brought it to Abu Talhah (radiyallahu ‘anhu) who slaughtered it and sent its haunch or thighs to Rasulullah (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). [Shu’bah rahimahullah, one of the narrators said, “There is no doubt that it was its thighs”] Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) accepted it. I asked, ‘Did he eat some of it?’ He replied, ‘He ate some of it.’ Then he later said, ‘He accepted it.

Empiree:
this is waste of time. Quran is on point. It says without mincing words that Abraham was a muslim. Where in your Bible it says Abraham was christian or Jew?. I will be waiting for your answer. Meanwhile, what type of worship did he pass down to his children, Judaism or christianity?. I need your answer