Partnerbiz:


You said they were ranting in vain since the bill had already been passed into law.
And I inquired if passage of passage of the same was sacrosanct and devoid of any remedy?


So it cannot be declared null and void by the courts?

National Policy on Education (NPE) stipulates that the medium of instruction should be the language of the immediate environment of the child. Schools are free to select such Nigerian Language to be taught.



http://www.nerdc.org.ng/eCurriculum/CurriculumSTructure.aspx

deomelllo:

Fact is, you have zero credibility here and your misguided argument is based on your hate, dislike and anti Lagos sentiments.

You think Lagos is a slum, Lagos is over-hyped and even though the topic of discussion in this thread is the new Yoruba Language law, but your first post in this thread was irrelevant and off topic rubbish about dirty Lagos.

Besides, of what relevance is your meaningless argument? The people of Lagos via their elected representatives charged to make decisions for the people of Lagos state made the right call, it doesn't have to be right in the eyes of Lagos hating people like you, but it's the right call in the eyes of the people of Lagos and the Lagos electorates.

oodualover:

... You have proven that you are a Yoruba hater through your past comments. Just in case your ignorant mind does not know this, Anambra made ibo language course compulsory for every student that gained admission into their state's higher institutions...
Anybody that criticize that bill is a Yoruba hater...

Amarabae:

Crap.
Allow ur own culture to flourish first before allowing another person own to flourish.

cKaiser:
By Chukwujekwu Ilozue
Onitsha — Principals of secondary schools in Anambra State who promote pupils from Junior Secondary School III (JSS III) to Senior Secondary School I (SSS I) without the pupils passing Igbo language are to be removed from their positions and fined N5,000, for each of the pupils so promoted.

Also, any state or privately owned tertiary institution in the state which is found not to have established an Igbo language department or made Igbo language a mandatory general studies course by September, 2011 shall pay a fine of N100,000 for every month in which the offence continues
http://allafrica.com/stories/201006080539.html

Efewestern:


The motive behind those comments was the highlight the true state of Nigeria's biggest city, instead of living In self denial, how you translated that into a hate speech beats me, I actually have nothing to proof to you.. believe anything you want to believe.

It's your state, do anything you so wish.. I just said what I feel.

Efewestern:


The motive behind those comments was the highlight the true state of Nigeria's biggest city, instead of living In self denial, how you translated that into a hate speech beats me, I actually have nothing to proof to you.. believe anything you want to believe.



It's your state, do anything you so wish.. I just said what I feel.



so because I don't agree with this bill automatically makes me a Yoruba hater?, wow.. never knew opposing some else's view automatically makes him a hater. Stop the emotional blackmail, I gave my reasons why I don't support the language bill.

Anambra and Lagos are not the same, let's take this example, the Urhobos/isoko hardly migrate east Ward, instead they tend to settle In western states like ondo, ogun and lagos, now laws like this will somehow affect any urhobo indigene seeking admission into any of Lagos state institution, or how do you explain to a young man in warri who wants to Attend LASU but was told he needed a pass Yoruba in waec, someone who hasn't been taught Yoruba all his life, I clearly understand you want your language and culture preserved, but believe me this isn't funny.

And stop trying to turn this into a tribal ish.. I hold nothing against you.

deomelllo:
No, it can not be overturned because the LASG did exactly what the FG and the constitution recommended especially the red ilithed part.

omonnakoda:


What do I say to him ?

Try Unilag, LASU was not set up to cater for such "migrants " . Isoko and Urhobo kids who have grown up in Lagos and whose parents are taxpayers should be catered for and they should be proficient in Yoruba. In future ALL kids who complete secondary education in Lagos must be literate in Yoruba. They are the ones that LASU must prioritise not children of non residents or non taxpayers. Those should try universities where they schooled or Private or federal universities
The truth is that such people and even indigenous Yoruba people are no longer encouraged to learn Yoruba and that is why this is an excellent law.
Jegede Sokoya the TV character was Igbo . He was born in an era when Yoruba education was emphasised.
We need to get back to that

In the UK UNIVERSITY education is free in SCOTTISH UNIVERSITIES for citizens in Scotland if you live there it is not free if you live in England

Those who live,work and pay tax in Lagos cannot have the same entitlement as those who work live and pay tax in Delta state.
With entitlement comes duties and obligations such as............


Learning Yoruba

LaudableXX:



You conveniently ignored the fact that Igbo is a compulsory part of mandatory courses like General Studies, in state-owned tertiary institutions in Anambra and Imo. You also ignored the fact that Igbo is compulsory in all state-owned primary and secondary schools within Anambra as well as Imo, and students will not be promoted to the next class if they fail Igbo, no matter how high their scores are, in English, Maths, Physics, Biology and other core subjects.

If Lagos state has decided to make a credit pass in Yoruba language part of its admission criteria into tertiary institutions, why don't you opt for a federal institution, where the law does not apply? Why are you wailing over this issue when alternatives exist nationwide?

There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about the law. The Lagos State House of Assembly is simply trying to preserve the cultural heritage of the state, and its indigenous language. You did not wail about "unconstitutionality" or rant about "tribalism", when Anambra made Igbo, a mandatory part of General Studies courses for all undergraduates within its' state-owned tertiary institutions, did you?

deomelllo:


No, I posted your own comments on different threads and different topics bashing, insulting and denigrating Lagos state and you even did the same thing in this thread even though this thread about Yoruba language Law in Lagos state, you still inserted your hate and disgust for Lagos by letting us know how dirty Lagos is instead of the topic of discussion which highlighted our true intentions and disdain for Lagos state regardless of any Language law or the main topic of discussion.

How hypocritical, absurd and contradictory asking how I translated your comment into hate speech, shouldn't you be asking yourself how you translated the topic, Yoruba Language Law in Lagos state into Lagos is dirty?

What you feel was generalization and ignorance since the whole of Lagos is not a slum and last I checked, they have slums in even the most developed countries around the globe.

Partnerbiz:
You mean that Unizik offers mandatory Igbo language course for ALL students. A federal Uni?

Thats incredible.

Efewestern:


Everything is silly about the move, If they limited the law to Primary and secondary school I wouldn't have complained, but they went too far, to the extent of Using Yoruba language as a major criteria for gaining admission into any of the state institution, something we haven't heard of since the history of this nation.

This is another tribalist nonsense taken too far, In Lagos almost half the population understand and speaks Yoruba fluently, the language is not endangered, so the law is useless believe me, this is not what the state needs now.

Efewestern:


You didn't acknowledge the fact that we have so many Yorubas schooling in Delta, especially Delsu and Ozoro which are state owned , now imagine us asking those Yoruba students to learn Urhobo before they will be admitted, won't they feel we are imposing our language and culture on them? or should we say Delsu wasn't set up to Carter for their needs?

So what you re implying is that, everybody should go to their state to further their education.. so much for one Nigeria.

Efewestern:


You didn't acknowledge the fact that we have so many Yorubas schooling in Delta, especially Delsu and Ozoro which are state owned , now imagine us asking those Yoruba students to learn Urhobo before they will be admitted, won't they feel we are imposing our language and culture on them? or should we say Delsu wasn't set up to Carter for their needs?

So what you re implying is that, everybody should go to their state to further their education.. so much for one Nigeria.

deomelllo:








No, it can not be overturned because the LASG did exactly what the FG and the constitution recommended especially the red lighted part.

cKaiser:


By Chukwujekwu Ilozue
Onitsha — Principals of secondary schools in Anambra State who promote pupils from Junior Secondary School III (JSS III) to Senior Secondary School I (SSS I) without the pupils passing Igbo language are to be removed from their positions and fined N5,000, for each of the pupils so promoted.

Also, any state or privately owned tertiary institution in the state which is found not to have established an Igbo language department or made Igbo language a mandatory general studies course by September, 2011 shall pay a fine of N100,000 for every month in which the offence continues
http://allafrica.com/stories/201006080539.html

LaudableXX:

Are you for real? The same Anambra that made Igbo a mandatory part of its compulsory General Studies course, in state owned tertiary institutions within Anambra? Unlike Lagos where the Yoruba language is just a criteria for admission into higher institutions, but it can be discarded after your admission process is completed?

Partnerbiz:


I need not argue with you more on this. We will be talking at cross purposes.
You have not even a smattering of the legal system.

Efewestern:


I said there are matters that needed urgent attention in Lagos instead of this language law and I used the refuse dump as an example .

if you noticed I didn't limit my criticism to Lagos alone, sometimes I do call warri names, I don't know why you were so concerned about lagos, and the last time I checked a huge part of lagos still looks unattractive, all thanks to our/Your "Good" leaders.

Partnerbiz:
Believing that is akin to believing that Nigeria is in Asia.

Partnerbiz:
The fact that you cited Unizik, a federal varsity as one offering Igbo compulsorily for all students casts aspersions on the authenticity of that source.

ASUTECH which was established through Law No. 7 of 30th July 1980 by the Government of the old Anambra, and operated as a multi-campus university, with campuses in Abakiliki, Enugu, Awka and Nnewi.

In 1991, following the split of the old Anambra State into Anambra and Enugu States, the Awka and Nnewi campuses of the former ASUTECH were constituent into Nnamdi Azikiwe University by the Anambra State Edict No.5 of November 26 1991. https://unizik.edu.ng/about/

Partnerbiz:


I need not argue with you more on this. We will be talking at cross purposes.
You have not even a smattering of the legal system.

deomelllo:


[b]That's up to your state to decide, Lagos state government is empowered by the people of Lagos state to make and enforce laws in Lagos state, not Delta state.

Lagos state doesn't function or exist based on what the people in Delta state are doing or not doing.

Again, LASG did exactly what the FG and the National Policy on Education (NPE) recommended, it is up to Delta state to follow or ignore that recommendation, but stop acting as if you know more than the framers of that policy.[/b]

That's the individual choices people have to make and if it's so important or necessary for Yoruba students to school in Delta state, well, they have other options because I'm sure they have a Federal University in Dleta state without such requirements.

They also have a FG university in Lagos without such requirements.

Efewestern:


The motive behind those comments was the highlight the true state of Nigeria's biggest city, instead of living In self denial, how you translated that into a hate speech beats me, I actually have nothing to proof to you.. believe anything you want to believe.



It's your state, do anything you so wish.. I just said what I feel.



so because I don't agree with this bill automatically makes me a Yoruba hater?, wow.. never knew opposing some else's view automatically makes him a hater. Stop the emotional blackmail, I gave my reasons why I don't support the language bill.

Anambra and Lagos are not the same, let's take this example, the Urhobos/isoko hardly migrate east Ward, instead they tend to settle In western states like ondo, ogun and lagos, now laws like this will somehow affect any urhobo indigene seeking admission into any of Lagos state institution, or how do you explain to a young man in warri who wants to Attend LASU but was told he needed a pass Yoruba in waec, someone who hasn't been taught Yoruba all his life, I clearly understand you want your language and culture preserved, but believe me this isn't funny.

And stop trying to turn this into a tribal ish.. I hold nothing against you.

Efewestern:


Laws made in Lagos state will somehow affect someone from another state, Especially regarding this Bill .

Let's assume 70% of non yoruba don't have a pass in Yoruba and hence can't seek admission into any of the state uni, they will be forced to go to their state to seek for admission, on getting there they will still end up competing with the students from other states , It actually means that you can't school in my state until you understand my language, but I can school in your state.



FG encouraged promotion of our local language, but not to use it as a criteria for admission.



Should every state follow this trend, I hope you know the implications.

erek:
I'm just surprised on how this country was even arranged into separate regions with each having a particular language.... if only ogun state that is very close to lagos is an Igbo state while that of IMO is a Yoruba state....den this level of unitary form of law bills been passed would have been at its minimum level.......interest, opinions, future growth of each region or state will never bring about that one NIGERIA so of us say as a common slogan.....I think we can only be one if all of us should just learn one language... and that should be...URHOBO.......



HEHEHEHE......LAUGHS IN URHOBO

Efewestern:


Laws made in Lagos state will somehow affect someone from another state, Especially regarding this Bill .

Let's assume 70% of non yoruba don't have a pass in Yoruba and hence can't seek admission into any of the state uni, they will be forced to go to their state to seek for admission, on getting there they will still end up competing with the students from other states , It actually means that you can't school in my state until you understand my language, but I can school in your state.



FG encouraged promotion of our local language, but not to use it as a criteria for admission.



Should every state follow this trend, I hope you know the implications.

USAbabe:
keep it on i am with u. after they will all be shouting one Nigeria

omenkaLives:
You don't seem to understand what I wrote. Was actually pointing out what the same Afam who's complaining today wrote a couple of years ago.