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Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Tudor6(f): 6:53pm On May 18, 2010 |
horseballs:If an ifa worshipper goes preaching on TV, its u same drunkards that'll complain. Somehow, christians feel its their sole right to badger everyone about god, jesus etc while others aren't allowed to promote their faith. i think u should get an education.What destroys in calling your ancestors for help? Is it not the same way u call ur dead jesus for help? I bet you still throw twins into the evil forest once they are born. village girl.funny how we hear this all the time from these rats. . .killing twins, killing twins. . . Were all African traditional religions killing twins? Go read your bible and see how your yahweh ordered the killing and sacrifice of women and children. Religions evolve as human morality changes too. Islam has refused to evolve from dark age practices and thats why we all frown at them. You goons try to hide the ugly n bloody past of ur yahweh faith while playing to the fore that of our fathers all in a bid to potray ATR's as evil. . . Like I said, i consider u all morons, sue me |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 6:57pm On May 18, 2010 |
^^ the point here is try to control your foul mouth and stop lashing out at everything and everyone. Learn to present your points civilly, not always in such a warmongering manner. most people have had hard knocks in life- get with the program. you're like that goob character in meet the robinsons. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Tudor6(f): 7:02pm On May 18, 2010 |
porka:Abegi. . . Irrationality isnt restricted to african religions alone. All religions are n irrational. Wats d rationality in believing a man rose from d dead after three days or someone lived in a fish for 3 days? |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 7:02pm On May 18, 2010 |
its part of the culture i think |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 7:06pm On May 18, 2010 |
Tudór: what's the rationality in googling yoruba and seeing pages and pages of fetishes, idols, and whatever? Are yorubas the only people involved in fetish? the point here is[b] the lack of diversity [/b] as if we're not capable of handling other subject matter. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 7:16pm On May 18, 2010 |
^^. . |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 7:17pm On May 18, 2010 |
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Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by porka: 7:19pm On May 18, 2010 |
To show how entrenched this stupidity and backwardness is, I heard a story of a professor of economics from Africa, who said money supply cannot be tracked because it’s difficult getting the data of those monies that come from RITUALS. Can you imagine that? A professor who was trained in the science and techniques of economics said MONEY RITUALISTS have impact in monetary policy. He didn’t say currency counterfeiters, he directly mentioned money ritualists, how they do it he didn’t explain, probably he couldn’t. That is why African’s problem defy solutions. That is why even our wars are most brutal. That is why the mind is so warped that nothing seems to be working. There is a nexus between this observation and the state of development of Africa as a whole. Can you imagine how the Hollywood has impacted on the American society and even societies outside America. What is more, these so-called Babalawos are dying of ordinary malaria fever in villages. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:24pm On May 18, 2010 |
~Sauron~: Yes they show herbalists but did you watch what becomes of them? Mount Zion movies are an evangelistic outreach to people who have been stuck in the deception of these babalawos, they show what true Christians who are missionaries encounter when they go on evangelistic outreaches in remote villages. Religious people who stay in the cities don't know the spiritual battles being fought to set our people free. If you truly watch their films you will realise that God always prevail over evil. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 7:28pm On May 18, 2010 |
OLAADEGBU: Mount zion movies have really touched lives positively. Most of their movies are based on true life stories like'just a little sin and the ark of God' |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Tudor6(f): 7:29pm On May 18, 2010 |
tpia.:*****YAWN**** tpia.:You google arab n u see pages and pages of domes, minerets, and all islamic bullshit. You google hindus n see pages n pages of hindi gods, worship n practices google catholic n u'll see pages and pages of catholic rituals, mass, communion, baptism, crucifix, roasry etc so what so u expect to see when you google yoruba? Green headed Aliens? Or is it only regarded as idol and fetishes wen its a black man doing his own thing? Go sleep jare |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Akosbaba(m): 7:37pm On May 18, 2010 |
One funny thing the poster isn't realising is the fact that despite the over concentration on fetish films,these are the things that happen on a daily basis,if u doubt me.try walking into any market where herbs are being sold and try spending a day there. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 8:33pm On May 18, 2010 |
Tudór: your analogies are off base and like i said, stop being so bitter that you cant even keep up any semblance of a normal conversation. O ga fun e!!!! this is what I got when i googled arab on google images: http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=arab&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi I googled hindu (A RELIGION) and found idols, temples, etc like you said. Now, is Yoruba a religion? Google India and tell me what you find. so who's yawning now? I think you need to get your brain out of your behind! |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by JeSoul(f): 8:36pm On May 18, 2010 |
Everyone, please please please, try to discuss with each other respectfully. I'd hate to have to lock this thread. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by AkoEja: 9:08pm On May 18, 2010 |
Yoruba films are dying because of the Babalawo problem. Bringing juju into everything has made me to stop watching Yoruba films. Its really disgusting. Its due to lack of quality amongst the producers. They usually involve the babalawos in cheesy idiotic and moronic plots. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by AkoEja: 9:13pm On May 18, 2010 |
To show how entrenched this stupidity and backwardness is, I heard a story of a professor of economics from Africa, who said money supply cannot be tracked because it’s difficult getting the data of those monies that come from RITUALS. Can you imagine that? A professor who was trained in the science and techniques of economics said MONEY RITUALISTS have impact in monetary policy. He didn’t say currency counterfeiters, he directly mentioned money ritualists, how they do it he didn’t explain, probably he couldn’t. Very intelligent comment, well said. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by medinatl: 9:48pm On May 18, 2010 |
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Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 10:00pm On May 18, 2010 |
Much ado about babalawo. It is very interesting to note that something as irrelevant as Babalawos in movies can generate so much heat, anger, and ill feelings. B4 y'all continue with ur bickering just get some things str8 1. Babalawo in yoruba movies have been here a long time and will continue to be produced and enjoyed by many no matter how much U hate it. 2. Ur rantings [ or anything else u may do] can't stop the production of babalawo in yoruba movies, or people from watching [and enjoying] babalawo in yoruba movies. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Moyola(f): 10:06pm On May 18, 2010 |
Itz a yoruba muvie! Sure Yorubaz had their deity b4 d arrival of Christianty, Islam, New Religious movementz n all |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Sauron1: 10:09pm On May 18, 2010 |
OLAADEGBU: Exactly ma point. Just like God always prevail over evil in Mount Zion movies is the way God always prevail in the Yoruba movies the OP is talking about. Yoruba movies don't promote Herbalists. . . . .Showing the audience that Babalawos exist is not promoting them. Are Nigerian movies also promoting pros[i]t[/i]itutes, hired assassins and armed robbers as well? |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by bee444: 11:14pm On May 18, 2010 |
medinatl: Analogy my sister, analogy. Don't take offence, se otigbo aburo? Just trying to make a statement. Not dissing muslims,ok. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by porka: 11:26pm On May 18, 2010 |
OLAADEGBU: Religion cannot set anyone free. No religion can obliterate the blight of poverty and disease and man-made problems. It is education. There are no religions in Africa, there are pseudo-religious enterprises. The so-called religious enterprises are a burden on these hapless villagers. What they need is how to grow their crops and get better yields, how to save their excess income and not squander it in ostentatious living, how to avoid or treat snake bite by wearing long boots, how to avoid tetanus infection and not call it attack, how to send their children to school to better their lots and not thinking of them jamming luck someday, how to protect themselves from adverse weather condition through weather information, how to avoid mosquito bites through proper usage of mosquito nets, how to organize themselves into civil societies to confront their representatives and claim their civil rights, how to take advantage of civil arbitration and not take laws into their hands by resorting to jungle justice, how not to have too many children that they cannot take care of. Put simply, how to master their environment. Religion cannot do it. It’s science that does that. The early missionaries in Africa and Asia used this simple technique to develop their host communities, unfortunately since they left, we have gone back to our primitive ways. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by bee444: 11:27pm On May 18, 2010 |
AkoEja: You're right bang on the point my dear! |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by bee444: 11:31pm On May 18, 2010 |
porka: You're a soothsayer , You just read my mind. Thank you so much. Your post is very educative, interesting and says it all. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Jibson999(m): 12:07am On May 19, 2010 |
AkoEja:because you stopped watching yoruba film doesnt mean it will not sell. I bet u buy pirated cds and other junk dvds and think u mean a lot, my friend go wear ur PAMPERS |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Ranoscky(m): 9:28am On May 19, 2010 |
Rano walks in read's the reccent posted thread . . . doze's off suddenly . . . zzzZZZZZZZZ, woke up later . . . still boring, then he said . . . @poster, pls wake me up when u have something resonable to talk about. then he went back to sleep! |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Nobody: 10:59am On May 19, 2010 |
I have seen people who have been healed by Babalawo, but I've never seen anyone who has ever been healed by a pastor |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by ceasyc(f): 11:02am On May 19, 2010 |
Babzilla: whoa! really hahaha lets c wot people have 2 say bout dat |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by PastorAIO: 11:03am On May 19, 2010 |
Babzilla: Babalawos are herbalists with a lot of knowledge of the medicinal value of herbs. Pastors don't have any medical training. That could be the difference. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by Gtitan: 12:03pm On May 19, 2010 |
I have really enjoyed this thread, most especially I have enjoyed people's response to b444's post, some are really hilarious, like Tudor, however I must say that even though I try to understand the logic behind the topic I really don't think the arguments holds enough ground. @bee444: Yoruba movie portraying balalawo's are just as good as you watching a Harry Porter movie that portrays witchcraft. These themes are more symbolic than real life. Although there are elements of these themes in today's society (not just Nigeria but all around the world) their purpose is to tell a story about where people are coming from i.e. their roots, heritage and early culture etc. These are important aspects of society because they tell about your history. Because you see babalawo being the solution to common problems in Yoruba movies does not mean that the producers are promoting babalawos. This is a movie, it is fiction (although possessing an element of truth) and what is seen in not as common as you have put it. Secondly, Nigerians are not traditionally Christains nor Moslems. They had their own beliefs tied to their own culture way back. It is the introduction of Christainity and Islam that has (sadly) demonized the old beliefs (exactly what you are doing in your response to some people). The old beliefs are just what they are -OLD- however they are not meant to be condemned or demonized. I say this to you as a non-Nigerian. I am italian and I can tell you that Nigeria does not have as many Old traditional beliefs as we do. We are born Catholics in my country however, we have preserved elements of our old beliefs so well we have even sold them to the world as classical beauty. E.g. the nine planets of our solar system are named after famous Roman gods. These gods have been used in movies, story books for children, video games etc. bee444, I encourage you as a good Christian, movies have symbolic meanings and serve their purpose in reminding us of all our history and elements of what our society was, so that tommorrow you and I can tell our descendants, this is where we came from. |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by PastorAIO: 4:46pm On May 19, 2010 |
You this italian guy, tell me. Why must italian renaissance art be full of depictions of myths and gods. If it is not Leda and the Swan, it is andromeda, or Zeus/jupiter getting up to one thing or the other. Opera too na the same thing. Imagine Wagner depicting the Valkyries in his operas. I don't want to see any more classical gods or heroes in this modern day christian world, so you better watch yourself or I go vex for you o!! I will break your balls if you continue. Gtitan: |
Re: Why Do Yoruba Movies Promote Babalawos? by wazobia200: 5:50pm On May 19, 2010 |
Some of you people dont know the inherent and evil nature of the babalawos. Yoruba culture is the best in africa, period!. The story line in most of the movies is way better and superior to the english ones. But babalawos, jujus and all these fetish practices should be done away with. Do you know how many ppl whose lives, carriers, advancement in life as been ruined by this evil practices. Many ppl destiny are altered and lives caught short before their appointed time by babalawos and fetishism. All these mysterious death you found common in yoruba land, you think it is ordinary. No my friend, most of them are as a result of ppl that take your 'case' to a babalawo because they were offended. You know how many famous(or would be famous) sons and daughters of the yorubas whose lives and destinies are truncated by this diabolically forces. This practices is rooted in witchcraft and nothing good comes out of witchcraft. The devil cannot offer anything good to humanity. But this heathen practices is increasing and will not decrease because we are in the last days. Such practices is common even in europe and movies that as mystical or magical flair to it sells better here in the USA. Dont get me wrong, yorubas are great ppl. The culture is the best. The use of words, the proverbs, the respect for elders etc are wonderful. But this heathen practices should be done away with from our culture. Because it as limited yoruba progress as individual and a collective body. If am president of that country, i will ban those babalawos and make it a crime for anyone to seek or practice such! |
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