Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:16pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Igboesika:
You are nothing but a frustrated old wretched nonentity who lacks the capcity to trace the source of tribulations. Nothing differs you from a slowpoke and ezi ofia. You don't have the monopoly of insults.
Normal human beings are replying and disagreeing with superior arguments without throwing tantrums, but mentally unstable slum dweller like you who belongs to the gutter won't fail to show us that you really inherited stupidity from your miserable parents. I will bury you alive in this thread if you don't receive sense inside your hopeless skull and argue intelligently like other progressive people here without throwing insults Report me to the mod .... Inconsequential lowlife coward. Ozu nwuru anwu. Nope you won't be reported. You have hard lessons to learn and I'm here to help with that. Your juvenile rants are just empty air devoid of reasoning. I counsel you to sit back and reflect on all I wrote, if you can. That is if you can keep your emotions in check. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:17pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Igboesika:
You are nothing but a frustrated old wretched nonentity who lacks the capcity to trace the source of tribulations. Nothing differs you from a slowpoke and ezi ofia. You don't have the monopoly of insults.
Normal human beings are replying and disagreeing with superior arguments without throwing tantrums, but mentally unstable slum dweller like you who belongs to the gutter won't fail to show us that you really inherited stupidity from your miserable parents. I will bury you alive in this thread if you don't receive sense inside your hopeless skull and argue intelligently like other progressive people here without throwing insults Report me to the mod .... Inconsequential lowlife coward. Ozu nwuru anwu. He's playing on your emotions. Stay in control. Deny him of attention and watch him leave. Stop replying him for crying out loud. He's just the first of many. Many of his ilks are on the touchlines watching, if you give him a foothold he wants, by engaging in bitter exchanges of post with him, other non Igbos would land here, and this thread will die. Ka Anyi mulu ako, biko. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by Igboesika: 6:19pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Nope you won't be reported. You have hard lessons to learn and I'm here to help with that. Your juvenile rants are just empty air devoid of reasoning. I counsel you to sit back and reflect on all I wrote, if you can. That is if you can keep your emotions in check. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I was expecting insults from you... Why the reverse? |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:22pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
Nnaa, on the bold. Hateful Igbophobic Igboid groups like Ikwerre cannot be part of Igbo nation. You can't build a nation with such people. How hard is this for you to grasp, what's wrong with you. Are you always this impervious to reasoning? Their lands belongs to them, and not to us. How can you even habour this kind of barbaric sentiment in 21st century. That's totally un Igbo.
We don't need to play bitter politics. We need to play pragmatic politics. Which involves making sure we protect our Igbo identity from vultures and impostors from those Igbophobic Igboids who desire to keep us perpetually politically irrelevant, by preying on the minds of the weak ones amongst us, to claim political offices and economic opportunities, which otherwise belongs to us.
You sound smart. If you love these i.diats you call your people, be advises to call them to order to avoid a repeat of 1966. If this mindset is what Nnamdi Kanu's crew have, then you better hurry and pass the memo on to them. For the sake of the many innocent souls who will be affected by such juvenile incitements. This was the exact same calm mien that Okpanam officer exhibited when he issued exit tickets to leaders of other regions and even had the guts to defend his foolishness. Your time starts now, hurry and tell those IPOB irritants. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:23pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:
Well, no problem if she is representing SE.
We don too try for PDP She is representing SE. There is nothing like SE/SS. Dave Umahi has already made that clear. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:25pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Igboesika:
I was expecting insults from you... Why the reverse?
Come on now. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) How will readers know the difference between you i.diats and a refined specimen of tact, diplomacy and all things classy like moi? You expect me to roll in the gutter with an i.diat like you? You should apologize for that insult. ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) |
Re: . by donguutti: 6:25pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
while we diss pablo for making his points the hard way,we need to understand his stance and see if his ideas can be adapted to the quest for a greater igbo/ss igbo/ss ethnic group union, someone mentioned margaret ekpo as one of the eastern minority leaders in the then eastern region,yet she was the daugh7er of an igbo,which dovetails into some of pablo's points.
On atiku,noi, nd peter obi... Shouldn't we be more concerned about what happens to the eastern ports if intels owner becomes president and how it affects strategic interests of ndiigbo. |
Re: . by Igboesika: 6:25pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
He's playing on your emotions. Stay in control. Deny him of attention and watch him leave. Stop replying him for crying out loud. He's just the first of many. Many of his ilks are on the touchlines watching, if you give him a foothold he wants, by engaging in bitter exchanges of post with him, other non Igbos would land here, and this thread will die.
Ka Anyi mulu ako, biko. My brother, do you know that half of those that are commenting on this thread are not Igbos? Some of them bring good suggestions, while some don't... Including impostors, Anambra wannabe and Enugu wannabe... But none of them has exhibited the level of stupidity that animal I quoted exhibited. Anyways... I have heard you. Lets keep the thread clean for the sake of Igbo unity and progress.. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:33pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
donguutti: while we diss pablo for making his points the hard way,we need to understand his stance and see if his ideas can be adapted to the quest for a greater igbo/ss igbo/ss ethnic group union, someone mentioned margaret ekpo as one of the eastern minority leaders in the then eastern region,yet she was the daugh7er of an igbo,which dovetails into some of pablo's points.
On atiku,noi, nd peter obi... Shouldn't we be more concerned about what happens to the eastern ports if intels owner becomes president and how it affects strategic interests of ndiigbo. Another smart one. Tell your blodas to stop making claims on what is not theirs ok? About the intels part, good point. Ever wondered why the Eastern ports are kept moribund to the advantage of Lagos? Or why Dangote selected Lagos for his mega project despite Lagos being choked up already? Why not Calabar, Akure or Warri? Or what would happen to Atiku's mikano generator business if he becomes president? I see you i.diats jubiliating over a presidency that will probably have nothing to do with you. How naive. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:36pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Igboesika:
My brother, do you know that half of those that are commenting on this thread are not Igbos? Some of them brings good suggestion, while some don't... Including impostors, Anambra wannabe and Enugu wannabe... But none of them has exhibited the level of stupidity that animal I quoted exhibited. Anyways... I have heard you. Lets keep the thread clean for the sake of Igbo unity and progress..
Welcome 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 6:38pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
I tire. Giving inconsequential Groups, a sense of relevancy. don't mind him. Instead of trying to develop the pro igbo one and also launching a massive campaign to enlighten our brethren 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:41pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
donguutti: while we diss pablo for making his points the hard way,we need to understand his stance and see if his ideas can be adapted to the quest for a greater igbo/ss igbo/ss ethnic group union, someone mentioned margaret ekpo as one of the eastern minority leaders in the then eastern region,yet she was the daugh7er of an igbo,which dovetails into some of pablo's points.
On atiku,noi, nd peter obi... Shouldn't we be more concerned about what happens to the eastern ports if intels owner becomes president and how it affects strategic interests of ndiigbo. I went through your post history. The last time you commented before today was on Jan 19. The year is almost running out, and today, you resurrected this moniker to support an Igbophobic post. You need to try harder. At least if you are going to play this game, try to be a bit smoother. You deceive no one. Pablo and his ilks, we know very well. His advice is not needed, we never asked for them. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by Obi1kenobi(m): 6:48pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Sooo why were those minorities not sympathetic to the Igbo cause after the war? Going by your "facts" above, they should have remembered what benefits they gained from the Igbos and helped them recover right?
Let me give you a tidbit of history. Do you have any idea the amount of carnage the Fulanis wrought in Hausa land? Did you know Adamawa state of today was made up of lands forcefully taken from natives by mere contingent of Fulani invaders? Did you know Adamawa was even cut into two with one half going to Cameron and another going to Nigeria? Did you know none of the Emirates across the length and breadth of the north has ever been ruled by the actual natives of those lands but only Fulanis? Why have these natives never risen up in revolt against the very harsh and firm rule of the Fulanis? Why are they still loyal to the Caliphate despite being ruled by an invader minority?
I will give you 5 reasons, ability to apply the right amount of diplomacy, ability to appeal to religious and cultural emotions ability to acquire and wield military force, ability to play state politics, political and economic benefits
Sadly these concepts are alien to silly id.iats like you. You're making yourself out to be exactly what other ethnic groups think you are, a greedy landgrabber.
What exactly are you offering to them for allowing you carve them up as you wish? What do they stand to gain by going with you and your wonderful plans? Why did Balewa work for his Fulani lords despite the status of his people as slaves to the Bauchi emirate? The Fulanis had something to offer, on a large scale.
You idi.ats on the other hand just about have nothing to offer yourselves, talk less of having remainders to offer a people who would suspect a gift from you without any ulterior motives.
Now what response do you expect when your motive is clearly sinister and devious? Was this what Nnamdi Kanu had cooking? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) A lot of these claims of yours seem to be ambiguous abstractions with no specificity to them. What exactly do you think the Fulanis had to offer the Hausas and Northern minorities who they dominate? Also, why do they seem to be warring with so many of their neighbours in many communities all over the North with this vaunted diplomatic quality of theirs? Why is it that we undiplomatic savages tend to live in peace wherever we go and these diplomatic heroes of your bring deadly conflicts with them wherever they go? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by donguutti: 6:49pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
I went through your post history. The last time you commented before today was on Jan 19. The year is almost running out, and today, you resurrected this moniker to support an Igbophobic post. You need to try harder. At least if you are going to play this game, try to be a bit smoother.
You deceive no one.
Pablo and his ilks, we know very well. His advise is not needed, we never asked for them. Can you tell me what last post date has to do with contributing to a pan igbo thread,if i had responded to a post in a way you liked wld you remember post history. The major problem of ipob-massob etc is living in an e6ho chamber which unfortunately was also ojukwu's problem...carry on bro soumding ur song.best of luck |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
I went through your post history. The last time you commented before today was on Jan 19. The year is almost running out, and today, you resurrected this moniker to support an Igbophobic post. You need to try harder. At least if you are going to play this game, try to be a bit smoother.
You deceive no one.
Pablo and his ilks, we know very well. His advice is not needed, we never asked for them. Oh but you do need advice. Can you drop the paranoia already? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) This is a public forum and people are reading and taking notes. Going by how thick headed and ignorant some of your over zealous blodas sound here, I'd say you put in more effort to educate and dissuade them from silly fantasies. I think you should take my advice ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:53pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
donguutti:
Can you tell me what last post date has to do with contributing to a pan igbo thread,if i had responded to a post in a way you liked wld you remember post history.
The major problem of ipob-massob etc is living in an e6ho chamber which unfortunately was also ojukwu's problem...carry on bro soumding ur song.best of luck This is a fake account. That's it. You can't build something out of nothing. Nothing you say on this your fraudulent moniker ressurected strictly to support an Igbophobic post would matter. If I were you, I would look for a better moniker. Many of your ilks are here, impostors, but they are smooth. Don't be the black sheep bro. You can do better than this, I know you can. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 7:08pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:
A lot of these claims of yours seem to be ambiguous abstractions with no specificity to them. What exactly do you think the Fulanis had to offer the Hausas and Northern minorities who they dominate? Also, why do they seem to be warring with so many of their neighbours in many communities all over the North with this vaunted diplomatic quality of theirs? Why is it that we undiplomatic savages tend to live in peace wherever we go and these diplomatic heroes of your bring deadly conflicts with them wherever they go?
Well, why did the British have to exile Oba Ovonramwen, Jaja and Nana before they took control of the Lower Niger? They introduced Xtianity to Nigeria remember? What happened to thou shall not kill or covet your neighbours goods? Why did they have to fight so many battles and destroy so many thriving kingdoms that never invited them in the first place? If you were so peaceful and good, and hence excellent candidates for leadership and political alliances, why did the British not hand over political power to you instead of the North? The Hausas and Fulanis had a civilized, literate and exposed empire that was already in contact with the developed world. They were trading and communicating with all the empires in North Africa. They had a formal court system with magistrates, prisons, a ranking police force, a ranking army (I know you won't understand this one), organized religious institutions, schools of higher learning, a graded tax system and tax collection bureaucracy, add to that a working civil service system AND CITIES! Did I mention currencies, treasuries and a highly organized political system to run it all? All these before the Europeans barged in. Sure they were ruthless and essentially a slave dealing empire, but the Europeans held no surprises for them. You lack a historical background on conquest and rulership by military domination if you're sincerely asking those questions. 1 Like |
Re: . by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:13pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
This is a fake account. That's it. You can't build something out of nothing.
Nothing you say on this your fraudulent moniker ressurected strictly to support an Igbophobic post would matter.
If I were you, I would look for a better moniker. Many of your ilks are here, impostors, but they are smooth. Don't be the black sheep bro. You can do better than this, I know you can. Just because of your claim, I went through the guy's posting history and can't make out what makes it a "fake account". You really have to quit delegitimizing people's roots because you don't like their post. It's a cancer on this forum and corrodes honest discourse. You can either confront or ignore posts you don't like, rather than baselessly accusing people of impersonation. Seems a kinda immature way to compel conformity among dissenters. Incase you didn't know or have somehow forgotten, there are tens of millions of Igbos in Nigeria and around the world and like all humans with brains, we happen to disagree on many matters. It's weird to have to defend such a principle among Igbos who pride themselves on their republicanism. 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 7:18pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:
Just because of your claim, I went through the guy's posting history and can't make out what makes it a "fake account". You really have to quit delegitimizing people's roots because you don't like their post. It's a cancer on this forum and corrodes honest discourse. You can either confront or ignore posts you don't like, rather than baselessly accusing people of impersonation. Seems a kinda immature way to compel conformity among dissenters. Incase you didn't know or have somehow forgotten, there are tens of millions of Igbos in Nigeria and around the world and like all humans with brains, we happen to disagree on many matters. It's weird to have to defend such a principle among Igbos who pride themselves on their republicanism. Lol! Birds of same feather. So, you want me to believe that a moniker that last commented since Jan 19 this year,, all of a sudden showed up to support an Igbophobic post? That's a double account. It's a fake. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by Daewang: 7:21pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
Hehe. Nwanne, on top Wetin nah. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Nwanne you too much. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 7:22pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Bede2u. Afuru m na Ara na agba gi.. U should Better stop that nonsense ideology of urs... Let us focus on something tangible and stop this ur futile claim of other people's land 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by PabloAfricanus(m): 7:22pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
Lol! Birds of same feather. So, you want me to believe that a moniker that last commented since Jan 19 this year,, all of a sudden showed up to support an Igbophobic post?
That's a double account. It's a fake. don't be silllly, you appear to be smarter than that. or wait, you can ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: . by horsepower101: 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:
Just because of your claim, I went through the guy's posting history and can't make out what makes it a "fake account". You really have to quit delegitimizing people's roots because you don't like their post. It's a cancer on this forum and corrodes honest discourse. You can either confront or ignore posts you don't like, rather than baselessly accusing people of impersonation. Seems a kinda immature way to compel conformity among dissenters. Incase you didn't know or have somehow forgotten, there are tens of millions of Igbos in Nigeria and around the world and like all humans with brains, we happen to disagree on many matters. It's weird to have to defend such a principle among Igbos who pride themselves on their republicanism. But resurrecting a dormant account that hasn’t been used since January just to support an igbophobic post raises a red flag about the character and intention of the supposed individual. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by superlightning: 7:29pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
You sound smart. If you love these i.diats you call your people, be advises to call them to order to avoid a repeat of 1966. If this mindset is what Nnamdi Kanu's crew have, then you better hurry and pass the memo on to them. For the sake of the many innocent souls who will be affected by such juvenile incitements. This was the exact same calm mien that Okpanam officer exhibited when he issued exit tickets to leaders of other regions and even had the guts to defend his foolishness. Your time starts now, hurry and tell those IPOB irritants. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) You seem to be having fun here aren't you? Hmmmmm..... |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 7:32pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
ghostfacekillar: Bede2u. Afuru m na Ara na agba gi.. U should Better stop that nonsense ideology of urs... Let us focus on something tangible and stop this ur futile claim of other people's land Nnaa, orube nke iko onwe Anyi onu. Ya bu Amadi ana akpo Bede2u but Ezigbote nwa-amadi Igbo, oganihu Ndi Igbo na echu ura. Ama m ya nke oma na facebook. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) Ka Anyi nwelu ofu obi na eso onwe Anyi. Anyi ncha cholu oganiru ndi Igbo. Ife di iche bu na anyi enwebeghi nkwekotarika otu kachasi mma, anyi ga eji nwe bunie Alaigbo Elu. Bede2u. Biko gbaa mbo hu na Ijiro iwe we zaghachi Mazi ghostfacekillar, site na iko ya onu. Malu amalu na iwe Nwanne anaghi eru n'okpukpu. Udo 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by Obi1kenobi(m): 7:32pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Well, why did the British have to exile Oba Ovonramwen, Jaja and Nana before they took control of the Lower Niger? They introduced Xtianity to Nigeria remember? What happened to thou shall not kill or covet your neighbours goods? Why did they have to fight so many battles and destroy so many thriving kingdoms that never invited them in the first place? If you were so peaceful and good, and hence excellent candidates for leadership and political alliances, why did the British not hand over political power to you instead of the North?
The Hausas and Fulanis had a civilized, literate and exposed empire that was already in contact with the developed world. They were trading and communicating with all the empires in North Africa. They had a formal court system with magistrates, prisons, a ranking police force, a ranking army (I know you won't understand this one), organized religious institutions, schools of higher learning, a graded tax system and tax collection bureaucracy, add to that a working civil service system AND CITIES! Did I mention currencies, treasuries and a highly organized political system to run it all? All these before the Europeans barged in.
Sure they were ruthless and essentially a slave dealing empire, but the Europeans held no surprises for them.
You lack a historical background on conquest and rulership by military domination if you're sincerely asking those questions.
Don't kid yourself with your condescending tripe (for someone who speaks about "diplomacy" a lot, you're one very obnoxious brat). I've read Northern history literally since my primary school English comprehension textbooks with tales of many figures from Usman Dan Fodio to Idris Alooma. None of what you stated had anything to do with what I asked. You were speaking about the Fulani socio-political dominance in the North (no one disputes that), and referred to their diplomatic skill and talked about what they had to offer the North. I'm just wondering since the political contraption called Nigeria was created, how the Fulanis have exhibited these traits you speak off. What have they offered the North? How have they exhibited this diplomatic skill you speak of that Igbos have not to their neighbors? The British handed no power to us because we never held any such power in the first place and had no structures to impose conformity on others. Neither did we have such an inclination in our way of life. Ours was a cluster of several clans and tribes, many organized at little more than Hamlet level. The North offered a much easier administrated vassal state to the colonialists. But again, this has nothing to do with what I was asking, You mythologized Fulani political skill, talking about their diplomacy and all that. How does it make sense that the biggest common denominator in inter-ethnic blood feuds in Nigeria are Fulanis whose entire Nigerian history is one of bloody conquests and subjugation of others, yet you speak about their diplomacy? How is it that the North, if considered alone as an independent territory, has similar HDI standards as South Sudan or Somalia, yet you speak about what Fulanis have to "offer" their subjects. What is this that they have to offer? 4 Likes |
Re: . by Purehuman(m): 7:38pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
luvmijeje: I have read the last five or six pages of this thread and it confirms my issues with the Igbos. Hatred.
Even if the PDP picked an Igbo for a vice-president, every other region will all afraid of you. Funnily enough when it comes to violence, the Northerners have prove to be more violent that you all. Una issue is your mouth and pride. Politics required foresight and the Igbos lack it.
Forget the Vice-president because your hatred spare headed by Kanu is still recent in the heart of other Nigerians. Focus on the next four years when both parties will present a southern candidates if the PDP loses. In the mean time, reduce your hatred.
Why am I doing all this? I have a friend who's father is Igbo and who's mother is Yoruba. He will be president in the next four years. But how can he be President when his kinsmen are playing kindergarten politics. Stop hating other tribes publicly. Stop poisoning your people with hatred. Where did we preach hate? You should kindly spell it out. |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 7:46pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
pazienza:
Nnaa, orube nke iko onwe Anyi onu. Ya bu Amadi ana akpo Bede2u but Ezigbote nwa-amadi Igbo, oganihu Ndi Igbo na echu ura. Ama m ya nke oma na facebook. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png)
Ka Anyi nwelu ofu obi na eso onwe Anyi. Anyi ncha cholu oganiru ndi Igbo. Ife di iche bu na anyi enwebeghi nkwekotarika otu kachasi mma, anyi ga eji nwe bunie Alaigbo Elu.
Bede2u. Biko gbaa mbo hu na Ijiro iwe we zaghachi Mazi ghostfacekillar, site na iko ya onu. Malu amalu na iwe Nwanne anaghi eru n'okpukpu.
Udo thanks boss. I don't knw y he is insisting on taking what is not his..... Let us find way to unite the pro igbo one and dump the phobic one and build it in a way that it will be the envy of the world than wasting time planning to take what is not his...... 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by Xander85: 7:46pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Nope you won't be reported. You have hard lessons to learn and I'm here to help with that. Your juvenile rants are just empty air devoid of reasoning. I counsel you to sit back and reflect on all I wrote, if you can. That is if you can keep your emotions in check. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I seem to have missed the part where you said what your ethnicity is! Could you remind us again? Just so we can place your comments in their proper perspective. |
Re: . by Nobody: 7:47pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Sooo why were those minorities not sympathetic to the Igbo cause after the war? Going by your "facts" above, they should have remembered what benefits they gained from the Igbos and helped them recover right?
Let me give you a tidbit of history. Do you have any idea the amount of carnage the Fulanis wrought in Hausa land? Did you know Adamawa state of today was made up of lands forcefully taken from natives by mere contingent of Fulani invaders? Did you know Adamawa was even cut into two with one half going to Cameron and another going to Nigeria? Did you know none of the Emirates across the length and breadth of the north has ever been ruled by the actual natives of those lands but only Fulanis? Why have these natives never risen up in revolt against the very harsh and firm rule of the Fulanis? Why are they still loyal to the Caliphate despite being ruled by an invader minority?
I will give you 5 reasons, ability to apply the right amount of diplomacy, ability to appeal to religious and cultural emotions ability to acquire and wield military force, ability to play state politics, political and economic benefits
Sadly these concepts are alien to silly id.iats like you. You're making yourself out to be exactly what other ethnic groups think you are, a greedy landgrabber.
What exactly are you offering to them for allowing you carve them up as you wish? What do they stand to gain by going with you and your wonderful plans? Why did Balewa work for his Fulani lords despite the status of his people as slaves to the Bauchi emirate? The Fulanis had something to offer, on a large scale.
You idi.ats on the other hand just about have nothing to offer yourselves, talk less of having remainders to offer a people who would suspect a gift from you without any ulterior motives.
Now what response do you expect when your motive is clearly sinister and devious? Was this what Nnamdi Kanu had cooking? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) I owe you a car for this your comment. Where have people like you been all these while? |
Re: . by superlightning: 7:50pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
Sooo why were those minorities not sympathetic to the Igbo cause after the war? Going by your "facts" above, they should have remembered what benefits they gained from the Igbos and helped them recover right?
Let me give you a tidbit of history. Do you have any idea the amount of carnage the Fulanis wrought in Hausa land? Did you know Adamawa state of today was made up of lands forcefully taken from natives by mere contingent of Fulani invaders? Did you know Adamawa was even cut into two with one half going to Cameron and another going to Nigeria? Did you know none of the Emirates across the length and breadth of the north has ever been ruled by the actual natives of those lands but only Fulanis? Why have these natives never risen up in revolt against the very harsh and firm rule of the Fulanis? Why are they still loyal to the Caliphate despite being ruled by an invader minority?
I will give you 5 reasons, ability to apply the right amount of diplomacy, ability to appeal to religious and cultural emotions ability to acquire and wield military force, ability to play state politics, political and economic benefits
Sadly these concepts are alien to silly id.iats like you. You're making yourself out to be exactly what other ethnic groups think you are, a greedy landgrabber.
What exactly are you offering to them for allowing you carve them up as you wish? What do they stand to gain by going with you and your wonderful plans? Why did Balewa work for his Fulani lords despite the status of his people as slaves to the Bauchi emirate? The Fulanis had something to offer, on a large scale.
You idi.ats on the other hand just about have nothing to offer yourselves, talk less of having remainders to offer a people who would suspect a gift from you without any ulterior motives.
Now what response do you expect when your motive is clearly sinister and devious? Was this what Nnamdi Kanu had cooking? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) So we should take a cue from the "diplomatic" losers who have been beaten to submission by the fulanis right? Sorry, thats not diplomacy, that's accepting defeat. Igboland regardless of political differences, can and will NEVER be successfully balkanized. If its about ikwerreland, the matter has long been addressed. ACCEPT THOSE WHO ACCEPT YOU, REJECT THOSE WHO REJECT YOU. The individualistic nature of the Igbo coupled with our decentralized political system was the fuel manipulated by agents of division to poison Igbo border communities like ika and ikwerre. Let them be. But we only chose to accept those among them that accepts us. We are not more Igbo than them. If you understand Igbo philosophy you won't challenge this, but obviously you don't. I however, don't believe in HATING as some monikers here may do. If you are against hating on others, then i am with you 100%, as in 100% If Onitsha should decide that they are no longer Igbo tommorow, will other anambrarians stop seeing Onitsha as igboland? After all, Onitsha people call other Igbo "ONYE IGBO". So I agree with you if you reject hating on other igbo territories suffering from identity crisis. 3 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 7:54pm On Oct 09, 2018 |
PabloAfricanus:
You're smart. Your problem is one of political consciousness and leadership, not necessarily all these emotional appeals to reason. A politically conscious people will gauge the temperature of the other party they're dealing with before acting or making pronouncements. A quality that is lacking among you lots.
I always wondered why there was so much animosity to anything Igbo among their neighbors. I was taken aback by the attitude of not even these Ikwerres to the Igbo thing, but specifically Onitsha and Aniomas in general. You guys have bigger fish to fry with Onitsha in your very midst as they hold nothing but fresh disdain for Igbos and exhibit outright hostility to anything Igbo.
I was like, to non Igbos, Onitsha people are probably stereotypical Igbos and Onitsha is the first Igbo city that comes to mind. Why are they hell bent on emphasising a Bini connection that accounts for less than 2% of everything that is Onitsha identity? You know despite their historical claims to Bini whatever, despite confusing Bini cultural influence with Bini origin and never being able to account for the language thing? It was pure comedy watching grown men and women call a people whom they practically share 99% of everything with, "nwa onye Igbo". I thought maybe hinterland Igbos must have been kicking their behinds big time in the past, only to be told they forbade marriage in the past with hinterland Igbos. So why the hilarious attempt to distance themselves from anything Igbo? Maybe I get it now. A lack of social and political etiquette that mars even a strong culture like yours. may God bless you for this observation. You are too wonderful. Some people here are just blind to reality that's all. |