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Re: . by NaijirianKing: 12:14am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Hadiza Bala-Usman, has directed Eastern ports to be dredged. 6 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: . by NaijirianKing: 12:18am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Interesting. 2 Likes
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Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:18am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU: They are not exactly same as ChinenyeN. Ngwa has no other non Igbo group it's affiliated to. So when ChinenyeN go overboard with his Ngwa nationalism, I don't feel threatened. The Igalas in Anambra are affiliated to Igalas in Kogi. When they go about the Omanbala nationalism, it is often accompanied with need to affiliate that part of Igboland more with Igala than with the rest of Igboland, since nature has no room for vacuum. The Edos in Ika do same. Immediately they go promoting the Ika nationality, they create a vacuum that they immediately fill up with Bini, cutting Ndiigbo off totally. Ikwerres, Etches and Ogbas do same. It's same mechanism of action at work. They are like mutated cells in Igbo system, since they have refused to assimilate as Igbo, and if not kept in check, will eventually end up wrecking any part of Igbo land they are allowed to take hold of. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by hammerU: 12:20am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: ABIA, WHERE CHINENYE HAILS FROM IN PLACES LIKE AROCHUKWU, DEY ARE MIXED WITH IBIBIO. WE WILL KEEP HAVING THIS IDENTITY CRISIS IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION BECOS OF THE RICHNESS OF CULTURE AND DIVERSITY OF ETHNICITY PRESENT THERE. WATEVA, BUILDING IGBO AND MAKING IT A GREAT NATION IS PARAMOUNT. |
Re: . by hammerU: 12:22am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: IF U GO TO MALABO IN BIOKO ISLAND, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, U WILL FIND IGBO ARE MIXED WITH FANG AND OTHER TRIBE ON THE ISLAND. THIS IS NORMAL, HUMAN RACE HAVE ALWAYS MIXED UP AND EXPANDED. WE ARE SEATING IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THEM HERE IN NIGERIA, AT THEIR CORE. THEY ARE AT THE PERIPHERAL. 2 Likes
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Re: . by hammerU: 12:39am On Jan 28, 2020 |
THIS MAP IS NOT COMPLETE AS IGBOID GROUPS ARE NOT SHOWN. IGBO AREA IN BENUE AND CROSSRIVER AND BAYELSA AND EDO ARE NOT SHOWN ALSO. LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO REBUILD IGBO LAND AND START ENJOYING THE IGBO COUNTRY. 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:49am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU: Ngwa is not same as Arochukwu. 3 Likes |
Re: . by horsepower102: 1:35am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: Exactly my suspicion!! |
Re: . by horsepower102: 1:42am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: I have long suspected this igala thing for the longest but didn’t want to start any unproductive arguments. Igala of Anambra like anambra a lot. They like it more than their own people in Kogi state but they are worried that igbo unity will take away their beloved state. 1 Like |
Re: . by horsepower102: 1:52am On Jan 28, 2020 |
NaijirianKing: Gbam!!! 3 Likes |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 3:02am On Jan 28, 2020 |
NaijirianKing: I am really wondering just how much you think you know about the Inquisition. You continue to reference Spain and racism, and it is making me inclined to believe that you have conflated the two. The Inquisition began long before it diffused to Spain. Likewise, Spain's codification of legal racism began after the Inquisition. As a matter of fact, it is tied towards Span's antisemitism. The Inquisition, which started in France was strictly about shutting down any sort of religious blasphemy. Spain was undergoing its own internal issues by the time the Inquisition diffused into the country. Native Spaniards had generally been xenophobic, and when the Inquisition came to Spain, it gave them a reason to really show their hate to non-Spaniards. In particular, they showed their hate to Jews. The Spanish Inquisition was about forcing mass conversion. When that happened and when the converts proved to be more successful in Spain, the xenophobia overflowed. Spain is one of the earliest examples of codifying racism into law, but it was antisemitism. The Jews who converted to Christianity in Spain became more successful that the Spaniards, and they hated the Jews for it. That codification expanded to add other races as Spain's xenophobia grew. You are conflating Spain's effect on the modern world with the Inquisitions. Yes, Spain left a lasting legacy of racism, but that is Spain's doing; not the Inquisition. Either way, the fact that you are drawing upon both Spain racist history and the Inquisition (even if you are conflating the two), give me severe pause. You are essentially looking up to racism, xenophobia and terrorism in order to justify this "code" that you want Igbo people to follow. Our current context and Spain's historical contexts aren't even the same or similar enough to warrant that; not to talk of the fact that there is no goodness in such an approach. It only breeds hate. I feel that you, and many other "Proudly Igbo" people are really doing yourselves and the rest of Igbo a great disservice when you focus on things like this as opposed to targeting the needs of the people as the first, true order of business. Personally, I do not want to get too sidetracked discussing white history. The deeper we go into such a subject, the less we can derive anything meaningful from it that will address our current context appropriately. 1 Like |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 3:08am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Pazienza, Ngwa's affiliation/connection with Ijaw, Annang and Ibibio can be more easily verified and corroborated than Ikwerre's connection with Bini. Abeg. But that doesn't matter. Whatever the case, it's telling that you explain it as feeling "threatened". You're essentially treating your "Igbo Unity" like glass... Glass always breaks. 1 Like |
Re: . by Nobody: 6:39am On Jan 28, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: Case closed |
Re: . by Nobody: 6:42am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU: Obiano and ABS won't agree with you. |
Re: . by Nobody: 6:42am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: Igala bla bla bla bla Stop sounding like a wounded sheep. 1 Like |
Re: . by hammerU: 8:43am On Jan 28, 2020 |
THE ONLY PLACE IGBO SHOULD BE FOUND OUTSIDE IGBO LAND IS LAGOS CITY, ABUJA CITY AND MAYBE KANO. OTHERWISE, WE SHOULD BE IN CITIES IN IGBOLAND AND SURROUNDING AREAS. |
Re: . by hammerU: 8:44am On Jan 28, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM THAT U RE FROM A BORDER AREA. |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:56am On Jan 28, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: Please there is no affiliation between the Ijaw and Ngwa. Unless you are talking about the slave trade, in which case Ngwa is not peculiar in this situation. Ijaws however have an Affiliation with Ndokis as both Co founded communities considered Ijaw today like Bonny, Opobo etc, and share boundaries via the Imo River. Ikwerre affiliation with Bini is more of a concocted thing, you will notice I added Ikwerre, Ogba, Etche as an afterthought in the Edo affiliation thing. Their non Igboness is built around a Bini falsehood. But doesn't matter what we think about it, they still believe their own lies nevertheless. In Psychiatry, it's called Pseudologia Fantastica, a condition where one has held to a lie they created so long that they started honestly believing the lie to be the truth. Unity is a fragile thing . It must never be taken for granted. It must be worked on and protected every second. Unity is strength and any group or persons that would want to render a group and individuals within the group vulnerable to discrimination and injustice will first strike at their unity. Achebe even put this together in that his famous things fall apart quote. "How do you think we can fight when our own brothers have turned against us? The white man is very clever. He came quietly and peaceably with his religion. We were amused at his foolishness and allowed him to stay. Now he has won our brothers, and our clan can no longer act like one. He has put a knife on the things that held us together and we have fallen apart" ~TFA The easiest way to defeat a group is to strike at the core of the very thing that hold them together, and then slowly pick them apart one after the other, once the sheep start separating from the herd. As long as enemies of Ndiigbo work around the clock targeting the Igbo Union, I will also do the same neutralizing them. Yes, I feel threatened by attempt to divide the Igbo Union, because I know I am more protected as an Igbo in Nigeria, by a bigger and stronger Igbo nation speaking with one voice than by an Igbo in identity crisis hopelessly tied by sentiments at the borders to neighbors who are still eyeing parts of our lands to claim, should affliction arise for a second time. 9 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 8:59am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Osagyefo98: ABS broadcasts in Igbo Izugbe and In Igala. The two are immiscible. |
Re: . by Nobody: 9:15am On Jan 28, 2020 |
pazienza: I think you might be high on something or slept on the wrong side to utter this gibberish this early morning.. |
Re: . by reality1010: 9:23am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU:You r right my brother but that will come later. Once we v been able to establish a nation, igbos will reduce their habitation in remote areas in the world. They will remain in big cities and establish whatever they want. If they happen to go into remote areas, it means what is taking them there is big time. Waiting for igbo nation is a process, however we need to develop our communities. I grew up to discover that igbos v always done things on community basis Community secondary school, Community square, Community primary school, Community land, Community security, Community service. It was through this means igbo and igbo land got developed. Also our governors should be opened to innovations. As one of the most traveled tribes in the world, we should bring home the experience we got outside. Our governors should collaborate on infrastructure. Are you saying no igbo student can build a CCTV camera that will be mounted high to oversee a large area? Are you saying we cannot build a satellite base? Igbos are extremely gifted by God Almighty to do anything. Let pray sense for our governors they owe the key for what we want. Igbo amaka! Igbos r spirit. 2 Likes |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:06am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Osagyefo98: ![]() I will retract the post. I realize it might be defamatory, I was out of line there. My sincere apologies to our Governor. Gbaghalum. 1 Like |
Re: . by mr11(m): 10:26am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU:where is Ndokwaland on this map? |
Re: . by NaijirianKing: 10:42am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Sure?
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Re: . by Nobody: 11:00am On Jan 28, 2020 |
hammerU:The two Niger Bridges has reduced the potential size of ships that will berth at Onitsha port. It's unwise to hinge the industrial effort of the SE to just a small river port that may become costly to import goods as well as provide bonded warehouse for containers due to the land space. Even if we're going to demolish houses to create space for the project, we'll talking about billions of naira's in compensation. If such funds is used for an alternative project such the Oguta port or the Azumini deep sea, it would be beneficial in the long run? There is need for the SE to boast Oguta to a world class sea port. The area have got large space to contain a world class project and is just a few kilometres to Onitsha. Even the Azumini river can be considered and dredged by the government as another viable option for the SE. 3 Likes |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 11:04am On Jan 28, 2020 |
NaijirianKing: Look, NaijirianKing, I understand your explanation about a code. However, drawing from the racist and xenophobic history of Spain is a categorically bad example to use in explaining what you want. If you had used a different example, such as West Mercia and West Saxons developing their code of conduct and merging to defend themselves from the Viking invasion, then that would have made a bit more sense. The example still does not mirror the Igbo context enough, but at the very least, you don’t go around pointing to an example that in fact makes you the aggressor. Better yet, if you had simply not drawn from those examples and kept your main premise clear of it, I would have understood and agreed almost 100%. Your main premise is having an agenda or code that unifies a people. That is understood clear as day without any need for buttressing examples. I would still fundamentally disagree with the implementation and timing. In other words, I believe your code only makes sense when you actually take care of the people and not for the people to adopt the code before they are taken care of. But I would not disagree with the fundamental premise of it. We can finally say that I do understand what you are explaining, but your example really tainted it all in my eyes. You pulled from an aggressive, xenophobic, racist and terrorist context and put “Igbo” in place of “Spain”. It does not look good at all at all. I had no choice but to interpret it as your wanting to emulate the Inquisition in today’s Igbo context, and I fundamentally at the core do not agree with that. However, the point you are making, if one removes your Spain and Inquisition references, is definitely agreeable. 1 Like |
Re: . by BeijinDossier: 11:05am On Jan 28, 2020 |
[s] UdechiHD:[/s] All you do is spew rubbish night and day. Are you cursed that you have nothing reasonable to post all the time. Oya gather your umunna and go boast oguta village PORT. Do you know about barges? Barges takes the same thing ships can carry. Illiterate go and get informed 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 28, 2020 |
BeijinDossier:I only discuss economic issues with Igbos. You can pass now. |
Re: . by NaijirianKing: 11:09am On Jan 28, 2020 |
Interesting. |
Re: . by BeijinDossier: 11:09am On Jan 28, 2020 |
These are barges, they are even more modern ways of moving goods faster on water. 7 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: . by BeijinDossier: 11:10am On Jan 28, 2020 |
[s] UdechiHD:[/s] Mechionu you don't know anything. You are just a hateful bigot but I will be here to check your nuisance. Are you cursed ? What made you think Onitsha port cannot accept as much cargo as even Lagos? Stop envying Anambra state. We are already ahead of you. |
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