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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:12am On Mar 27, 2022
AmazonTopaz:

I hold the same argument too before somebody will want to roll back my rights as a woman because they will say that we have deviated from God's given mandate blah, blah, blah and take us back to the pre-protofeminist era when it comes to my personal space I am a bit conservative(not too much) but I have a liberal world view of things and nobody's lifestyle is hurting me so why should I force my view on others?

you are in a locker room changing, Naked, you expect that everyone that comes in is a woman then you saw what appears to be a penis walking towards you as you are naked. how will you react? they have forced their lifestyle over you because you must accept it... your kids(female) will see the penis of a stranger claiming to be a woman.

they pass laws like this does not mean it is good. people complaining does not mean they are discriminating. ibime should understand that
give Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser is one reason why people just don't mind but comply.

a big dude who lived as a man for 50 years and fathered 3 children is saying he is a mother


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf-ZfgMeYy8

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:19am On Mar 27, 2022
Ibime:


Law and morality have never been the same thing since the seperation of church and state, and that's where we differ. You want to codify moral ethics, I'm happy keeping them seperate. Some other persons perception of morality could land me in jail if that was not the case, for example if I drink alcohol in Saudi Arabia.

of course, law and morality are not the same things which is the point I am making that because a law is passed it does not mean it is a good law.
this has nothing to do with religion so the separate church and state is irrelevant. I am talking about science. they are banning people are punishing them for stating a biological fact. i expect you to see what I am talking about but you refused.

of course, people have different morality... But there is objective morality which means morality is universal else you don't have the right to say the nazis are bad... for them nazism is good so who are you to tell them otherwise?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:21pm On Mar 27, 2022
basilico:


See Ben, I dont how some people are wired. Their first instinct is to dismiss any assertion you make,

Especially those made by you.

Lack of trust is why. I don't trust Q.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:32pm On Mar 27, 2022
Livelystone01:

I like to ask. Do you think Biden knows about the dealings of Hunter, both his business dealings in Ukraine and China, including his laptop that's being talked about in the media?

First, I don't do Hunter. He's not on any ballot that interests me.

Yes, Biden will know whatever Hunter was doing in Ukraine and China. If Hunter had not told him, he should have asked, and Secret Service or what it's called there, would have told him as part of securing a former VP or to blackmail him. In fact, Hunter would have been tapped for the job because of his father's political position, they probably thought he could Ginni their Thomas, but see how absolutely no one cares but Q.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 3:50pm On Mar 27, 2022
Banchotmods:

kikiki I ah ass kisser ye

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:52pm On Mar 27, 2022

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 11:04pm On Mar 27, 2022
budaatum:


First, I don't do Hunter. He's not on any ballot that interests me.


see how absolutely no one cares but Q.




Actually, you care but you would develop selective amnesia when it suits you.

Last year, when the proof of Hunter Biden's dirty Ukraine dealings weren't widely believed, you mocked those who believe it and asked them to keep checking Hunter's laptop.

Now that it's been proven, you suddenly don't care.
This was December 2020 when you kept kicking against the Hunter Biden allegations.
budaatum:

Where have you been? Lol. They dropped Pizza long time ago, or at least it lost it's importance so they moved on albeit to Hunter's emails that turned out to be invisible. They moved on to Sidney Powell's Kraken, though that too went the way of the dodo so they're now on to Pence singlehandedly appointing their maga president trump while the sane amongst us just count days till 20 January 2021.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:24am On Mar 28, 2022
DissTroy:


Actually, you care but you would develop selective amnesia when it suits you.

Last year, when the proof of Hunter Biden's dirty Ukraine dealings weren't widely believed, you mocked those who believe it and asked them to keep checking Hunter's laptop.

Now that it's been proven, you suddenly don't care.
This was December 2020 when you kept kicking against the Hunter Biden allegations.

You keep believing I care about Hunter, diss

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:23am On Mar 28, 2022
budaatum:


You keep believing I care about Hunter, diss

Diss is saying you a hypocrite.
Actually you are too dumb to know that

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:58am On Mar 28, 2022
Now Macron is warning Biden against words used on Russia

White house now scrambling to explain what Biden meant. Lol

https://www.nairaland.com/7050391/macron-warns-against-inflammatory-words

He continued: “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power.”

The president’s comments were swiftly walked back by both the White House and the secretary of state, Antony Blinken, who insisted the US did not have “a strategy of regime change in Russia – or anywhere else”.

Macron said on Sunday that he would not have used Biden’s words, adding that he saw his task as “achieving first a ceasefire and then the total withdrawal of [Russian] troops by diplomatic means”.

He told broadcaster France 3: “If we want to do that, we can’t escalate in either words or actions.”

Minutes after Biden spoke, the White House scrabbled to clarify his meaning, saying the president “was not discussing Putin’s power in Russia, or regime change”. According to one official, the speech was not a call to topple the Russian president, but rather an attempt to prepare the world’s democracies for an extended conflict

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:11am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


Shut your ignorant trap. There is no left media in America. There is centrist media and extreme right media. America is by definition a centrist-to-right country. You are so far right, you wouldn't be able to tell. Left media will endorse Communism, Sanders, AOC for President over Biden etc, speak up for Venezuela, Cuba etc. America has no mainstream left.

MSNBC is far left wing media and the exact opposite of OANN on the far right

CNN is center left. Fox is center right

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Banchotmods: 6:57am On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:


MSNBC is far left wing media and the exact opposite of OANN on the far right

CNN is center left. Fox is center right

Benaldino isa taught Ibime ah serious lesson ah ye grin

DissTroy tha Ibime ina left, ina right but ah donkey isa not have tha sense so isa not like ah lesson ye.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 7:41am On Mar 28, 2022
budaatum:


You keep believing I care about Hunter, diss

You care about Hunter Biden. But you are a hypocrite and pathological liar.

You claim your reason for not caring is because Hunter Biden is not the POTUS or elected official so what he does (even in government-backed capacity) doesn't matter to you.

Here you are in May 2021 going on about Donald Trump Jnr, Donald Trump's son, calling him corrupt and a criminal and asking for his head. Even though:

1. DT Jnr isn't an elected official;
2. His father isn't the POTUS any longer;


budaatum:
More coal in trump fire as investigators go after Con Jr!

For months, some of Donald Trump’s top advisers have assured him that he has virtually nothing to fear from the Manhattan district attorney’s tax investigation, which they view as merely “fishing” for information. But investigators with the D.A.'s office have been expanding their criminal probe into Trump’s business empire, asking questions and grilling witnesses—as recently as in the past few days—not only about Trump but particularly about his eldest son, Don Jr.,

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-jr-is-being-examined-by-new-york-prosecutors-in-trump-business-probe


You are the worst liar to visit this thread, and your history of denying your own statements and having a double mouth means you can always be boxed into a corner with your very own words.

I knew you would state you don't care so I boxed you to further show these people how much of a hypocrite and doublespeak you are. You don't care about what the sons of presidents do only when it suits your agenda.

Today's Monday. Make sure you submit your mental evaluation reports before 23:00 GMT.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 7:52am On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:


MSNBC is far left wing media and the exact opposite of OANN on the far right

CNN is center left. Fox is center right

You are so far gone.

FOX is far more to the right than MSNBC is to the left

FOX is so far right, it was chased from the UK

He say na centre-right. Trash.

I'm not talking about whether they support Dems or GOP here but where they sit on the scale between Socialism to the left and Fascism to the right.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:42am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


You are so far gone.

FOX is far more to the right than MSNBC is to the left

FOX is so far right, it was chased from the UK

He say na centre-right. Trash.

I'm not talking about whether they support Dems or GOP here but where they sit on the scale between Socialism to the left and Fascism to the right.


Ibime, go an get your head checked. You are far gone
Spewing lies that fox news was chased out of the UK.
You don't know anything about the media in the US and the UK, you claimed media should lie and spread propaganda if it benefits the country... Just like Hitler and sterling did.

Your head no correct

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 9:11am On Mar 28, 2022
benalvino3:


Ibime, go an get your head checked. You are far gone
Spewing lies that fox news was chased out of the UK.
You don't know anything about the media in the US and the UK, you claimed media should lie and spread propaganda if it benefits the country... Just like Hitler and sterling did.

Your head no correct

Stay out of what you don't understand. I am having conversation with someone else, a reasonable person.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:57am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


You are so far gone.

FOX is far more to the right than MSNBC is to the left

FOX is so far right, it was chased from the UK

He say na centre-right. Trash.

I'm not talking about whether they support Dems or GOP here but where they sit on the scale between Socialism to the left and Fascism to the right.


Stay out of what you don't understand

If you understand so much why are you pushing out lies that fox news was chased out of the UK becuase they are so far right? When you go to all those conspiracy nut job website pick nonsense then come here to act like you know too much.

Like I said you are so confident in your ignorance.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:09am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:

Media's role is not to tear down its own Govt,

Except when they are tearing down anyone you don't like which is any government entity or personal from the right.

The media spent the past 4 year tenure of trump tearing down the Government. You were all for it but the hypocrite in you will not hide itself.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:15am On Mar 28, 2022
benalvino3:




If you understand so much why are you pushing out lies that fox news was chased out of the UK becuase they are so far right? When you go to all those conspiracy nut job website pick nonsense then come here to act like you know too much.

Like I said you are so confident in your ignorance.

Rest in Jesus name.

I said they were chased - by the public who were reviled by their coverage and turned their backs on them.

Rest. I am discussing with someone else.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:16am On Mar 28, 2022
benalvino3:


Except when they are tearing down anyone you don't like which is any government entity or personal from the right.

The media spent the past 4 year tenure of trump tearing down the Government. You were all for it but the hypocrite in you will not hide itself.

Trump spent his tenure tearing down Govt and democratic structures, not the other way round

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:22am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


Trump spent his tenure tearing down Govt and democratic structures, not the other way round

NAaa... Before trump became the government they were attacking him. They also choose the side of Iran over US in the killing of Suleman. They drag pence for not showing respect to the sister of Kim Jong UN.

What you are saying does not make sense whatsoever.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:24am On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


Rest in Jesus name.

I said they were chased - by the public who were reviled by their coverage and turned their backs on them.

Rest. I am discussing with someone else.

Chased by who? You?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:06pm On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:


MSNBC is far left wing media and the exact opposite of OANN on the far right

CNN is center left. Fox is center right

Banchotmods:


Benaldino isa taught Ibime ah serious lesson ah ye grin

DissTroy tha Ibime ina left, ina right but ah donkey isa not have tha sense so isa not like ah lesson ye.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:27pm On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


You are so far gone.

FOX is far more to the right than MSNBC is to the left

FOX is so far right, it was chased from the UK

He say na centre-right. Trash.

I'm not talking about whether they support Dems or GOP here but where they sit on the scale between Socialism to the left and Fascism to the right.


This is rubbish
Socialism is to capitalism what fascism is to anarchism

UK and Europe are all left. That's why CNN looks center to you

FOX is as right as CNN is left. MSNBC is as left as OANN is right

MSNBC regularly rails against free market and promote socialist talking points on their network regularly

Many of Rachel Maddows talking points are straight out of AOC book
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:32pm On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:


This is rubbish
Socialism is to capitalism what fascism is to anarchism

UK and Europe are all left. That's why CNN looks center to you

Ah ridikulous statements

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by gambojimeta: 12:44pm On Mar 28, 2022

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:24pm On Mar 28, 2022
basilico:


Diss is saying you a hypocrite.
Actually you are too dumb to know that

And when did diss' or your opinion start to matter to buda?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 2:24pm On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:


This is rubbish
Socialism is to capitalism what fascism is to anarchism

UK and Europe are all left. That's why CNN looks center to you

FOX is as right as CNN is left. MSNBC is as left as OANN is right

MSNBC regularly rails against free market and promote socialist talking points on their network regularly

Many of Rachel Maddows talking points are straight out of AOC book

If Europe is left, what is Venezuela and Cuba?

AOC is no more left than UK Labour party or Scottish National party, and MSNBC are right of her.

Tommy Robinson, a far right pariah in UK gets prime time on Fox News and you say it's centre-right.

I will repeat, America is centre-to-right country. There is no mainstream left in America.

If MSNBC was as left as you make out, they will support Bernie Sanders candidacy. I stand to be corrected.

Fox is centre-right in the morning and afternoon. By evening, they are far-right, in comparison to a global perspective.

MSNBC is centrist in the morning and afternoon, and reflect the Swedish political landscape at primetime.

OANN is batshit crazy and bears no comparison with MSNBC. Fox is more extreme than MSNBC on the spectrum.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 2:33pm On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


If Europe is left, what is Venezuela and Cuba?

AOC is no more left than UK Labour party or Scottish National party, and MSNBC are right of her.

Tommy Robinson, a far right pariah in UK gets prime time on Fox News and you say it's centre-right.

I will repeat, America is centre-to-right country. There is no mainstream left in America.

If MSNBC was as left as you make out, they will support Bernie Sanders candidacy. I stand to be corrected.

Fox is centre-right in the morning and afternoon. By evening, they are far-right, in comparison to a global perspective.

MSNBC is centrist in the morning and afternoon, and reflect the Swedish political landscape at primetime.

OANN is batshit crazy and bears no comparison with MSNBC. Fox is more extreme than MSNBC on the spectrum.


The Perfect analysis!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On Mar 28, 2022
Ibime:


If Europe is left, what is Venezuela and Cuba?

AOC is no more left than UK Labour party or Scottish National party, and MSNBC are right of her.

Tommy Robinson, a far right pariah in UK gets prime time on Fox News and you say it's centre-right.

I will repeat, America is centre-to-right country. There is no mainstream left in America.

If MSNBC was as left as you make out, they will support Bernie Sanders candidacy. I stand to be corrected.

Fox is centre-right in the morning and afternoon. By evening, they are far-right, in comparison to a global perspective.

MSNBC is centrist in the morning and afternoon, and reflect the Swedish political landscape at primetime.

OANN is batshit crazy and bears no comparison with MSNBC. Fox is more extreme than MSNBC on the spectrum.

Is there a country that is the economic opposite of Cuba and Venezuela?

No cable news agency endorse any candidate in primary, Once they win the primary they support them fully.
A cable TV channel will not support a candidate until he becomes the nominee, Different anchors will have their preference.
Many Fox anchors did not fully support Trump until he became the nominee. Most of the news Anchors were supporting Bush until he fizzled out then some went to Cruz, Many even criticized Trump for not being a conservative the called him a New York liberal. He doesn't really support major conservatives talking points on Religion, Abortion, Gay rights. It was until he got the nominee that they coalesced behind him


Europe is left leaning and they boldly support Socialism.

Yes America is a center-right country. CNN is center left on the average, MSNBC is Far left on its average, Fox is Center right on the average and OANN is far right on the average

Listen to Maddow and listen to AOC and see if there is much difference in their beliefs. Bernie Sanders and AOC get primetime on MSNBC regularly

There is nothing centrist about MSNBC anytime of the day, Just like there is nothing centrist about Newsmax and OANN anytime of the day

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:41pm On Mar 28, 2022
The dollar’s role as dominant global reserve currency is at risk if the Fed fails to crack down on inflation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzjBJIRkSg
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 3:36pm On Mar 28, 2022
raumdeuter:

Yes America is a center-right country. CNN is center left on the average, MSNBC is Far left on its average, Fox is Center right on the average and OANN is far right on the average

That's the framework. We are saying the same thing. That's why I didn't want Benalvino chooking his mouth because he would not understand the context from his viewpoint.

But you went too far comparing OANN and MSNBC. To most of the world, MSNBC is left-centre.

I prefer watching ABC news personally if I want to see what's happening in Yankee without much agenda but it's almost impossible not to have agenda in Yankee, since everything is commercialised and polarisation sells, but most of the polarisation occured with the rise of Tea Party politics and reaction to it. Back in the day, I can watch CNN and see them supporting George Bush policies, not now.

I still disagree that Fox is centre-right. Fox has veered fully right with half of America steering hardly right during the Trump era. They have to satisfy their customers. Put it this way, many Fox Contributors are banned from the UK for hate speech. You can't be claiming centrist and be considered too extreme for the UK such that a Conservative UK Govt will stop you from getting visa.

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