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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 8:01am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Democats in 2016: Trump would never concede the Election, He's a tyrant

Democrats in 2020: Under no circumstances should Joe Biden concede the Election - "Hillary Clinton"

Seems to me Dems are planning for Post-Election rigging and already know Biden will lose. grin grin grin


Can you explain why you want Trump to win?

The only reason I could ever vote for Trump is that he would cut my taxes if I were the owner of a mega business.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 8:04am On Sep 04, 2020
Jason Mesich Shot Wife To Death In Bloomington, Then Shot 2 Sisters Who Lived Next Door

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/09/01/charges-jason-mesich-shot-wife-to-death-then-shot-2-sisters-who-lived-next-door-ages-12-and-29/

Jason Michael Mesich, 48, faces three 2nd-degree murder charges for the death of his wife, and for shooting two sisters who are his Bloomington neighbors — including a 12-year-old girl who was shot in the head.

The Hennepin County Attorney’s office says officers were called to a home on the 8300 block of 15th Avenue Sunday at about 11 p.m. on several reports of gunshots being fired and possible victims. They arrived to the sound of more gunshots being fired inside the home.

Officers went to the home’s detached garage and found the body of 47-year-old Angela Lynn Mesich. She had been shot several times in the neck and upper torso.

After a standoff, police entered the home and found Jason Mesich in the basement, where he continued firing a gun, screaming and throwing things. He eventually surrendered to officers. Mesich is estimated to have fired 40 rounds during his standoff with police.

Officers then learned two of Mesich’s next-door neighbors, who are sisters, had been shot. WCCO spoke with the victims’ aunt Monday, who identified them as 12-year-old Makayla and 29-year-old Canisha. Makayla was shot in the head. She is in critical condition as of Tuesday, and her family says she’s heavily sedated. Canisha was shot several times in the legs and left hip, and is in serious condition.

Mesich told investigators that he doesn’t remember much about the shootings, but said it all started because he and his wife had an argument in the garage about the couple’s lack of sex. He said he “probably” went into the home and got a gun. When he returned to the garage, he said his wife tried to hit him, so he punched her in the collarbone with two fists. He then said she told him to shoot her, and that he assumed he did so, and assumed he “emptied” the gun to make sure she was dead.


White man, armed, fired 40 rounds during standoff with police and arrested alive - a good example of 'white priviledge'

What will be the outcome if Jason Mesich is a black man?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:09am On Sep 04, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
Another reason for veterans to trash Trump
Another Lie, another Slander, all Fake news from the Atlantic. Trump Never disparaged Veterans and the Military in d first place. In fact one of Trump's greatest achievement has been his unwavering support for the Military and the Veterans. From the day he took Office everyone saw what he did: the funding, the restructuring of the VA. This is just another Slander by disgruntled fellows. Another desperate way to make Trump look bad.
And if you look deep into the made up story, it's once again an anonymous source grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:27am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Another Lie, another Slander, all Fake news from the Atlantic. Trump Never disparaged Veterans and the Military in d first place. In fact one of Trump's greatest achievement has been his unwavering support for the Military and the Veterans. From the day he took Office everyone saw what he did: the funding, the restructuring of the VA. This is just another Slander by disgruntled fellows. Another desperate way to make Trump look bad.
And if you look deep into the made up story, it's once again an anonymous source grin grin

• says Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers."

• “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers” he said about a U.S. military cemetery

• called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff

• called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII

• “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” Trump said of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

• asked his staff to not include wounded veterans because amputees make him uncomfortable

• “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Trump said to Gen. John Kelly about dead veterans, while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington

• Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29, Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing

• In May '20, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

• The Trump admin seized 5mil masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

• Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew

• After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

• On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

• Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve

• Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11

• Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience

• Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."

• Pardoned multiple war criminals, which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command (May&Nov, 2019)

• Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion

• Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.

• There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported.

• Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

• On 10/7/19, Trump abruptly withdrew from Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.

• sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

• In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.

• In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.

• In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that 3 of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, running the VA, are rampant with meddling. None of them served in the military, have experience in the VA, nor underwent any approval process. Yet they directed operations without any oversight.

• Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they illegally seizing property

• Children of deployed US troops no longer guaranteed citizenship (August 28, 2019)

• On 8/2/19 Trump requisitioned military retirement funds for the border wall

• On 7/31/19 Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who prosecuted war criminals

• denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported 7/17/19)

• made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)

• demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• In June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"

• used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (6/6/19)

• started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midlere) (2019)

• made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (reported 5/13/19)

• deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• On 3/20/19 Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019 Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, which made USCG service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10k pay raise

• banned troops from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

• denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published 1/18/19)

• tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)

• When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's CFPB let him go for $1 (1/26/19)

• called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (1/1/19)

• increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)

• revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). Tried giving a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that wasn't going to work. After giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't

• fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

• tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0 and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain. Other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• sent troops on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018). He stopped using troops as a political prop after the election, but the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act causing the VA to miss benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported 10/7/18)

• doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• "They knew what they signed up for." re: dead troops (10/18/17)

• sent commandos into an ambush w/ lack of intel, and sent contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. He approved the mission bc Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it. 10/4/17

• Doesn't stand during retreat bugle, continues to talk. "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" 10/11/17

• blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

• ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

• deported veterans (2017-present)

• said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• On 10/4/16 Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong

• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

• In Jan 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)

• said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

• said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)

• Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991

• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:27am On Sep 04, 2020
Mainstream Media is so corrupt, they lie and make up stories at every single turn. Same Media that recently lied that Trump had mini strokes whereas he was doing mini Rallies here and there...Now they claim he disparaged Veterans, and the Military, and that's according to the Atlantic magazine. And the libidiots will swallow everything hook, line and sinker. Una no dey tire grin TDS is real Indeed

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:35am On Sep 04, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
Another reason for veterans to trash Trump
Another Fake news from a left-wing rag quoting fake "anonymous" sources.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:36am On Sep 04, 2020
LordReed:


• says Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers."

• “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers” he said about a U.S. military cemetery

• called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff

• called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII

• “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” Trump said of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

• asked his staff to not include wounded veterans because amputees make him uncomfortable

• “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Trump said to Gen. John Kelly about dead veterans, while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington

• Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29, Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing

• In May '20, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

• The Trump admin seized 5mil masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

• Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew

• After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

• On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

• Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve

• Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11

• Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience

• Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."

• Pardoned multiple war criminals, which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command (May&Nov, 2019)

• Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion

• Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.

• There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported.

• Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

• On 10/7/19, Trump abruptly withdrew from Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.

• sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

• In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.

• In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.

• In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that 3 of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, running the VA, are rampant with meddling. None of them served in the military, have experience in the VA, nor underwent any approval process. Yet they directed operations without any oversight.

• Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they illegally seizing property

• Children of deployed US troops no longer guaranteed citizenship (August 28, 2019)

• On 8/2/19 Trump requisitioned military retirement funds for the border wall

• On 7/31/19 Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who prosecuted war criminals

• denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported 7/17/19)

• made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)

• demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• In June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"

• used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (6/6/19)

• started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midlere) (2019)

• made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (reported 5/13/19)

• deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• On 3/20/19 Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019 Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, which made USCG service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10k pay raise

• banned troops from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

• denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published 1/18/19)

• tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)

• When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's CFPB let him go for $1 (1/26/19)

• called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (1/1/19)

• increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)

• revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). Tried giving a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that wasn't going to work. After giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't

• fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

• tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0 and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain. Other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• sent troops on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018). He stopped using troops as a political prop after the election, but the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act causing the VA to miss benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported 10/7/18)

• doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• "They knew what they signed up for." re: dead troops (10/18/17)

• sent commandos into an ambush w/ lack of intel, and sent contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. He approved the mission bc Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it. 10/4/17

• Doesn't stand during retreat bugle, continues to talk. "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" 10/11/17

• blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

• ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

• deported veterans (2017-present)

• said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• On 10/4/16 Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong

• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

• In Jan 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)

• said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

• said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)

• Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991

• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
If there's a major thing u guys are good at from the History of this thread is that you guys are Masters of long articles - but full of Lies. Everyone knew the beef between Trump and McCain, but Trump approved his State Burial. McCain was a War monger and Trump disagreed with him. Support for VA and Military is Trump's greatest strength

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:36am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Mainstream Media is so corrupt, they lie and make up stories at every single turn. Same Media that recently lied that Trump had mini strokes whereas he was doing mini Rallies here and there...Now they claim he disparaged Veterans, and the Military, and that's according to the Atlantic magazine. And the libidiots will swallow everything hook, line and sinker. Una no dey tire grin TDS is real Indeed
They are truly libidiots

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:40am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Trump can never be half the leader Obama was.

Trump is being roasted for speaking ill about wounded soldiers.

What a President grin
Being roasted by stupid liberals and gullible fools. The story is fake news by a left wing rag who couldn't provide any source for his story. Every real person that has come forward to comment on this all say the story is a lie. Libidiots can believe whatever they want to, smart people have long stopped believing the fake news media.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:44am On Sep 04, 2020
LordReed:


• says Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers."

• “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers” he said about a U.S. military cemetery

• called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff

• called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII

• “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” Trump said of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

• asked his staff to not include wounded veterans because amputees make him uncomfortable

• “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” Trump said to Gen. John Kelly about dead veterans, while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington

• Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29, Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing

• In May '20, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

• The Trump admin seized 5mil masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

• Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew

• After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

• On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

• Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve

• Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11

• Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience

• Claimed if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."

• Pardoned multiple war criminals, which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command (May&Nov, 2019)

• Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion

• Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.

• There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported.

• Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

• On 10/7/19, Trump abruptly withdrew from Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.

• sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

• In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.

• In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.

• In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that 3 of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, running the VA, are rampant with meddling. None of them served in the military, have experience in the VA, nor underwent any approval process. Yet they directed operations without any oversight.

• Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they illegally seizing property

• Children of deployed US troops no longer guaranteed citizenship (August 28, 2019)

• On 8/2/19 Trump requisitioned military retirement funds for the border wall

• On 7/31/19 Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who prosecuted war criminals

• denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported 7/17/19)

• made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)

• demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• In June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"

• used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (6/6/19)

• started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midlere) (2019)

• made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

• On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech bc they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (reported 5/13/19)

• deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• On 3/20/19 Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019 Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, which made USCG service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10k pay raise

• banned troops from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

• denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published 1/18/19)

• tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)

• When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's CFPB let him go for $1 (1/26/19)

• called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (1/1/19)

• increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)

• revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). Tried giving a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that wasn't going to work. After giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't

• fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

• tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0 and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

• While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain. Other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• sent troops on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018). He stopped using troops as a political prop after the election, but the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act causing the VA to miss benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported 10/7/18)

• doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• "They knew what they signed up for." re: dead troops (10/18/17)

• sent commandos into an ambush w/ lack of intel, and sent contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. He approved the mission bc Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it. 10/4/17

• Doesn't stand during retreat bugle, continues to talk. "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" 10/11/17

• blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

• ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

• deported veterans (2017-present)

• said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• On 10/4/16 Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong

• Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

• In Jan 2016, Trump sent funds raised from a veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation (the foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)

• said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

• said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)

• Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

• For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances. 1991

• Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
This is a compilation of liberal garbage and outright lies. And what more, it doesn't provide any proof for the latest media fake news being thrown around by left wing media. Trump is well known to back the military and law enforcement.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:47am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Democats in 2016: Trump would never concede the Election, He's a tyrant

Democrats in 2020: Under no circumstances should Joe Biden concede the Election - "Hillary Clinton"

Seems to me Dems are planning for Post-Election rigging and already know Biden will lose. grin grin grin
Liberal hypocrisy is a disease.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:48am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Being roasted by stupid liberals and gullible fools. The story is fake news by a left wing rag who couldn't provide any source for his story. Every real person that has come forward to comment on this all say the story is a lie. Libidiots can believe whatever they want to, smart people have long stopped believing the fake news media.
They are desperate and the MSM spoon-feeds them with all dis crap. Obama that destroyed Lybia - it's there for everyone to see and till date Lybia is still recovering from that horror show. Whereas Trump hasn't started any conventional war or toppled any government - the only President to have done that if you look at the past decades. Trump is good for the world in general.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:50am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Being roasted by stupid liberals and gullible fools. The story is fake news by a left wing rag who couldn't provide any source for his story. Every real person that has come forward to comment on this all say the story is a lie. Libidiots can believe whatever they want to, smart people have long stopped believing the fake news media.
Keep quiet Trumptard.
It is Trumptard that are idiots that believe anything that has to do with lies.
Trump's past tweets insulting MCcain gives credibility to the story but as usual you are blind to see that.
Don't mistake real people for deluded trumptard idiots next time.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:52am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Being roasted by stupid liberals and gullible fools. The story is fake news by a left wing rag who couldn't provide any source for his story. Every real person that has come forward to comment on this all say the story is a lie. Libidiots can believe whatever they want to, smart people have long stopped believing the fake news media.
@ Bolded, Lol, of course the Leftist Twitter mob gives the libidiots a false perception thinking that the whole world exists on Twitter. The libidiots derive pleasure in posting random Tweets and Retweets in a sporadic fashion. Our beloved thread is littered with those trash heaps. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:55am On Sep 04, 2020
Trumptards are in a reality of their own.

Anyway them go dey alright when Trump loses.
Maybe by then their mental madness and deluded brains will be alright

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:56am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

This is a compilation of liberal garbage and outright lies. And what more, it doesn't provide any proof for the latest media fake news being thrown around by left wing media. Trump is well known to back the military and law enforcement.
To think that the far Leftist want to even summon couurage to attack the President on where he's even good at - talking about Military and the VA is beyond words to describe. It's a failed strategy. Just tell them to provide their sources and that will be the end of the story.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:58am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Keep quiet Trumptard.
It is Trumptard that are idiots that believe anything that has to do with lies.
Trump's past tweets insulting MCcain gives credibility to the story but as usual you are blind to see that.
Don't mistake real people for deluded trumptard idiots next time.
Shut up libtard!! Only liberals fools can be stupid enough to believe a story citing anonymous sources when every real human being with a face that were there are saying it's a lie. What else would you call someone who believes a non-existent anonymous source over the testimony of someone who is real and can be seen? FOOLS!! And that's what most liberals are. They are rightly called libidiots because they are the dumbest set of fools you will ever see. And it's very stupid to even say Trump's attack on McCain is proof for this story, those are two totally unrelated stories. McCain was a politician and he was criticized as a political opponent. What will you say about those attacking Gen. Michael Flynn or Dan Crenshaw? Get real proof for your fake news garbage or shut up.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:58am On Sep 04, 2020
grin grin

Trump lies a lot and he said he did not call Mccain a loser grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:01am On Sep 04, 2020
Jeffrey Goldberg and his "four anonymous sources" claim Trump's helicopter flight to the US/French cemetery wasn't cancelled due to weather.

FOIA documents prove this to be false.

Their "sources" are failing basic fact checks - making them essentially worthless. FAKE NEWS

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:03am On Sep 04, 2020
Any news that does not agree with Trump is fake news grin

Lol

We know deluded idiots when we see one and many are Trump supporters.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:04am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Just don't quote me next time.
I hardly argue with Trump idiots like you.
So just stay on your lane and leave me alone.
So shut up we know you are lying and it makes you look stupid.All insults are on you because it is shameful that you don't have brains to reason well
Don't quote me again
I will quote you and set you right if you continue to post stupid garbage. Provide proof or tuck your tails and admit you are propagating fake news

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:07am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

I will quote you and set you right if you continue to post stupid garbage. Provide proof or tuck your tails and admit you propagating fake news
Lol
I don't even waste my time reading your stupid meaningless fake post

I will keep posting what I want because they are true and legit confirmed by reputable sources.
I don't bother arguing facts or evidence with Trump idiots.
So don't bother me.The proofs are there and Trump's lies were exposed under his own tweets if they are lies to you that is your stupid business not mine.I am glad that the majority are not idiotic Trump supporters like you that post lies to promote their gabbage.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:08am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Just don't quote me next time.
I hardly argue with Trump idiots like you.
So just stay on your lane and leave me alone.
So shut up we know you are lying and it makes you look stupid.All insults are on you because it is shameful that you don't have brains to reason well
Don't quote me again
Oh Sons of Anonymous sources, Run back to your basement. The truth is shining, and the Darkness of lies is being dispelled. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:08am On Sep 04, 2020
If you replace "anonymous" with "fake" on that story, that's when it will makes sense. As for now, it makes no sense at all. It's undeniable that Trump loves veterans, it's so obvious that it will only take a libidiot to believe a crap story like this.

Anonymous sources = Fake news

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:10am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Oh Sons of Anonymous sources, Run back to your basement. The truth is shining, and the Darkness of lies is being dispelled. grin
Of course it has the truth keeps catching up with Trump
Trump has been exposed his past tweets and comments has landed him in trouble.
cheesy grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:11am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Any news that does not agree with Trump is fake news grin

Lol

We know deluded idiots when we see one and many are Trump supporters.
Provide your proof and evidence, it's simple. Mind you, your Sabbatical starts November 4th , 2020 grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:12am On Sep 04, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Lol
I don't even waste my time reading your stupid meaningless fake post

I will keep posting what I want because they are true and legit confirmed by reputable sources.
I don't bother arguing facts or evidence with Trump idiots.
So don't bother me.The proofs are there and Trump's lies were exposed under his own tweets if they are lies to you that is your stupid business not mine.I am glad that the majority are not idiotic Trump supporters like you that post lies to promote their gabbage.
What proofs? Can you mention them? Or is it the "anonymous sources"?. Use the brain God gave you and stop being gullible. Majority are actually not idiotic like liberals, it's in the name, libidiots!! And it fits.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:14am On Sep 04, 2020
obixcel:
Provide your proof and evidence, it's simple. Mind you, your Sabbatical starts November 4th , 2020 grin grin
So you are oblivious of the information your brains are irredemable
When Trump loses right.
Don't worry you will be alright by then when Trump is evicted from the white house.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:14am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:
If you replace "anonymous" with "fake" on that story, that's when it will makes sense. As for now, it makes no sense at all. It's undeniable that Trump loves veterans, it's so obvious that it will only take a libidiot to believe a crap story like this.

Anonymous sources = Fake news
Trump loves the Veterans is now like saying Water is wet, even Trump's greatest critics know that from day one, and some one will come and be citing one phony source...I just laugh

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:14am On Sep 04, 2020
There's a reason The Atlantic ran that hit piece on Trump..

That means CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, BBC, Washington Post, New York Times, and even buzzfeed thought it was such bullshit that even they wouldn't publish it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:17am On Sep 04, 2020
Bluebyrd:

What proofs? Can you mention them? Or is it the "anonymous sources"?. Use the brain God gave you and stop being gullible. Majority are actually not idiotic like liberals, it's in the name, libidiots!! And it fits.
Go and argue with the altlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg.You are the one not using the brains God gave you start applying it
Also go and argue with the past tweets and videos of Trump giving validity to this report.
Oga shut up you have nothing sensible to put forward as an argument I am sure if this was against Biden it would not be fake news.
grin grin

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