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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 9:20pm On Dec 09, 2024
The anti-spam bot on here must be heterophobic ๐Ÿ’€

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 9:22pm On Dec 09, 2024
I don't even understand.

My profile still has a ban disclaimer for this section and I can comment, but I cannot edit my comments. What's going on?? ??
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ishilove: 9:27pm On Dec 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:
I don't even understand.

My profile still has a ban disclaimer for this section and I can comment, but I cannot edit my comments. What's going on?? ??
Offer a sacrifice to the gods.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 9:29pm On Dec 09, 2024
Ishilove:
Offer a sacrifice to the gods.

I'm scared of replying with more than two lines to any comment now before it gets me again. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ishilove: 9:31pm On Dec 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:


I'm scared of replying with more than two lines to any comment now before it gets me again. ๐Ÿ˜‚
The gods must be crazy ๐Ÿคฃ
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 9:32pm On Dec 09, 2024
This is literally still on my profile and I'm commenting. But I cannot edit previous posts.


If it's a glitch, may it last long.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ishilove: 9:33pm On Dec 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:
This is literally still on my profile and I'm commenting. But I cannot edit previous posts.


If it's a glitch, may it last long.
Likely a glitch
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:47pm On Dec 09, 2024
Daniel penny not guilty. Another stupid move from Bragg.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 9:57pm On Dec 09, 2024
Ishilove:
The gods must be crazy ๐Ÿคฃ

I will use their benevolence judiciously then. And proofread my comments before hitting submit...


AmazonTopaz:
Conservatives are not our allies in this fight. Their opposition to trans ideology is different from of gender critical feminists like us. Their opposition to it is driven by what you have outlined and how some men have expectations of how men are supposed to act and that's not always in women's interest. If they cared about women they wouldn't stay silent on abuses meted out against women. I am a feminist who leans center-left of the political spectrum anyway. I agree with your submission.

Oh yes, absolutely they're not.

Abuse that women experience in other spaces- their marriage, workplace...it is convenient for the misogynistic ones among them to ignore this. And some of them have a paternalistic view of "defending women" against other males, not because they think women have the right to self-autonomy...but it's just like "this is my wife. This is my sister. This is my daughter. Why are you dangling your male parts around them?"


They also believe in an "inward" sense of being a woman + a physical idea of how a woman should present.

cococandy:
So far, thanks for keeping it respectful.

Magnolia I can understand you not being right or left because itโ€™s not your direct cup of tea but I donโ€™t have the luxury of being neutral

Same here. Thank you as well. ๐Ÿ˜‡


I just want to correct that I'm not neutral. That makes it seem as though I am unaffected/nonchalant. I do care about women's rights. Across board, and if the conversation was about harmful right-wing rhetorics (or plain old misogynistic ones in other parts of the world), I would address it. As I have always done.

I also know radfems or rad-leaning feminists in America who are of the same stance. Women who have been caught directly in the crossfire, and suffered repercussions, and are (now) neither left nor right inclined. So it's not as if my position is necessarily geo-restricted lol or like I'm just speaking because it's easy to when I'm not in America.


Are you active on Twitter, by the way?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:16pm On Dec 09, 2024
Magnoliaa:

Same here. Thank you as well. ๐Ÿ˜‡

๐Ÿซถ๐Ÿฝ

I just want to correct that I'm not neutral. That makes it seem as though I am unaffected/nonchalant. I do care about women's rights. Across board, and if the conversation was about harmful right-wing rhetorics (or plain old misogynistic ones in other parts of the world), I would address it. As I have always done.
cool ๐Ÿ˜Ž


Are you active on Twitter, by the way?

Unfortunately Iโ€™m not.

It wasnโ€™t interactive enough for me at first so I never got a hang of it. Then when I became interested Elon went and ruined it. Lmao.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 10:24pm On Dec 09, 2024
budaatum:


The above is like saying the equality black people enjoy in America today is due to enlightened white people, when the facts are that the oppression black people experienced in America was due to the backwardness of the white people (and some ignorant black people, I dare add).

The oppression and lack of freedom that women experienced was due to the backwardness of men who oppressed them. And the freedom that women experience today is due to their own fight back.
Dey play!!!!
The women of Afghanistan wanted "freedom" and the men said: nay!!!
And the "nays!!!" Had their way. Why? Na man get power.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TemporaryHansel: 10:24pm On Dec 09, 2024
AmazonTopaz:

Women fought for their freedoms men didn't give us shit. Study history before coming here to talk bull. Women in Afghanistan will do the same thing when they have become hit against the wall. Freedoms are fought for and not given. You don't get to water our struggles to satisfy your fragile egos. We owe men nothing.

Ladyhipolita calm down. When, and how did you become so aggressive? Been seeing a lot of posts from you on this thread, and I can't help but wonder what triggered such change. The men in your life must not be living to your expectations?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 10:30pm On Dec 09, 2024
AmazonTopaz:

Women fought for their freedoms men didn't give us shit. Study history before coming here to talk bull. Women in Afghanistan will do the same thing when they have become hit against the wall. Freedoms are fought for and not given. You don't get to water our struggles to satisfy your fragile egos. We owe men nothing.
Every freedom women In the west have, is because some 'men' thought it wise and women have those 'men' to thank for that.
Go fight for women's right for Saudi Arabia, make men press your neck. Turn you to believer sharp sharp.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:48pm On Dec 09, 2024
TemporaryHansel:


Ladyhipolita calm down. When, and how did you become so aggressive? Been seeing a lot of posts from you on this thread, and I can't help but wonder what triggered such change. The men in your life must not be living up to your expectations.

These feminists are why no one likes them today. Their fight is hatred for men rather than women's rights.
They are always silent about things that affect women, like the trans movement in women's bathrooms and sports.
Her statement makes it look as if all men have been barriers to women's freedoms and that no men have supported or contributed to women's struggles for equality.
Ignoring the fact that men, through the train of history, have been allies in feminist movements. People like Frederick Douglass, John Stuart Mill, and others have actively supported gender equality and women's rights.

She acts as if freedom is something that must always be fought for and never given. Correct me if you may. Where in history women took up arms and won a battle against men for their freedom? They complained through activism, and men Gave them their wishes. That's given not taking. Societal changes often result from cooperation, negotiation, and shifts in collective values, which include contributions from both men and women.

Now, she thinks that activists can function in places like Afghanistan without losing their heads. Let's see if the women in Afghanistan will pick up arms and fight for their freedom, as she is insinuating in her post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:52pm On Dec 09, 2024
bemeruca:


Wrong

You are so ignorant and loud mouthed. If you cannot read about the history of women's rights keep quiet and stop trying to teach me what I know.

Leave my mentions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:53pm On Dec 09, 2024
TemporaryHansel:


Ladyhipolita calm down. When, and how did you become so aggressive? Been seeing a lot of posts from you on this thread, and I can't help but wonder what triggered such change. The men in your life must not be living to your expectations?

Who be this one?
. undecided undecided undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:56pm On Dec 09, 2024
kentebemoney:

Every freedom women In the west have, is because some 'men' thought it wise and women have those 'men' to thank for that.
Go fight for women's right for Saudi Arabia, make men press your neck. Turn you to believer sharp sharp.
Again, keep quiet. Women fought for their freedoms through our history. They used violent and peaceful means to attain every right they got today. In Saudi Arabia, women's rights lawyers, some in prison while others, advocated for the basic little rights that they have today including right to drive cars which came into effect in 2018 because the Crown Prince listened and has his agenda of transforming the country. So shut up your mouth if you cannot do basic research. Men didn't give women rights. Women fought for it all, if the women in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East are ready to be liberated they too will fight for their rights and they will get it and it's not because of the benevolence of men. It never has been and never will be. Women gave men hell before they succumbed to basic rights like voting and education men didn't do shit.
So educate yourself or get lost.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:00pm On Dec 09, 2024
AmazonTopaz:


You are so ignorant and loud mouthed. If you cannot read about the history of women's rights keep quiet and stop trying to teach me what I know.

Leave my mentions.

The loudmouth here is you.
History is rarely a simple narrative of women fighting against men or Europe fighting against germans. Many freedoms and rights have been achieved through a combination of struggle, advocacy, dialogue, and sometimes the willingness of those in power often men in historical contexts to share or relinquish power.

So how did women take their freedom from men if men did not recognize their freedom and grant it to them? I will wait for your answer.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 11:57pm On Dec 09, 2024
AmazonTopaz:
Who be this one?
. undecided undecided undecided

A coward clown most likely. And one deserving of being ignored to oblivion, if you ask me.

cococandy:
It wasnโ€™t interactive enough for me at first so I never got a hang of it. Then when I became interested Elon went and ruined it. Lmao.

Don't get me started on that man-child and his erratic antics? ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


I was going to invite you to a feminist space on Twitter (or X as it blandly goes nowadays). I checked online, and I saw from X's Help Center website or so that you can listen in Spaces without having an account, but I cannot confirm that.

Anyway, if you'd be interested and would have the chance to, and it's hopefully possible to listen without an account, here's the link to the space (you can set a reminder beforehand) - https://x.com/i/spaces/1ZkJzRrXBNXJv/peek

It's going to be a discussion addressing male violence against women, and workable solutions towards combating it as part of the #16DaysofActivism global campaign. Nsijs


Amazon, you can also join in, if you can.

We'd be glad to have you ladies there! ๐Ÿค—

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 12:07am On Dec 10, 2024
bemeruca:
These feminists are why no one likes them today

I'm sorry, perhaps I missed the memo...

Why is this mentioned as if it's a necessity or requirement...to be liked? And that feminists are not liked by most people, supposedly, is some sort of failing?

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 12:11am On Dec 10, 2024
bemeruca:
These feminists are why no one likes them today

And *today*.

As opposed to WHEN were feminists ever liked? Yesterday? Twelve hours ago? Last year? I donโ€™t seem to get your point.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:21am On Dec 10, 2024
Magnoliaa:


And *today*.

As opposed to WHEN were feminists ever liked? Yesterday? Twelve hours ago? Last year? I donโ€™t seem to get your point.

He is chief priest and scotng. Don't bother too much.
grin
Let me bring fish to appease him/his.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:26am On Dec 10, 2024
basilico:


Trump is just trolling. Let's assume that a deep state actor was involved in the attempted assassination. How you think he is feeling right now .
You don't have to warn somebody directly , you can act stupidly but send an ominous warning.
Of all the criminals , how come we still know nothing about that dead shooter? No recent photos . Nothing.
This. https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/06/dem-rep-crow-fbi-doj-are-stonewalling-on-first-trump-assassination-attempt/

This guy who shot the health insurance boss. They have terabytes of CCTV footage from the streets, hotels etc already. The moment they catch him., they will dig up who his nanny was in a few days.

Sha send our own Fight, Fight Fight perfume hamper over. Make sure it smells nice and not musky.
It must have nice scent...like those ones we perceive on entering Sak 5th Ave, Nordstrom, JCP etc perfume section at the mall.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:28am On Dec 10, 2024
Magnoliaa:


I'm sorry, perhaps I missed the memo...

Why is this mentioned as if it's a necessity or requirement...to be liked? And that feminists are not liked by most people, supposedly, is some sort of failing?

It's failing when people start to say you are going too far, especially those who once support the movement.

It's 2024, feminism is irrelevant. There is nothing they are fighting for that they have not archived at least in the United States.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:08am On Dec 10, 2024
Magnoliaa:


So everything I said just flew over head. Got it.

The lesbian app founder who is being sued in Australia for discrimination is of no consequence. As well as the women who are leaving lesbian-dating apps in droves.

The women who have been sexually assaulted and physically attacked by TRAs is also of no significance.

The 800+ medals that have been lost to trans athletes in women's sport is also a very minute number.

The trans care ban case that was heard in the SCOTUS some days ago is not relevant.

The people who have been fired from their jobs or doxxed for stating gender critical views... who cares?

It doesn't matter if it's just one or two women it's affecting, so long as it doesn't affect you. Very manly of you so I'm not surprised.




That wasn't my point.

If a man can become a woman, and a woman can become a man, then homosexuality, and even heterosexuality, as sexual orientations become 'fluid.' This is another part of the issue to me, not merely numbers.


If you cannot understand the fact that the redefinition of sex into making an allowance for gender identity is concerning to everyone, I'm done interacting with you.

Like tf? Most social issues and commentaries rarely, occasionally apply to the general population but that doesn't mean talking about them is needless.


I- just have a good day.

My overarching view is that people should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it isn't affecting anyone else esp. with their own bodies. That's the reason I am pro-choice.
Some of the issues you are discussing go beyond that and I'm not in favor of that.
Esp. forcing people who don't disagree to adopt things like pronouns.
I thought I was clear on that.

But If a man wants to be a woman and then a man again or vice versa. eh...
I do think setting an age requirement for sexual transitions is necessary.
But then again the age requirement would have to be 16 because in some states they believe teenagers are mature enough to wed and have children. So why not own their own bodies?

But, I'm not a woman and so won't argue what you fear as a woman.
I was simply pointing out the statistics surrounding it.
And fyi, you and I agree on large swaths of this.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 6:57am On Dec 10, 2024
Magnoliaa:


A coward clown most likely. And one deserving of being ignored to oblivion, if you ask me.



Don't get me started on that man-child and his erratic antics? ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


I was going to invite you to a feminist space on Twitter (or X as it blandly goes nowadays). I checked online, and I saw from X's Help Center website or so that you can listen in Spaces without having an account, but I cannot confirm that.

Anyway, if you'd be interested and would have the chance to, and it's hopefully possible to listen without an account, here's the link to the space (you can set a reminder beforehand) - https://x.com/i/spaces/1ZkJzRrXBNXJv/peek

It's going to be a discussion addressing male violence against women, and workable solutions towards combating it as part of the #16DaysofActivism global campaign. Nsijs


Amazon, you can also join in, if you can.

We'd be glad to have you ladies there! ๐Ÿค—
Reminder set. Thank you. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:13am On Dec 10, 2024
kentebemoney:

Dey play!!!!
The women of Afghanistan wanted "freedom" and the men said: nay!!!
And the "nays!!!" Had their way. Why? Na man get power.


As I said, The oppression and lack of freedom that women experienced was due to the backwardness of men who oppressed them.

But you hopefully wouldn't want to be taliban just so you can claim to have power over women you oppress.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:22am On Dec 10, 2024
kkins25:
If I may, my buda, do you identify as black?

I identify as buda. You are however very free and welcome to identify me as you see me with your own eyes. I, off course, reserve my right to not acknowledge your identification of me.

So you understand. You may identify yourself as an idiot, but I do not have to buy in to how you identify yourself.

Sorry, couldn't bother with the video.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:20am On Dec 10, 2024
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:25am On Dec 10, 2024
Trump had dinner with Canadian PM. About tariffs it's reported he jokingly told him add Canada as the 51st state and he would make him governor.
He trolled him with this . He makes
Trudeau look like a pathetic weakling, I doubt Canadians will vote for him.Trump makes him a laughing stock.
This is worse than castrating him.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:29am On Dec 10, 2024
Harmeet Dhillon RNC lawyer to be incharge if DOJ electoral fraud investigation unit
I'm willing to bet she will go for 2020 Georgia fraud, in the process Ruby Moss and Wendy will return everything to Rudy Giuliani .
Fani Willis ...more trouble for her.
What a time to be alive.
The 2020 election was stolen.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by joseph1832(m): 9:42am On Dec 10, 2024
Magnoliaa:
This is literally still on my profile and I'm commenting. But I cannot edit previous posts.


If it's a glitch, may it last long.
You can still comment on other threads, not on foreign affairs, After the ban expires, you will be able to comment on the thread.

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