Poverty levels in Gaza has tripled - UN

Isreal does not allow things like blades, fabric/wool, jam, chocolate, wood, glucose, fishing nets, seeds and nuts, notebooks, sewing machine, horses and paper in the blockade.

Obivously, these are bomb making materials, so it makes a lot of sense. Isreal is only protecting itself form terrorist's bombs.

Sagamite:

Poverty levels in Gaza has tripled - UN

Isreal does not allow things like blades, fabric/wool, jam, chocolate, wood, glucose, fishing nets, seeds and nuts, notebooks, sewing machine, horses and paper in the blockade.

Obivously, these are bomb making materials, so it makes a lot of sense. Isreal is only protecting itself form terrorist's bombs.

Sagamite you have now willingly submitted yourself to the bandwagon of misinformation and misrepresentation of hard facts.

frosbel:

Sagamite you have now willingly submitted yourself to the bandwagon of misinformation and misrepresentation of hard facts.

Sorry?

Please give me the hitinformation and hitrepresentation me. I am submitting myself.

Population of Muslims = 1.571 billion.
Population of Jews = 13.155 million.

Ratio of Muslims to Jews = 120 to 1.

Global impact of Islamic terrorism = I.

Global impact of Jewish terrorism = J.

Surely, I/J <<< 120.

Hence, [size=18pt]extremist Jews are far more dangerous than extremist Muslims![/size]

For example:
1. Iraq War (fueled by extremist Jews like Paul Wolfowitz): Casualty estimate: 1,366,350 (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq)
2. September 11 Attacks (extremist Muslim group al-Qaeda): Casualty estimate: 2,976

Extremist Muslim / Extremist Jew kill ratio (I/J) = 0.002 (3 dp). Far less than 120.

So, on a quantitative note, [size=18pt]the extremist Jew is 55,000 times more dangerous than the extremist Muslim![/size]

Cohomology:

Population of Muslims = 1.571 billion.
Population of Jews = 13.155 million.

Ratio of Muslims to Jews = 120 to 1.

Global impact of Islamic terrorism = I.

Global impact of Jewish terrorism = J.

Surely, I/J <<< 120.

Hence, [size=18pt]extremist Jews are far more dangerous than extremist Muslims![/size]

For example:
1. Iraq War (fueled by extremist Jews like Paul Wolfowitz): Casualty estimate: 1,366,350 (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq)
2. September 11 Attacks (extremist Muslim group al-Qaeda): Casualty estimate: 2,976

Extremist Muslim / Extremist Jew kill ratio (I/J) = 0.002 (3 dp). Far less than 120.

So, on a quantitative note, [size=18pt]the extremist Jew is 55,000 times more dangerous than the extremist Muslim![/size]

Thanks for the comedy, lol.

frosbel:

Sorry you have lost me, why drag Palestinians into everyhting Hamas. Do you see Hamas as a valid representation of the Palestinians.

No, a valid representation of Palestinians is your village head since Hamas that won a landslide victory does not qualify because the US and Israel said so and of course your brain is inactive so you can't use it.

You are one shameless liar that is both ignorant and disgusting without any respect for facts.

Afam:

No, a valid representation of Palestinians is your village head since Hamas that won a landslide victory does not qualify because the US and Israel said so and of course your brain is inactive so you can't use it.

You are one shameless liar that is both ignorant and disgusting without any respect for facts.

Afam you are a DUNCE !

Obviously you have not been reading the news recently regarding events in the middle east.

You are so hollow that you have to wait to jump on to the comments made by others to make a point.

What university did you go to again ? lol.

frosbel:


Afam you are a DUNCE !

Obviously you have not been reading the news recently regarding events in the middle east.

You are so hollow that you have to wait to jump on to the comments made by others to make a point.

What university did you go to again ? lol.

I am still waiting for your right info o.

Photos obtained by a Turkish newspaper showing wounded Israeli military personnel. The truth continues to be emerge dispite all attempts dance around it.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/g.php?p=1&g=55#gallerytop

Pictures showing bloodied Israeli commandos being overpowered by activists aboard an aid ship targeted in the deadly raid May 31 were published Sunday by daily Hürriyet after being recovered from a digital camera’s memory card.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=hurriyet-daily-publishes-photos-of-bloodied-israeli-soldiers-2010-06-06

Logic may be starting to prevail in Turkey. It appears people are starting to ask questions.

Gülen, a Turkish religious leader living in Pennsylvania, said last week that the tragedy occurred because the activists failed to seek an agreement with Israel before approaching Gaza.

Gülen also said, “[The delivery was] a sign of defying authority, and would not lead to fruitful outcomes."

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=opposing-opinions-on-gulen-from-akp-officials-2010-06-06

Turkey's prime minister and Islamic party leader is starting to sound senile.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan accused the main opposition leader Sunday of “advocating on behalf of Tel Aviv.”

_ _ _

Meeting with Internet media administrators at another location in Istanbul on Saturday, Erdoğan complained about user comments below news stories that he said contained such unbearable insults against his person that they could “drive one to murder.”

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=pm-states-it-is-time-to-8220score-a-goal8221-2010-06-06

@Mariory

Those are pictures of commando's being helped and treated by the activists who seem to have acquitted themselves very well against members of Israels helicopter borne, abseiling special forces;

Kenneth Nichols O’Keefe, a U.S. Gulf War veteran who was aboard the ferry, said he was among the activists who overpowered three Israeli soldiers, according to the Anatolia news agency.

“[The soldiers] looked at us,  They thought we would kill them, but we let them go,” O'Keefe said, adding that he took the weapon of one of the soldiers and emptied it, according to the Anatolia report.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=hurriyet-daily-publishes-photos-of-bloodied-israeli-soldiers-2010-06-06

The lesson for the future is to apply less shock and awe against civilians and NEVER in international waters. There is nothing to differentiate Israeli commado's attacking a ship in international waters from the sort of pirates that are common off Somali waters.
More important than the above, end the inhuman blockade.

Beaf:

@Mariory

Those are pictures of commando's being helped and treated by the activists who seem to have acquitted themselves very well against members of Israels helicopter borne, abseiling special forces;

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=hurriyet-daily-publishes-photos-of-bloodied-israeli-soldiers-2010-06-06

Keep dancing. There are tons of pictures of injured activists being helped and treated by Israeli's. I have no idea what you thought you were typing there. The "members of Israels helicopter borne, abseiling special forces" also seemed to have acquitted themselves well. They brought the ship under control after eliminating the "matyrs".

[size=16pt]Cameron urged to show leadership in ending Gaza siege[/size]
By IRNA,
London : British Muslims have joined a coalition of politicians, trade unionists, academics and lawyers to ensure that Prime Minister David Cameron keeps up pressure on the Israeli regime to end its three-year siege of Gaza.
“We urge you in the name of humanity to provide leadership to end this siege,” the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said in an open letter to Cameron Thursday signed by the coalition of more than 70 others.
“This state of affairs should not be allowed to continue for a day longer and the time has come for the newly elected British government to use all its resources to bring an end to the inhumane Gaza Blockade,” the letter said.
Cameron told MPs returning to parliament on Wednesday that Israel’s killing in international waters of passengers in a commando raid on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla was “completely unacceptable.”
“It is in their own interests to lift it (the siege) and to allow these vital supplies to get through,” he said speaking as a “friend of Israel.”
In the joint letter, MCB secretary general Abdul Bari said that he also commended Foreign Secretary William Hague’s statement calling for an end to the blockade of Gaza and said he was asking the UK government “to pursue this course of action as a matter of urgency.”
According to UN statistics, around 70% of Gazans live on less than $1 a day, 75% rely on food aid and 60% have no daily access to water.
A UN fact finding mission has also described the blockade as "collective punishment", illegal in international law.
An Early Day Motion to parliament, calling on the international community to require Israel to end its siege also immediately was signed by nearly 70 MPs as soon as it was raised on Wednesday.

[size=16pt]Hague: Change universal jurisdiction law[/size]
LONDON – British Foreign Minister William Hague said on Thursday he intends to act speedily to change Britain’s universal jurisdiction law and that this is agreed on within the coalition government.

At a briefing at the Foreign Office, Hague was asked by The Jerusalem Post if he has a timetable for a change to the law, which [size=14pt]allows private complaints of war crimes to be lodged against military personnel even if they are not British citizens and the alleged crimes were committed elsewhere.[/size]

[size=14pt]France, Britain urge international Gaza inquiry
(AFP) – 17 hours ago[/size]

PARIS — The foreign ministers of France and Britain said an "international" inquiry was necessary to resolve the dispute over Israel's deadly raid on Gaza aid ships, after talks late Sunday in the French capital.

"We think it is very important that there is a credible and transparent investigation, there should be an international presence at minimum" in the probe, said Foreign Secretary William Hague at a press conference with his French counterpart Bernard Kouchner.

Kouchner added that the international inquiry was needed "because several countries are involved" in the incident.

France also proposed that the European Union could step in to help defuse the situation by checking the cargo on ships bound for the Gaza Strip as well as the Rafah crossing point into the Hamas-run Palestinian territory.

"We could very well check the cargo of ships heading to Gaza, We would be very willing to do it," said Kouchner of an EU role.

He noted that the EU had taken charge of the Rafah border crossing from Egypt to Gaza in the past.

"We could again propose that the European Union, control this crossing in a very strict manner," he said.

Hague also spoke of how the EU could "help as it has in the past" by ensuring that a flow of needed aid and economic assistance reaches Gaza, while at the same time addressing Israel's concerns that weapons are not coming into the territory.

Israel on Sunday resisted pressure for an international probe of the May 31 raid that killed nine Turks.

Israel's ambassador to Washington Michael Oren said on US television that his country rejects "the idea of an international commission."

"Israel is a democracy. Israel has the ability and the right to investigate itself, not to be investigated by any international board," he told "Fox News Sunday."

French President Nicolas Sarkozy also made an appeal in a phone call to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept "a credible and impartial inquiry" into the deadly raid, the French leader's office said.

Kouchner said France has said from the beginning that it is up to the secretary general of the United Nations to choose the form of the inquiry.

"We think that it is totally in the interests of our Israeli friends to have a wide inquiry, one that is definitely international" in scope, Kouchner said.

On the issue of Iran, another major concern for Britain and France as permanent members of the UN Security Council, Kouchner said he did not expect a Council vote on further sanctions against Tehran over its disputed nuclear programme for another week, possibly Monday June 14.

He said the sanctions vote was waiting for the official response from France, Russia and the United States to be handed to the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), regarding a nuclear fuel swap deal with Iran brokered by Turkey and Brazil.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i5vV9JOsvURh_gKdQI0eMdfNrF7g

[size=14pt]
- Israel Ambassador Rejects Flotilla Clash InquiryNew York Times
- Israel resists pressure for international inquiry into ship raid
- France: EU can check ships heading to Gaza (AP) – 17 hours ago
- ISRAEL IN THE EYE OF A STORM OVER THE FLOTILLA RAID [/size]


The question now, if the massacre that they perpetrated was just an action of defense as they claimed, why would they reject an international investigation committee? What are they afraid of? What are they hiding?
It is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Sagamite:

Poverty levels in Gaza has tripled - UN

and? Poverty levels is worse in most african countries, is that due to a "siege" too?

Sagamite:

[size=16pt]Isreal does not allow things like blades, fabric/wool, jam, chocolate, wood, glucose, fishing nets, seeds and nuts, notebooks, sewing machine, horses and paper in the blockade.[/size]

Obivously, these are bomb making materials, so it makes a lot of sense. Isreal is only protecting itself form terrorist's bombs.

lol and these folks expect us to take them seriously. The level of dishonesty, disinformation and outright illiteracy here is just mind-boggling.

[size=18pt]Netanyahu: International inquiry panel would create problematic precedent [/size]
[size=14pt]The Prime Minister has not officially rejected the proposal by UN chief Ban Ki-moon, but people close to him say he is studying other options.
[/size](ha'aretz)

[size=14pt]The massacre of activists should not have been unexpected.[/size]

On May 28, three days before the raid, top Israeli military officials revealed details of their strategy to Maariv, Israel’s most widely circulated paper. The caption of the Maariv article reflected the military command’s plan to use force: “On the way to violence; one of the boats is on its way.”


Once again Israel has shown its true colors, its murderous intentions; it showed the world what a ruthless, emotionless, cold-blooded killing machine it is.

We all remember that apartheid regime had no problem when it killed an innocent American girl named Rachel Corrie, we all remember the British reporters that the IDF shot dead.

This monster defies all moral or human values

[size=16pt]THE DEVIL HAS NO FAITH[/size]

[size=14pt]
SO WHEN YOU CAN NOT TWIST THE FACTS YOU JUST REJECT IT

Is that much your heart is full of hatred? Such dark heart can't see light.[/size]

Sagamite:

Sorry?

Please give me the hitinformation and hitrepresentation me. I am submitting myself.

Here it is . . .

More (note due to file size, activity by crossing, fuel transfers, maintenance services on Gaza electric and gas companies have been omitted.

davidylan:

and? Poverty levels is worse in most african countries, is that due to a "siege" too?

And your point is . . . . . . .?

Why did you make this statement?

Are you saying the poverty in Gaza is not due to the blockade because Africa has poverty too?

davidylan:

lol and these folks expect us to take them seriously. The level of dishonesty, disinformation and outright illiteracy here is just mind-boggling.

So are you saying UK's BBC and Channel 4 News are lying? But the IDF are the truth-sayers (as long as the ban independent media and confisticate evidence)?

davidylan:

Here it is . . .

davidylan:

More (note due to file size, activity by crossing, fuel transfers, maintenance services on Gaza electric and gas companies have been omitted.

I laugh when you bring "evidence" like this.

So IDF are telling the truth (despite always trying to prevent independent assessment), but the UN Humanitarian Agency is lying when they say Isreal is lying?

I bet when IDF does their "investigation" into the fortilla shootings, which they AS USUAL refuse independent investigation, you will believe everything they say?

Sagamite:

And your point is . . . . . . .?

Why did you make this statement?

Are you saying the poverty in Gaza is not due to the blockade because Africa has poverty too?

and are you trying to claim here that if there was no blockade everyone in Gaza would be middle-class rich folks? There is no blockade in the UK, why are there poor people there? Lazy conjectures really shldnt be coming from folks of your caliber.

Gaza has an economy that rivals that of many smaller latin nations, much larger than that of several African nations . . . and you say the blockade made them poor?

Sagamite:

So are you saying UK's BBC and Channel 4 News are lying? But the IDF are the truth-sayers (as long as the ban independent media and confisticate evidence)?

We already know that much of the western media is complicit in transmitting arab propaganda with no recourse to the facts. Because BBC says Gazans are poor means they are 100% correct? What happened to factual info?

Sagamite:



I laugh when you bring "evidence" like this.

So IDF are telling the truth (despite always trying to prevent independent assessment), but the UN Humanitarian Agency is lying when they say Isreal is lying?

I bet when IDF does their "investigation" into the fortilla shootings, which they AS USUAL refuse independent investigation, you will believe everything they say?

I'm sorry but those are FACTS that even the UN does not dispute. Its no surprise that propaganda from HAMAS is embraced as truth but anytime Israel brings supportive evidence we start hearing about false skepticism.

The same UN humanitarian agency was complicit in claiming there was a genocide in Qana when there was none.

Trucks from Israel send about 15,000 tons of supplies WEEKLY to Gaza . . . these are DOCUMENTED FACTS, you can turn your nose at them all day . . . Egypt has a closed border with Gaza, i dont see you complaining.
These lists are posted on Israeli government websites, no reputable media, nor the UN, not even HAMAS have denied that these are not facts. The fuel is imported from Europe specifically for Gaza . . . no one has ever denied that the supplies do not get to their destination.

There is plenty of proof showing HAMAS snippers trying to prevent trucks from crossing into Gaza.

Like i said earlier and i repeat . . . i posted FACTS, that you turn your nose at them is indicative of your own mindset, one that slants towards anti-Israeli sentiments.

you earlier posted this - Isreal does not allow things like blades, fabric/wool, jam, chocolate, wood, glucose, fishing nets, seeds and nuts, notebooks, sewing machine, horses and paper in the blockade. . . . where was your proof? Where were the links to show this as true? Yet we provide reputable facts and you just waive them aside because they dont tally with what your own hyper-active mind conjures?

Someone posted this on a UK discussion board and i thought it was pertinent here too . . .

[size=16pt]The trouble is that there three main posters, those that hate Israel with a passion, no matter what evidence you place before them their attitude is " I have made my mind up don't confuse me with facts. We all know who these people are because their names come up time and time again. The second type are those who are pro Israel like you and I who know what the real situation is. The third group are those who do not know what to believe, they might well see through the massive distortions and lies by Hamas/Turkey but still feel because so many people are against Israel there must be truth in numbers. I hope that these people, the third group, will realize sooner or later what the truth really is.[/size]

Group 1 - Afam, Beaf, cohomology, bomany, romeo4real e.t.c.

Group 2 - Frosbel, ElRazur, Pro01, Mariory, Bawomolo, dayokanu, Davidylan, Madlady

Group 3 - Sagamite

Trucks from Israel send about 15,000 tons of supplies WEEKLY to Gaza . . . these are DOCUMENTED FACTS, you can turn your nose at them all day . . . Egypt has a closed border with Gaza, i dont see you complaining.

This is my own point, Egypt has a blockade on Gaza but no one cares to go there with Flotilla to force them to open their borders to Gaza their fellow Arab brothers

Cohomology:

The extremist Jew is 55,000 times more dangerous than the extremist Muslim!

Yeah sure, lol.

[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y&hl=en[/flash]

^^

And yet some sick, crazy minds on Nairaland still support hamas ?


Deluded souls !