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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 8:24am On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


Stop decieving yourself. The Bible is God's word. You can't deny anything about it. It's either you believe or you don't, and you are absolutely responsible for what choice you make. What is your point?. Let's even say, that someone wrote it for Him, does that make it false or fake?.
The fact u believe the Bible is God's word does not make it true neither does it mean I will believe.
The Bible is not Gods word, stop spreading lies. I don't believe it because it makes no sense that God will u an ancient book written by man to communicate to us. He should know better.
And yes, the fact that fallible humans wrote it in the first place and claim it is God makes it completely false!


You must really be thinking God is a play mate. Just because He loves us so much, He became man to save us. Must He also dance to your tune as well?, don't you have even the smallest atom of regard and respect for the one who made you?.
If ur God does not want me to think he is my play mate he should start acting like a responsible being for once. If he loves me so much u wouldn't be the one telling me. The fact that u are telling me makes it all lies. He can dance to any tune he like vomit he should stop acting dumb by sending fallible human like u to tell me he loves me... That's dumb for a supposedly all powerful creator.


He sent prophets to us to give us His word and tell us His word and His love for us, but just like you, men hated them, abused them and even killed them. He came by himself, became like us, just to express how much He loves us, died and rose again for us. By laying down His life for us, He actually debased Himself to the lowest low possible, yet men just like you now, still doubted, rejected, abused and even called for His crucifixion!. What else do you want?. I have told you that man has no excuse!. As it stands now, it's either you believe or you don't. When the time for judgement comes, you can then present your defense against Him and let's see how innocent you are.
Now listen to yourself, he sent prophets that we wouldn't take serious and even kill to us. Why should he be sending untrustworthy humans to us when he knows we will not believe them? What nonsense prophet? Why didn't u believe in prophet Mohammed and become a Muslim? If humans start believing anyone who calls himself a prophet the same God will still be the one to accuse of of following false prophets meanwhile he is the one who started sending prophets to us knowing how dubious humans can be.
U are asking me what else I want him to do... Is ur God confused? Is he dumb? How can't he know the right thing to do? He should at least stop sending fallible humans to tell us about him, that's outrightly dumb


Excuse me, ordinary President of Nations, like Trump of USA and Buhari of Nigeria or let us even talk about ex-presidents, they have spokes persons, who speak for them. And whatever the spokes persons release as the position of their principals, is believed to be endorced by that principal person, and it's therefore accepted as the true position of the person of interest. So now, if the Almighty God speaks through His prophets, He's wrong?.
We know presidents are humans, we have heard them talk, we have seen them talk and make promises, we know the process of selecting their aids. We know the importance of them using their aids and speakers to reach us and how it affects their duty as presidents. They even have to select competent people who have experience and if those people do not do well we still criticise and point out their floors.
But ur God calls himself the creator and goes into hiding. No one has seen or heard from him. Different people have different concept of him and that's the only idea we have of him. There are so many lies about him. Oga... Let him do the needful... If your God could even act like a common president I would take him serious for once... I don't take dumbness for granted.


Jeremiah 35:15 I Jeremiah 35:15 I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.
Story for the Gods... Na u de quote and Na u de call am God... Keep on deceiving urself.


Pride is one thing you need to deal with. So, you will not believe except God comes directly to you. SMH.
I will not believe in fallible humans... If not I would have been a Muslim by now or a traditionalist... If ur God cannot reach me he should forget it...


My dear, stop chasing shadows, and come to Jesus Christ now. All this permutations and analysis you're doing will not save you.
U must be a comedian


John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Story for the gods... Your God should first prove himself... First things first.


There's no excuse for anybody anywhere. The fact is that, you have heard about the saviour, what you choose to make out of His word, love and ways, is totally yours.

Jesus Christ is the way!.
There is no excuse for u not to believe as a Muslim that Jesus is not the son of God but a mere messenger... And Mohammed(pbuh) is the true messenger of Allah


Can a drowning man refuse a boat from saving him, all the while saying if it's not helicopter, he wouldn't want to be saved?. If that happens, that man may as well drown. Who suffers in the end?.
Fortunately I am not drowning... Ur God should prove himself.. First things first

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:19am On Jun 19, 2018
frank317:

The fact u believe the Bible is God's word does not make it true neither does it mean I will believe.
The Bible is not Gods word, stop spreading lies. I don't believe it because it makes no sense that God will u an ancient book written by man to communicate to us. He should know better.
And yes, the fact that fallible humans wrote it in the first place and claim it is God makes it completely false!


If ur God does not want me to think he is my play mate he should start acting like a responsible being for once. If he loves me so much u wouldn't be the one telling me. The fact that u are telling me makes it all lies. He can dance to any tune he like vomit he should stop acting dumb by sending fallible human like u to tell me he loves me... That's dumb for a supposedly all powerful creator.


Now listen to yourself, he sent prophets that we wouldn't take serious and even kill to us. Why should he be sending untrustworthy humans to us when he knows we will not believe them? What nonsense prophet? Why didn't u believe in prophet Mohammed and become a Muslim? If humans start believing anyone who calls himself a prophet the same God will still be the one to accuse of of following false prophets meanwhile he is the one who started sending prophets to us knowing how dubious humans can be.
U are asking me what else I want him to do... Is ur God confused? Is he dumb? How can't he know the right thing to do? He should at least stop sending fallible humans to tell us about him, that's outrightly dumb


We know presidents are humans, we have heard them talk, we have seen them talk and make promises, we know the process of selecting their aids. We know the importance of them using their aids and speakers to reach us and how it affects their duty as presidents. They even have to select competent people who have experience and if those people do not do well we still criticise and point out their floors.
But ur God calls himself the creator and goes into hiding. No one has seen or heard from him. Different people have different concept of him and that's the only idea we have of him. There are so many lies about him. Oga... Let him do the needful... If your God could even act like a common president I would take him serious for once... I don't take dumbness for granted.


Story for the Gods... Na u de quote and Na u de call am God... Keep on deceiving urself.


I will not believe in fallible humans... If not I would have been a Muslim by now or a traditionalist... If ur God cannot reach me he should forget it...


U must be a comedian


Story for the gods... Your God should first prove himself... First things first.


There is no excuse for u not to believe as a Muslim that Jesus is not the son of God but a mere messenger... And Mohammed(pbuh) is the true messenger of Allah


Fortunately I am not drowning... Ur God should prove himself.. First things first

I pity you o. Seriously, I feel for you because you don't know what you're doing.

Know this, after your noise, refusal to believe God's word, abusing and cursing God, If you don't repent, you will without fail, bow down and worship Him (God almighty) and you will confess Him as the Lord and master. SMH. You will without fail stand before Him for judgement. You will surely give account of how you managed the life given to you. The choice is always yours.

You just don't know, that's why you're saying the things you're saying. Ignorance and pride are big disasters. Pray they don't destroy you.

Jesus Christ is the way. You can't deny it. Repent and be saved.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 11:34am On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


I pity you o. Seriously, I feel for you because you don't know what you're doing.

Know this, after your noise, refusal to believe God's word, abusing and cursing God, If you don't repent, you will without fail, bow down and worship Him (God almighty) and you will confess Him as the Lord and master. SMH. You will without fail stand before Him for judgement. You will surely give account of how you managed the life given to you. The choice is always yours.

You just don't know, that's why you're saying the things you're saying. Ignorance and pride are big disasters. Pray they don't destroy you.

Jesus Christ is the way. You can't deny it. Repent and be saved.

Ogbeni stop telling lies.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 12:18pm On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


I pity you o. Seriously, I feel for you because you don't know what you're doing.
Isn't it quite sad that u who is worshiping a God that his words are only in a book written by ancient cattle readers is pitying me? U know what u are doing but u carry ur whole life matter and put in the hands of something that lives only in ur head.


Know this, after your noise, refusal to believe God's word, abusing and cursing God, If you don't repent, you will without fail, bow down and worship Him (God almighty) and you will confess Him as the Lord and master. SMH. You will without fail stand before Him for judgement. You will surely give account of how you managed the life given to you. The choice is always yours.
Story for the gods... Ur God should first prove himself... First things first.
For now, ur God does not even exist. So all these u typed above Na long story.


You just don't know, that's why you're saying the things you're saying. Ignorance and pride are big disasters. Pray they don't destroy you.
I know ur God has never been seen, lives in the head of believers, his words are only words of fellow humans that were written in a book, he has never reach me before nor even shown me the slightest prove he exists... Yes u think its pride.. If not accepting stupidity is pride... I will gladly accept I am proud.


Jesus Christ is the way. You can't deny it. Repent and be saved.
Stop repeating nonsense. U cannot prove ur God exists.
Well, my Muslim friends who is just like u also says Jesus is not the way.. He said Mohammed is the true messenger of Allah.. So u better repent and be saved.

My happiness is that if at the end of the day hell is real,
U are likely going to hell.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 5:12pm On Jun 19, 2018
frank317:

Isn't it quite sad that u who is worshiping a God that his words are only in a book written by ancient cattle readers is pitying me? U know what u are doing but u carry ur whole life matter and put in the hands of something that lives only in ur head.


Story for the gods... Ur God should first prove himself... First things first.
For now, ur God does not even exist. So all these u typed above Na long story.


I know ur God has never been seen, lives in the head of believers, his words are only words of fellow humans that were written in a book, he has never reach me before nor even shown me the slightest prove he exists... Yes u think its pride.. If not accepting stupidity is pride... I will gladly accept I am proud.


Stop repeating nonsense. U cannot prove ur God exists.
Well, my Muslim friends who is just like u also says Jesus is not the way.. He said Mohammed is the true messenger of Allah.. So u better repent and be saved.

My happiness is that if at the end of the day hell is real,
U are likely going to hell.

May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on your soul. If only you know.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 5:18pm On Jun 19, 2018
dalaman:


Ogbeni stop telling lies.

Repent and receive Jesus Christ today!. That's what's important and necessary. Jesus Christ loves you and wants you to be saved, nothing like lie there.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 5:22pm On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


Repent and receive Jesus Christ today!. That's what's important and necessary. Jesus Christ loves you and wants you to be saved, nothing like lie there.

Stop deluding yourself by spreading deluded lies. What is important and necessary is that you get your delusions off your head.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 5:23pm On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on your soul. If only you know.

What he knows is that you are deluded and spreading fictitious mythology as if they are real.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 11:50pm On Jun 19, 2018
Primesky:


May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on your soul. If only you know.

May u start to use ur brain and stop believing in a lie. May u realize that this creator lives only in ur head or heart. For those of us who don't believe... He lives absolutely nowhere.

Living in just head and heart is soooo low for a mist powerful and all every every creator... Don't u think
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 11:51pm On Jun 19, 2018
dalaman:


What he knows is that you are deluded and spreading fictitious mythology as if they are real.

I really feel sorry for the guy... Indeed only dead Jew Jesus can save him

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:39am On Jun 20, 2018
frank317:


May u start to use ur brain and stop believing in a lie. May u realize that this creator lives only in ur head or heart. For those of us who don't believe... He lives absolutely nowhere.

Living in just head and heart is soooo low for a mist powerful and all every every creator... Don't u think

Oh!, how I pity you. So, you're simply an accident, a mere chance, right?. Otherwise tell me how you came about. You must know, because you say you think, right?. You don't believe in a creator God. All right, so go ahead tell us how you appeared here on this earth and at this time, with all the capabilities you have?.

I want to learn from the thinker.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:23am On Jun 20, 2018
dalaman:


What he knows is that you are deluded and spreading fictitious mythology as if they are real.

Hahaha... The word of God is more real than you. Oh, but you can't understand this!. You see, the child in primary school will always think he knows so much. But there is a University to go to, and a higher knowledge to acquire. So it's sheer stupidity to say, I've known it all, and therefore jump into conclusion. Where and where have you gone to?. How many mountains do you know?. How much of the world's oceans have you explored?. What proportion of the Universe have you discovered, let alone studied?. Yet, you open your small tiny mouth to say, there's no God. Then you are and came by mistake!, or aren't you?, a chance that just happened?. If not, tell me how you came about, since God doesn't exist.

See, let me tell you something. Except you repent and give your life to Jesus Christ, you're not alive!.

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. The good news is that despite all this things you're doing, He still loves you so deeply and is willing to save you right now!. There's no greater love than this!

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by dalaman: 12:58pm On Jun 20, 2018
Primesky:


Hahaha... The word of God is more real than you. Oh, but you can't understand this!. You see, the child in primary school will always think he knows so much. But there is a University to go to, and a higher knowledge to acquire. So it's sheer stupidity to say, I've known it all, and therefore jump into conclusion. Where and where have you gone to?. How many mountains do you know?. How much of the world's oceans have you explored?. What proportion of the Universe have you discovered, let alone studied?. Yet, you open your small tiny mouth to say, there's no God. Then you are and came by mistake!, or aren't you?, a chance that just happened?. If not, tell me how you came about, since God doesn't exist.

See, let me tell you something. Except you repent and give your life to Jesus Christ, you're not alive!.

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. The good news is that despite all this things you're doing, He still loves you so deeply and is willing to save you right now!. There's no greater love than this!

Baa baa baa sheep! You are just spewing ancient mythology at me thinking you are doing something important when in reality delusional mythology is what you are spewing. You remain a liar and all what you have stated are empty lies that have no truth in them.

You are delusional! Your God is imaginary that I'd why you are speaking on its behalf, it can't talk to.me and tell.me anything because it remains an imaginary idea that lives only inside your head and the head of other believers like you that subscribe to that idea. Stop telling and spreading lies all over the place.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by frank317: 1:03pm On Jun 20, 2018
Primesky:


Oh!, how I pity you. So, you're simply an accident, a mere chance, right?. Otherwise tell me how you came about. You must know, because you say you think, right?. You don't believe in a creator God. All right, so go ahead tell us how you appeared here on this earth and at this time, with all the capabilities you have?.

I want to learn from the thinker.

Like I told u before... It's better u accept we have no idea how humans or life or even the universe started than to make up and incompetent confused being in ur head and become this made up beings spokes man.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by M0ron: 7:59pm On Jul 01, 2018
frank317:


Like I told u before... It's better u accept we have no idea how humans or life or even the universe started than to make up and incompetent confused being in ur head and become this made up beings spokes man.
But we know chance or random acts can’t possibly generate order!
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by OkaiCorne(m): 4:46am On Jul 13, 2018
M0ron:

But we know chance or random acts can’t possibly generate order!


It'll be nice to see an atheist using logic to counter this.

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Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by michaelwestern(m): 12:22pm On Jul 13, 2018
chemystery:

Lol. He even knows what god can do and what god can't. How sweet! First christian to be honest enough to admit there is something god can't do. That's a good start man.

It doesn't mean that God cannot change the minds of people forcefully but He who chooses to give everybody a free will. So God doesn't relate to us as robots.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by michaelwestern(m): 12:35pm On Jul 13, 2018
frank317:


The way u guys talk sometimes...

If I tell u I was with Donald Trump yesterday I am sure most of u will start asking a lot of questions just because Donald is the president of USA. A lot will not take me serious, many will dig into the said conversation and ask reasonable questions just to be sure I am not lying. Many will want to know my history, what I do for a living and how I even got Donald's contact.

But u people freely open ur mouth to say you spoke with the creator and when asked same questions u would ask me if I told u I spoke with Trump, the questioner becomes labeled.

Making claim that u spoke to the creator is a huge claim. Much bigger than I claiming I spoke with Trump. It requires a huge prove. If u can't prove it better not say it rather make flimsy excuses when asked to prove ur claim.

If God exists... Speaking with him (given the way the world has been as we know it) would be one of the greatest phenomena to happen amongst us. Such individual must definitely poses certain characteristics like ability to fly, tell the future or even not die.

If I can't be just ordinary to see trump, u definitely can't be just supernatural to speak with the creator. U need to be extrasuperordinary to do this.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys take the God u claim to worship for granted. Look around you. Look at the heavens, study the galaxies and other planets, look at the sun, the endless universe, the moon, humans and everything under the water. Imagine how long the earth must have existed and how many people have lived on earth. now u tell me u speak with the creator of all these?

Please we are no kids here, don't joke with our intelligence.

It is God himself that made it easy for man to speak with Him. And that goes to show the kind of love that God has for us. Why not serve a God that good and generous?
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by chemystery: 2:16pm On Jul 13, 2018
michaelwestern:


It doesn't mean that God cannot change the minds of people forcefully but He who chooses to give everybody a free will. So God doesn't relate to us as robots.
Is your god different from the one that hardened Pharaoh's mind so that he can go about on killing rampage?

Also, does your god send people to a place of eternal torture for using the gift of freewill? If Yes, then that's not free will!
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by michaelwestern(m): 3:54pm On Jul 13, 2018
chemystery:

Is your god different from the one that hardened Pharaoh's mind so that he can go about on killing rampage?

Also, does your god send people to a place of eternal torture for using the gift of freewill? If Yes, then that's not free will!

Giving you free will doesn't mean that there are no consequences to your actions. With free will comes the responsibility of making the right choices. And the Holy Spirits always convicts sinners whenever the gospel is preached, so deciding to ignore the conviction of Spirit leaves you without excuse.

Take You for example, you have the opportunity of avoiding eternal torture simply by accepting Jesus Christ, no money or work involved but you choose to be arguing about free will and pharoah.
Re: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by chemystery: 4:54pm On Jul 13, 2018
michaelwestern:


Giving you free will doesn't mean that there are no consequences to your actions. With free will comes the responsibility of making the right choices. And the Holy Spirits always convicts sinners whenever the gospel is preached, so deciding to ignore the conviction of Spirit leaves you without excuse.
And when you take it as a responsibility to punish those whom you have given free will just for not making the choice that you yourself want, will you still term that as free will? There is a wide difference between "consequence of making the wrong choice" and "punishment from making the wrong choice". The latter and "free will" should not even by any means be mentioned in the same sentence, paragraph or even page.


Take You for example, you have the opportunity of avoiding eternal torture simply by accepting Jesus Christ, no money or work involved but you choose to be arguing about free will and pharoah.
Also take for example, if a robber comes to your house and says "Hey, your life or you money", then in the processes of arguing with the robber, he shut you dead. But when arraigned before court, the judge gave his final ruling that you were given free choice to obey the robber and live, or disobey him and die. That in fact, the robber didn't murder you but you have on your own chosen to die. Now this is exactly how your god has packaged the gift of freewill for you.

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