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Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Abdulnur(m): 6:02pm On Jun 27, 2018
Allwility:
This is an interesting piece coming from you TechCapon and its gives another insight to the impending trade war between the US and China. However I'm of a different opinion as per the outcome of a full scale trade war.

Firstly, I don't think Chinese companies will be the eventual losers in this case. Yes China may lose market share, obviously because the US is a major trading partner, but they will source for new customers. South East Asia, Latin America, SSA and MENA are other market options that could be readily developed. Also, even if Google play is eventually removed from ZTE phones, that will make ZTE come up with its own services and possibly OS! I wouldn't estimate a country that came up with weibo, wechat, baidu and alibaba. Besides, I dont think Google Apps work in China. My point is a total ban on Chinese Techs will only make them innovate and create better products. Remember, Fanta was born in Germany because there was no trade between Nazi Germany and the US during WW2 and people couldn't get to drink Coca Cola.

Secondly, Nigeria and other countries can benefit from the trade war by increasing their technological know-how. If Nigeria can develop as much as India iand create technology clusters we could become an outsourcing hotspot instead of any of the two warring parties.

My humble take.

You missed op's point.
He said when two elephant's fight, the grass/ground suffers.
China may not give lot of bleep as we are to give.
China produce phones, utilize them to work on(not with) america technology.
If trump ban selling of goods to china, Google is withdrawing its android os from all the tecno, infinix, Itel, gionee etc., meaning that your Itel( just kidding) is as good as Nokia106.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by theapeman4: 6:04pm On Jun 27, 2018
Abdulnur:


Google a business huh?

When registering a business in Nigeria, you are bounded by rules laid by the ministry of commerce right.
If a shit hole can do this, tell me what the US will demand before registering your business?

Just hope the Trump dude don't go ahead with his up side down thought.
I see many of ya got this wrong!

And those cave men who quoted me got this wrong!


Do you know the Major business of google is selling there os to phone manufacturers! Even the most useless phone can optain an android os license from google no matter the phone! Same with Microsoft windows.

So by opposing these ban of zte oppo Hawaii and some Chinese phones doesn't mean that they can't buy Google 0s and the Trump administrator can't stop google for giving out his os license to those company undecided


What trump actually did was banning the sell of these phones to military personnel and other located area around America!

Back to Nigeria! Rather China will see this as an opportunity to sell there phones to Nigeria at cheaper rate.

You people should start using ya head pls
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by keentola(m): 6:07pm On Jun 27, 2018
JustCalMeDBoss:
funny enough it pays countries such as Nigeria for Chinese products to be banned. they would embrace Africa.
China has already embraced Africa continent, it is pumping so much money into Africa's economy than most European nations combined.

And whether US likes it or not, China is going to be the next super power
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by akaahs(m): 6:08pm On Jun 27, 2018
mrvitalis:
How long do you think it would take China to develop and os to compete with android?

Java went we no die
Symbian went we no die
Bb os went we no die

Android would go and another better and faster would replace it
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by theapeman4: 6:08pm On Jun 27, 2018
Emeskhalifa:

Smh go and think again. What will happen wen google becoming inaccessible on Chinese phones
brother! It can't happen!

Google is a private enterprise not public.

Use your brain to think in The line of business
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by akaahs(m): 6:10pm On Jun 27, 2018
mrvitalis:
How long do you think it would take China to develop and os to compete with android?

Java went we no die
Symbian went we no die
Bb os went we no die

Android would go and another better and faster would replace it
I guess d opp is not aware that there is an OS develop by d Chinese
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jun 27, 2018
TechCapon:
Funny, I just think he's being paranoid.
You don't sound intelligent, you so emotional. The whole thing you wrote up there i didn't for ones see a point, you just typed how you feel. You didn't even state the reasons for Trump's policy and how it will effect China and how China would do to avoid it. I see you hate Republicans government.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Emeskhalifa(m): 6:11pm On Jun 27, 2018
theapeman4:
brother! It can't happen!

Google is a private enterprise not public.

Use your brain to think in The line of business


I dan keep qwayet Sir. *lips sealed*
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Jakasibo:
I thought Trump is a peace maker?
Yeah, media is painting him dark, op is number one.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Yoshy: 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Sanmij:
aliexpress

I guess you stay in Lagos?
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 6:23pm On Jun 27, 2018
TechCapon:
@TechCapon



A major trade war looms between the United States and China as US president Donald trump is poised to ensure that China doesn’t overtake the US as the world’s leading technology country. The trump administration has dealt heavy blows on Chinese biggest tech companies by imposing bans, fines and restrictions. If this battle for supremacy continues, very soon Chinese tech products including phones will not be able to enter the US and US tech products will not be able to enter China. No doubt China will suffer more damage than the US if it comes to that and we pray it doesn’t! A very serious tech revolution is going on in China as it is making huge plans to become the world’s leader in technology by the year 2025 and Trump said he is determined to protect American technology. Here I’ll be discussing the 5 ways trump is sabotaging the Chinese technology.



1. Plans to Restrict tech exports to China.

Although most American companies are not happy with it because it will reduce their sales, Trump is not backing down from the plan. He is more concerned that valuable tech secrets will be leaked to China via trade deals as China is already making big advances using American technology. We’ve seen Chinese phones already competing with the iPhone and lenovo is seriously competing with Dell, lol. The trump administration has made it clear of it’s desires to protect American technology but the companies such as Qualcomm and Intel are more concerned about their profits. China is their biggest market outside the US.



2. Accusing the Chinese phone companies of spying.

Trump has made it clear that Huawei and ZTE are security threats to the US as their devices are being used to spy on Americans and send sensitive information to Beijing. Although there’s no proof of these allegations, it has seriously affected the market value of Huawei and their Chinese counterparts in the United States as citizens no longer trust them. Huawei is Chinese second largest smartphone manufacturers after Xaiomi while ZTE is the fourth largest.



3. Placing a ban on ZTE.

US companies have also been banned from selling any hardware or software components to ZTE for 7 years for violating US sanctions on Iran and North Korea. If ZTE fails to settle with the US government, it’s Android smartphone business is as good as dead because it depends on chips from Intel, Microsoft and Qualcomm to make their phones. Google play services will also be removed from their phones and it will be almost impossible to sell an android phone without Google play services. Apple has a lot to loose if China retaliates to this move because it sold over 46 billion dollars worth of iPhone in China and Taiwan. That’s a lot of money to loose if China bans apple from selling in their country.

4. Plans to stop Chinese firms from acquiring US TECH companies.

A new policy is being prepared to ban Chinese companies from acquiring US companies with significant technology. With this new policy in place, it will be impossible for Chinese companies to acquire any US phone or Tech company. Recall that Lenovo acquired Motorola, a US phone maker and other Chinese firms have already made other acquisitions in the US. Trump is determined to block any further acquisitions thereby frustrating Chinese Tech companies from taking advantage of American technology.



5. Placing high tariffs on Chinese imported products into the US.

President Trump’s tariffs on Chinese goods will go into effect on 6th of July. The tariffs will target mainly technology products from China such as smartphones, laptops and other products. This tariffs will cause a huge inflation on Chinese goods coming into the US that consumers will be forced to look for other alternatives. I just pity companies like Walmart who import billions of dollars worth of Chinese goods.



Who will win this battle, USA or China ?

When two elephants are fighting, it’s the grass that suffers. Citizens and companies of both sides are going to loose big time! Ultimately,the same American companies Trump is trying to protect will suffer heavy loses. Huawei, ZTE and other phone makers in China buy chips worth billions of dollars from Qualcomm, Intel. That market share will be lost as they’ll look for other sources to get their chips. If China responds by banning America products, Apple, Microsoft, Ford, etc will lost a huge market share as well. Chinese companies doing business in the US will also suffer. If this war escalates and America decides to ban all forms of trade with China, there will be no Chinese android phones anymore because America owns Google and Google owns android. The US government can force Google not to licence the android OS to Chinese phone makers anymore, Facebook Twitter, Instagram, Whatsapp SnapChat, YouTube and so on will also withdraw their support for Chinese phones.

How does it affect Nigerians?

It will affect Nigerians very well, infact this is a great nightmare no one ever wish to imagine. Our beloved Tecno, Infinix, Gionee, Xiaomi , Itel etc will be greatly affected and it will be the end of affordable smartphones in Nigeria. What happened to Blackberry will most certainly happen to them. Imagine waking up one morning to hear that Google has withdrawn support for Chinese phones and the phone will just be useless, not completely useless because at least by then you can still be able to make and receive phone calls. Lol! Where will the average Nigerian youth get money for HTC, LG, Sony, Samsung and iPhone ? Let’s just hope it doesn’t get to that and China and USA reaches an agreement really soon because China will not fold it’s hands and watch USA frustrating it’s top Tech companies.

Do you think Trump is right with all these sanctions or he is just being paranoid ? Tell us in the comment section

SOURCE:http://techcapon.com/5-ways-president-trump-is-frustrating-chinese-tech-companies/

his making a big mistake, if there isn't whatsapp China would upgrade "wechat",A new and better kind of facebook would come to play, China would surely make their own IOS systems.... It's only the United States that wants to be left apart in globalization,as an adage says "no man is an island"....the US better be careful.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by dawtune(m): 6:40pm On Jun 27, 2018
erico2k2:

Iphones??

IPhone is made in China and Taiwan. Apple as a company has not made a single product, ever. Prove me wrong. They only invest in R&grin, they don't manufacture. Foxconn, a company in Taiwan with large presence in China makes iPhone.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by LeakPlug(m): 6:43pm On Jun 27, 2018
TechCapon:
@TechCapon



A major trade war looms between the United States and China as US president Donald trump is poised to ensure that China doesn’t overtake the US as the world’s leading technology country. The trump administration has dealt heavy blows on Chinese biggest tech companies by imposing bans, fines and restrictions. If this battle for supremacy continues, very soon Chinese tech products including phones will not be able to enter the US and US tech products will not be able to enter China. No doubt China will suffer more damage than the US if it comes to that and we pray it doesn’t! A very serious tech revolution is going on in China as it is making huge plans to become the world’s leader in technology by the year 2025 and Trump said he is determined to protect American technology. Here I’ll be discussing the 5 ways trump is sabotaging the Chinese technology.



1. Plans to Restrict tech exports to China.

Although most American companies are not happy with it because it will reduce their sales, Trump is not backing down from the plan. He is more concerned that valuable tech secrets will be leaked to China via trade deals as China is already making big advances using American technology. We’ve seen Chinese phones already competing with the iPhone and lenovo is seriously competing with Dell, lol. The trump administration has made it clear of it’s desires to protect American technology but the companies such as Qualcomm and Intel are more concerned about their profits. China is their biggest market outside the US.



2. Accusing the Chinese phone companies of spying.

Trump has made it clear that Huawei and ZTE are security threats to the US as their devices are being used to spy on Americans and send sensitive information to Beijing. Although there’s no proof of these allegations, it has seriously affected the market value of Huawei and their Chinese counterparts in the United States as citizens no longer trust them. Huawei is Chinese second largest smartphone manufacturers after Xaiomi while ZTE is the fourth largest.



3. Placing a ban on ZTE.

US companies have also been banned from selling any hardware or software components to ZTE for 7 years for violating US sanctions on Iran and North Korea. If ZTE fails to settle with the US government, it’s Android smartphone business is as good as dead because it depends on chips from Intel, Microsoft and Qualcomm to make their phones. Google play services will also be removed from their phones and it will be almost impossible to sell an android phone without Google play services. Apple has a lot to loose if China retaliates to this move because it sold over 46 billion dollars worth of iPhone in China and Taiwan. That’s a lot of money to loose if China bans apple from selling in their country.

4. Plans to stop Chinese firms from acquiring US TECH companies.

A new policy is being prepared to ban Chinese companies from acquiring US companies with significant technology. With this new policy in place, it will be impossible for Chinese companies to acquire any US phone or Tech company. Recall that Lenovo acquired Motorola, a US phone maker and other Chinese firms have already made other acquisitions in the US. Trump is determined to block any further acquisitions thereby frustrating Chinese Tech companies from taking advantage of American technology.



5. Placing high tariffs on Chinese imported products into the US.

President Trump’s tariffs on Chinese goods will go into effect on 6th of July. The tariffs will target mainly technology products from China such as smartphones, laptops and other products. This tariffs will cause a huge inflation on Chinese goods coming into the US that consumers will be forced to look for other alternatives. I just pity companies like Walmart who import billions of dollars worth of Chinese goods.



Who will win this battle, USA or China ?

When two elephants are fighting, it’s the grass that suffers. Citizens and companies of both sides are going to loose big time! Ultimately,the same American companies Trump is trying to protect will suffer heavy loses. Huawei, ZTE and other phone makers in China buy chips worth billions of dollars from Qualcomm, Intel. That market share will be lost as they’ll look for other sources to get their chips. If China responds by banning America products, Apple, Microsoft, Ford, etc will lost a huge market share as well. Chinese companies doing business in the US will also suffer. If this war escalates and America decides to ban all forms of trade with China, there will be no Chinese android phones anymore because America owns Google and Google owns android. The US government can force Google not to licence the android OS to Chinese phone makers anymore, Facebook Twitter, Instagram, Whatsapp SnapChat, YouTube and so on will also withdraw their support for Chinese phones.

How does it affect Nigerians?

It will affect Nigerians very well, infact this is a great nightmare no one ever wish to imagine. Our beloved Tecno, Infinix, Gionee, Xiaomi , Itel etc will be greatly affected and it will be the end of affordable smartphones in Nigeria. What happened to Blackberry will most certainly happen to them. Imagine waking up one morning to hear that Google has withdrawn support for Chinese phones and the phone will just be useless, not completely useless because at least by then you can still be able to make and receive phone calls. Lol! Where will the average Nigerian youth get money for HTC, LG, Sony, Samsung and iPhone ? Let’s just hope it doesn’t get to that and China and USA reaches an agreement really soon because China will not fold it’s hands and watch USA frustrating it’s top Tech companies.

Do you think Trump is right with all these sanctions or he is just being paranoid ? Tell us in the comment section

SOURCE:http://techcapon.com/5-ways-president-trump-is-frustrating-chinese-tech-companies/


It would favour Africa because the price of phones like iPhone would drop as a result of the fall in demand from China hence they have to look for a market elsewhere. Its not entirely gloom.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by erico2k2(m): 6:43pm On Jun 27, 2018
dawtune:


IPhone is made in China and Taiwan. Apple as a company has not made a single product, ever. Prove me wrong. They only invest in R&grin, they don't manufacture. Foxconn, a company in Taiwan with large presence in China makes iPhone.
check the back plz, its made in California assembled in china.Look behind ur iPhone
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Abdulnur(m): 6:48pm On Jun 27, 2018
theapeman4:
I see many of ya got this wrong!

And those cave men who quoted me got this wrong!


Do you know the Major business of google is selling there os to phone manufacturers! Even the most useless phone can optain an android os license from google no matter the phone! Same with Microsoft windows.

So by opposing these ban of zte oppo Hawaii and some Chinese phones doesn't mean that they can't buy Google 0s and the Trump administrator can't stop google for giving out his os license to those company undecided


What trump actually did was banning the sell of these phones to military personnel and other located area around America!

Back to Nigeria! Rather China will see this as an opportunity to sell there phones to Nigeria at cheaper rate.

You people should start using ya head pls

Did you just said Trump CAN'T?
I quit, you win.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Yeeyo: 6:51pm On Jun 27, 2018
SarkinYarki:
A good president will always put the great interest of his country first!!!!!!
Not the kind of president that is always given fulani herdsmen matching oder to b killing inocent citizen
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by dawtune(m): 6:57pm On Jun 27, 2018
This is something most people are not aware of. China is a manufacturing technology powerhouse, you just cannot take it away from them. It would surprise you that almost all your gadgets, from your theatre system to your laptops, wearables including those American-made gadgets (IPhone et al) were all made in China.


American companies are proficient in Research and Development. When they are done with R&D, they send their specs as a form of outsourcing to their preferred Chinese-owned companies to manufacture for them. They do this basically because of the low cost of labour in China which ultimately results in cheap cost and big ROI for the American coys. A certain company FOXCONN based in Taiwan with the largest presence in China manufactures the iPhone and other products from companies such as Motorola, Samsung, Acer, Phillips etc. They work with their American and Western partners with utmost secrecy , in enclosed and private warehouses to avoid leaking specs. There are several companies in China that manufactures products for the American and Western Coys.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by dawtune(m): 7:03pm On Jun 27, 2018
erico2k2:

check the back plz, its made in California assembled in china.Look behind ur iPhone

Nah, they only do the designing in Cali, they don't manufacture. Read up my post on this thread.

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Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by dawtune(m): 7:04pm On Jun 27, 2018
erico2k2:

check the back plz, its made in California assembled in china.Look behind ur iPhone

Nah, they only do the designing in Cali, they don't manufacture. Read up my post on this thread or better still, google up FOXCONN..
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Felixv: 8:16pm On Jun 27, 2018
the Americans are trying to protect their industries and jobs --this is what china is trying to destroy.

Nigerians on the other hand ,need to start making their own stuff --but with a government that wastes money on stupid things like running cost -I don't see the country investing in home grown technology.

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Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 8:16pm On Jun 27, 2018
SarkinYarki:
A good president will always put the great interest of his country first!!!!!!

Like your gworo munching president buwari.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 8:27pm On Jun 27, 2018
You insult China by thinking that Android alternative can not be developed by the Chinese. The Chinese are unstoppable, they have alternatives to facebook, twitter, google etc and is it a MobileOS that is an impossibility ?

I can assure you that within a year, the Chinese will launch their OS, and Nigeria will benefit more at the long run as Nigeria is an emerging economy.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Folksyharry(m): 8:46pm On Jun 27, 2018
Felixv:
the Americans are trying to protect their industries and jobs --this is what china is trying to destroy.

Nigerians on the other hand ,need to start making their own stuff --but with a government that wastes money on stupid things like running cost -I don't see the country investing in home grown technology.

Exactly. Both countries are trying to protect themselves. Nigeria should start taking this route. When we start manufacturing things like other countries people will take us seriously when we make economic policies.
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jun 27, 2018
Those Idiots quoting the whole post on the first page just to reply in one sentence have 2kb worth of grey matter in their head...
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:25pm On Jun 27, 2018
dermmy:
US the leader in global spying would always accuse China and Russia of cyber espionage.

they are all partners in crime

And they all accuse each other of what they are doing
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:27pm On Jun 27, 2018
theapeman4:
rubbish write up! undecided

Use your brain to think! There is no way it will affect Africa as a whole but rather an opportunity to crash the price of these Chinese phone coming to Africa, because China will switch her trade zone to Africa undecided


Use your Brain for once in a while!



Mind ya google is also a product and it plays no vital rule in this!

Why is common sense not so common any longer undecided

what you wrote made no sense

Are you sure that you understand the post at all?
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:32pm On Jun 27, 2018
tjones007:
I know most people will be skeptical about this news, but this war has been happening for a while trump just have the balls to make some shots. remember the Facebook censoring in china, google china problems etc. china thinks because of their population they can impose their products on other countries while boycotting other countries products as an act of communism.

If Nigeria had been technological inclined with the brilliant minds in the country. we won't be bothered.

You have a point tho

I hear Facebook is banned in China (I don't know why tho)
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:35pm On Jun 27, 2018
flyca:
Come to China

Whatapp -Banned
You must use their own App called Wechat

YouTube - Banned
You must use their own App called Youku

Google - Banned
You must use their own App called Baidu

Twitter - Banned
You must use their own App called Weibo

And the list goes on. China too has been playing their own politics. No be today.

You block mine, I ban yours!
I stand with Trump!

This makes sense


China banned all these products

but my question os why
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:42pm On Jun 27, 2018
KratosCorp:
Go and check the trade deficit between the US and China,.then come back and review your assertions. China (and other countries - especially Europe) have been taking advantage of American leniency for decades. But Trump is saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Deal with the US fairly of get the bleep off the table.


but let's be serious tho....

America got into that corner because they lost their competitiveness

America is also a protectionist country too, but their products (minus tech and entertainment) can't compete with the others


Look at their automobile industry for example
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by Ugosample(m): 10:49pm On Jun 27, 2018
keentola:

China has already embraced Africa continent, it is pumping so much money into Africa's economy than most European nations combined.

And whether US likes it or not, China is going to be the next super power

China can't be the next super power bro

It's not gonna happen

What we will have are power blocs and not world power

And you think the Chinese in Africa are here because they love you

Only if you knew
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by ezewealth(m): 11:57pm On Jun 27, 2018
donb06:
oboy google no be US based Company?...
Goggle is a private company, US has nothing to do with it as far as they are paying tax
Re: Trump Is Frustrating Chinese Tech Companies And See How It May Affect Nigerians by ezewealth(m): 12:16am On Jun 28, 2018
Abdulnur:


You missed op's point.
He said when two elephant's fight, the grass/ground suffers.
China may not give lot of bleep as we are to give.
China produce phones, utilize them to work on(not with) america technology.
If trump ban selling of goods to china, Google is withdrawing its android os from all the tecno, infinix, Itel, gionee etc., meaning that your Itel( just kidding) is as good as Nokia106.
Then tell me who will lose more, google or china. Google is a private profit oriented company, they wont even thing of it

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