noetic16:

and according to your highly esteemed self. . .OLA's case should be dismissed because he has raised nothing against bush. . , .dude, are u for real?

I am not asking for his 'case' to be dismissed- his 'crusade' against Obama is puzzling, since nothing he is accusing Obama of is new - why the focus on Obama as if he promised to be a 'Christian' president and not simply the president of America?

There is no 'Obama deception' - he is doing what all other US presidents have done, no different.

Where are his threads on Sarkozy, Cameron (where he lives) and Putin/Medvedeev?

illusion2:



One more proof that it is easer for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for some people to ever see another point of view. . . .

Whether AntiChrist or AntiChrist[b]s[/b],everything points to CONSPIRACY THEORIES !!!

The final part of my posts you should FOCUS ON

To you and other Obama supporters it is conspiracy theories. The Bible has predicted of this kind of attitude in the last days:

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they are willingly ignorant of . . . " 2 Peter 3:3-5 you can read till the end.

So, it is my advise that you get acquainted with the first coming of Christ so that you will not have to contend with His second Coming.

Mudley313:

Mr. OLAADEGBU, google conspiracy "nut-jobs" to better understand the lunacy that plagues the alex jones and no-life-having peeps that espouse all of these conspiracy bullcrap in the US. From the bogus illuminaty claims to how obama is kenyan born to how 9/11's an inside job. All that demented rockerfeller/new world order/secret society claims are just one way white-supremacist losers at life uses to convince themselves of how one of their arch enemies next to blacks, The Jews, somehow controls the world satanically (just like their hero hitler did prior to WWII and the gas chambers). Its one thing to be on the fringe with these lunatics who think the world is controlled by some lizard people but it's just bat-sh1t crazy for a black african to be vigorously promoting these fear theories with mostly racist agendas. don't worry, obama is an anti-christ with intent to take over the world someday like lex luger the villian character in superman. . .hope that helps you sleep better at night




OLAADEGBU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

These are the kind of recruits that will fight to eliminate those christians left behind.

debosky:

I am not asking for his 'case' to be dismissed- his 'crusade' against Obama is puzzling, since nothing he is accusing Obama of is new - why the focus on Obama as if he promised to be a 'Christian' president and not simply the president of America?

There is no 'Obama deception' - he is doing what all other US presidents have done, no different.

Where are his threads on Sarkozy, Cameron (where he lives) and Putin/Medvedeev?

I hope you also support Ophrah Winfrey because she is black?

OLAADEGBU:

These are the kind of recruits that will fight to eliminate those christians left behind.

you're living in utter delusion, its not even funny

OLAADEGBU:

I hope you also support Ophrah Winfrey because she is black?

yet another attack on another successful black person in today's america, where 50 years ago the black man (like yourself) couldn't even vote, by our friend uncle thomas. with coons like you the kkk doesn't need to put any efforts in their works. atleast oprah has done way more to help the less privileged (like your blonde blue eyed god, jesus, espoused) and in philanthropic works (even in your own africa) than all your tithe collecting, private jet flying MOG combined

your racist white masters must be oh so proud of you

OLAADEGBU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Moogley or Muttley or muttface - I think you are the racist and if you have a problem with white people you can go back to the hole where you were born!!

notsure:

Moogley or Muttley or muttface - I think you are the racist and if you have a problem with white people you can go back to the hole where you were born!!

go back to the relationship forum, we don't need your kind here. ol pathetic "i'm in love with a scammer who previously duped me" delusional white lady with serious self-esteem issues. you must be short on your prescription meds tonight. . .and pls stop e-stalking me, you nut case

Mudley313:

go back to the relationship forum, we don't need your kind here. ol pathetic "i'm in love with a scammer who previously duped me" delusional white lady with serious self-esteem issues. you must be short on your prescription meds tonight. . .and pls stop e-stalking me, you nut case

@Olaagbedu,

OLAADEGBU:

I hope you also support Ophrah Winfrey because she is black?

I wanted to yab you but I'm in a good mood this morning.

debosky:

I am not asking for his 'case' to be dismissed- his 'crusade' against Obama is puzzling, since nothing he is accusing Obama of is new - why the focus on Obama as if he promised to be a 'Christian' president and not simply the president of America?

There is no 'Obama deception' - he is doing what all other US presidents have done, no different.

Where are his threads on Sarkozy, Cameron (where he lives) and Putin/Medvedeev?

are u this dumb? all u have done above is to express ur opinion. . .just like OLA has done . . . . whats the difference between both assertions? at least OLA presented documented facts. . . but u just come here to bombard us with innuendos and expect us to swallow such as facts. . . .I would excuse ur ignorance in this case

I am happy you know a few bible verses 

You are typical of NL 'christians' all google no spirit.

I thought you would open your Bible & check one (at least one!) of the numerous mis-interpreted Bible quotes I provided earlier ,but alas. .  .you have little time for such.

The verse you quoted is for you actually.

Focus on the WORD of GOD not conspiracies,because you CAN (& SURELY will) be deceived by them.

What is your BUSINESS if Obama is the Anti-Christ(s) ?

Is that your goal in life ? Have you ever sat down to ask yourself -"What is my purpose in life?"  "Why am I here?"

If indeed Obama is the Anti-Christ(s),then he's fulfilling his own part of scripture(which I doubt very much),why don't you focus on yours??

Laziness has hit the christian world.

Because you have such incoherent weblinks now suddenly makes you a Child of God ?

[size=18pt]"Study^{(not engage in gossip & lies)} to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
--2 Tim. 2:15. [/size]

noetic16:

are u this dumb? all u have done above is to express your opinion. . .just like OLA has done . . . . whats the difference between both assertions? at least OLA presented documented facts. . . but u just come here to bombard us with innuendos and expect us to swallow such as facts. . . .I would excuse your ignorance in this case

Come up with something original - If I have expressed my opinion, move on and stop playing defender of the universe.

I have not bombarded anything, all I have stated clearly is that there is no truth in the title - Obama, by virtue of being a US president is not deceiving anyone, but simply doing what all US presidents have done. The only ignorance on display here is an assumption that Obama would be any different from others before him.

debosky:

Come up with something original - If I have expressed my opinion, move on and stop playing defender of the universe.

I have not bombarded anything, all I have stated clearly is that there is no truth in the title - Obama, by virtue of being a US president is not deceiving anyone, but simply doing what all US presidents have done. The only ignorance on display here is an assumption that Obama would be any different from others before him.

did u see that documentary at all?

noetic16:

did u see that documentary at all? 

why would anyone wanna corrupt their minds with a deceptive documentary put together by white RACIST americans trying to discredit america's first BLACK presido. bro, get your mind right. . .lets go back to discussing RELIGION as this part of the forum entails instead of trying to help carry out the biddings of bitter RACIST peeps

Mudley313:

you're living in utter delusion, its not even funny

Is it not surprising that a deluded man would only see others but himself as deluded?

Mudley313:

yet another attack on another successful black person in today's america, where 50 years ago the black man (like yourself) couldn't even vote, by our friend uncle thomas. with coons like you the kkk doesn't need to put any efforts in their works. atleast oprah has done way more to help the less privileged (like your blonde blue eyed god, jesus, espoused) and in philanthropic works (even in your own africa) than all your tithe collecting, private jet flying MOG combined

I only touched you where your nerve is, knowing that your idols are the ones you worship. The KKK are equally as bad as your black panther or any other black racist group, your character goes before you as someone here has already accused you of being racist.

Mudley313:

your racist white masters must be oh so proud of you

It is the other way round, your masters like Charles Darwin and his disciples who inspired the idea of Eugenics that you passionately believe are the ones that will be proud of you, if they are not gnashing their teeth as we speak.

mrmayor:

I wanted to yab you but I'm in a good mood this morning.

Did I touch on a nerve? may your good mood last.

The KKK are equally as bad as your black panther or any other black racist group,

Wow! That is the most ridiculous and shameful thing i have heard on this forum. For a black man to say something like that is utterly shameful and sad. You should hang your head in shame and think of all the innocent 'negros' who where hung or burnt alive on crosses all over the american southern states for hundreds of years by white racist supremists. To say that the black panthers were equally as bad as the kkk shows just how brainwashed and deluded you are.

Bro, I hope that one day you will free yourself from the chains that bind you to your slavemasters religion.

illusion2:

I am happy you know a few bible verses 

You that know more bible verse why don't you go ahead and relate them to the topic at hand?

illusion2:

You are typical of NL 'christians' all google no spirit.

You that has the spirit (whatever that kind of spirit is only you can tell) why don't you tell us ignorant folks what the "spirit" (which is not the Spirit) is telling us, if it's relevant to the issue at hand?

illusion2:

I thought you would open your Bible & check one (at least one!) of the numerous mis-interpreted Bible quotes I provided earlier ,but alas. .  .you have little time for such.

Why would I want to waste my time to check on your "numerous mis-interpreted Bible quotes" when I have not finished reading the Bible verses that has not been interpreted privately?

illusion2:

The verse you quoted is for you actually.

That is the way I approach scriptures, I first apply them to myself to examine my faith to see whether I am still in the faith before I apply them to issues and it would be better if you can emulate the same approach.

illusion2:

Focus on the WORD of GOD not conspiracies,because you CAN (& SURELY will) be deceived by them.

Thank you for the advise, can you now watch the film and tell us how it applies to the WORD OF GOD? If not move on.

illusion2:

What is your BUSINESS if Obama is the Anti-Christ(s) ?

Can you show me where I claimed that Obama is the Anti-christ, and please explain to me how one person can be the Anti-christs? (plural).  Do you really know what you are talking about or do you need me to explain to you the differences between the Anti-christ and anti-christs?  All you need to do is just ask instead of diverting the topic.

illusion2:

Is that your goal in life ? Have you ever sat down to ask yourself -"What is my purpose in life?"  "Why am I here?"

My goal in life is to please God, what is yours?

illusion2:

If indeed Obama is the Anti-Christ(s),then he's fulfilling his own part of scripture(which I doubt very much),why don't you focus on yours??

It may be your own opinion that Obama is the Anti-christ "fulfilling his own part of scripture", mine is the great commission, to be a watchman alerting people of the imminent dangers of not taking advantage of first coming of Jesus Christ and also to edify the body of Christ encouraging ourselves as long as it is called today.

illusion2:

Laziness has hit the christian world.

Agreed.  Laziness that prevents folks from taking the time to watch the documentary film and investigating the allegations by themselves, they would rather join the bandwagon and wave it away as conspiracy theories without saying why they think so.

illusion2:

Because you have such incoherent weblinks now suddenly makes you a Child of God ?

Weblinks that you have not watched and if you claimed to have watched them can you list what you feel is not based on facts, that is, if you have investigated them.  This statement of yours makes me to wonder whether you really know what it means to be a child of God.

illusion2:

[size=18pt]"Study^{(not engage in gossip & lies)} to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
--2 Tim. 2:15. [/size]

I am not surprised that you specialise in adding to the Word of God as you just did above, it would be better if we all take the time to study the Word of God so as to discern the times that we are in.

Mudley313:

why would anyone wanna corrupt their minds with a deceptive documentary put together by white RACIST americans trying to discredit america's first BLACK presido. bro, get your mind right. . .lets go back to discussing RELIGION as this part of the forum entails instead of trying to help carry out the biddings of bitter RACIST peeps

Look at an atheist saying that we should go back to discussing RELIGION What religion do you want us to discuss, is it the secular humanists' religion or the "Christian" religion you want us to talk about? Why don't we start by talking about evolutionism which is a religion that propagates CAPITALISM, survival of the fittest I think that would be a good place to start.

For those who want to make informed decisions based on facts watch the documentary film here because the powers that be have seen the dangers of it exposing their plans and have therefore stopped it from working. In the film you find out that Obama is not the saviour of the people that he is made out to be but a frontman working global banking system (NWO) which is another form of slave masters. You will see that it is not just the black man that is being enslaved but financially we are being enslaved by the money masters who also funded the likes of Hitler and Stalin. Try and look pass the pawns and look for the kings that are behind the scenes.

And for those of you worshipping Obama try and investigate the allegations in the film and say no to tyranny because when the shit hits the fan you will all start crawling out of the woodwork running for cover.

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mantraa:

Wow! That is the most ridiculous and shameful thing i have heard on this forum. For a black man to say something like that is utterly shameful and sad. You should hang your head in shame and think of all the innocent 'negros' who where hung or burnt alive on crosses all over the american southern states for hundreds of years by white racist supremists. To say that the black panthers were equally as bad as the kkk shows just how brainwashed and deluded you are.

Bro, I hope that one day you will free yourself from the chains that bind you to your slavemasters religion.

I guess you are too young to know what your heroes such as Charles Darwin had to say about the Negroes.

MY heroes are the black role models (male and female) who have managed to rise above all the oppression and deluded uncle toms like you to achieve something positive in this life.

Obama is someone that you should be proud of. There are hundreds if not thousands of conspiracy theories out there on the internet about many people. Dont allow yourself to be deluded. Rise above it and be proud of what black people are finally starting to achieve again.

Try to release those chains that bind you. I know it will be hard for you, but you can do it. At the end of the day we are all Africans, and civilisation began in Africa. You dont need your slavemasters religion anymore. You need to let it go, and rediscover who you are brother.

Here are the quotes of your racist slavemasters whose philosophies you now espouse:

“At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break will then be rendered wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.” -- Charles Darwin

“No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favor, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites.” -- Thomas Huxley

“The Negroid stock is even more ancient than the Caucasian and Mongolians, as may be proved by an examination not only of the brain, of the hair, of the bodily characteristics , but of the instincts, the intelligence. The standard of intelligence of the average adult Negro is similar to that of the eleven-year-old-youth of the species Homo sapiens.” -- Henry Fairfield Osborn  

These quotes and more are the real reason your heroes took it a step further and carried out what is called EUGENICS, the act of cleansing out people groups they considered inferior, and here you are saying you evolved from an animal, why then should you feel insulted if someone calls you a monkey?

[img width=500 height=500]http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/media/cartoons/after-eden/20090925.gif[/img]

The true fact is that Charles Darwin, Thomas Huxley, Henry Fairfield Osborn, Abraham Lincoln, Issac Newton, Michael faraday, Albert Einstein and all the other great scientists are descended from our ancestors. They are all children of AFRICANS. Stand up and Be proud of who you are as an African.   You are not inferior to anyone on this planet and you dont need the god of your slavemasters religion to 'save' you. Wake up!!

President Barack Obama is a great black man, but he is only human and is trying his best to make a positive difference in this world. I suggest you read his autobiography 'Dreams from my father' or 'The audacity of hope'. You can download the audiobook version and listen instead.

Its never too late for you my brother. Someone once said 'you must worship and obey god like a slave obeys his slavemaster'. It seems like you are doing both 
You are not a slave to your masters religion anymore.

mantraa:

The true fact is that Charles Darwin, Thomas Huxley, Henry Fairfield Osborn, Abraham Lincoln, Issac Newton, Michael faraday, Albert Einstein and all the other great scientists are descended from our ancestors. They are all children of AFRICANS. Stand up and Be proud of who you are as an African. You are not inferior to anyone on this planet and you dont need the god of your slavemasters religion to 'save' you. Wake up!!

Here you go again using the usual tactics of generalising to reduce the impact. I quoted your atheist evolutionist heroes and not real scientist like Isaac Newton, Faraday etc. Your models such as Charles Darwin who was born on the same day as Abraham Lincoln, have brainwashed you into thinking that Africa is the human cradle but if you read between the lines you will discover that they are saying indirectly that you are the closest to the apes (animals) and that the caucasian have gone through an advanced form of evolution and they throw a banana in your hand for you to be happy about. No matter how far you go in the atheist religion you will always make you second best because you have been brainwashed into accepting their demonic philosopy. Go and read their quotes again to enlighten yourself and see that you have been duped, the Bible says that Eve is the mother of all living, you either believe the words of sinful men or the infallible Word of God there is no two ways about it.

mantraa:

President Barack Obama is a great black man, but he is only human and is trying his best to make a positive difference in this world. I suggest you read his autobiography 'Dreams from my father' or 'The audacity of hope'. You can download the audiobook version and listen instead.

President Obama is a "great black man" who cannot do anything apart from what he is told to do, his hands are tied and if he dares to go against the powers that installed him he will become history like John Kennedy.

mantraa:

Its never too late for you my brother. Someone once said 'you must worship and obey god like a slave obeys his slavemaster'. It seems like you are doing both
You are not a slave to your masters religion anymore.

While you are seeing others being enslaved by religion you have forgotten that your country is a slave to these money masters who know how you think and now that they have installed a black face they calculated well that instead of people revolting they would begin to cry Uhuru, their saviour has come and the few countries that have not bitten the dust will be the wiser if they took heed.

OLAADEGBU,I have taken time(wasted time I might add) to listen to the 'Obama Deception' and it just as I had thought.

Its full of innuendos,half-truths & false assumptions.

Its the same lies & deceits been peddled by the 'Tea party' movement.

I have listed at least 5 such conspiracies that have existed since the 70s.

These consipracies can never point at anything,but at the same time accuse everyone.

Obama will likely win a second term and bow out in 2016 to relative obscurity(like  Bill Clinton,George Bush and all previous 'NWO' agents ).

Nothing will ever change ,but the conspiracies will continue.

Bush & Blair had strong 'christian' beliefs and invaded Iraq(a country that had almost ONE MILLION CHRISTIANS) at the moment a christian population  of less than 200,000 resides there due to this 'moral' invasion.

Like I have admonished you,STUDY !!! Don't waste your time on all these nonsense.

You don't have any inkling on politics in America.

I won't waste my time on this thread again.

illusion2:

OLAADEGBU,I have taken time(wasted time I might add) to listen to the 'Obama Deception' and it just as I had thought.

Its full of innuendos,half-truths & false assumptions.

Its the same lies & deceits been peddled by the 'Tea party' movement.

I have listed at least 5 such conspiracies that have existed since the 70s.

These consipracies can never point at anything,but at the same time accuse everyone.

Obama will likely win a second term and bow out in 2016 to relative obscurity(like Bill Clinton,George Bush and all previous 'NWO' agents ).

Nothing will ever change ,but the conspiracies will continue.

Bush & Blair had strong 'christian' beliefs and invaded Iraq(a country that had almost ONE MILLION CHRISTIANS) at the moment a christian population of less than 200,000 resides there due to this 'moral' invasion.

Like I have admonished you,STUDY !!! Don't waste your time on all these nonsense.

You don't have any inkling on politics in America.

I won't waste my time on this thread again.

Good that you have listed at least 5 conspiracy theories, what are these lies, half truths, innuendos and false assumptions if I may ask, have you done your own investigation on them and how do they relate to bible prophecies? The fact that you are saying that past presidents did similar things is obvious if you watched the documentary. If after you have done your research and arrived at the same conclusion that you started off with then you are entitled to your own opinion, but if you are saying that others should study then show us by taking the lead.

I promised not to comment again ,but I just couldn't help it

Check this nonsense - I'm quoting the conspirators (^{notice how they link seemingly unrelated events & come to a conclusion}) -

"Alqaeda is run by the CIA(^{which has been in existence before Obama was born}),they are destabilising Africa including Kenya.

Kenya is being run by Obama's 'relative' called Odinga (^{kenya PM from Obama's dad's tribe but no blood relation} ),Odinga has 2 children -one called Raul (^{like castro's brother}),the other called Winnie -after winnie mandela- the woman that led a kidnapping ring in South Africa. And Obama's cousin (Odinga') is sponsoring Islamofacists in Somalia !!!

Now tell me how does this make ANY sense??

Somehow,Obama 'sponsored' Odinga (a Born again christian much older than him) ,to win the elections in Kenya,so he could 'aid' the terrorists in Somalia !!!

I tell you again - Be wise ! These are POLITICIANS playing mind games.

illusion2:

I promised not to comment again ,but I just couldn't help it

Check this nonsense - I'm quoting the conspirators (^{notice how they link seemingly unrelated events & come to a conclusion}) -

"Alqaeda is run by the CIA(^{which has been in existence before Obama was born}),they are destabilising Africa including Kenya.

Kenya is being run by Obama's 'relative' called Odinga (^{kenya PM from Obama's dad's tribe but no blood relation} ),Odinga has 2 children -one called Raul (^{like castro's brother}),the other called Winnie -after winnie mandela- the woman that led a kidnapping ring in South Africa. And Obama's cousin (Odinga') is sponsoring Islamofacists in Somalia !!!

Now tell me how does this make ANY sense??

Somehow,Obama 'sponsored' Odinga (a Born again christian much older than him) ,to win the elections in Kenya,so he could 'aid' the terrorists in Somalia !!!

I tell you again - Be wise ! These are POLITICIANS playing mind games.

Now that you brought up Odinga I decided to dig up some dirt on him and this is what I found

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If this is what you call born again then Hitler can be said to be born again.

Because its on youtube doesn't make it the gospel my friend.

Here are a few youtube videos as well,I wonder whether you think they are telling the truth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pyzj6vtibs&hl=en_GB&fs=1[/flash]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHCxl-5a0A&hl=en_GB&fs=1[/flash]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qjVrf1xtsQ&hl=en_GB&fs=1[/flash]


In closing there's a guy on youtube called gorrila199 ,he has a trukload of consipiracies you'll enjoy.

Later on google him to know what became of him .

@illusion2,

What has the videoclips you posted got to do with the topic at hand? You said that Odinga is born again and I posted an interview aired by a television network that alleged that Odinga was anything but born again and instead for you to refute this allegation with facts you resorted to posting irrelevant videoclips. Is that how you conduct your own investigation? If you are to post any controversial clip why not post the ones related to Obama like the one posted below and then let us proceed to find out whether there is any truth to it or not.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TMKUea87E&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1[/flash]

Some serious allegations where made here which gives you an opportunity to utilise your technical and spiritual discernment to decipher the truth from lies.

OLAADEGBU:

@illusion2,
What has the videoclips you posted got to do with the topic at hand? You said that Odinga is born again and I posted an interview aired by a television network that [size=28pt]alleged[/size] that Odinga was anything but born again and instead for you to refute this allegation with facts you resorted to posting irrelevant videoclips.

Allegations don't amount to facts.

For example,I can allege you are actually 'becomrich' in disguise 

The bottom line is don't focus on allegations 9because ANYBODY can alledge ANYTHING),spend time on the TRUTH - THE WORD OF GOD !

Only the truth will set you  free. . . .  .not allegations.

illusion2:

Allegations don't amount to facts.

For example,I can allege you are actually 'becomrich' in disguise

The bottom line is don't focus on allegations 9because ANYBODY can alledge ANYTHING),spend time on the TRUTH - THE WORD OF GOD !

Only the truth will set you free. . . . .not allegations.

I said "allege" so as to give you the opportunity to do some research but I guess that you are not too keen on investigation, are you?