damosky12:



It becomes drab and petulant when you guys uncritically scream "tithe payers money" anytime a pastor buys an expensive car, house, gives money out, etc.

Does being a pastor sentence a man to being poor? After all, this man is a pastor to thousands of people, some of which are rich people who give to him WILLINGLY in accordance to the Bible.

Galatians 6:6
[6]Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
[13]Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
[14]Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

You should also know that when these people give to their pastors either in money or things, they give big, several times, in tens and a few times in hundreds of millions of naira...

These things legally and biblically belong to these pastors... They break absolutely no law when they spend from these things..

Its sounds silly and childish when we begin to scream "tithe payers money" at all time..

Tundeobama:

which law case did Osinbajo vp handle that made him very rich before given political appointment he also hv house in uk and USA.which case did afebabalola handle that makes him a billionaire??you asking rubbish question dont think because you poor thats how others will be.Tunde bakare wife is born and breed in uk from wealthy home.peace stay bless

obailala:
Okay sorry guys, I obviously don't know him as much as you guys do. He was probably a pauper before he started his church business and irrespective of whatever other business or businesses he has going for him currently, he would never still be able to afford N16million, let alone N160 without dipping his hands into his church's purse. I rest my case!

EMMAACHILE:

Do i hear N20m? Kogi as small as it is compared to Kaduna takes average of N400m a month while States like Rivers and Delta collect N2 billion naira security vote monthly.

If you are in power, you will be rich legitimately even without corruption.

Onechancearmy:



Yes. Truth will always be bitter to those who cannot accept reality. Those who won't accept the fact that they are literally at the bottom of the pyramid as far as human progress is concerned...

wirinet:


Can you please explain more on the legality of this Security Vote?

Who or what determines the amount of security vote?

Is it subject to appropriation and oversight by the legislature?

Is it in the constitution or any other law?

EMMAACHILE:

Security vote was used during the military era and was passed unto democracy.
The security vote is determined by each Governor of the state and is deducted from the states monthly allocation.
Security votes are not subject to audit or appropriation and can be used how the Governors/President pleases.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/no-law-supporting-security-vote-nigeria-robert-clarke-san/

I still maintained my stand that the question of security vote has no basis in law.

When the 1999 constitution came into operation it did not make any provision for security vote. I am bound by the constitution if you can find it anywhere there. There may be provision for the upkeep of the Presidency or the Governor’s house. But you will never find that a special amount of money has been allocated for security.


I have checked from the office of the Attorney General of the Federation and he has told me emphatically there is no provision covering the security votes. The question is that nobody in Nigeria today knows how much the presidency is spending on security votes, likewise the governors.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/no-law-supporting-security-vote-nigeria-robert-clarke-san/

kaorama:
Hope you are happy with the treatment he has been giving to southern Kaduna people who are mostly Christians? God will judge all of you at the right time. I know there is something that we are doing that has made it look like God has abandoned His people in this Nation. What have you done to ensure the release of Leah Shuiabu? All your evil prophesies against PDP was APC motivated. We have always known. But from where did you get N160m?

matrix199:
And where did a pastor like Bakare get N160million from?


Tithe payers' money I guess.


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You don't have to defend him. I know much about Bakare, and used to respect him. But he lost my respect when he ventured into politics and became too desperate to hold a public office(for a man of God).


N160m is a lot of money. For a man to give out N160m, he definitely must have at least 6times more than that.
Bakare owns no cargo airline. He studied law in University of Lagos. He was a practising lawyer, and later established his own chamber(Tunde Bakare & Co). At the peak of his legal career, he was called into the ministry.


Like I asked earlier, where did a pastor like Bakare get N160m from?

Tithe payers' money, I tell you.

Adekdammy:


I am sure if another pastor does same for the opposition, you would have typed using tithe money to finance politicians career, yes or no.

I know him very well, beyond the tv.......i still respect him and will always do but u still dont know him b4 latter rain

All is well.

wirinet:


No one said he was a pauper before he started church business, what we are saying is that he was not worth N160 million before he started his church business.

You keep hammering that he has or had other businesses apart from church business, why not shut us up by providing us info on these businesses.

tinsel:

Trying to defend this pastor is annoying.

wirinet:


Where did you get all those things about security votes? Where are the guildlines regarding the creation and use of security votes?

The vanguard link you posted contradicted the points your wrote up there. Did you read the link at all?

Here are highlights of the vanguard report;

matrix199:
And where did a pastor like Bakare get N160million from?


Tithe payers' money I guess.


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You don't have to defend him. I know much about Bakare, and used to respect him. But he lost my respect when he ventured into politics and became too desperate to hold a public office(for a man of God).


N160m is a lot of money. For a man to give out N160m, he definitely must have at least 6times more than that.
Bakare owns no cargo airline. He studied law in University of Lagos. He was a practising lawyer, and later established his own chamber(Tunde Bakare & Co). At the peak of his legal career, he was called into the ministry.


Like I asked earlier, where did a pastor like Bakare get N160m from?

Tithe payers' money, I tell you.

Abillsable:
Bakare was rich before becoming a pastor.By the way,who do you think brought Skoda cars to Nigeria from way back.The man has it.

dre11:









http://pmexpressng.com/gave-nasir-el-rufai-n160m-during-election-tunde-bakare/

nwakibie3:
Is hellrufai salary as a state governor for eight years up to 160m naira

Where did he get the money to pay back

ANTIlSLAM:
You As A Pastor Gave One Terrorist Governor 160M And The Same Governor Is Agitating For Islamic State

Jones4190:
church money you ask your people to bring in the house of the Lord right?

Oga pastor, God will ask you what you did with the money you collect from people in the name of offering and tithes

favor914:
Just imagine a pharisee judging a man of God, You think everyone is a church rat like yourself?