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Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by onyegwu2: 9:10pm On Aug 26, 2018
Buhari can not sack any bad eggs since it was the same bad eggs that brought him to power, so sad Pst Tunde failed to tell us other benefits he got from Gov el rufia and decided to cut the story short,the cars and houses he didn't say, for Pst T to have given out that sum it means he has times 10 of it sadly Nigerians are gullible.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Ikpongiton: 9:10pm On Aug 26, 2018
judgment will start in the church,no doubt about that.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by omoelerin1: 9:19pm On Aug 26, 2018
damosky12:



It becomes drab and petulant when you guys uncritically scream "tithe payers money" anytime a pastor buys an expensive car, house, gives money out, etc.

Does being a pastor sentence a man to being poor? After all, this man is a pastor to thousands of people, some of which are rich people who give to him WILLINGLY in accordance to the Bible.

Galatians 6:6
[6]Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
[13]Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
[14]Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

You should also know that when these people give to their pastors either in money or things, they give big, several times, in tens and a few times in hundreds of millions of naira...

These things legally and biblically belong to these pastors... They break absolutely no law when they spend from these things..

Its sounds silly and childish when we begin to scream "tithe payers money" at all time..
What is this one saying? You think you don make sense be that bah?

A pastor sponsoring politicians with money. Where did he think el rufai will get that money back? Thank God buhari did not win in 2011, when this man was his running mate. This man would have done worst than the corrupt politicians that we know.

I have been saying this and i will keep saying it: pastors/church are the bedrock of corruption in Nigeria!
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by wirinet(m): 9:29pm On Aug 26, 2018
Tundeobama:

which law case did Osinbajo vp handle that made him very rich before given political appointment he also hv house in uk and USA.which case did afebabalola handle that makes him a billionaire??you asking rubbish question dont think because you poor thats how others will be.Tunde bakare wife is born and breed in uk from wealthy home.peace stay bless

I know you people are ready to wear an explosive vest for your "supreme leader", so I understand why you are so pained and lie effortlessly to defend him.

Osinbajo was a SAN and a professor of law before he got into office. I hope you know that hiring a SAN in Nigeria does not come cheap.

Osinbajo was also a Senior Partner with SimmonsCooper Partners before he was elected vice president.

Finally, I hope you are aware that Osinbajo's wife is Awolowo's grand daughter. Awolowo's estate is worth billions.

Your comparison of Bakare with Afe Babalola is not only laughable, it is absurd. Afe Babalola was called to the English Bar in 1963, He set up his own chambers in 1967, he was made a SAN in 1987 and had handled numerous cases up to the supreme Court. You are comparing him with a person that practiced law for less than 8 years and ran a law firm for less than 5 years. Well done.
Abeg tell me how much Bakare's wife's family is worth. Being born in England does not give you wealth.

Now compare that with Bakare's qualifications, professional attainments and family background.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by wirinet(m): 9:34pm On Aug 26, 2018
obailala:
Okay sorry guys, I obviously don't know him as much as you guys do. He was probably a pauper before he started his church business and irrespective of whatever other business or businesses he has going for him currently, he would never still be able to afford N16million, let alone N160 without dipping his hands into his church's purse. I rest my case!

No one said he was a pauper before he started church business, what we are saying is that he was not worth N160 million before he started his church business.

You keep hammering that he has or had other businesses apart from church business, why not shut us up by providing us info on these businesses.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by wirinet(m): 9:53pm On Aug 26, 2018
EMMAACHILE:

Do i hear N20m? Kogi as small as it is compared to Kaduna takes average of N400m a month while States like Rivers and Delta collect N2 billion naira security vote monthly.

If you are in power, you will be rich legitimately even without corruption.

Can you please explain more on the legality of this Security Vote?

Who or what determines the amount of security vote?

Is it subject to appropriation and oversight by the legislature?

Is it in the constitution or any other law?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by imran147(m): 10:03pm On Aug 26, 2018
Onechancearmy:



Yes. Truth will always be bitter to those who cannot accept reality. Those who won't accept the fact that they are literally at the bottom of the pyramid as far as human progress is concerned...


lol wrong thought am not from northern but from ancient city Abeokuta
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Nobody: 10:32pm On Aug 26, 2018
wirinet:


Can you please explain more on the legality of this Security Vote?

Who or what determines the amount of security vote?

Is it subject to appropriation and oversight by the legislature?

Is it in the constitution or any other law?
Security vote was used during the military era and was passed unto democracy.
The security vote is determined by each Governor of the state and is deducted from the states monthly allocation.
Security votes are not subject to audit or appropriation and can be used how the Governors/President pleases.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/no-law-supporting-security-vote-nigeria-robert-clarke-san/
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by wirinet(m): 10:49pm On Aug 26, 2018
EMMAACHILE:

Security vote was used during the military era and was passed unto democracy.
The security vote is determined by each Governor of the state and is deducted from the states monthly allocation.
Security votes are not subject to audit or appropriation and can be used how the Governors/President pleases.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/no-law-supporting-security-vote-nigeria-robert-clarke-san/

Where did you get all those things about security votes? Where are the guildlines regarding the creation and use of security votes?

The vanguard link you posted contradicted the points your wrote up there. Did you read the link at all?

Here are highlights of the vanguard report;


I still maintained my stand that the question of security vote has no basis in law.

When the 1999 constitution came into operation it did not make any provision for security vote. I am bound by the constitution if you can find it anywhere there. There may be provision for the upkeep of the Presidency or the Governor’s house. But you will never find that a special amount of money has been allocated for security.


I have checked from the office of the Attorney General of the Federation and he has told me emphatically there is no provision covering the security votes. The question is that nobody in Nigeria today knows how much the presidency is spending on security votes, likewise the governors.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/no-law-supporting-security-vote-nigeria-robert-clarke-san/
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by MAYOWAAK: 11:08pm On Aug 26, 2018
Mallam Nasir el-Rufai, governor of Kaduna state, remains one of the most focussed public administrators Nigeria has ever had. On Thursday, he became the first governor to present his 2019 budget, giving priority attention to education and health. He pledged that his administration would complete all the projects it started and pay up all its contractual obligations before the end of the year. I also remember that he was the first to nominate commissioners in 2015 — even attaching their CVs and portfolios to the list he sent to the house of assembly. You may not be a fan of his politics but you cannot deny that he understands how government should run. Kudos!
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Splashme: 12:32am On Aug 27, 2018
kaorama:
Hope you are happy with the treatment he has been giving to southern Kaduna people who are mostly Christians? God will judge all of you at the right time. I know there is something that we are doing that has made it look like God has abandoned His people in this Nation. What have you done to ensure the release of Leah Shuiabu? All your evil prophesies against PDP was APC motivated. We have always known. But from where did you get N160m?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by sexyanyabubakar(f): 1:45am On Aug 27, 2018
matrix199:
And where did a pastor like Bakare get N160million from?


Tithe payers' money I guess.


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You don't have to defend him. I know much about Bakare, and used to respect him. But he lost my respect when he ventured into politics and became too desperate to hold a public office(for a man of God).


N160m is a lot of money. For a man to give out N160m, he definitely must have at least 6times more than that.
Bakare owns no cargo airline. He studied law in University of Lagos. He was a practising lawyer, and later established his own chamber(Tunde Bakare & Co). At the peak of his legal career, he was called into the ministry.


Like I asked earlier, where did a pastor like Bakare get N160m from?

Tithe payers' money, I tell you.

Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by matrix199(m): 2:13am On Aug 27, 2018
[quote author=sexyanyabubakar post=70641276][/quote]

Your point?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by obailala(m): 3:24am On Aug 27, 2018
Adekdammy:


I am sure if another pastor does same for the opposition, you would have typed using tithe money to finance politicians career, yes or no.

I know him very well, beyond the tv.......i still respect him and will always do but u still dont know him b4 latter rain

All is well.
YES you are right! if another pastor does same for the opposition (or even for an APC candidate), I would definitely say it's tithe money. But Pastor Bakare isn't the same thing as the 'others', he has a reputations which precedes him. He isnt your typical Nigerian pentecostal pastor who goes around dwelling on tithe and seed collection. He's even known to be a controversial pastor for this particular reason due to his constant scathing attacks on other Nigerian pastors which has kept him ostracised. This is actually public knowledge for anyone who cares to know, so its just laughable that you choose to lump him in the same category with others because you dont agree with him politically.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by obailala(m): 3:27am On Aug 27, 2018
wirinet:


No one said he was a pauper before he started church business, what we are saying is that he was not worth N160 million before he started his church business.

You keep hammering that he has or had other businesses apart from church business, why not shut us up by providing us info on these businesses.
Okay maybe he didnt have N160 million (or it's equivalent) when he started his ministry, but are you saying today that he cant muster up N160 million withiout dipping his hands into church funds?... Is tjat what your argument is?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by obailala(m): 3:28am On Aug 27, 2018
tinsel:

Trying to defend this pastor is annoying.
Okay so castigating him would have been pleasing to you right?... Sorry boy, everyone can't buy into what you like. You don't own the world. Peace!
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Nobody: 5:10am On Aug 27, 2018
wirinet:


Where did you get all those things about security votes? Where are the guildlines regarding the creation and use of security votes?

The vanguard link you posted contradicted the points your wrote up there. Did you read the link at all?

Here are highlights of the vanguard report;

The summary of security votes is that it has no legal basis in law and its been used to legitimately (illegally) steal funds. Where is the contradiction?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by shugabasbn: 6:11am On Aug 27, 2018
#160M ,hmm what was your other business sir?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Abillsable: 2:05pm On Aug 27, 2018
Bakare was rich before becoming a pastor.By the way,who do you think brought Skoda cars to Nigeria from way back.The man has it.
matrix199:
And where did a pastor like Bakare get N160million from?


Tithe payers' money I guess.


......................................................




You don't have to defend him. I know much about Bakare, and used to respect him. But he lost my respect when he ventured into politics and became too desperate to hold a public office(for a man of God).


N160m is a lot of money. For a man to give out N160m, he definitely must have at least 6times more than that.
Bakare owns no cargo airline. He studied law in University of Lagos. He was a practising lawyer, and later established his own chamber(Tunde Bakare & Co). At the peak of his legal career, he was called into the ministry.


Like I asked earlier, where did a pastor like Bakare get N160m from?

Tithe payers' money, I tell you.
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by wirinet(m): 7:37am On Aug 28, 2018
Abillsable:
Bakare was rich before becoming a pastor.By the way,who do you think brought Skoda cars to Nigeria from way back.The man has it.

You made a claim that Bakare was rich before starting his church and we have been asking for proof or at least an explanation. You provided non. I have told you he established his law practice in 1984 and closed it 5 years later to establish a church. So what businesses made him rich?

What do you mean he brought Skoda to Nigeria? Did he start the business of importing Skoda cars, or he established a manufacturing plant producing the cars?
If he only imported cars, are you saying he became very rich importing and selling Skoda cars? For how long was he selling the Skoda cars, and was he selling cars the same time he was running his law firm?, or maybe when he was studying law at the university.

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Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by jsb(m): 12:56pm On Aug 28, 2018
And the Governor repaid back the loan within three years as a Governor..How much is his salary..?? Added with choice properties then imagine how much he must have cornered in less than 60 months..is Governance now a business venture Mr Intergrity my bombom..
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by kettykin: 11:11am On Aug 17, 2020
dre11:









http://pmexpressng.com/gave-nasir-el-rufai-n160m-during-election-tunde-bakare/


please what else is the meaning of the work Antichrist Bikonu
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Lipscomb(m): 11:45am On Aug 17, 2020
Security vote is 500m.
nwakibie3:
Is hellrufai salary as a state governor for eight years up to 160m naira

Where did he get the money to pay back

Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by nku5: 5:11pm On Aug 29, 2020
I just remembered this. SMH
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by Jones4190(m): 5:28pm On Aug 29, 2020
church money you ask your people to bring in the house of the Lord right?

Oga pastor, God will ask you what you did with the money you collect from people in the name of offering and tithes
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by ANTIlSLAM(m): 6:36pm On Aug 29, 2020
You As A Pastor Gave One Terrorist Governor 160M And The Same Governor Is Agitating For Islamic State
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by favor914: 7:50pm On Aug 29, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:
You As A Pastor Gave One Terrorist Governor 160M And The Same Governor Is Agitating For Islamic State
Just imagine a pharisee judging a man of God, You think everyone is a church rat like yourself?
Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by favor914: 7:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
Jones4190:
church money you ask your people to bring in the house of the Lord right?

Oga pastor, God will ask you what you did with the money you collect from people in the name of offering and tithes
Keep quiet Hypocrite is your one Naira in the 160 million? What concerns you with church matters, when everyone knows your opium & religion is Bet9naija?

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Re: Tunde Bakare: I Gave El-Rufai N160M To Contest For Kaduna Governor In 2015 by ANTIlSLAM(m): 4:20am On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
Just imagine a pharisee judging a man of God, You think everyone is a church rat like yourself?

Another git sighted

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