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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 9:21pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


Madam take your L and go.

I have given you an assignment to fulfil.

Stop posting the bill of February when this thread is about the second time they passed the bill in July with key areas deleted.

First, you accused me of posting 2014 amendment. I refuted it then you quoted disputed sections in 2018 amendments that had nothing to do with Section 49.

Again, I brought your attention to the two new subsections (1) and (2) that were added to provide for the smart card reader and other technological devices in elections.

You finally shouted at me without providing a verifiable link to your claim that these amendments were deleted which you claimed previously never existed

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:26pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


First, you accused me of post 2014 amendment. I refuted it then you quoted disputed sections in 2018 amendments that had nothing to do with Section 49.

Again, I brought your attention to two new subsections (1) and (2) that were added to provide for the smart card reader and other technological devices in elections.

Then finally, you shouted at me without providing a verifiable link to your claim that these amendments were deleted which you claimed previously never existed

I have already told you that what you thought was an amendment was not one. It was already there in 2015 electoral act. That was not the focus of PMB for rejecting it the first time it was passed.

They now took it back and tinkered with it, probably hoping that since PMB already saw the card reader was mentioned in the first one, he would just go straight to the areas he asked them to ammend so they ended up deleting certain crucial sections which could have also included the card reader usage especially since the lawmakers admitted to deleting certain sections despite PMB telling them to Ammend it and not delete it.

This was why PMB rejected it a second time and apparently, for the Presidency to now say the card readers was not included in the second bill transmitted to them in July. This means it must have been one of those deleted.

Use your head.

Now your assignment is to get me the one for July that shows it was not deleted rather than bringing to me the one from February.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 9:35pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


I have already told you that what you thought was an amendment was not one. It was already there in 2015 electoral act. That was not the focus of PMB for rejecting it the first time it was passed.

They now took it back and tinkered with it, probably hoping that since PMB already saw the card reader was mentioned in the first one, he would just go straight to the areas he asked them to ammend so they ended up deleting certain crucial sections which could have also included the card reader usage especially since the lawmakers admitted to deleting certain sections despite PMB telling them to Ammend it and not delete it.

This was why PMB rejected it a second time and apparently, for the Presidency to now say the card readers was not included in the second bill transmitted to them in July. This means it must have been one of those deleted.

Use your head.

Now your assignment is to get me the one for July that shows it was not deleted rather than bringing to me the one from February.

For once try to approach this debate academically because everything is not about politics.

Notwithstanding, I will consult more to get the latest copy.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Nobody: 9:35pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


You are one of the copy and paste people who never take time to understand anything before you copy and paste it. As long ad it appeals to your emotions you just spread the nonsense around.

Let me help you.

US National Debt - $21 Trillion - Debt to GDP 76%
UK National Debt - $2.3 Trillion - Debt to GDP 89%
China National Debt - $4.3 Trillion - Debt to GDP 41%
Nigeria National Debt - $73 Billion - Debt to GDP 21%

Debt is not the issue. It's what you do with it that's the issue.
Question is - If debt is rightly invested in infrastructure (that creates Capital Formation) or human capital (that keeps people alive & develop their skills and mental capacity), we'll be ok. If truth be told, a large Percentage of our National Debt was looted by the previous governments.

The conversation we should be having concerning our National Debt is
- Is it sustainable?
- What is it invested on?
- How much would those investments add to the GDP?
- When should we expect these ROI?

This government is committed to infrastructural awakening and is well on the course to achieving this with a time frame in mind after which we begin to get our ROI fast

These are some of the key indices that bring about an economical rating and yes as it stands now, Nigeria is the best economy in africa all thanks to this present Government which remained unwavering in the face of recession and maneuvered the nation out of those murky waters to the place where Forbes could now rate us as they have done.

Kudos to PMB and PYO.

A match made in heaven.

God bless Nigeria

$73 billion. That is impossible. Or you meant 23?
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:41pm On Sep 11, 2018
Mosesm:


$73 billion. That is impossible. Or you meant 23?

I meant $73b
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:43pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


For once try to approach this debate academically because everything is not about politics.

Notwithstanding, I will consult more to get the latest copy.

Thanks for your time.

There is nothing academic about this. Simply post the latest electoral bill transmitted to PMB in July that's all.

There will be no debate once it shows the card reader was not omitted

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by basadenet: 9:43pm On Sep 11, 2018

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 9:46pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


There is nothing academic about this. Simply post the latest electoral bill transmitted to PMB in July that's all.

There will be no debate once it shows the card reader was not omitted

I post the amendments and you accused me of posting 2014 amendment - you lied, it was 2018 amendments

If the amendments I quoted were deleted, prove it by posting the latest. The onus is on you not me.

I have the copy of the document containing all the 2018 amendments

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:49pm On Sep 11, 2018
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:51pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


I post the amendments and you accused me of posting 2014 amendment - you lied

If the amendments I quoted were deleted, prove it by posting the latest. The onus is on you not me.

I have the copy ofl the document containing all the 2018 amendments

What you posted was an already existing electoral act and not the amendments. I already told you this.

You are wasting time going round in circles.

NASS drafted the bill and not the presidency. They should show where they included the card reader in the latest amended bill sent in July.

The presidency says it is not included. The Onus is actually on you and not me.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 10:06pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


What you posted was an already existing electoral act and not the amendments. I already told you this.

You are wasting time going round in circles.

NASS drafted the bill and not the presidency. They should show where they included the card reader in the latest amended bill sent in July.

The presidency says it is not included. The Onus is actually on you and not me.

I have the 2014 amendments and Section 49 contains no such mention of card reader or any technology.

You have lied again. If you can't find the 2014 amendment yourself, I will gladly post the screenshot

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 10:10pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


I have the 2014 amendments and Section 49 contains no such mention of card reader or any technology.

You have lied again. If you can't find the 2014 amendment yourself, I will gladly post the screenshot

You seem.to have forgotten the Jega and GEJ debacle where GEJ did all he could to stop the use of card readers but Jega prevailed via the use of the courts and the support of the masses.

The card reader was part of the electoral act in 2015.

Get yourself updated.

Get me the July bill and stop mentioning me till you do

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 10:29pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


You seem.to have forgotten the Jega and GEJ debacle where GEJ did all he could to stop the use of card readers but Jega prevailed via the use of the courts and the support of the masses.

The card reader was part of the electoral act in 2015.

Get yourself updated.

Get me the July bill and stop mentioning me till you do

Stop deceiving yourself and post the screenshot of section 49 of 2014 Electoral Law as Amended

Present something credible to prove your claims

Not even one screenshot to show

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 10:31pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


Stop deceiving yourself and post the screenshot of section 47 of 2014 Electoral Law as Amended

Present something credible to prove your claims

Is the Presidency NASS who put the bill together?

They have denied the inclusion. NASS should confirm the inclusion by making the bill public.

Is that one hard again?

Please stop disturbing me with your wasted mentions and provide the July electoral bill.

In your foolishness you posted the first bill from February and even in that bill they did not ammend the original which was part of the 2015 electoral act but simply added to it according to you. Yet you claim that card readers were never part of the electoral act in 2015 despite the fact that 2015 elections employed the use of card readers.

Abeg go and take several seats.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Nobody: 10:50pm On Sep 11, 2018
APC wants to rig 2019 niyen.
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by NotAZombie: 11:30pm On Sep 11, 2018
Buterflyle0:


Exactly
You are sha the first to always blame people without listening to the two sides. Fucking hypocrite you are. Enjoy your #30k while it lasts. I am wiser now.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by NotAZombie: 11:33pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


For once try to approach this debate academically because everything is not about politics.

Notwithstanding, I will consult more to get the latest copy.

Thanks for your time.
Ma leave that good for nothing fella. He has nothing to give than foolishness.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by delvinmaya(m): 11:46pm On Sep 11, 2018
LadyExcellency:


Stop deceiving yourself and post the screenshot of section 49 of 2014 Electoral Law as Amended

Present something credible to prove your claims

Not even one screenshot to show

I just commend your patience. Not to even utter a single word of insult to him is maturity. I also love all your assertions. You are quite correct. The 2015 amendment had no mention of a card reader, meaning its use them was not backed by law. If he had actually tried to carry out a little investigation he might have found out, instead he choose to prance around. As you rightly said, the onus is not even on him but the FG to prove that the aforesaid card reader was not in the bill sent to them.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 11:51pm On Sep 11, 2018
NotAZombie:

You are sha the first to always blame people without listening to the two sides. Fucking hypocrite you are. Enjoy your #30k while it lasts. I am wiser now.

You are sha the first to always jump on anything anti PMB without listening to both sides. Fvckinf hypocrite you are. Enjoy your 15k looters media crew monthly allowance while it lasts. I have always been wiser.
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by dman4mdmoon(m): 11:59pm On Sep 11, 2018
delvinmaya:


I just commend your patience. Not to even utter a single word of insult to him is maturity. I also love all your assertions. You are quite correct. The 2015 amendment had no mention of a card reader, meaning its use them was not backed by law. If he had actually tried to carry out a little investigation he might have found out, instead he choose to prance around. As you rightly said, the onus is not even on him but the FG to prove that the aforesaid card reader was not in the bill sent to them.
I strongly believe that both the Presidency and NASS should make public the versions of the amendments in their possession, so that Nigerians will know who truly is saying the truth.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 12:02am On Sep 12, 2018
delvinmaya:


I just commend your patience. Not to even utter a single word of insult to him is maturity. I also love all your assertions. You are quite correct. The 2015 amendment had no mention of a card reader, meaning its use them was not backed by law. If he had actually tried to carry out a little investigation he might have found out, instead he choose to prance around. As you rightly said, the onus is not even on him but the FG to prove that the aforesaid card reader was not in the bill sent to them.

This is from the 2015 elections

Sections 49 and 52 of the Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) had been subjected to legal debate in respect to the use of the card reader for the 2015 general elections. To some, the deployment of card readers for the accreditation of voters at the
elections tactically meant adoption of electronic voting, which the 2010 Electoral Act outlaws
(Oderemi, 2015). Section 49 states that:
(1) Every person intending to vote shall present himself to a Presiding Officer at the polling
unit in the constituency in which his name is registered with his voter‟s card. (2) The
Presiding Officer shall, on being satisfied that the name of the person is on the Register of
Voters, issue him a ballot paper, and indicate on the Register that the person has voted. Section
52 stipulates that: (1) Voting at an election under this Act shall be by open secret ballot. (2)
The use of electronic voting machine for the time being is prohibited. (3) A voter on receiving
a ballot paper shall mark it in the manner prescribed by the Commission. (4) All ballots at an election under this Act at any polling station shall be deposited in the ballot box in the open
view of the public.

In his contribution, Falana (2015) averred that the deployment of the card reader by INEC is
not illegal. He submitted that INEC has the constitutional power to set the standards and
guidelines for elections. In view of this, he argued that the card reader is part of accreditation
and not voting. He maintained that what the law proscribed is electronic voting and not the
card readers. Therefore, according to him the use of the card reader in the 2015 general
elections is legal and legitimate (cited in Oderemi, 2015).

The Society for Advancement and Protection of Public Rights (SAPPR) (2015), a civil society
in its submission argued that the deployment of the card reader is illegal because it is in
violation of Section 52 (1) of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended). SAPPR opined that the use
of the card reader for screening of voter cards or which has the effect of preventing a registered voter to vote is beyond the powers of INEC. As such, the civil society maintained that by virtue of Sections 77 (2) and 117 (2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) of Nigeria.

These were the legal arguments for and against the use of the card reader in 2015 of which inec won because their powers also covered any means they thought fit to be used for accreditation.

Some of you just talk carelessly.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 12:29am On Sep 12, 2018
Buterflyle0:


This is from the 2015 elections

Sections 49 and 52 of the Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) had been subjected to legal debate in respect to the use of the card reader for the 2015 general elections. To some, the deployment of card readers for the accreditation of voters at the
elections tactically meant adoption of electronic voting, which the 2010 Electoral Act outlaws
(Oderemi, 2015). Section 49 states that:
(1) Every person intending to vote shall present himself to a Presiding Officer at the polling
unit in the constituency in which his name is registered with his voter‟s card. (2) The
Presiding Officer shall, on being satisfied that the name of the person is on the Register of
Voters, issue him a ballot paper, and indicate on the Register that the person has voted. Section
52 stipulates that: (1) Voting at an election under this Act shall be by open secret ballot. (2)
The use of electronic voting machine for the time being is prohibited. (3) A voter on receiving
a ballot paper shall mark it in the manner prescribed by the Commission. (4) All ballots at an election under this Act at any polling station shall be deposited in the ballot box in the open
view of the public.

In his contribution, Falana (2015) averred that the deployment of the card reader by INEC is
not illegal. He submitted that INEC has the constitutional power to set the standards and
guidelines for elections. In view of this, he argued that the card reader is part of accreditation
and not voting. He maintained that what the law proscribed is electronic voting and not the
card readers. Therefore, according to him the use of the card reader in the 2015 general
elections is legal and legitimate (cited in Oderemi, 2015).

The Society for Advancement and Protection of Public Rights (SAPPR) (2015), a civil society
in its submission argued that the deployment of the card reader is illegal because it is in
violation of Section 52 (1) of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended). SAPPR opined that the use
of the card reader for screening of voter cards or which has the effect of preventing a registered voter to vote is beyond the powers of INEC. As such, the civil society maintained that by virtue of Sections 77 (2) and 117 (2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) of Nigeria.

These were the legal arguments for and against the use of the card reader in 2015 of which inec won because their powers also covered any means they thought fit to be used for accreditation.

Some of you just talk carelessly.

Current Provision


Provides that persons intending to vote with their vote’s card must present themselves to a Presiding Officer at the polling unit where his name is registered- section 49(1)

However, the Presiding Officer will only issue him a ballot paper and indicate that he has voted on the register after confirming that his name is on the Register of Voters under section 49 (2).

2018 Amendment


Under the proposed section 49(1 a person must present himself with his voter’s card to a Presiding officer for accreditation at the polling unit where his name is registered.

2014 says intending to vote with voters card compared it with the 2018 amendment which states explicitly "must present a valid voters card"

2014 provision strictly based qualification to vote on voters registers which 2018 Amendment annulled by giving superemacy to "valid authenticated voters card"

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by LadyExcellency: 12:48am On Sep 12, 2018
Section 52 (2) - Conduct of polls in 2015 was to Conduct Polls by Open Secret Balloting , this provision was amended to give INEC the discretion to determine the procedure for polls and e-voting voting. Now, in 2018 Amendment it seeks to further amend the provision to mandate the Commission to conduct elections by electronic voting or any other method of voting as it may determine from time to time.
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by kaycodes: 7:17am On Sep 12, 2018
LadyExcellency:
Section 52 (2) - Conduct of polls in 2015 was to Conduct Polls by Open Secret Balloting , this provision was amended to give INEC the discretion to determine the procedure for polls and e-voting voting. Now, in 2018 Amendment it seeks to further amend the provision to mandate the Commission to conduct elections by electronic voting or any other method of voting as it may determine from time to time.

Madam what you are quoting is the first bill sent in Feb. From the screenshots you posted it is clearly stated Feb 2018. This first bill sent to the President was rejected because of NASS seeking to change the sequence of the election thereby overriding INECs power. They took it back and from the claim by the presidency have now remove the provisions for card reader from the first bill they submitted. In the hope that the presidency will not review the document in full. The onus is on the NASS to furnish us with the latest bill that was refused assent instead of media propaganda. Saraki and his cohorts are trying to undermine our electoral process. Let the NASS release a statement denying what Ita Enang has said. You cannot be crying more than the bereaved. Ensuring that the truth prevails should be our focus. So let's focus on the issue. Was the card reader included in the latest copy of the bill or not. Provide a verifiable document with dates that we can prove or provide a statement by the NASS that counters the presidency. Dont let these politicians play hanky panky with your emotions.

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by uwa1(m): 7:26am On Sep 12, 2018
Wondering who is lying..
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Swiftboy(m): 8:02am On Sep 12, 2018
This is poor sense of judgement at best coming from you trying to tell us that kinda humongous debt profile is a sign of good economy. Haba you hate this country oh. What did they do that's so impressive, nothing! Absolutely nothing! Nigerians like you are the reason we are in trouble as a nation playing partisan politics because of your belly... Because of the employment of small change they agate reach your side... You forget about your born and unborn children. You and I know how inflation and unemployment has reached all time high because of this President inability to so called change this nation or at least lead us in the right path. Is over #10 trillion naira debt with # 2 trillion debt servicing facility per anum a good thing to you? They government even agree they can't do it because PDP stole but your belly infrastructure is making long post on Naira land to mislead Well meaning Nigerian that continuing with a president we are not even sure of his health status is the best thing since slice bread. You are a freaking joker! angry
Buterflyle0:


You are one of the copy and paste people who never take time to understand anything before you copy and paste it. As long ad it appeals to your emotions you just spread the nonsense around.

Let me help you.

US National Debt - $21 Trillion - Debt to GDP 76%
UK National Debt - $2.3 Trillion - Debt to GDP 89%
China National Debt - $4.3 Trillion - Debt to GDP 41%
Nigeria National Debt - $73 Billion - Debt to GDP 21%

Debt is not the issue. It's what you do with it that's the issue.
Question is - If debt is rightly invested in infrastructure (that creates Capital Formation) or human capital (that keeps people alive & develop their skills and mental capacity), we'll be ok. If truth be told, a large Percentage of our National Debt was looted by the previous governments.

The conversation we should be having concerning our National Debt is
- Is it sustainable?
- What is it invested on?
- How much would those investments add to the GDP?
- When should we expect these ROI?

This government is committed to infrastructural awakening and is well on the course to achieving this with a time frame in mind after which we begin to get our ROI fast

These are some of the key indices that bring about an economical rating and yes as it stands now, Nigeria is the best economy in africa all thanks to this present Government which remained unwavering in the face of recession and maneuvered the nation out of those murky waters to the place where Forbes could now rate us as they have done.

Kudos to PMB and PYO.

A match made in heaven.

God bless Nigeria
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 8:18am On Sep 12, 2018
Swiftboy:
This is poor sense of judgement at best coming from you trying to tell us that kinda humongous debt profile is a sign of good economy. Haba you hate this country oh. What did they do that's so impressive, nothing! Absolutely nothing! Nigerians like you are the reason we are in trouble as a nation playing partisan politics because of your belly... Because of the employment of small change they agate reach your side... You forget about your born and unborn children. You and I know how inflation and unemployment has reached all time high because of this President inability to so called change this nation or at least lead us in the right path. Is over #10 trillion naira debt with # 2 trillion debt servicing facility per anum a good thing to you? They government even agree they can't do it because PDP stole but your belly infrastructure is making long post on Naira land to mislead Well meaning Nigerian that continuing with a president we are not even sure of his health status is the best thing since slice bread. You are a freaking joker! angry

Every country is in debt. The problem is not the debt. The issue is WHAT IS THIS DEBT USED FOR?

Get that into your emotionally thick skull.

Its like a businessman who wishes to grow his business but lacks the financial ability and goes to someone who can fund it.

If he gets the funding and instead of putting it where it should be put per his business, he chooses to eat it. He is further impoverishing himself.

But if he actually uses it for the right thing, his business will boom and he would in turn be able to pay back the funding but with an already booming business.

Debt is good when utilized for what it was taken for and not looted. Looting was what the previous governments did with our debt which is why we have never gone forward as a nation despite all the borrowing.

The case is different now
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Swiftboy(m): 9:13am On Sep 12, 2018
You are the emotional one here... Go and investigate corruption in this government first before you talk to me. Our budget is more of recurrent expenditures because of the so called social intervention etcetera and you are way too emotional to see that. It's even debatable that this government has only being commissioning already commissioned projects. Or so you think we don't read budget and the frivolities there in. A country in debt but it's president is flying up and down for medical tourism and over 4 billion naira chop money. Chuck of our budget goes into securities, like PDP, this government can't account for most of it. Oh you are not A Nigerian, you are a Buhari st,
I don't expect anything less from you supporting corruption and incompetence. Like I always say, Buharists are living with their heads buried in sands.it's a crime on the Nigerian state to support a governent that's hurting the nation just cos you love the presidency. A big disservice.
Buterflyle0:


Every country is in debt. The problem is not the debt. The issue is WHAT IS THIS DEBT USED FOR?

Get that into your emotionally thick skull.

Its like a businessman who wishes to grow his business but lacks the financial ability and goes to someone who can fund it.

If he gets the funding and instead of putting it where it should be put per his business, he chooses to eat it. He is further impoverishing himself.

But if he actually uses it for the right thing, his business will boom and he would in turn be able to pay back the funding but with an already booming business.

Debt is good when utilized for what it was taken for and not looted. Looting was what the previous governments did with our debt which is why we have never gone forward as a nation despite all the borrowing.

The case is different now

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Lisaint(m): 9:14am On Sep 12, 2018
My Signature
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:17am On Sep 12, 2018
Swiftboy:
[s]You are the emotional one here... Go and investigate corruption in this government first before you talk to me. Our budget is more of recurrent expenditures because of the so called social intervention etcetera and you are way too emotional to see that. It's even debatable that this government has only being commissioning already commissioned projects. Or so you think we don't read budget and the frivolities there in. A country in debt but it's president is flying up and down for medical tourism and over 4 billion naira chop money. Chuck of our budget goes into securities, like PDP, this government can't account for most of it. Oh you are not A Nigerian, you are a Buhari st,
I don't expect anything less from you supporting corruption and incompetence. Like I always say, Buharists are living with their heads buried in sands.it's a crime on the Nigerian state to support a governent that's hurting the nation just cos you love the presidency. A big disservice[/s].

Trash talk!

[img]https://media./images/1cdd035431627b4d7e8cc35e63f3ef69/tenor.gif[/img]

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Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by haveadream: 9:28am On Sep 12, 2018
Here is link to the rubbish the propaganda your APC government released recently. - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/electoral-act-amendment-bill-card-reader-tool-for-credible-polls-presidency/

I cannot see any where it was stated that the National Assembly removed the inclusion of card reader. The gentle lady you accused of posting a wrong Bill humbly asked you to provide all of us with the version that removed the card reader but instead of you doing that you keep going on and on about something else. Everything is not politics. If you know more than us, please post the correct version. We are ready to learn but if you cannot provide us with what you alledge to be the correct version, then it may be better for you to abstain from helping your APC with more lies that is easily detected.

This link may also help but it may be possible for you to have the current and correct version that your dullard Buhari rejected. - http://placng.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FACTSHEET-ON-THE-ELECTORAL-ACT-AMENDMENT-BILL-2018-AS-PASSED-BY-THE-NATIONAL-ASSEMBLY.pdf

Buterflyle0:


This is from the 2015 elections

Sections 49 and 52 of the Electoral Act 2010 (as amended) had been subjected to legal debate in respect to the use of the card reader for the 2015 general elections. To some, the deployment of card readers for the accreditation of voters at the
elections tactically meant adoption of electronic voting, which the 2010 Electoral Act outlaws
(Oderemi, 2015). Section 49 states that:
(1) Every person intending to vote shall present himself to a Presiding Officer at the polling
unit in the constituency in which his name is registered with his voter‟s card. (2) The
Presiding Officer shall, on being satisfied that the name of the person is on the Register of
Voters, issue him a ballot paper, and indicate on the Register that the person has voted. Section
52 stipulates that: (1) Voting at an election under this Act shall be by open secret ballot. (2)
The use of electronic voting machine for the time being is prohibited. (3) A voter on receiving
a ballot paper shall mark it in the manner prescribed by the Commission. (4) All ballots at an election under this Act at any polling station shall be deposited in the ballot box in the open
view of the public.

In his contribution, Falana (2015) averred that the deployment of the card reader by INEC is
not illegal. He submitted that INEC has the constitutional power to set the standards and
guidelines for elections. In view of this, he argued that the card reader is part of accreditation
and not voting. He maintained that what the law proscribed is electronic voting and not the
card readers. Therefore, according to him the use of the card reader in the 2015 general
elections is legal and legitimate (cited in Oderemi, 2015).

The Society for Advancement and Protection of Public Rights (SAPPR) (2015), a civil society
in its submission argued that the deployment of the card reader is illegal because it is in
violation of Section 52 (1) of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended). SAPPR opined that the use
of the card reader for screening of voter cards or which has the effect of preventing a registered voter to vote is beyond the powers of INEC. As such, the civil society maintained that by virtue of Sections 77 (2) and 117 (2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) of Nigeria.

These were the legal arguments for and against the use of the card reader in 2015 of which inec won because their powers also covered any means they thought fit to be used for accreditation.

Some of you just talk carelessly.
Re: Card Reader Not Included In Electoral Amendment Bill Sent To The President. by Buterflyle0: 9:34am On Sep 12, 2018
haveadream:
Here is link to the rubbish the propaganda your APC government released recently. - https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/electoral-act-amendment-bill-card-reader-tool-for-credible-polls-presidency/

I cannot see any where it was stated that the National Assembly removed the inclusion of card reader. The gentle lady you accused of posting a wrong Bill humbly asked you to provide all of us with the version that removed the card reader but instead of you doing that you keep going on and on about something else. Everything is not politics. If you know more than us, please post the correct version. We are ready to learn but if you cannot provide us with what you alledge to be the correct version, then it may be better for you to abstain from helping your APC with more lies that is easily detected.

This link may also help but it may be possible for you to have the current and correct version that your dullard Buhari rejected. - http://placng.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FACTSHEET-ON-THE-ELECTORAL-ACT-AMENDMENT-BILL-2018-AS-PASSED-BY-THE-NATIONAL-ASSEMBLY.pdf


Those who drafted it aka NASS know how they drafted it.

How can the Presidency show you what it did not draft? They can only tell you why they rejected it.

The ones who drafted it should provide proof that they included it as the originators of the draft.

If I pay you money from my account and you deny it, will the court be asking you to show proof of what you say you did not receive or would they be asking me for proof of what I sent to you?

Use your head and not your feet to think.

Your PDP as they did in 2015 are trying to truncate the use of card readers.

Fraudulent party with fraudulent followers

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