Pennywise:

I yawwn. Another attention-crazed wannabe on NL. So much sound and fury. Unfortunately you have no issues for me to address. Try again.

nakedall:

This is a good development, hope other states copy it.

Eko oni bajẹ!!! GO LAGOS.

babapupa:



Lagos state government just teamed with a Chinese firm to build the first refinery in Nigeria in 30 years withing the LFTZ and they just commissioned a private power project to power Alahusa. They have investors building energy city in Badagry (The main energy hub in Africa)

The same poor eople you're talking about are collecting paycheck from LFTZ construction and hundreds of thousands more upon completion? The same poor people you're talking about are collecting checks from the Ten lane Badagry express? The same poor people you're talking about are collecting paychecks from the light rail program, the same poor people you're talking about are collecting paychecks from Ikoyi bridge and other projects going on around the state.


What do you really know about the Lagos state government and it's activities gan sef?

proudly9ja:

And Im sure you have noticed that noone is complaining about these other projects that you outlined. And noone is also complaining about this Eko Atlantic project in terms of its possibility of creating jobs and bringing in more money for government, what most people have complained about it the risks involved and if such the same aim could have been achieved using other parts of lagos. The fact is, if there are environmental issues in future, it won't only affect the people living or working on the island but the entire lagos so people are very much free to ask questions.o

My own take on issues like this especially on NL where any dissenting voice is an opposition and should be 'sent to the gutters' is to siddon look. If in future, it all goes well, then good for us all, and if it doesn't, well we all will work together to rebuld.

Pifa:

 
Question for paddy_lo and babapupa: Is this project going to wipe out the Bar Beach?

My recollection of the VI area is sketchy, but I do remember going to the Bar Beach with my parents when I was young. 
   

babapupa:

Not to my knowledge. It's actually going to help the Bar Beach by giving back to Bar Beach most of what it lost to the Atlantic.

babapupa:

But your environmental and safety concerns has been tirelessly addressed by the state, the developers and the contractors. They've done all kinds of above specification simulations and if I might add, it was done by the best folks in the world. The folks running their mouth off about these red herring concerns either lack intellectual curiosity and are too lazy to read and look at all the available info and data or basically have other personal issues beyond this project.


Unlike a lot of know nothing talking heads in this thread, I'm a Lagosian and I make it my business to follow my state's policies and actions. This is a solid project and I'm satisfied with every bit of safety and environmental issues provided and the fact tat they hired the best folks in the world to handle it is a major plus.

Just because some head in the sand and ill informed folks are running their mouth off doesn't mean the issues raised are still out there unaddressed. Do your research and acquaint yourself with the project, I did and obviously paddy lo did too.


It's really frustrating and disheartening listen to people even you talking about what's been addressed in this and other threads. Have you read this thread from the first page?

You can not blame us for other people's silly motives or inability to read and comprehend.


Now about the projects I listed. We sometimes have to let these clueless people know what's going on around the state since in their shallow minds, the state is not doing anything or the state is not looking out for the poor.

They want the state to do everything under the sun for everybody, even for the thousands of people trooping into Lagos everyday,
I believe this is the SOLE purpose of the government, if it was a sorority, it would be called that. The government is supposed to constantly try and uplift everybody.

The question is, where in their mind do they think the state is gonna get the money from? from thin air. The state need projects like this and the ones I mentioned to allow people to collect paychecks and the state to collect taxes to better the lives of the masses and meets it's societal obligations.
There is money, just ask those feeding off it, causing projects to halt.



I read some of these people's nonsense and shake my head like are they for real or just hopelessly delusional.
You shouldn't call other people's opinions (especially since they disagree with yours. . nonsense).

There is money, just ask those feeding off it, causing projects to halt.

@topup
Lagos Population 17million
Lagos Budget(2010) $2.5billion

Johannesburg Population 3.8million ppl
Johannesburg Budget(2010) $3.4 billion

Do u understand the implication of the above figures?. .
and why contrary to your wild claims there is really no money. . . .

or to put it in clearer terms,Lagos is trying to maximize scarce dollars,by doing its best in the current realities

topup:

[color=#770077]I kinda agree with eseagu, we're happy to see development, but this does not address the current issue of lack of proper infrastructure. This island will only address the minority, it will actually do NOTHING to alleviate the problems in mainland Lagos, because those hwo have to deal with it are those who won't be able to afford the luxury apartments and residential quaters on Eko Atlantic.

I wish the government will just accept responsibility and address the problems with traffic in the city, where there is in fact a problem. Embellishing the city with an attractive coastline can come afterwards.

topup:

I kinda agree with eseagu, we're happy to see development, but this does not address the current issue of lack of proper infrastructure. This island will only address the minority, it will actually do NOTHING to alleviate the problems in mainland Lagos, because those hwo have to deal with it are those who won't be able to afford the luxury apartments and residential quaters on Eko Atlantic.

I wish the government will just accept responsibility and address the problems with traffic in the city, where there is in fact a problem. Embellishing the city with an attractive coastline can come afterwards.

PapaBrowne:

A SINCERE OBSERVATION AFTER READING THIS THREAD

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Reading through this thread, you would obviously see that there is a disparity between the intelligence of those against the project and those for the project.

Protagonists(those for the project)
It is easy to see that the protagonists are well read, understand development issues and are very good at articulating their views.
Their diction is sound and their speech is clear. You read their posts and you learn a thing or three from it.
Need I say more?

Antagonists (those against the project)
For the antagonists, it is pretty obvious from their posts that they love their country. They would really love to see the standard of living and quality of life improve. However, you can easily detect via their postings that they haven't studied enough to understand the theories of development or the policies required to drive growth. They aren't well read enough in the issues of development which I think is permissible given that it might not be their area of endeavour.
Sadly also, they are not good at articulating their points. While some of the antagonists do have good diction, it is apparent that puuting it to appropraite use is a hard task for many.


Now, I 'm not sure why the more intelligent are likely to support a project of this nature and the less intelligent likely to do otherwise.
I can safely assume however that it is a function of "Circular cause and consequence". That is to say the same factors that caused the intelligent to be intelligent is the same  factor that caused them to support the project. Same goes for the antagonists. Same factors that induced low intelligence are same factors that inhibit their abilities to see the benefits the protagonists see.

My ADVICE to Protagonists: Sympathise with the antagonists for their knowledge is limited.
My ADVICE to Antagonists:  Up your game, expand your knowledge base. Or better still, learn form the Protagonists.

I no bi teacher I no dey mark WAEC. It is just an honest observation.

ezeagu:

A 5 year old can tour the streets of Lagos when this project is finished and we'll see if they'll be 'intelligent' enough to ignore the huge slum opposite Eko Atlantic. We can see Lagos is learning well from Mumbai so it's all good if the city matches anything foreign, next is Dubai! As for all of you calling people against your idea stupiid, good luck with you because you are obviously so brilliant as to work out things for the rest of us, even simple things we can see in front of our faces like how Eko Atlantic is going to do -natting- for Mainland Lagos except to expand 'big man' playground.

PapaBrowne:

I believe there are ways to encourage private sector to invest in social projects and I also believe that it could be very profitable.
There is something called Social Entrepreneurship. It usually focuses on improving the lives of those at the bottom of the pyramid by creating products and services that are suitable to their condition.

PapaBrowne:

Now the problem is that Nigeria is not ripe for such investments. No investor would put money into social housing when there is no mortgage system in the country. No investor would build hospitals for poor people when there is no reliable health insurance scheme in the country.

babapupa:

You  must have peeped this trough your futuristic crystal ball. The project is no where done but you already have a sad bad bele outlook and idea per what it's gonna look like.

babapupa:

You really need to quit the charade and stop laying your objections on the backs of poor lagosians. From the meaningless and absurd rubbish you've been posting, it's more than obvious you have other silly and petty issues beyond Lagosians and EA.

bk/babe97:

CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT ANY DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON IN BIAFRA OR IS IT JUST KIDNAPPINGS, MURDERS AND ROBBERIES?!

ezeagu:

The "intelligent" people said that is socialism, go back to page 1.

Exactly, if they haven't sorted all this out why are they jumping into a massive project to build luxury attractions, and with that same point how is Eko Atlantic going to eradicate poverty when the poor people themselves won't have hospitals or housing because the government hasn't sorted itself out? Or maybe Eko Atlantic would provide so much money to these poor people that they would be able to visit private hospitals? And what jobs would the majority do, Cleaning? Window wipers? Refuse disposal?

Uhm, in case you did not understand, there is still going to be slum areas in Lagos when this project is finished, or maybe I'm wrong?

It has become apparent that the post above is the only thing you have to contribute to this matter and that your main reason for defending this project is ethnically driven. A shame though.

ezeagu:

"Its a project for the benefit of u and all nigerians that can afford to reside there."
- One of the "intelligent" "articulating" "well read" members of Nairaland.