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Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 4:30pm On Nov 13, 2018
Let us put the issue to an end.
For the record

I am Igbo and I was born and raised in the south east. I just left the south-east a few years ago to study in the west. I got admission at the age of 17, so I have 17 years experience with Igboland and it's people. I can never remember when I had any conversation with my father or any elderly person bordering around the yorubas or any tribe in Nigeria. When we discussed the civil war, I and my dad, his stance was that it was an Igbo man that betrayed the course and ultimately caused our loss. He never told me anything about the yorubas or try to instill a kind of sensitivity in me for anyone.

I was taught everyday that hardwork pays. My father will always tell me, the world is a big place and opportunities abound. One thing I learnt from my parents is that I should know my worth, be respectful when it's needed and never cower for anyone or anything.

When I left the east for tertiary education, I met a very different society. There was this should I say scorn that follows when people learn you're Igbo. They're fast to tell you, your people love money. They'll make fun of your accent, make fun of your place, like "this one is from Aba na", this one na igbotic boy, this one na Onitsha boy". It wasn't nice. It kind of made me timid for a while until I topped my class and they all started to respect me.

I can recall I first came to nairaland around 2013. I was so disappionted at the level of hate between the Igbos and the Yorubas. The kind of degrading things people said to a whole tribe and the responses.. it wasn't nice at all. And I won't lie, it was influencing.. you'll see yourself liking a comment that strikes back to an insult on your tribe and sometimes you'll even be the one to reply.

On the Biafra issue. From my side, I learnt about the war during a brief history class I took in SS1 before fully switching to science in SS2. The teacher was trying to pull sentiments to the Igbo side but majority of my classmates were convinced that the war was ill-timed. Though you can't write off what led to the war, the relentless massacre of Igbos in the North anytime there was any little issue but I left it there in that class.

When I spoke to my father about Biafra during the heat of the Nnamdi Kanu debacle, He told me the Biafra issue was bound to resurface because Nigerians have not kept up their end of the bargain, and things were generally bad with the country. I analysed the whole issue on my own and my main stance is that war will not solve the problem and Nnamdi Kanu was calling for war, hence, my writing this article then.
https://www.nairaland.com/4053580/when-did-allow-hate-take

I have heard people say that Igbos are beclouded with hate. Our parents teach us to hate and the rest of it.. IT IS NOT TRUE!. 80% of childhood friends are Igbos, no one has told me his father told him to hate anybody. Maybe the kids raised outside Igbo land are told so, probably because the ethnic tension is there already but in Igboland, our parents don't have time for hate.

The hatred all over the place now is as a result of the internet. People write provoking things and people respond in a provoking way. The funny thing is that we the youths are championing hate, blowing the embers.. letting politicians and charlatans plant hate.. Our parent's time is almost over, it's bad in this our time but I bet, it'll be worse in the time of our children. The generations coming after us will suffer it and it will be the fault of this generation.

We may have different political ideologies but hatred is universal. If we don't kill hate, hate will kill us.

Don't accuse the Igbos of being hateful, I am Igbo, I was never hateful.. I am not hateful (at least I'm trying not to be) and I am against hate speech. The seed we are planting today, thinking "YES, I have dealt with this Ipob, or this Afonja, or this Aboki" with our little comments on social media will grow to consume us one day, if not us.. our children.

Let us all agree to disagree

Maka Echi - Because of tomorrow
From a Concerned Citizen

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by shakmati(m): 4:35pm On Nov 13, 2018
Wise words. Spoken like an elder.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 4:47pm On Nov 13, 2018
shakmati:
Wise words. Spoken like an elder.

Thank you

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by orisa37: 4:48pm On Nov 13, 2018
Igbos are not trabalistic but are Trouble shooters everywhere.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 4:50pm On Nov 13, 2018
Exactly igbos are not known to be tribalistic.

They are very detribalized....

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 4:56pm On Nov 13, 2018
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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by fergie001: 5:00pm On Nov 13, 2018
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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Modphase: 5:03pm On Nov 13, 2018
As fair as this write up is I must admit it is flawed. If any1 tease Igbos about the love of money. They tease the Ijebus more for greediness n the Abokis for backwardness. An Igbo comedian was busy cracking jokes on n about Yoruba, I laughed this off growing up but I did take offend to it at that time because it was a subtly way Igbos use in insulting Yoruba.

This is exactly what one Nwaipkwe idiot does daily on NL until I started quoting him to make foolish n hopeless joke about his tribe n their actors n actresses. You came to the West n you can clearly see how fairly the Yorubas deal with different ethnicities.

It is crazy some Igbos want us to hate Hausa simply because they are not as educated. No Igbo I repeat can form superstar to any Yoruba. Coming top in class na shii to me, I am doing a lot beta than those that came top of my class in life today.

Igbos should know they are not superior to the most nauseating Aboki, you were just lucky civilization came to you before them. How fast n much you accepted n adopted it is your father’s problem. Nobody in Nigeria will give up their right for you to thumb your chest over. The earlier you learn this the better for all of us.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 5:04pm On Nov 13, 2018
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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Cholls(m): 5:05pm On Nov 13, 2018
MeanChris:
Let us put the issue to an end.
For the record

Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 5:14pm On Nov 13, 2018
Yes very true, the hate is from other Nigerians towards igbos, igbos are just reacting back to the hate and they are crying fowl about it.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by mrvitalis(m): 5:18pm On Nov 13, 2018
Saying igbos are tribalistic is on one the funniest thing I hear every time

Go to any city in Nigeria after the indigenous people igbos are next and when we live.. We take the place like our own... Build empires without minding

How many hausas has duplex in Ibadan... I sure know lots of igbos who have heavy investments in Ibadan, how many Yorubas have duplex in jos or kano, or kaduna or even jalingo... Igbos go here and develop this this places to the way they would if they are at home

I know what my family went true to buy lands in bayelsa, once you are igbo the price is double, some won't even sale for you

Now go to aba, enugu, owerri, how many Yoruba and Hausas own property in this places... Yet they are the first to scream one nigeria


Any igbo has never asked for an advantage... All we need is equal front let merit lead

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Modphase: 5:38pm On Nov 13, 2018
mrvitalis:
Saying igbos are tribalistic is on one the funniest thing I hear every time

Go to any city in Nigeria after the indigenous people igbos are next and when we live.. We take the place like our own... Build empires without minding

How many hausas has duplex in Ibadan... I sure know lots of igbos who have heavy investments in Ibadan, how many Yorubas have duplex in jos or kano, or kaduna or even jalingo... Igbos go here and develop this this places to the way they would if they are at home

I know what my family went true to buy lands in bayelsa, once you are igbo the price is double, some won't even sale for you

Now go to aba, enugu, owerri, how many Yoruba and Hausas own property in this places... Yet they are the first to scream one nigeria


Any igbo has never asked for an advantage... All we need is equal front let merit lead


Here we go again with this Igbo stupidity. I know a Dangote that owns a cemetery factory n he’s also building a refinery that your forefathers never owned in Yoruba land and your unborn generations in this life and in the afterlife will never be allowed to own in Yoruba land. That mush I know, now you can go to hell.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 5:38pm On Nov 13, 2018
mrvitalis:
Saying igbos are tribalistic is on one the funniest thing I hear every time

Go to any city in Nigeria after the indigenous people igbos are next and when we live.. We take the place like our own... Build empires without minding

How many hausas has duplex in Ibadan... I sure know lots of igbos who have heavy investments in Ibadan, how many Yorubas have duplex in jos or kano, or kaduna or even jalingo... Igbos go here and develop this this places to the way they would if they are at home

I know what my family went true to buy lands in bayelsa, once you are igbo the price is double, some won't even sale for you

Now go to aba, enugu, owerri, how many Yoruba and Hausas own property in this places... Yet they are the first to scream one nigeria


Any igbo has never asked for an advantage... All we need is equal front let merit lead

I think the above reasons is why we are been hated, when we igbos start building all these in the east with more of us home other Nigerians will stop fvcking with us.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by mrvitalis(m): 5:42pm On Nov 13, 2018
Modphase:



Here we go again with this Igbo stupidity. I know a Dangote that owns a cemetery factory n he’s also building a refinery that your forefathers never owned in Yoruba land and your unborn generations in this life and in the afterlife will never be allowed to own in Yoruba land. That mush I know, now you can go to hell.

Dangote is a group and share holders determine best source of business and dangote has no choice but to site his cement factory where lime stones are

Obi of onitsha is the chairman of UAC and I know how many investments uac has in Ibadan alone

I'm talking about investments u can site anywhere

Just saying

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by globemoney: 5:43pm On Nov 13, 2018
MeanChris:
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There is no detribalized Nigerian, that is a fraud. Many people just pretend

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by goodnessme1(f): 5:49pm On Nov 13, 2018
I joined nairaland because of the hatred yorubas and hausa shows against igbos here.

Let the hatred continue because we are here to pay them in their own coins.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 6:11pm On Nov 13, 2018
Modphase:
As fair as this write up is I must admit it is flawed. If any1 tease Igbos about the love of money. They tease the Ijebus more for greediness n the Abokis for backwardness. An Igbo comedian was busy cracking jokes on n about Yoruba, I laughed this off growing up but I did take offend to it at that time because it was a subtly way Igbos use in insulting Yoruba.

This is exactly what one Nwaipkwe idiot does daily on NL until I started quoting him to make foolish n hopeless joke about his tribe n their actors n actresses. You came to the West n you can clearly see how fairly the Yorubas deal with different ethnicities.

It is crazy some Igbos want us to hate Hausa simply because they are not as educated. No Igbo I repeat can form superstar to any Yoruba. Coming top in class na shii to me, I am doing a lot beta than those that came top of my class in life today.

Igbos should know they are not superior to the most nauseating Aboki, you were just lucky civilization came to you before them. How fast n much you accepted n adopted it is your father’s problem. Nobody in Nigeria will give up their right for you to thumb your chest over. The earlier you learn this the better for all of us.


Bros, there is a huge difference between making fun and scorn. What i faced was scorn. And I didn't mention I topped my class because I wanted to boast or something, it was that fact that gave my confidence a re-boost, I would have been a very timid person today.
The thing is there is this negative awareness against Igbos. Everybody is weary of you as if you're about to steal something from them.

As I'm talking about Yorubas, the same time for Hausas. My parents never taught me to hate Hausas too. I love Hausas sef because they're very straight forward with their emotions. When they're angry, you know.. they don't backstab (like the rest of us).

My message is for everyone. The hate we are spreading.. When the chickens come home to roost, nobody will be safe.

Lalasticlala, please move this thread to FP so that people will put it in their opinions and maybe write reply threads. Little efforts like this can go far to curb the hatred spreading like wildfire now.
Thanks

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Turantula(m): 6:31pm On Nov 13, 2018
Showing hatred in a faceless forum like nairaland is good for everybody in this country because there is no love amongst us. The sooner we stop pretending the better for everyone. I hate Buhari and everything the he represents. I will probably hate anybody that loves him - na so the thing set.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by goodnessme1(f): 6:46pm On Nov 13, 2018
Turantula:
Showing hatred in a faceless forum like nairaland is good for everybody in this country because there is no love amongst us. The sooner we stop pretending the better for everyone. I hate Buhari and everything the he represents. I will probably hate anybody that loves him - na so the thing set.
you must be an igbo man,because they always stand on what they believe,if they hate you,they will show you they hate you and the reason they hate you,
unlike one tribe that will hate you,but will be the ones accusing you of hating them.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by NORSIYK(m): 7:15pm On Nov 13, 2018
We all know the tribe thats hateful and full of hatred....they are the same people that introduced tribal and bitter politics in Nigeria

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by mightyhazell: 7:25pm On Nov 13, 2018
orisa37:
Igbos are not trabalistic but are Trouble shooters everywhere.
trouble shooters are problem solvers..










and ur right,thsts the igboman for u..

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 7:55pm On Nov 13, 2018
MeanChris:
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undecided undecided undecided


I am still studying the write up/Oped.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 13, 2018
mrvitalis:
Saying igbos are tribalistic is on one the funniest thing I hear every time

Go to any city in Nigeria after the indigenous people igbos are next and when we live.. We take the place like our own... Build empires without minding

How many hausas has duplex in Ibadan... I sure know lots of igbos who have heavy investments in Ibadan, how many Yorubas have duplex in jos or kano, or kaduna or even jalingo... Igbos go here and develop this this places to the way they would if they are at home

I know what my family went true to buy lands in bayelsa, once you are igbo the price is double, some won't even sale for you

Now go to aba, enugu, owerri, how many Yoruba and Hausas own property in this places... Yet they are the first to scream one nigeria


Any igbo has never asked for an advantage... All we need is equal front let merit lead

Comments such as this is why the igbos are hated and will never be allowed to lead.


You have condemned the yoruba to mediocrity in this your comment and it is unfortunate. Neither I nor my generations will allow igbos rule over other Nigerians. We would rather topple an igbo Government than let it thrive. You can continue boasting on the internet while Yorubas and Hausa's handle the power in real life.


#istandwithbuharitill2023

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 8:10pm On Nov 13, 2018
Modphase:
As fair as this write up is I must admit it is flawed. If any1 tease Igbos about the love of money. They tease the Ijebus more for greediness n the Abokis for backwardness. An Igbo comedian was busy cracking jokes on n about Yoruba, I laughed this off growing up but I did take offend to it at that time because it was a subtly way Igbos use in insulting Yoruba.

This is exactly what one Nwaipkwe idiot does daily on NL until I started quoting him to make foolish n hopeless joke about his tribe n their actors n actresses. You came to the West n you can clearly see how fairly the Yorubas deal with different ethnicities.

It is crazy some Igbos want us to hate Hausa simply because they are not as educated. No Igbo I repeat can form superstar to any Yoruba. Coming top in class na shii to me, I am doing a lot beta than those that came top of my class in life today.

Igbos should know they are not superior to the most nauseating Aboki, you were just lucky civilization came to you before them. How fast n much you accepted n adopted it is your father’s problem. Nobody in Nigeria will give up their right for you to thumb your chest over. The earlier you learn this the better for all of us.


I endorse this opinion and adopt it as mine.


The igbos and yorubas just cannot agree politicallyor socially. As a yoruba man, I can't just stomach the empty arrogance and hubris of the average igbo man. We don't see life the same way and I will always disagree with the igbo worldview. I can still endure the Hausa Fulani with his religiously induced murderous rage because he's not boastful or rude to me in yorubaland.

I have dragged back and forth with the igbo for 7 years on NL and realised that they can't change so there's really no need for rapprochement with them. The least we can do is to tolerate each other while respecting each other's values. For now, the only way we can punish the igbos for their hubris is to obstruct their March to Aso rock while conceptualizing further ways to cut down this hateful tribe.

For now, the igbos can continue enjoying the benefits of one Nigeria by trading around the Federation. If and when we get the opportunity to drive them out, we gladly will do so.

#istandwithbuharitill2023

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 8:15pm On Nov 13, 2018
resurgent4oodua:


I can still endure the Hausa Fulani with his religiously induced murderous rage because he's not boastful or rude to me in yorubaland.

For now, the only way we can punish the igbos for their hubris is to obstruct their March to Aso rock while conceptualizing further ways to cut down this hateful tribe.

So you can endure a murderer but not a boastful man?
Interesting

So you want to cut down Igbos??
Interesting

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by 0monnak0da: 8:20pm On Nov 13, 2018
Modphase:
As fair as this write up is I must admit it is flawed. If any1 tease Igbos about the love of money. They tease the Ijebus more for greediness n the Abokis for backwardness. An Igbo comedian was busy cracking jokes on n about Yoruba, I laughed this off growing up but I did take offend to it at that time because it was a subtly way Igbos use in insulting Yoruba.

This is exactly what one Nwaipkwe idiot does daily on NL until I started quoting him to make foolish n hopeless joke about his tribe n their actors n actresses. You came to the West n you can clearly see how fairly the Yorubas deal with different ethnicities.

It is crazy some Igbos want us to hate Hausa simply because they are not as educated. No Igbo I repeat can form superstar to any Yoruba. Coming top in class na shii to me, I am doing a lot beta than those that came top of my class in life today.

Igbos should know they are not superior to the most nauseating Aboki, you were just lucky civilization came to you before them. How fast n much you accepted n adopted it is your father’s problem. Nobody in Nigeria will give up their right for you to thumb your chest over. The earlier you learn this the better for all of us.

Civilization came to Ibos first?
Really?
Very funny.
The Ab.okis as you call them were writing books, riding horses in calvary military exercises long before the Ibos were clothed by white men.
The Ibos need to purge themselves of civil war hatred and the idea that the Yoruba betrayed them.
The behaviour of the Ibos during the reign of GEJ confirmed that they are hoping one day to get revenge.
If not for that and their iconoclastic behaviour the Yoruba do not have time to think about them.
Yoruba ignored them for decades until the internet gave them the facility to revive the war and try to rewrite history.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Nobody: 8:28pm On Nov 13, 2018
MeanChris:


So you can endure a murderer but not a boastful man?
Interesting

So you want to cut down Igbos??
Interesting

I am interested in pushing igbos back into Alaigbo.

If the igbos can't wage a frontal war against us in our greatest city(lagos) then they are the greatest cowards this country has ever seen. I don't see what offence yorubas have committed against igbos to warrant the hatred.

But for now, as far as peace can be maintained, igbos can continue their trading business in the SW unhindered. But igbos will never attain Presidential power in Nigeria as far as Hausas and Yorubas are still in Nigeria Nigeria. We would rather give power to the South South than allow igbos get there.

#istandwithbuharitill2023

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by Almaiga: 8:37pm On Nov 13, 2018
Trash.
When you go to other regions, they welcome you and they allow you to set up your Business without no challenges.
You pay them back by calling them names. Meanwhile, other tribes can not enjoy same previlages in the East.

Go to any online platforms like Facebook, Tweeter and see how Igbo's call other tribes names. The case is same with Nairaland.


Igbo's are tribalist no matter how you want to paint it.

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by 0monnak0da: 8:37pm On Nov 13, 2018
mrvitalis:
Saying igbos are tribalistic is on one the funniest thing I hear every time

Go to any city in Nigeria after the indigenous people igbos are next and when we live.. We take the place like our own... Build empires without minding

How many hausas has duplex in Ibadan... I sure know lots of igbos who have heavy investments in Ibadan, how many Yorubas have duplex in jos or kano, or kaduna or even jalingo... Igbos go here and develop this this places to the way they would if they are at home

I know what my family went true to buy lands in bayelsa, once you are igbo the price is double, some won't even sale for you

Now go to aba, enugu, owerri, how many Yoruba and Hausas own property in this places... Yet they are the first to scream one nigeria


Any igbo has never asked for an advantage... All we need is equal front let merit lead
The only reason they are everywhere is their land is tiny and barren.Stop kidding yourself.
The entire land is smaller than Kwara state and most is is is red,eroded and barren.
How many NON Ibos are in Onitsha or Ariaria markets

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by MeanChris(m): 8:38pm On Nov 13, 2018
resurgent4oodua:


I am interested in pushing igbos back into Alaigbo.

If the igbos can't wage a frontal war against us in our greatest city(lagos) then they are the greatest cowards this country has ever seen. I don't see what offence yorubas have. committed against igbos to warrant the hatred.

But for now, as far as peace can be maintained, igbos can continue their trading business in the SW unhindered. But igbos will never attain Presidential power in Nigeria as far as Hausas and Yorubas are still in Nigeria Nigeria. We would rather give power to the South South than allow igbos get there.

#istandwithbuharitill2023

Hmm odiegwu o

Bros let me advice you..
I have given this my tribe the Igbos a lot of thought and have seen that there is NOTHING anyone can do to Igbos to take them down. I promise you, even if Buhari wins next year, Igbos will NEVER SUFFER.
Let me even give you a small expo..
Everyone I know right now is seriously buying forex because we are even seriously considering that Buhari will win again. I will tell you this, if you like agree or disagree, if Buhari wins.. the economy is going dooown and at the end of the day, who will suffer it, not umu Igbo at allll.
Get productive with your life, stop hating on Igbos because that is just who we are.. productive and prosperous people.
I believe I made no hate speech in my response and I was being kind. Take the advice or leave it, cause if you're waiting for a day that Igbos will suffer or be cut down (according to you), it will never come.

The worst mistake Nigeria will ever do is to grant Igbos their request for Biafra cause bros.... igbos will fly. In 30 years, we'll colonize Nigeria (ask saraduna if you think I'm wrong)

I'm sorry but this is the obvious..
Vote for Buhari let's see who will suffer at the end of the day
Lol

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Re: Igbos Are Not Tribalists by NaijirianKing: 9:05pm On Nov 13, 2018
There is not really hate, but more a collective disappointment

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