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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:24pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:

The question is, how is this Buhari’s problem? When did Buhari become the judiciary? So every business prtnership or government process that started many years ago must wait to be completed before a new law comes into place?

That is exactly PDP's goal - If you can win the election, tie it up in Court. Cause confusion and blame it on Buhari.

Float a rumour he is dead and blame him that people are saying he is dead. And then ask him why he has not died so that people will stop saying he is dead.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by tooth4tooth: 12:25pm On Dec 08, 2018
They think they can push him to sign just as they pushed Gowon to sign confederation without due consultation in Aburi. They forgot that there is an erudite professor of law in Aso Rock, who definitely understand their game even before it was played out.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by seanfer(m): 12:29pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:


In fact, what is surprising is that they are not interested in fixing the Bill. They just want it signed despite obvious discrepancies.

The aim seem to be geared toward confusing the current process. For me I want the bill fixed and signed for subsequent elections.

PDP and Saraki short themselves in the foot immediately they received the Decampees from APC.... They made so many boasts that they will form the next government... Fortunately for the APC the bill was still with the NASS... Let us ask Saraki what happened to the 2 anti-Corruption bills PMB sent to them since 2016?...

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by socialmediaman: 12:30pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:


That is exactly PDP's goal - If you can win the election, tie it up in Court. Cause confusion and blame it on Buhari.

Float a rumour he is dead and blame him that people are saying he is dead. And then ask him why he has not died so that people will stop saying he is dead.

I dont remember mentioning PDP in my question. The NASS is controlled by both parties so they could have stopped it along party lines from going to the presidency. Again, when did the judiciary's problem become Buhari's problem?
Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by CilicMarin: 12:30pm On Dec 08, 2018
lalasticlala Mynd44 let's have wider view.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:30pm On Dec 08, 2018
tooth4tooth:
They think they can push him to sign

Mr. President has refused to be stampede into signing a deficient document into one. Especially one that is filled contradictions of the existing constitutional provisions.

He has rejected it. Saraki can now override the President getting a 2/3 voting majority in the National Assembly to make it Law. If he can't, he should do the right thing and correct the mistakes the President has raised.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:31pm On Dec 08, 2018
CilicMarin:
lalasticlala Mynd44 let's have wider view.

Agreed.
Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:33pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


I dont remember mentioning PDP in my question. The NASS is controlled by both parties so they could have stopped it along party lines from going to the presidency. So again, when did the judiciary's problem become Buhari's problem?

But it is mainly the PDP and the Atiku allies that are pushing for the bill to be signed as it is.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by socialmediaman: 12:35pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:


But it is mainly the PDP and the Atiku allies that are pushing for the bill to be signed as it is.

You mean it wasn't passed by the National Assembly before moving to the presidency?
Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:47pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


You mean it wasn't passed by the National Assembly before moving to the presidency?

The Bill has issues. The President has pointed those out. Until those are fixed, the Bill will not be signed. So the PDP/Atiku should stop making it sound as if without the new bill, 2019 will not hold properly.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by Minjim: 12:48pm On Dec 08, 2018
monkautos:

The Nass has sent the bill 4 times and Buhari has rejected it four times.. So what else do you want Nass to do

Sending it even a 100 times doesnt make it credible.

The question you ask is that each of those times, the corrections the presedency highlightedm, were they tenable or not?

You cant stampede someone into signing a fraudulent document that you delibrately left until rush hour to draft

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by MalcoImX: 12:49pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


I dont remember mentioning PDP in my question. The NASS is controlled by both parties so they could have stopped it along party lines from going to the presidency. Again, when did the judiciary's problem become Buhari's problem?
I think what should be asked is, what are the President's rights to assent or not to assent in this matter?

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by MalcoImX: 12:53pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:

Agreed.
Supported.
Let's have views, especially from our learned friends.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by Roger3D(m): 12:56pm On Dec 08, 2018
id911:


It's funny how the so-called educated people are against what will make our electoral process transparent. I can't believe I'm in the same country with these people. Funny enough, these people would go to church on Sundays or Mosques on Fridays... Spits on you all that are against such a nice bill!
We can deport you to Biafra if you like

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 12:58pm On Dec 08, 2018
lalasticlala Mynd44 - It's not snake. Frontpage. Let us know why PDP are against using the same laws they operated for years.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 1:00pm On Dec 08, 2018
Roger3D:
We can deport you to Biafra if you like

grin grin grin

After the election, majority of Atiku supporters can return to "No Referendum, No Erection".

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by socialmediaman: 1:02pm On Dec 08, 2018
MalcoImX:
I think what should be asked is, what are the President's rights to assent or not to assent in this matter?

Yes i believe its his right and should be used for the right intentions, and its our duty to also to question his intent and sincerity and educate the public about the contents of the bill he refused to accent and the flimsiness of his excuse. A president who has eroded the trust of many could abuse his constitutional powers for selfish interest as far as we are concerned.

We hoped he would improve upon the electoral process he inherited so loopholes observed in the last election can be blocked, but it seems he is bent on keeping the system as was. Shame!
Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by dokunbam(m): 1:03pm On Dec 08, 2018
The change is on course,

Buhari is far better that Atiku that spent 8 years with OBJ(PDP for 16 years) and there is nothing to show for it

Maybe if Atiku is contesting under SDP I would have decided to vote for him.

He chaired the selling of our national assets


Change is a gradual process. We just have to fix infrastructure which is the fundamental ingredient for development.

Infrastructure is the backbone of economy and development.

We cannot continue to scratch on the face and expect development

Several abandoned projects that billions have been spent on are being completed across

Rails that will open up rural areas for easy transportation of food are being completed

Hydro power stations are being competed
Foreign reserve is growing steady
Pensioners are paid
Youth empowerment
Farmers initiative
Etc

Again what is Atiku going to do differently? they are all saying the same thing. "I will fight boko, i will sell nnpc, i will make Nigeria work again. I expected more from him if he is actually serious. And the fact that he was part of PDP years ago. I dont trust him angry

Seriously, I am not convinced about Atiku

I am voting Sowore sef

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2018
dokunbam:
The change is on course,

Buhari is far better that Atiku that spent 8 years with OBJ(PDP for 16 years) and there is nothing to show for it

Maybe if Atiku is contesting under SDP I would have decided to vote for him.

He chaired the selling of our national assets


Change is a gradual process. We just have to fix infrastructure which is the fundamental ingredient for development.

Infrastructure is the backbone of economy and development.

We cannot continue to scratch on the face and expect development

Several abandoned projects that billions have been spent on are being completed across

Rails that will open up rural areas for easy transportation of food are being completed

Hydro power stations are being competed
Foreign reserve is growing steady
Pensioners are paid
Youth empowerment
Farmers initiative
Etc

Again what is Atiku going to do differently? they are all saying the same thing. "I will fight boko, i will sell nnpc, i will make Nigeria work again. I expected more from him if he is actually serious. And the fact that he was part of PDP years ago. I dont trust him angry

Seriously, I am not convinced about Atiku

I am voting Sowore sef

When Atiku was returning from Dubai, PDP were hoping for a Grand Economic Plan only to discover it was about selling NNPC to creditors that wanted to fund his Campaign. They all are very disappointed in his 6 years plan.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by socialmediaman: 1:10pm On Dec 08, 2018
dokunbam:
The change is on course,

Buhari is far better that Atiku that spent 8 years with OBJ(PDP for 16 years) and there is nothing to show for it

Maybe if Atiku is contesting under SDP I would have decided to vote for him.

He chaired the selling of our national assets


Change is a gradual process. We just have to fix infrastructure which is the fundamental ingredient for development.

Infrastructure is the backbone of economy and development.

We cannot continue to scratch on the face and expect development

Several abandoned projects that billions have been spent on are being completed across

Rails that will open up rural areas for easy transportation of food are being completed

Hydro power stations are being competed
Foreign reserve is growing steady
Pensioners are paid
Youth empowerment
Farmers initiative
Etc

Again what is Atiku going to do differently? they are all saying the same thing. "I will fight boko, i will sell nnpc, i will make Nigeria work again. I expected more from him if he is actually serious. And the fact that he was part of PDP years ago. I dont trust him angry

Seriously, I am not convinced about Atiku

I am voting Sowore sef

You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation
Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by MalcoImX: 1:16pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


Yes i believe its his right and should be used for the right intentions, and its our duty to also to question his intent and sincerity and educate the public about the contents of the bill he refused to accent and the flimsiness of his excuse. A president who has eroded the trust of many could abuse his constitutional powers for selfish interest as far as we are concerned.

We hoped he would improve upon the electoral process he inherited so loopholes observed in the last election can be blocked, but it seems he is bent on keeping the system as was. Shame!
Motive is paramount for most of us. That's why the "Why?" keeps cropping up here.

Saraki, you'll agree with me is one of the craftiest fellows that this administration has had to deal with. Anything from him needs to be looked at about 20 times - and with a magnifying glass.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 1:17pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


Yes i believe its his right and should be used for the right intentions, and its our duty to also to question his intent and sincerity and educate the public about the contents of the bill he refused to accent and the flimsiness of his excuse. A president who has eroded the trust of many could abuse his constitutional powers for selfish interest as far as we are concerned.

We hoped he would improve upon the electoral process he inherited so loopholes observed in the last election can be blocked, but it seems he is bent on keeping the system as was. Shame!

- So you believe refusal to sign a half baked bill is NOT Right Intentions.

- Whose trust did Buhari? Trust of people like Saraki, Atiku and co who believed just because they supported Buhari's election, that meant they should be allocated positions and portfolios to plant their thugs to be siphoning public funds. Got back and read Saraki's lamentation on why he decamped.

President Buhari is fight for the good of Nigeria. Yes, more needs to be done. But advocating that Nigeria should be handed over politicians that have made known their looting intentions is a No No.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by Roger3D(m): 1:19pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:


grin grin grin

After the election, majority of Atiku supporters can return to "No Referendum, No Erection".
Yeah after all that's where they started grin

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by dokunbam(m): 1:20pm On Dec 08, 2018
netpro:


When Atiku was returning from Dubai, PDP were hoping for a Grand Economic Plan only to discover it was about selling NNPC to creditors that wanted to fund his Campaign. They all are very disappointed in his 6 years plan.

What!!! Coupled with rolling unrepentant chronic looters. Saraki and co

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 1:21pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation

There is nowhere in the world Government does not have assets. That you want Atiku to sell NNPC to some folks that want to credit his campaign fund does not mean everyone should consider it right.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by Roger3D(m): 1:21pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation
How come we never heard you suggest this crazy idea of yours when oga Jona was in power?

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by dokunbam(m): 1:22pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation

Oh MTN, GLO and co are same with NITEL abi

He should continue selling

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by netpro(m): 1:29pm On Dec 08, 2018
Roger3D:
How come we never heard you suggest this crazy idea of yours when oga Jona was in power?

I tire ooo. Thank God for Yar'Adua who reversed the last ditch effort of OBJ/Atiku in sell off Nigerian Assets just days before leaving office. Now Atiku want to come and complete the damage.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by shukuokukobambi: 1:33pm On Dec 08, 2018
socialmediaman:


You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation

I don't know why you guys like embarrassing yourselves in public.

Selling NITEL didn't revolutionize the telecoms industry, deregulating the industry revolutionized it and Abacha had even started it before dying.

So also, selling NNPC will change nada. Deregulating the entire sector is the magic wand. Atiku ruined the chances of NITEL/MTEL with the crooked manner he sold it and i'm sure NNPC will go the same way if he's given the chance.

If PDP and Atiku are serious, they control the NASS so they should speed up work on the PIB (or is it PIGB these days) and use it to blackmail Buhari

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by madridguy(m): 1:51pm On Dec 08, 2018
Interesting thread.

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by Meritbaba(m): 2:02pm On Dec 08, 2018
I don't care, Buhari should just win next year election, that's all that matters

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Re: Opinion: Why Pdp's Suddenly Distaste For The Electoral Laws They Used? by socialmediaman: 2:05pm On Dec 08, 2018
shukuokukobambi:


I don't know why you guys like embarrassing yourselves in public.

Selling NITEL didn't revolutionize the telecoms industry, deregulating the industry revolutionized it and Abacha had even started it before dying.

So also, selling NNPC will change nada. Deregulating the entire sector is the magic wand. Atiku ruined the chances of NITEL/MTEL with the crooked manner he sold it and i'm sure NNPC will go the same way if he's given the chance.

If PDP and Atiku are serious, they control the NASS so they should speed up work on the PIB (or is it PIGB these days) and use it to blackmail Buhari

Why not make your point straight without first chiding?

Selling NITEL was a wise decision by Nigerian Government, it ended the billions continuously allocated to the sector without improvement. So also should Universities and other government assets[ liabilities sold to private investors who are then given standards to operate and taxed heavily for revenue.

SOLD is another word for PRIVATIZED and people have been calling for that for NNPC for long. Exploring, Refining and Selling crude or refined products should not be Government’s Business, that’s why we have the heavy corruption in that sector. Government should rather be regulating the business. Up to 40 - 50% tax is not too small for government to make from tax from private companies who make much more money from the business when it’s left for them to do, compared to peanuts we see as a result of government running the business

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