socialmediaman:


[b*]You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL[/b] which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation

docadams:


The bolded makes one contemplate the essence of having discussions with you lots of PDP conviction.. NITEL was never a clog to the wheel of privatization granted it was run poorly. After the licencing of private telecoms NITEL was still existing. In fact NITEL was also granted a GSM licence but was doomed to fail from the outset because of undue interference from same politicians who midwifed its emergence.
So, Atiku cannot be separated from NITEL demise.

netpro:
As President Buhari seek reelection into office in 2019, many who had missed the old looting days had hoped that the PDP will bounce back and restart the era of "Share The Money". Even Nigerians who are not too impressed at the rate of fixing the mess the past administration left behind had all been expecting the oppositions to mount a serious issue based campaign to confront the Buhari Administration.

The PDP floated the Young Candidate kite, but abandoned the narrative and settled for an over 70 years. They tried the Atiku being an economic powerhouse returning from Dubia with a Plan - only to discover it is all about selling NNPC and other assets, with outrageous assumptions and figures. Including being a 6 year plan, yet are campaigning against a 3+ efforts. How about kite of Buhari not being Fulani enough, nobody is buying it either. Apart from fully adopting Nnamdi Kanu's treasonable rhetoric, talking points and blueprints, the PDP's latest rallying point is to stampede Mr. President to sign a new Electoral Law barely 2 months to the General Election. The question is why are they exhausting so much energy pushing for it?

President Buhari in 3 occasions has declined to sign the bill, among other issues duly communicated to the National Assembly were; the duplicity and conflicts with existing provisions of the constitution, the insertions that sought to strip INEC's powers to schedule and organize elections. Saraki's efforts to order the elections in a sequence that he can curry favours across party lines when he thought he will be the PDP candidate. Others factors that were raised also included the fact that the 2019 election has also been kick-started based on the current law, so signing the new law will bring conflict in case of dispute - do you judge disagreements with the old or the new law. Trust Nigerians politicians, they will quote the one that favours their case since both played roles in the process.

So, why all of a sudden, the PDP and the Atiku crew are so unhappy with the very same law they have used to run and organize elections for years? Why all the talks that elections will not be considered credible if their new copy is not signed? Why are they pushing for confusion and conflicts on the electoral process? Why all the hate speech, insults and abuse on the person of Mr. President? Why are they bent of spewing hate, provocations, peddling death rumours? When will Atiku and the PDP come out strongly to condemn the shameless acts of their members and supporters wishing Death on the President of Nigeria? Calling him a Clone. Is it how they hope to win the election?

Nigerians must remain vigilant. This is our country. We will do all that it takes to defend it against forces outside and within. The 2019 General Election will come and go - Nigeria will remain and continue on the path of growth. Peace will reign. The will of the People will Prevail.

God bless Nigeria!

NETPRO

netpro:
As President Buhari seek reelection into office in 2019, many who had missed the old looting days had hoped that the PDP will bounce back and restart the era of "Share The Money". Even Nigerians who are not too impressed at the rate of fixing the mess the past administration left behind had all been expecting the oppositions to mount a serious issue based campaign to confront the Buhari Administration.

The PDP floated the Young Candidate kite, but abandoned the narrative and settled for an over 70 years. They tried the Atiku being an economic powerhouse returning from Dubia with a Plan - only to discover it is all about selling NNPC and other assets, with outrageous assumptions and figures. Including being a 6 year plan, yet are campaigning against a 3+ efforts. How about kite of Buhari not being Fulani enough, nobody is buying it either. Apart from fully adopting Nnamdi Kanu's treasonable rhetoric, talking points and blueprints, the PDP's latest rallying point is to stampede Mr. President to sign a new Electoral Law barely 2 months to the General Election. The question is why are they exhausting so much energy pushing for it?

President Buhari in 3 occasions has declined to sign the bill, among other issues duly communicated to the National Assembly were; the duplicity and conflicts with existing provisions of the constitution, the insertions that sought to strip INEC's powers to schedule and organize elections. Saraki's efforts to order the elections in a sequence that he can curry favours across party lines when he thought he will be the PDP candidate. Others factors that were raised also included the fact that the 2019 election has also been kick-started based on the current law, so signing the new law will bring conflict in case of dispute - do you judge disagreements with the old or the new law. Trust Nigerians politicians, they will quote the one that favours their case since both played roles in the process.

So, why all of a sudden, the PDP and the Atiku crew are so unhappy with the very same law they have used to run and organize elections for years? Why all the talks that elections will not be considered credible if their new copy is not signed? Why are they pushing for confusion and conflicts on the electoral process? Why all the hate speech, insults and abuse on the person of Mr. President? Why are they bent of spewing hate, provocations, peddling death rumours? When will Atiku and the PDP come out strongly to condemn the shameless acts of their members and supporters wishing Death on the President of Nigeria? Calling him a Clone. Is it how they hope to win the election?

Nigerians must remain vigilant. This is our country. We will do all that it takes to defend it against forces outside and within. The 2019 General Election will come and go - Nigeria will remain and continue on the path of growth. Peace will reign. The will of the People will Prevail.

God bless Nigeria!

NETPRO

netpro:


The 2019 General Election process was started with the current law. If you sign a new guidelines now, in case of dispute which of the law will you use as a guideline to judge? Candidates will just be referencing whichever that favours their case.

There is nothing wrong if the law starts for subsequent elections.

socialmediaman:


Why not make your point straight without first chiding?

Selling NITEL was a wise decision by Nigerian Government, it ended the billions continuously allocated to the sector without improvement. So also should Universities and other government assets[ liabilities sold to private investors who are then given standards to operate and taxed heavily for revenue.

SOLD is another word for PRIVATIZED and people have been calling for that for NNPC for long. Exploring, Refining and Selling crude or refined products should not be Government’s Business, that’s why we have the heavy corruption in that sector. Government should rather be regulating the business. Up to 40 - 50% tax is not too small for government to make from tax from private companies who make much more money from the business when it’s left for them to do, compared to peanuts we see as a result of government running the business

socialmediaman:


Why not make your point straight without first chiding?

Selling NITEL was a wise decision by Nigerian Government, it ended the billions continuously allocated to the sector without improvement. So also should Universities and other government assets[ liabilities sold to private investors who are then given standards to operate and taxed heavily for revenue.

SOLD is another word for PRIVATIZED and people have been calling for that for NNPC for long. Exploring, Refining and Selling crude or refined products should not be Government’s Business, that’s why we have the heavy corruption in that sector. Government should rather be regulating the business. Up to 40 - 50% tax is not too small for government to make from tax from private companies who make much more money from the business when it’s left for them to do, compared to peanuts we see as a result of government running the business

id911:


It's funny how the so-called educated people are against what will make our electoral process transparent. I can't believe I'm in the same country with these people. Funny enough, these people would go to church on Sundays or Mosques on Fridays... Spits on you all that are against such a nice bill!

Geojio:

Take a look

34webers:
When will nairaland be a platform for enlightened discussions like what is happening on this thread? I salute all the contributors to this thread, I am seriously learning.

surgical:
oga that is a lie from the pit of hell, which APC people are known for my problem with APC is that it is populated with the worst set of Nigerians, retrogressive,self centered people who in 100years can never move this country forward, signing the electoral bill amended into law would have helped to improve our electoral process but since buhari have not come to improve anything in Nigeria except to steal and destroy he will not sign it ,it will be against his character,he has never add anything of value to Nigeria since he became president, his illitrate supporters we're saying it's because pdp stole all the money,does he need any money to sign this law that would have helped the country tremendously in it's leadership recruitment, that could have count for an achievement but

netpro:


It is amazing. If it was about Snake or a gossip about one celebrity, it would have hit Frontpage without even a comment.

Me, I am interested in having all the parties tell us why the very same Electoral Laws used in previous elections has suddenly being castigated by the very same people that used it for years and saw nothing wrong in it.

netpro:


When you are done with your insults and name-calling, hear this: Changing the rules (Law) that guides the 2019 election about 2 months to the election will create disruptive tendency, confusion and conflict. This will disrupt our nascent Democracy.

Secondly, the current Bill as present to Mr. President by the National Assembly had new provisions that conflicted with provisions and guidelines existing on other sections of the Constitution (which were not part of what NASS amended).

What the President has done is decline signing, highlight the areas of contradictions and send it back for the lawmakers to review and sought out.

So what is it with the name calling and Why is PDP pushing for the Bill to be signed without correcting the errors?

socialmediaman:


NITEL was sold because there was no use running it by government. Government does not need to be running NNPC, we have FMPR, NIPMS and DPR to regulate the oil industry

I just make my point, I don’t need to chide or insult anyone while doing it. If you’re up for intellectual debate, bring it on

surgical:
These people are not educated at all they are all touts if you see them in real life but you don't need to see them you can recognize them on the platform by their contributions, the fact they type in English is not enough for you to assume they are educated, and educated person will know his rights and cannot be a slave to anybody,his support will not be because of religion or ethnic affinity but for the common good.

docadams:


Using NITEL as an example, one expects you to have all the facts at your fingertips. NITEL privatization was anathema to the ethics of privatization. It needed to be privatized but not in the manner it was done.

surgical:
I am not insultive , the truth is that buhari got to the sit because of the continuous reform to the electoral act,why can't buhari add his own contributions to deepen our democracy instead of trying to take advantage of the flaws,if he had been interested he would have been the one to send the executive bill but he is the one frustrating it by delaying till the last day of the 30days before sending it back, now multiply 4times that he has rejected the bill by 3odays that he keeps the bill, only him wasted 120 days which is a lot and that is deliberate any reasonable person can easily see that, he was deliberately looking for fault, the electoral act can not be perfect we will continue to work on it till it has semblance of perfection, the conclusion is buhari lacks the integrity that is attributed to him,he will take advantage of the system like everyone he is not different from any average Nigerian,I don't have a problem with him been returned as the president since everyone will have his fair share of the consequences of his incompetence

shukuokukobambi:


Apologies for that bro


Selling NITEL would have been a wise decision if only the agent of sale had a shred of honesty in him. The sector was deregulated so selling NITEL or not wasn't going to stop MTN and ECONET from competing with themselves to offer good telephony services to Nigerians. Privation makes a lot of sense if only the midwife would not be a kleptomaniac like the orphan of Adamawa.

One of the things i won't forgive GEJ for is the PIB. With him as the President and another Christian minority from the Middle belt as the Senate President, he had the singular chance to sanitize the oil industry and make it rewarding even for his deprived people of the Niger Delta but he wasted the chance. Atiku is the man who practically owns ONNE port and he didn't get it through competitive bidding. He's a part of the cabal that milks and collects rent on Nigeria and he's been a part since being a lackey to Shehu Yaradua.

I agree NNPC should be broken up, privatized and private investors brought in to take some part but surely not by Atiku.

Agritech:
We need to salute the guys working behind the scene to review this particular Bill for PMB. They are thorough and they understand the game plan of Mesujamba and his cohorts very well.

Before u start insulting the President, you should know that African Union Protocol strongly disapproves any amendment or introduction of new electoral laws three months to election. PMB is wise to hv rejected d bill.

We all know Nass is playing a game. The bill was initially deliberately delayed, Card reader deliberately omitted. They wanted it signed by d President to perfect their rigging plan. Baba after serious screening discovered this and returned back to them. What

As it is, we will use the Electoral law used to conduct 2015 election to conduct 2019 election. This, we will still use card reader in 2019. So, nothing has changed as long as we abide by the rules.

If the electoral bill prepared and used to conduct last election by PDP is good ( as they always say), why is it not good no more?

socialmediaman:


You mean perpetual national assets liabilities like NITEL which revolutionized the telecom industry? Even Universities should be sold, FG should have no business running Universities and other businesses. They should focus on taxes, policies and wealth circulation

socialmediaman:


I was one of those who campaigned for Buhari and voted out GEJ for many of those reasons too so i do not have a problem with the bolded. I have since moved on after seeing Buhari's abysmal performance. By the way, if you cannot forgive GEJ, how come you mention nothing about Buhari doing nothing despite being Minister of petroleum, still supervising heavy corruption in the sector since 2015?

So i get your point, you do not trust Atiku to privatize NNPC, not that his point that it should be privatized doesn't make sense?

socialmediaman:


I was one of those who campaigned for Buhari and voted out GEJ for many of those reasons too so i do not have a problem with the bolded. I have since moved on after seeing Buhari's abysmal performance. By the way, if you cannot forgive GEJ, how come you mention nothing about Buhari doing nothing despite being Minister of petroleum, still supervising heavy corruption in the sector since 2015?

So i get your point, you do not trust Atiku to privatize NNPC, not that his point that it should be privatized doesn't make sense?

netpro:


I really don't get where the disagreement is here. Frankly you can't be angry with Mr. President seeking that due diligence be done. President Buhari is a man that believe on the right thing be done, especially when National Interest in on the line. He will rather take insults and abuses in order to protect National Interest.

socialmediaman:


Why not make your point straight without first chiding?

Selling NITEL was a wise decision by Nigerian Government, it ended the billions continuously allocated to the sector without improvement. So also should Universities and other government assets[ liabilities sold to private investors who are then given standards to operate and taxed heavily for revenue.

SOLD is another word for PRIVATIZED and people have been calling for that for NNPC for long. Exploring, Refining and Selling crude or refined products should not be Government’s Business, that’s why we have the heavy corruption in that sector. Government should rather be regulating the business. Up to 40 - 50% tax is not too small for government to make from tax from private companies who make much more money from the business when it’s left for them to do, compared to peanuts we see as a result of government running the business

socialmediaman:


NITEL was sold because there was no use running it by government. Government does not need to be running NNPC, we have FMPR, NIPMS and DPR to regulate the oil industry

I just make my point, I don’t need to chide or insult anyone while doing it. If you’re up for intellectual debate, bring it on

socialmediaman:


So the issue here is that you do not Trust Atiku Abubakar to sell it, no that it shouldn’t have been sold, Yes?

surgical:
oga that is a lie from the pit of hell, which APC people are known for my problem with APC is that it is populated with the worst set of Nigerians, retrogressive,self centered people who in 100years can never move this country forward, signing the electoral bill amended into law would have helped to improve our electoral process but since buhari have not come to improve anything in Nigeria except to steal and destroy he will not sign it ,it will be against his character,he has never add anything of value to Nigeria since he became president, his illitrate supporters we're saying it's because pdp stole all the money,does he need any money to sign this law that would have helped the country tremendously in it's leadership recruitment, that could have count for an achievement but

rhidollah:

To who please, it was simply deregulate.

docadams:


The outcome of a process matters. NITEL privatization was a national embarrassment as did many others. It was like the TAM of the refineries. Money was continually pumped into it in name of making it operational before privatization. At the end it was sold for far far less. Even the privatization process was enmeshed in protracted controversies. In addition, so much liabilities was incurred. Only now some of these liabilities are being sorted out. So with such a poor outcome one must question the intentions of those who midwifed the process

rhidollah:

ND who will bear the brunt of those heavy taxes, you and me right.
ND do you Know d landing cost of pms now, it's 197, which means private companies will be selling for 230 upward. let's be objective in our analysis please, for the sake of those that doesn't really understand privatisation.

netpro:


Atiku's grand plan of selling 90% NNPC and other National Assets is not a sound Economic Policy especially if that is the very first thing to do.