If I didn't accept literalism of God having literal hand, why should I treat "created Adam from clay with my hands" literally?

usermane:


See? Qur'an likens our creation to eventual recreation from our graves, from dust on the last day. It would be strange to assume each human being will begin to re-evolve from stage to stage to emerge in their ultimate human form before meeting the Lord.

najib632:
Look at the diagram of zygote or and infant child and yell me where you find the testicles, the Quran is book that is book that will serve for therest of humanity so it's not everything that the early Muslims will be able to translate and Muhammad S.A.W will translate only as much as Allah wills.

najib632: How come you don't appreciate the astronomical achievements of the Muslims that they discovered through the Quran? You don't appreciate the optics and algebra? You don't appreciate the use of honey as medicine? These were discovered from the knowledge of the Qur'an and the hadith(that you reject

Do you understand the Arabic yourself? I am sure you don't.

najib632: This shows your high level of ignorance... in the book of Isiah chapter 29 verse 12: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, say ing, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

This is evidence from the Torah that came before him that he was an illiterate, You just presented a verse that you don't know it's purpose of revelation and you, think you can use the Qur'an against Islam?

najib632: You think you know more than people who spend life times studying the Qur'an? If this is not hypocrisy I don't know what else to call it, you don't even know the basics of Islam.

For you not to knowing this verse shows your ignorance and rash conclusions and the hypocrisy of your love towards the Qur'an, don't be like tintinz who got misguided due to his arrogance with ignorance, seek knowledge and don't jump into conclusion a single Google search would have saved me the trouble of typing all of this.

Seek knowledge from the Orthodox creed and Schools of taught, evolution is a theory that tries to make the One Who revealed the Qur'an to look imperfect. So please sir make a bit of research before answering topics like this. I am sorry if sound too harsh, but I am just being frank.

usermane:
Chapter 7: Let's Be Impartial Muslims

In response to tinting, I'll admit that Qur'an verses on Adam's creation seem contrary to scientific knowledge and I currently have no sure defense for the Qur'an here. Regardless of what Muslims think of this response, it is OK.

This may be doubting the Qur'an, but not tantamount to apostasy. Besides, scientific knowledge is dynamic, perhaps proof for the Qur'an will surface in the future. But for all we know now, these verses are not defensible.

tintingz:
Then you should be agnostic, religion make claims everything in their scriptures is 100% true and fact.

Be honest with your position.

There are already scientific research that makes the Quran claims fairytales.

usermane:


Did you turn atheist over night? Do realize scientific facts of yesterday are myths of today? And myths of yesterday are facts of today?

This is a complicated subject and in the meantime I'll give the Qur'an benefit of doubt. I'm definitely shifting my approach to Qur'an and venturing into in-depth analysis of verses relevant to science and history.

tintingz:
I don't seem to get the bolded part.

usermane:


What I mean is that scientific knowledge is not always perfect and consistent yardstick for scrutinizing religious text like Qur'an.

Albaqr: ORIGIN OF LIFE

Why is it alien to some skeptics that Adam was created from "clay"? We are not giving the idea of molding clay into human form blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway, watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyhZcEY5PCQ&t=245s

Sahih International: And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud.

Pickthall: Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered,

Yusuf Ali: We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;

Shakir: And certainly We created man of clay that gives forth sound, of black mud fashioned in shape.

Muhammad Sarwar: We have created the human being out of pure mud-moulded clay

Mohsin Khan: And indeed, We created man from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud.

Edip-Layth: We have created the human being from hardened clay of aged mud.

Muhammad Asad: AND, INDEED, We have created man out of sounding clay, out of dark-slime transmuted

Tafsir Ibn Abbas
(Verily We created man) Adam (of potter's clay) of dry clay (of black mud altered) clay that stinks; it is also said that this means: shaped clay.

Asrar Kashf Al Asrar
Kaʿb said to a man among those sitting with him, “Ask Ibn ʿUmar from what God created Adam.” Ibn ʿUmar said, “He created Adam from five things: clay, water, fire, light, and wind.”

At Ibn ʿUmar's response, Kaʿb said, “Sit with him, for surely he is a man of knowledge.” What is understood from this report is that the Exalted Lord created Adam from five things: clay, water, fire, light, and wind.

Al Jalalayn
And verily We created man, Adam, out of a dry [clinking] clay, that gives off a clinking sound when it is tapped, of malleable mud, black [mud].

Kashani Kashani
And verily We created man out of a dry [clinking] clay of malleable mud, that is, out of the four admixed elements, since ḥamaÌ is mud that changes and masnūn is that [mud] on which water is poured until it is rid of hard or rough particles that are intemperate and are resistant to the acceptance of the form that is to be conceptualised from it; al-ṣalṣāl is that [clay] which is penetrated by air and becomes dry by heating.

Ibn Kathir
(of altered mud) means the dried clay that comes from mud, which is soil. "Altered'' here means smooth.

Abu ala Maududi
"Masnun" has a double meaning: (a) "rotten clay which has become greasy" (b) clay which has been molded into a shape." It is clear from the wording of the text that at first the image of man was made of clay from rotten earth and when it dried up, soul was breathed into it.

Thus the Qur'an positively refutes the Darwinian theory of Evolution that man came into existence after passing through continuous genetic adaptations. It will, therefore, be a futile attempt, as some modernized commentators have done, to prove that theory from the Qur'an.

مَسْنُونٌ [Bitten with the teeth: whence, app., what next follows]. You say أَرْضٌ مَسْنُونَــةٌ and ↓ سَنِينٌ meaning Land of which the herbage has been eaten.

(L, K.) B2: Sharpened, or whetted, or made sharp-pointed, and polished; as also ↓ سَنِينٌ; (M, L, K applied to a knife (K) or thing [of any kind].

(M, L.) Made smooth. (S, L.) Formed, fashioned, or shaped. (S, M, L.) Made long. (L.) You say وَجْهٌ مَسْنُونٌ (assumed tropical A face in which is length, without breadth; (مَخْروُطٌ smooth and even; or smooth and long; or long, and not high in the ball; or soft, tender, thin, and even; as though the flesh were ground (سُنَّ [like as a thing is ground in sharpening and polishing]) from it. (M, L.) And رَجُلٌ مَسْنُونُ الوَجْهِ (assumed tropical A man beautiful and smooth in the face: (Lh, M, L, K or a man in whose nose and face is length: (S, L, K or beautiful and long in the face.