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Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by SlayerForever: 9:18am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Nigerians have a generally low IQ. They're too dumb to realize it is their leaders ruining the country. They're so dumb they even defend the rotten leaders. However, ideally, order proceeds from the top and moves downwards. Poor Leaders = Rotten Populace. You lots think white people are saints. Remove law and order from the almighty United States and see what the society will degenerate into. 3 Likes |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by sneedpahpaz(m): 9:18am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Illiterate... Read what the OP wrote,it won't kill you. He made some very sensible & valid points. Am sure you're part of those selling their votes for pittance. Only when the mindsets of the citizens changes b4 Nigeria becomes great again. What we don't realise is that the power really is in our hands. 3 Likes |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by sneedpahpaz(m): 9:20am On Feb 03, 2019 |
aishapmbtoto:Illiterate... Read what the OP wrote,it won't kill you. He made some very sensible & valid points. Am sure you're part of those selling their votes for pittance. Only when the mindsets of the citizens changes b4 Nigeria becomes great again. What we don't realise is that the power really is in our hands. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Guide777(m): 9:26am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Who is the iberiberistic fool who think he knows more than Achebe? |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by ceejee(m): 9:39am On Feb 03, 2019 |
stanliwise: let's agree then that Leadership is the problem then we can talk about how to change the leadership. logically ur quote above didn't exonerate the leaders but only suggested that the masses can change the bad leadership which I concur |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by rusher14: 9:44am On Feb 03, 2019 |
O to ge. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by tysontim(m): 9:47am On Feb 03, 2019 |
There is no way you'll be patrotic if you're cheated by your country, if everything is lopsided, if you've given up hope for the contry. The truth is no one in Nigeria loves Nigeria we are all pretending. If American visa where to be given free every one will rush to there. If the men in uniform had better jobs no one will like to be part of the armed forces of this contry talk more of dieing for this country. (Despite the pride in wearing uniforms for forces) Have you ever seen a child set out be study everything about the military so as to become a soldier or police ? No people join bcus of lack of other alternatives. Nigeria need to get it right otherwise it will break up, violently 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by kokomilala(m): 9:47am On Feb 03, 2019 |
It's still leadership. No matter how biased you are.From the time of Moses, the masses are being led by leaders who are sacrificial and people-oriented, and who always move ahead of their peers. Alexander The Great,Atatuk,Indira Ghandi,Roosevelt, JFK,Queen Elizabeth 1 ,Awolowo etc, all and many more distinguished themselves as exceptional leaders and show why people have to be led. Mass acts can't change society.There has to be an arrow head. It is this qualitatively efficient leadership that Nigeria lacks.This fault is not that of the masses but of those who,fortuitously, seized power and made a failure of it. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by musicwriter(m): 9:49am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Shaping Nigeria is in the hands of the people, not politicians. Getting great leaders run the affairs of the nation is in the hands of the people and it can only be possible when everyone puts Nigeria first, when everyone sees Nigeria as their own country, when everyone understands that when troubles come, the money in their hands cannot save them, when everyone understands that when war happens, nobody goes to the market to trade, when people understand that when a neighbour is killed, they could be next to be killed. Only when priority placed on education and education improves, only when there's quality education would the masses understand that. Nigeria is like a company owned by all Nigerians and the political office holders are the managers. If the owners of the company employ managers who cannot run the company well and things go wrong, the employers should be blamed, not the managers. The time of sentiments and risky loyalties should be over. If anyone has the interest of Nigeria at heart, that person should sit down, examine all the candidates for the political offices, check their pedigree and history and then cast their votes based on their convictions. Even if someone’s vote was the only vote that a candidate got, there is no issue with that—so long as it was cast based on personal convictions, not sentiments or some personal aggrandizements. That is patriotism. Only when priority placed on education and education improves, only when there's quality education would the masses understand that. The masses and the leaders are the same. A nation get the type of leadership it deserves. A nation deserve the type of leadership it gets. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by sweetrace(f): 9:49am On Feb 03, 2019 |
bayelsaowei: This is totally inaccurate it is this type of thinking that affects Nigeria. Did Buhari not contest so many times? He kept on loosing until Tinubu’s party merged with his. They made Buhari look more appealing and he won. Stop the lame blame game. 2 Likes |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by AfroBlue(m): 9:50am On Feb 03, 2019 |
someone posted this s.r. article on nl a few yrs ago. it supports the thread theme. The End Of An Assignment In Nigeria By Tim Newman http://saharareporters.com/2013/08/22/end-assignment-nigeria-by%C2%A0tim-newman ![]() |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Mufasa100: 9:57am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Lol I laugh you. You say Achebe is wrong? He Was there when all of this began and I'm Guessing you were a baby then or not even born sef, please say what you know, don't come and give us headache because you don't like Achebe or because Nigeria is frustrating you. You say the problem is the masses, you are You not one of the masses? Do something na, if you can. You forget Nigeria is a lawless Country, dem go flog you throw you inside guard room if you do pass yourself. Just look at what they did to Fela who was speaking up. The masses are not perfect no doubt but the problem is and still remains with the leaders, they lead, we follow. Not the other way around. Do your research on any prosperous country and you will find out it all started with a good leader willing to make his country better. But here the reverse is the case. Our leaders are at fault because they have the power to make this country better but instead use that power for their own selfish desires. Its not rocket science. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Deicide: 10:00am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Use the right tools to solve the right problem....you can't use a spoon to dig a 20 fit hole! |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by mujahid777(m): 10:11am On Feb 03, 2019 |
It depends on what point of view you choose to see it.Really,I think the more appropriate opinion is that of the leaders being the problems.Where leadership to be just the reflection of the masses,then scarcely would there have been humankinds progresses.In fact,isn't this the main purpose of leading? to serve as stewardship; shepherding over a jumbled flock,progressively grooming it for greater utility,rather than merely being part of the same disheveled mass ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by stanliwise(m): 10:11am On Feb 03, 2019 |
krushdripper:As much as you are trying to express dislike for the action of Nigerian masses, your dislikes have now degenerated to hatred. like it or not, if the masses must work you need those people that you called mad and psychotic to make it happen. Your hatred isn't the way out. Why not Orient this smae people. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by patrickmuf(m): 10:29am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Every word is spot on. Take a cue from the on going rallies, Buhari and Atiku are only able to muster such crowds cos in most cases than not, they dole out cash but the other smart guys like Moghalu, Sowore, Durotoye etc are not financially buoyant or rather it is against their beliefs to bribe their way to power thus are not given any chance by Nigerians. Here, we sell out future for a pot of porridge. Imagine folks rooting for Buhari after has shown that he isn't capable to lead the country or others who are hell bent on foisting Atiku on us even when Atiku for 8 years was VP and didn't do such much compared to the resources available to him, same Atiku is surrounded by Saraki, Dino, Ben Bruce, Tambuwal etc, the very men who have been at the centre of misgovernance as we have it here. For me, Sowore should get the nod or Moghalu but no, Nigerians are still in love with her oppressors. 2 Likes |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Nobody: 11:14am On Feb 03, 2019 |
The Nigerian society produces the kind of leaders it has. Worshiping a human who steals and lies says a lot about the masses. |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by diggz: 11:24am On Feb 03, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Not making any excuse for atiku but we can all agree that most vps are toothless and can't do things on their own without the ok of the president. I no send that sowore o! No be aluta or motivation speeeches matter be this...or Sahara. Same way i couldnt stand fela durotoye. The only person I will confidently vote for is moghalu and that is because of the solutions I have heard him proffer for our problems. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by patrickmuf(m): 11:27am On Feb 03, 2019 |
diggz:You might need to listen to Sowore more. Moghalu is very cerebral, he is also a very good choice. The odd one is Atiku, he represents the status quo in a new dress and that's why I'm not sold on his candidature. I hope we get it right across board. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by diggz: 11:32am On Feb 03, 2019 |
patrickmuf: I have listened to sowore and like fela durotoye their numbers don't or never adds up. I am not into the business of making silly promises that one cannot keep. Same way your f00lish president said he was going to make N1 equal 1 dollar while being import dependent is the same way sowore is going about throwing figures Upandan. Please correct me if I am not mistaken ...is sowore not the one who said he will increase minimum wage to 100k plus if he becomes the president of this country? 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by sowilli: 11:36am On Feb 03, 2019 |
Bad Nigerians are more than the Good Nigerians and majority always carry the vote. This is what is further reflected in Leadership. 2 Likes |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Omololupromise: 12:04pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
Which of the Achebe again, why can't we Nigerians focus on what is currently happening now. |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Nobody: 12:21pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
OpinionCentreNG: Mr. Onyebuchi, Nigerian politicians are quite crafty. Divide the people between religious and tribal lines, keep them poor and ignorant then during elections, stir this divide and offer them peanuts for their conscience. Keeping the people poor and ignorant and dividing them across religious and tribal lines always works... it is not the people's fault..... 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by VULCAN(m): 12:24pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
If you take time to read what you wrote slowly you would realise that you have actually rejected the write up in favour of Achebe. Who develops and enforces KPI's? Is it not Management? Or in other words, Leadership. And the employees(masses) automatically adjust to it. So you now see why Achebe was right. Good leadership know what to do to create productive mindsets in the people while bad leaders will always exploit the weaknesses of the people and rip them off. A father without good leadership quality will throw his home in disarray and whatever the wife and children end up doing to keep body and soul together is due to his irresponsibility. That is the story of Nigeria SHABZ: 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by patrickmuf(m): 12:30pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
diggz:He is and as ridiculous as it sounds, it is achievable. Maybe not 100k but something around 70k... I refuse to accept that the country cannot do much more that the proposed 30k. If Nigeria is broke, why then is Atiku, Buhari and all the other aspirants for different political positions doing their utmost to win? You and I know it is not because of passion to serve alone, it's because they want a share of our resources. All the states saying they can't pay 30k are states held back by lazy leaders. 1 Like |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by Apination(m): 12:41pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
Did the leaders fall from heaven? Everyone wants to talk smart ![]() |
Re: I Disagree With Chinua Achebe, The Trouble With Nigeria Is Not Politicians, But by diggz: 12:42pm On Feb 03, 2019 |
patrickmuf: I am not saying it is not achievable because it is. However, I can't see a clear road map on how he is going to achieve such from what he said....Same way I didn't see how your president was going to make 1naira equal 1dollar....and that is majorly one of the issues I have with him. Good and great ideas but how to achieve and implement these ideas is the wahala. It is simply not enough to make beautiful promises....you have to be able to create and show a road map that adds up. @states Especially south south states...especially delta state and n.a. ogun go kee all of them Las Las... |
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